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July 22, 2024, 02:51:08 PM
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Yes, maybe people who are thirsty for victory will definitely do whatever they can to have a big chance of winning, until there are some people who hire analysts to help them predict their bets.

Yes, it is better for us to use our own result analysis, because even if it is wrong we can correct our mistakes and it will make us much more in betting on other occasions, I think this is much better than using other people's result predictions it will be disappointing if it is wrong and it will make it not so pleasant if we get a win, I am always very happy if the bet that is the result of my previous analysis turns out to be correct, it is much happier as a gambler. IMO

Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

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July 22, 2024, 03:13:03 PM
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Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Yes, the meaning and conclusion is that it doesn't matter how hard you try because in the end winning will always be something that cannot be guaranteed, and I think that is a normal thing in gambling, because of course it will not be called a betting activity if basically the result is possible. predicted with 100% accuracy. Even though we bet on this type of sports betting, of course we can see which team is statistically stronger in that season, but still the results can never be guaranteed, in every ongoing league it is not uncommon for something to happen where the team is stronger and favorites who actually lose to a weaker team or even to a team that is in the relegation zone, it's surprising but that's what happens.

Basically, the key is to keep betting without having excessive expectations and also by not risking an amount that we cannot afford. This means that it is not a problem if you want to use the services of the experts offered, but with the caveat that you should not make winning a priority so that you are not too disappointed when the results are not suitable.

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July 22, 2024, 03:53:29 PM
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Yes, maybe people who are thirsty for victory will definitely do whatever they can to have a big chance of winning, until there are some people who hire analysts to help them predict their bets.

Yes, it is better for us to use our own result analysis, because even if it is wrong we can correct our mistakes and it will make us much more in betting on other occasions, I think this is much better than using other people's result predictions it will be disappointing if it is wrong and it will make it not so pleasant if we get a win, I am always very happy if the bet that is the result of my previous analysis turns out to be correct, it is much happier as a gambler. IMO

Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

There are indeed some players who are not confident and doubt themselves and that's the human failing that keeps them from developing, even though it's true as you mean that he really doesn't know what's really behind it, those strategists from the prediction maker are also the same as him who are both guessing and don't know the final result, their predictions out of 10 may only be one or two correct and that's not even guaranteed anything in the prediction, it's very disappointing if it's me, but yes we can't blame those who have that mindset, they just have different principles from us.

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July 24, 2024, 06:09:41 PM
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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Well, you are right, and it has been discussed countless times that AI prediction cannot beat the house because for anyone to be able to beat the house, they have to alter the casino system, which is not possible to do. Even if there's improvement in AI, there's no way it can beat the casino, so what's the essence of even trusting AI or human prediction when they don't give assuring games? 

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July 24, 2024, 06:22:42 PM
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Exactly, I also have the same thoughts as you, where the experts' predictions are actually nothing more than fraud hiding behind something they offer. As you said, those who are called experts take advantage of people who believe in the predictions they offer, meaning that the more people who believe, the more money they will make.

For me it is strange, why people can believe in experts who offer predictions, because after all gambling is an activity that can never be predicted about what the results will be, meaning of course it is better for us to gamble using our own methods, because we only need money to bet and not have to spend additional money to pay for predictions from these experts.
because such players need a mentor who will tell them what to do more often due to lack of self-confidence or for the reason that there is no one to consult, or often such players are dependent on external opinion. Therefore, there is a huge demand for “expert” bloggers, but only they pursue one The goal is to make money on naive players, each performs its own function.

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July 24, 2024, 07:59:06 PM
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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

Well, you are right, and it has been discussed countless times that AI prediction cannot beat the house because for anyone to be able to beat the house, they have to alter the casino system, which is not possible to do. Even if there's improvement in AI, there's no way it can beat the casino, so what's the essence of even trusting AI or human prediction when they don't give assuring games? 

Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.

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July 24, 2024, 11:12:36 PM
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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
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July 24, 2024, 11:25:32 PM
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Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc.

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.
Not that i in any way would trust AI or human being right 100% of the time, because being 100% right about the future, isn't just a billion dollar gambling invention, it would change the world as we know it.

But not being right 100% at the time is hardly a reason on not to trust predictions at all. Because that's what sport gambling is. It's literally just predictions about the outcome, and reason it has money involved is that it's impossible to predict the future. If someone would have cracked the code on that, they would have broken the whole gambling industry.

