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July 19, 2024, 10:01:04 PM
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I agree with you. I think if we make bets based on other people's predictions and we don't know about the sport I think it's a silly decision. I often say that gambling cannot give you more money. There are only choices of winning and losing. It would be ridiculous if you bet on someone else's picks and lose. You don't enjoy anything from your bets. Yes I prefer to make my own predictions and bet on sports I enjoy. These are personal views and I respect everyone's different opinions.

If it is actually like crossing an avenue blindfolded, where we know absolutely nothing, where we leave our fate in the hands of another, I would not feel well, I would be anxious all the time, I think that I am not good at that, and it is as you say, there is no enjoyment, there is no sense in betting like that, for me it is something that has no kind of fun, so despite those things I know that there are people who do not give importance to that, they follow the bets and advice of others and they can live well that way, if they win well, and if they lose well they do not give it so much importance, it is like the way of seeing things, that is why each one of us is different.

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July 19, 2024, 11:35:02 PM
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Why should I believe ? 9 out of 10 picks from so called "experts" are wrong because they are being paid from bookies to actually give false predictions. It's way better to simply forget that sports experts exist and just focus on your own predictions based on your own calculations and so on.

Even AI predictions at Euro went so wrong like 7 out 10 calls were wrong so no matter who makes the predictions , they always tend to be wrong.  Grin Grin Grin
Bookies pay experts to cause chaos in news sources because prediction is a matter of what the data will be like and which way it is leaning, as long as one side is reputable enough, the data will be scrambled, once the information is so misleading, the bettors will not have the same opinion, and the advantage suddenly belongs to the house when there is more chaos, the money flow is more uneven and the chance of taking it all is higher by betting odds and handicap. Expert is just an illusory title that many people create, a shell used only to lure prey
Exactly, the word expert in gambling is a scam word because they know that is the only way they can use to get money out from people's pockets who want to make profit from gambling without knowing what gambling is all about. I see those predictions as luck just the way a gambler will make his own predictions and be lucky by winning huge. If I know a gambler that is not claiming to be an expert and we puts heads together to predict a match, if he has more ideas than me on that match, I can bet on what he concludes after some discussions on the match but if you claim to be an expert, I turn deaf ears on you.

Exactly, I also have the same thoughts as you, where the experts' predictions are actually nothing more than fraud hiding behind something they offer. As you said, those who are called experts take advantage of people who believe in the predictions they offer, meaning that the more people who believe, the more money they will make.

For me it is strange, why people can believe in experts who offer predictions, because after all gambling is an activity that can never be predicted about what the results will be, meaning of course it is better for us to gamble using our own methods, because we only need money to bet and not have to spend additional money to pay for predictions from these experts.
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July 20, 2024, 03:55:07 PM
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Why should I believe ? 9 out of 10 picks from so called "experts" are wrong because they are being paid from bookies to actually give false predictions.
Paying an acclaimed Sport betting expert you see online for game predictions is the worst mistake any gambler can ever do in his/her entire life, because must cases, it not that these people are usually paid by Casinos to spread false predictions, but majority of those people do it for personal gain, of which the highest place you could find these set of people are always on Telegram channel, where they go about posting an already edited winning tickets, in other to attract potential victims who may likely fall for their trap. Whereas those who are affiliate to Sport Betting site will always tend to convince its audience to stake high, so that when they lose, they can in return end a commission. I was once a victim, and I learnt the hard way, and since then I have known that Sport prediction buying is a scam.

 
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July 20, 2024, 04:05:46 PM
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Why should I believe ? 9 out of 10 picks from so called "experts" are wrong because they are being paid from bookies to actually give false predictions.
Paying an acclaimed Sport betting expert you see online for game predictions is the worst mistake any gambler can ever do in his/her entire life, because must cases, it not that these people are usually paid by Casinos to spread false predictions, but majority of those people do it for personal gain, of which the highest place you could find these set of people are always on Telegram channel, where they go about posting an already edited winning tickets, in other to attract potential victims who may likely fall for their trap. Whereas those who are affiliate to Sport Betting site will always tend to convince its audience to stake high, so that when they lose, they can in return end a commission. I was once a victim, and I learnt the hard way, and since then I have known that Sport prediction buying is a scam.
Even in their sites, they have fans who try to impersonate fake winning claiming it was the online gambling sites that predicted the games for them.

It is all lies just as you said, they are edited game slips just to attract the audience with the evidence of those forks backing them up with fake testimonies of their 100% sure prediction as experts.











