Mental rehabilitation clinic.

[Rockstarguy]

       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Firstly, when trying to help an addict free from gambling the stories of other people's gambling lifestyle can be used as a case study. It is not new that addiction in gambling has really destroyed the life of so many gamblers.  You will make the gambler to understand that he needs help to free from addiction , that winning is not about playing much games. Gambling is just just luck that winning doesn't determine how much games that are played.

You make the gambler understand that gambling result will always be unpredicted and their is no guarantee that in the future their will be a time when one will become rich from gambling,  so their is no need investing much in gambling.

[adultcrypto]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

The advice I will give to any patient in such a situation is to first get a job or a reliable source of income before considering gambling. Most people that end up in bad shape through gambling are those hoping to make a living solely from gambling. The moment gambling is seen as the only source of income, desperation will come in, fear and anxiety will follow it until the gambler is finally damaged psychologically when things does not work as planned.

As soon as the means of getting more money is fixed, losing gambling a few times will not be damaging to the health of a gambler, it will just be seen as the sacrifice to be paid for greater good.

[Accardo]

      Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Firstly, when trying to help an addict free from gambling the stories of other people's gambling lifestyle can be used as a case study. It is not new that addiction in gambling has really destroyed the life of so many gamblers.  You will make the gambler to understand that he needs help to free from addiction , that winning is not about playing much games. Gambling is just just luck that winning doesn't determine how much games that are played.

You make the gambler understand that gambling result will always be unpredicted and their is no guarantee that in the future their will be a time when one will become rich from gambling,  so their is no need investing much in gambling.

Gamblers who visit a therapist need to accept their faults or they'll have a hard time with therapy. He'll be ready to share those lifestyles with the therapist to help the healing process. Healing an addict sometimes goes wrong due to the therapist's inability to effectively contribute responses that'll help the addict understand that the therapist has an idea of what he's going through. Hence a therapist who has no accurate idea of how addiction works may not handle the case of a gambler. Hence in such a clinic, If I'm to be the therapist, engaging with the addict and sending out meaning responses to help elongate the discussion duration between us would be my best tool in curing an addict. Giving him advises will only erupt an argument, which wouldn't be of great help to the addict. Becoming his friend is the most effective means of solving a problem gambler's troubles.

[Outhue]

Have you seen one yourself? Some countries have high numbers of gamblers that ended up in the street, homeless and even some took their lives, some ended up in generational debt too, which makes their government to ban gambling, if mental rehab exists, I believe this countries will be the first to make use of it, but I can't find one.

Maybe that's because it's almost impossible to treat such patients? The mind is a powerful thing, you only stop doing something if you don't want to keep doing it, but if your mind is so fixed on the thing, you will always go back.

The only time I have helped an addict beat it's addiction was a year ago, but I still believe that he wanted to stop gambling addiction by himself, I just make him are reasons why gambling can't help everyone, in fact, most people will lose and very small numbers of people will win.

[yazher]

Most likely I start with his religion because if a person has some beliefs, he would be more likely to be attached to them and his faith is strong which could help him stay away from whatever things he is addicted whether it is gambling, drugs, alcohol, and sex. All of these have some bad results in the future if a person can't stop this while he is young and capable of doing so. After that, I will give him rational reasons to make him stop but if his ignorance is compounded, then it would be tough to convince him because he won't listen. Unless he came to you sincerely seeking some advice.

[temple]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

To get this straight, you are saying that because someone is losing more than winning in gambling means that person most likely doesn't have a system in place. You also say that someone who is a pathological gambler also has no system in place because the bad results allow for the conclusion that again no system was in place. But you say that if a person has a system in place, plays 18 hours slots with a slightly positive result is not a pathological gambler and you say that gamblers with a system in place can win as long-term gamblers or in other words, they can beat the house?

[moneystery]

i am not an expert in this field so i do not have the ability to answer this question.

however, dealing with gambling addicts requires not only the efforts of the doctor who treats the patient, but also the patient. the doctor will only give words of suggestion and therapy, and the rest is up to the patient whether they want to recover or not. because no matter how professional the doctor is, if the patient insists that they will continue gambling it will only be in vain.

[Crypt0Gore]

    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Some might bring up the fact that gambling is the only means they can come out of depression. They will claim that due to boredom and other problems they need gambling to be entertained and have fun. My response will be that gambling might not be able to cure depression. Depression can be handled by dealing with the root cause and not focusing on ways to reduce the effect.

Some will also argue that their gambling habits are hereditary, so it will be difficult for them to control. They will tell you that their father and even close relatives like uncles are gamblers. My argument might be that the belief that gambling addiction can be transferred through genes has not been scientifically proven. I know there have been such studies on this argument, but there has been a general conclusion that it is true.      

I don't always believe such claims, because now we have various ways we can entertain ourselves when boredom kicks in, what about having time with friends? What about movies? Netflix will take away your boredom, it works for me many times, you can also relax and read some books, there are people who also love playing video games too, it's not an excuse, you are already a gambling fan is why you think that gambling will solve your boredom for you.

Gambling is not hereditary, it's something that if you engage in, your children will follow your foot step thinking its something good, I've also seen gamblers who are parent as bad parents, they don't always have time for their offsprings, yet they influenced them with the wrong things.

To me it's just bad parenting, mind you, if we have to ask, how many families have you seen that are into gambling and doing so well? Hereditary to get your lives ruined by gambling or hereditary to be gods of gamblers? LMAO.