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July 24, 2024, 11:38:26 PM
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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions

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July 25, 2024, 02:39:29 AM
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Irrespective of how smart an AI may seem, gambling is still a game that cannot be accurately predicted all the time, no matter how good your AI tool may seem. In casino games, the programme used in making the results are usually made to enable random result selections and it's code are always kept private so it can't be manipulated and used by programmers to get into their system. However in terms of sport betting, we all know how unpredictable the games might be sometimes, even at the last minute, changes could be made that will alter the results.
AI will never be able to do what gamblers want and the reason for this is simple, if a player can use AI against the casino, what makes the player think the casino cannot use AI against them instead? In fact I am sure casinos are already looking into it as we speak, and this will make it way harder for those that make sport bets to profit from it, as the AI used by casinos will be much better than what we will have at our disposal, and it is very likely many successful sport bettors will find themselves losing their edge and will become losing sport bettors just like us.
I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions

AI can give you stats and ideas what are the advantages though in gambling there's no assurance that same thing will take place, even how good you analyze and how deep you research there's always upset that can happned, and same with you I also like to use my own knowledge instead of leaning with any AI information, I might use it when doing some research just to have an idea what are the factors that I can use in selecting games,

And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

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July 25, 2024, 08:35:46 AM
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I don't know why some people compare artificial intelligence with the normal human being in terms of gambling I know quite well that artificial intelligence come only give you something that is approximately to the same thing that a human being can give you body when you come in terms of gambling prediction and other programs that is involved gambling I don't think that artificial intelligence is best option to be used for anything that has to do with the gambling I think he using Man one should be the best option for us to use for gambling instead of using a bot that we don't know it functions
That's because they see AI can helps them to analyze deeper than what they do so they rely on that AI. Besides that, AI can helps them to search for more information and could be more details because AI can gets the information fast and complete than what they do. So that's normal if they rely on AI to search for the data and analyze it for them so they can place their bet.

But they still needs to learn more about analysis in gambling so they don't have to rely on AI because from that learning, they can improves their skills to be better. Each people who use AI will their reason why they rely on AI to collecting the data and use that for their analysis. But other people will still believe to gambling experts prediction because they already see how that experts performance. Other people who doesn't depends on that experts will still use their skills to analyze the match.

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July 25, 2024, 07:29:13 PM
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And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

There are lots of person who claims to be gambling experts in and create telegram channels where they give predictions, only for you to make payment before you can get a glimpse of their predictions. Irrespective of how they hype themselves, there are times where their predictions with as low as 2 odds still experience loses, that is to explain that nobody is above the table. Na matter how experienced you are, you'll still encounter loses as a gamble, the only difference between experienced smart gamblers from newbies is the ability to make a good risk management by know first their risk tolerance and working with it.

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July 25, 2024, 07:34:33 PM
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There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.

While AI has a lot of information, it is not necessary that AI will perform as an expert will do or even better. I know experts also work with previous matches and competitions from the club to decide what and how the future of such competition will pan out, and that's similar to what an AI prediction will do, however, there are some behaviors with respect to the previous matches that AI may not notice that will probably give an expert the hedge over the AI software. This is why I will still prefer to stick to the predictions made by an expert over whatever I will get from an AI if I have the option to choose from the two.

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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false. Anyone going into sports betting should understand football and betting strategies, it's better to rely on what you know than
Just paying for a prediction that is not guaranteed.

Even robots don't make 100% accurate predictions. Like you said, anyone going into sports betting should just learn the tactics and strategies of sports games and rely on what they know. Then they will be good. It's even simple to make predictions as long as the gambler pays attention to sports fixtures and knows the performance of clubs, the ability of players, etc. 

There's AI, or ChatGPT for example, but even if this AI knows all the information and stats of the opposing teams, it still cannot guarantee to predict the winner. Sports betting is fun, but we still face the reality that it's hard to win in gambling. I didn't say we can't win because that is not true, it's just hard but not impossible. Of course, it can be learned, especially if we know how to control our emotions. We can learn from our mistakes based on experience, and eventually, we will be able to develop our skills and maybe one day become professional sports bettors.
You are making a good point and it's more reason why I do not buy the idea of AIs in betting as many would think it would be better, there is nothing they would do that you can't do for yourselves. But AIs will make it easier for you as they can conclude on the preferred choices in a matter of seconds while it may take you several minutes to do. Aside from that, they can not do better than you as you also have access to the needed information online as well if you have the confidence.

As for the emotion, yes, they are better than us in that regard by nature, but I do not see a serious bettor who will be emotional about their options, especially in sports betting. There should only be a reasonable decision after the wide knowledge about the teams to be bet. Although I can't say of those who will be gambling the live matches, they could be emotional, which is why I avoid it. At the same time, I don't know what AIs can do better in this regard because the risk will always be high in live matches and so is the luck dependence.

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July 25, 2024, 09:57:00 PM
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Something that concerns the future or that has not yet happened cannot be confirmed accurately, but analyzing something based on possibilities or what we call predictions can help in preparing or making plans for action.
It is not recommended to trust predictions in the field of gambling, but predictions related to non-gambling types of gambling that do not prioritize luck such as sports betting can support making decisions based on data and experience.
It is true that any prediction doesn't work for gambling (casinos) and if the prediction stands for gambling sportsbook then prediction may work. The predictor must have to be well experienced and have a lot of data about the games, players, team, and so on to predict the match. Without proper knowledge, no prediction should be accepted.