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July 20, 2024, 04:29:48 PM
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It is another tool within the arsenal of gamblers and bettors, but most of people who are new with AI as a tool to predict outcomes do not see it that way, to be honest. When fed with historical data there is actually not much information which the AI could give when compared to the same data and conclusions a well organized and built spreadsheet could also provide to anyone of us. The difference comes with the format and the way the data is given to the final user, while the spreadsheet gives a number in a cell, the AI will use artificial voice or text generation to explain the result to us.

Fortunately, it won't be a long time before people start to realize all of it and stop believing in AI 100%.

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July 20, 2024, 04:50:49 PM
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Even in their sites, they have fans who try to impersonate fake winning claiming it was the online gambling sites that predicted the games for them.

It is all lies just as you said, they are edited game slips just to attract the audience with the evidence of those forks backing them up with fake testimonies of their 100% sure prediction as experts.
as already said, they could be people who are paid or employed by the casino to promote or get more new users. I saw this kind of thing on Telegram channels where they usually broadcast live some matches and also offer VIP groups for predictions. They even offer to help create an account and teach beginners to bet on the sites they recommend.
Maybe at the beginning, the prediction given can be accurate, but after that, it will only provide a very small prediction accuracy.

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July 20, 2024, 05:07:37 PM
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Yes, maybe people who are thirsty for victory will definitely do whatever they can to have a big chance of winning, until there are some people who hire analysts to help them predict their bets.

Yes, it is better for us to use our own result analysis, because even if it is wrong we can correct our mistakes and it will make us much more in betting on other occasions, I think this is much better than using other people's result predictions it will be disappointing if it is wrong and it will make it not so pleasant if we get a win, I am always very happy if the bet that is the result of my previous analysis turns out to be correct, it is much happier as a gambler. IMO

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July 20, 2024, 06:15:04 PM
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Why should I believe ? 9 out of 10 picks from so called "experts" are wrong because they are being paid from bookies to actually give false predictions. It's way better to simply forget that sports experts exist and just focus on your own predictions based on your own calculations and so on.

Even AI predictions at Euro went so wrong like 7 out 10 calls were wrong so no matter who makes the predictions , they always tend to be wrong.  Grin Grin Grin

Bookmakers/brokers never pay experts for “wrong” predictions. They simply pay them for information noise and the illusion that there is a way to beat the exchange/bookmaker. Mathematics will do the rest - regardless of whether you place the bet correctly or not, the bookmaker will always beat the crowd and receive their margin.
I am sure that the developers of exchange trading strategies (all sorts of waves, figures of technical analysis and other nonsense) receive money from the industry (exchanges/brokers) as they lure new simpletons into the market with their “strategies”.

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July 20, 2024, 06:43:48 PM
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Why should I believe ? 9 out of 10 picks from so called "experts" are wrong because they are being paid from bookies to actually give false predictions.
Paying an acclaimed Sport betting expert you see online for game predictions is the worst mistake any gambler can ever do in his/her entire life, because must cases, it not that these people are usually paid by Casinos to spread false predictions, but majority of those people do it for personal gain, of which the highest place you could find these set of people are always on Telegram channel, where they go about posting an already edited winning tickets, in other to attract potential victims who may likely fall for their trap. Whereas those who are affiliate to Sport Betting site will always tend to convince its audience to stake high, so that when they lose, they can in return end a commission. I was once a victim, and I learnt the hard way, and since then I have known that Sport prediction buying is a scam.
Even in their sites, they have fans who try to impersonate fake winning claiming it was the online gambling sites that predicted the games for them.

It is all lies just as you said, they are edited game slips just to attract the audience with the evidence of those forks backing them up with fake testimonies of their 100% sure prediction as experts.
That's true, and one trick I have noticed about these acclaimed Sports betting experts is that most times what they do is buy lots of social media accounts where they use to comment testimonies so as to attract people who happens to come across such post, thinking he is likely to be true, not knowing it's all mere marketing strategy to lure in potential victims. Which is why I always tell people to avoid Telegram channels who promises to offer sure predictions, as none has ever proven to work.

 
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false. Anyone going into sports betting should understand football and betting strategies, it's better to rely on what you know than
Just paying for a prediction that is not guaranteed.
Punters only advertise their wins and hide their losses, most of them even edit winning tickets and lure gullible people to pay for their predictions
Analyse your games by yourself, the more you keep doing it you will keep improving
Remember to always stake what you can afford to lose

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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false. Anyone going into sports betting should understand football and betting strategies, it's better to rely on what you know than
Just paying for a prediction that is not guaranteed.

Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false. Anyone going into sports betting should understand football and betting strategies, it's better to rely on what you know than
Just paying for a prediction that is not guaranteed.

Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.
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July 22, 2024, 02:51:08 PM
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Yes, maybe people who are thirsty for victory will definitely do whatever they can to have a big chance of winning, until there are some people who hire analysts to help them predict their bets.

Yes, it is better for us to use our own result analysis, because even if it is wrong we can correct our mistakes and it will make us much more in betting on other occasions, I think this is much better than using other people's result predictions it will be disappointing if it is wrong and it will make it not so pleasant if we get a win, I am always very happy if the bet that is the result of my previous analysis turns out to be correct, it is much happier as a gambler. IMO

Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

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Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Yes, the meaning and conclusion is that it doesn't matter how hard you try because in the end winning will always be something that cannot be guaranteed, and I think that is a normal thing in gambling, because of course it will not be called a betting activity if basically the result is possible. predicted with 100% accuracy. Even though we bet on this type of sports betting, of course we can see which team is statistically stronger in that season, but still the results can never be guaranteed, in every ongoing league it is not uncommon for something to happen where the team is stronger and favorites who actually lose to a weaker team or even to a team that is in the relegation zone, it's surprising but that's what happens.

Basically, the key is to keep betting without having excessive expectations and also by not risking an amount that we cannot afford. This means that it is not a problem if you want to use the services of the experts offered, but with the caveat that you should not make winning a priority so that you are not too disappointed when the results are not suitable.

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July 22, 2024, 03:53:29 PM
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Yes, maybe people who are thirsty for victory will definitely do whatever they can to have a big chance of winning, until there are some people who hire analysts to help them predict their bets.

Yes, it is better for us to use our own result analysis, because even if it is wrong we can correct our mistakes and it will make us much more in betting on other occasions, I think this is much better than using other people's result predictions it will be disappointing if it is wrong and it will make it not so pleasant if we get a win, I am always very happy if the bet that is the result of my previous analysis turns out to be correct, it is much happier as a gambler. IMO

Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

There are indeed some players who are not confident and doubt themselves and that's the human failing that keeps them from developing, even though it's true as you mean that he really doesn't know what's really behind it, those strategists from the prediction maker are also the same as him who are both guessing and don't know the final result, their predictions out of 10 may only be one or two correct and that's not even guaranteed anything in the prediction, it's very disappointing if it's me, but yes we can't blame those who have that mindset, they just have different principles from us.

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July 24, 2024, 06:09:41 PM
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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Well, you are right, and it has been discussed countless times that AI prediction cannot beat the house because for anyone to be able to beat the house, they have to alter the casino system, which is not possible to do. Even if there's improvement in AI, there's no way it can beat the casino, so what's the essence of even trusting AI or human prediction when they don't give assuring games? 

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Exactly, I also have the same thoughts as you, where the experts' predictions are actually nothing more than fraud hiding behind something they offer. As you said, those who are called experts take advantage of people who believe in the predictions they offer, meaning that the more people who believe, the more money they will make.

For me it is strange, why people can believe in experts who offer predictions, because after all gambling is an activity that can never be predicted about what the results will be, meaning of course it is better for us to gamble using our own methods, because we only need money to bet and not have to spend additional money to pay for predictions from these experts.
because such players need a mentor who will tell them what to do more often due to lack of self-confidence or for the reason that there is no one to consult, or often such players are dependent on external opinion. Therefore, there is a huge demand for “expert” bloggers, but only they pursue one The goal is to make money on naive players, each performs its own function.

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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Well, you are right, and it has been discussed countless times that AI prediction cannot beat the house because for anyone to be able to beat the house, they have to alter the casino system, which is not possible to do. Even if there's improvement in AI, there's no way it can beat the casino, so what's the essence of even trusting AI or human prediction when they don't give assuring games? 

Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.

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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
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Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc.

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.
Not that i in any way would trust AI or human being right 100% of the time, because being 100% right about the future, isn't just a billion dollar gambling invention, it would change the world as we know it.

But not being right 100% at the time is hardly a reason on not to trust predictions at all. Because that's what sport gambling is. It's literally just predictions about the outcome, and reason it has money involved is that it's impossible to predict the future. If someone would have cracked the code on that, they would have broken the whole gambling industry.

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