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July 25, 2024, 10:16:18 PM
Last edit: July 25, 2024, 10:27:10 PM by Accardo
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Players always devalue the knowledge they are bound to receive by doing the analysis themselves. Such players want an easy peasy process guaranteed to be gotten through reliance on experts who are not far knowledgeable from them, with similar aim of extorting money from their victims. Those who admit working with experts as a straight forward strategy to maximizing their wins, are not prepared to become responsible players themselves. Laziness also restricts them from questioning the expert about how they manage to create prediction that nearly doesn't work at all times. Openly, it's preferable to predict without analyzing it, than paying an expert to do the analysis, we can't be sure if he actually did the necessary analysis work.

There are indeed some players who are not confident and doubt themselves and that's the human failing that keeps them from developing, even though it's true as you mean that he really doesn't know what's really behind it, those strategists from the prediction maker are also the same as him who are both guessing and don't know the final result, their predictions out of 10 may only be one or two correct and that's not even guaranteed anything in the prediction, it's very disappointing if it's me, but yes we can't blame those who have that mindset, they just have different principles from us.

Then, something intrinsical is going on in the player's mind, that doesn't allow him to have a rethink. An expert in any field is meant to win, often. These evidence of multiple losses is enough to convince such players that gambling wins can't be manipulated by experts. However, I can't conclude why they hardly think out of the box. But, it's simple to detect the devious scheme of these experts. Genuine gambling experts don't offer paid prediction services. Instead, they focus on advising players to stay responsible and implement responsible gambling strategies. Unfortunately, lies are too sweet in the ear. Nobody cares about the truth. Naive players think that the lies on game manipulation is the actual truth.

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July 25, 2024, 10:21:21 PM
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And  just the same with gambling experts or so-called experts I might use their ideas but I won't follow them directly as there's no guarantee cause if that's for sure they don't need small amount of money to earn but instead using their knowledge and they can go and make the house be empty handed, but surely that's not the real score they are asking for payment to make a sure earnings because win or lose they got your money and it's your call to take and risk your money both the payment you make and the actual bet amount that you'll going to use.

There are lots of person who claims to be gambling experts in and create telegram channels where they give predictions, only for you to make payment before you can get a glimpse of their predictions. Irrespective of how they hype themselves, there are times where their predictions with as low as 2 odds still experience loses, that is to explain that nobody is above the table. Na matter how experienced you are, you'll still encounter loses as a gamble, the only difference between experienced smart gamblers from newbies is the ability to make a good risk management by know first their risk tolerance and working with it.

I agree with you on this. Personally, I have encountered a lot of scammers who claim to be gambling experts because they are able to make some good analysis but at the end of the day when they are been paid they end up dropping games that will not turn green and when they are contacted for a refund, you will hear them say they will keep giving you games until you recover your money which you don't know when.

Those people you meet online don't have a special way of predicting games they do it the same way you do just that they have taken it as a business to scam people who think they can't win games unless they are predicted by the so called experts but once you understand that in gambling there's no expert you will never make the mistake of trusting anyone to send games for you to pay for it.

A lot of the so called experts takes their time to analyze games based of the head to head statistics but that alone can't win the games because they don't know what's going to happen right there on the pitch.

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July 25, 2024, 10:42:24 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No, if you loom across the board generally speaking they all lose as much as they win.  Now there might be a good run or 2 by certain individuals but they tend to go back to the mean and start losing some when people really start tailing them.  Problem is people hear about them when they are on a run and it's too late to tail them.  Suckers game.

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July 26, 2024, 09:32:05 AM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No, if you loom across the board generally speaking they all lose as much as they win.  Now there might be a good run or 2 by certain individuals but they tend to go back to the mean and start losing some when people really start tailing them.  Problem is people hear about them when they are on a run and it's too late to tail them.  Suckers game.

I agree, you shouldn't rely on others to make your own decisions. It's your choice how you spend a bit of your money for your own enjoyment. No one should be a voice of reason for your decision-making besides yourself.

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July 26, 2024, 10:13:52 AM
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Gambling is a game of luck, be it sports betting or casinos games, I see a lot of people paying for 2 odds or 1.50 odds from so called betting experts forgetting that these people are not robots, anyone that gives you a prediction and tells you it 100 percent accurate is false.
Gambling experts are not the ones who will predict the outcome of a match or a bet and it will be hundred percent accurate. We all understand that gambling is an uncertain future left largely to luck. It is not possible to predict 100% accurate results with this unbiased probability.
In the last ICC ODI Cricket World Cup final match between Australia and India, I basically bet on India as per the experts and in that match the experts basically put India ahead but the experts prediction was not true in that match due to which my bet was completely lost. Since then I don't believe the predictions made by gambling experts for now.

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