[Westinhome]

Most likely I start with his religion because if a person has some beliefs, he would be more likely to be attached to them and his faith is strong which could help him stay away from whatever things he is addicted whether it is gambling, drugs, alcohol, and sex. All of these have some bad results in the future if a person can't stop this while he is young and capable of doing so. After that, I will give him rational reasons to make him stop but if his ignorance is compounded, then it would be tough to convince him because he won't listen. Unless he came to you sincerely seeking some advice.

The old generation people who belong to the Muslim community had strongly portrait their younger generation not to get into the gambling at any point.So they had do the rules against the gambling,the rules are generally made by the man.The next generation people believe in the old generation people words by faith.This was the reason for the many people from the Muslim community doesn’t take part in the gambling at any profit was given to them.The reason was simple,because the have the discipline behaviour of following their religious book.Now the Muslim religion people never get profit or loss from the gambling site.

[wiss19]

I'm sure it exists, it's just that there is nothing famous about that clinic. or let's just say that the majority of workers there are psychiatrists. I think the alternative to gambling addiction is to go to a psychiatrist. Addicts usually always have psychological disorders, they have to fix it to truly become a good person again and recover their normal thinking. At least you can consult there until you are truly cured of addiction. This addiction can only be corrected through psychological treatment or there is no medical drug that can treat it.

It does, because mental illness do exist too aside from other illnesses. The rate at which people have a mental illness is high, especially nowadays, so mental rehab clinics were actually famous right now. Not just majority but all workers there are psychiatrists.

The alternative to gambling is finding a fun and profitable activity. If there are gamblers who badly wants to visit a psychiatrist, that can mean that they may be addicted already in gambling. Addiction is related to mental. The other term for it must be psychological disorder. If you suffer from addiction I think it does not mean that you are a bad person already. It's just your thinking are only messed up for a while but don't worry as it can still be treated. I know there are drugs too that can treat a mental issue.

[aylabadia05]

    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I am not a doctor but I am a health worker who handles patients every day and accompanies specialist doctors in their field.
The prescription that will be given to addicted gamblers is different from the prescription given to patients who experience diseases in health sciences.

If there is a gambling specialist doctor who treats addicted gamblers, it will be the opposite of the solution he will provide.
Most doctors will suggest why players don't care about the risks they will get. Next time be a responsible gambler. That's roughly what will be said. Lol

[Zoomic]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I am not a health practitioner,  but I think the best solution to help an addict is distracting him from his addiction.  Before This, we have to find out what attracts the patient to gambling,  is it for the money or for fun. We should be able to work with what ever response he gives. About distracting him, it can begin with giving him a similar activity  then with time he can advance to carrying out a total non related activity. If he does this well, with time he will no longer see gambling as a must affair. All this will ofcourse be backed with constant orientation and sensitization on the dangers of gambling addiction and the damage it has caused so far,  including the ones it might cause in future if not handled properly.  The response to this psychological treatment might be slow but at the end, it will yield positive results if followed duely.  Why trying hard to quit his addiction,  he would also learn how to gamble responsibly if he still wishes to gamble.

[Frankolala]

OP, I don't know how to help and addicted gambler talk more of an addict in a rehab and I am not a professional in gambling related problems, and I think it is a gamble specialist that can give you good answer to this your question.

The only thing that I can say is that an alternative means should be provided to engage the addict gambler that will make him forget about gambling. Maybe a game for fun or sport.

[Dzigie]

It's a good topic but it's also a difficult topic to talk about because the advice of doctors is more important in these things. I think group therapy can have a calming effect on these people. Being in a group that has the same impulses as us makes us feel that we are not alone. Also, the motivating words of the people there have a bigger impact on us. Medication would be the last thing I would recommend, because with medication we may get them out of gambling addiction, but we make them drug addicted.

[goldkingcoiner]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I think that rehabilitation clinics exist for gamblers as well, in most developed countries. Gambling is just the same kind of addiction as any other addiction. It is a chemical Dysbalance in the brain which causes the unwanted behavioral symptoms. I do not think it is a good idea to remove the use of pharmacology because medicine could be required for some cases. Especially if the patient has a genetically predisposed brain condition which makes him become addicted very easily.

Listening to the patient is really not a wise decision. They do not really understand what they are doing or saying because they are sick. To them, the world seems completely different.

I think the doctors who work at rehabs know what is best.

[usekevin]

OP, I don't know how to help and addicted gambler talk more of an addict in a rehab and I am not a professional in gambling related problems, and I think it is a gamble specialist that can give you good answer to this your question.

The only thing that I can say is that an alternative means should be provided to engage the addict gambler that will make him forget about gambling. Maybe a game for fun or sport.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will not accept the words of any people which includes their close friends and the family members including wife.After the certain game,the gambler should learn the game,playing the game all the time like the new gamblers will make you to loss the entire funds.The gambler who posses the loss again and again in the gambling site will face the big loss at the end of the day.So the gamblers should allow the time gap to rebreather and back to the game with the new strategies.If the gambler do the same strategy for the 24 hours period of time will leads to the loss.So the gambler keep changing the gambling strategy for few times in the same day alone leads to the good winnings in the game.This was the important strategy for the casino game in the gambling site.

[Assface16678]

Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.

Simply I would say, "why are you here in this situation?" it may be harsh or my approach will harsh but that's what I think is most effective, I will make him realized the hard part of his action, first I will make him realize why he is in this rehabilitation facility, it means that he is beyond help and his family can't help him anymore or possible his family don't want to help him, in that way he may reflect in his actions and start to develop a regret which could be use to say to him that gambling is the cause of all this happenings, if he will still persist and believe that gambling may bring him into wealth then I will still throw him a harsh reality of his action until he realized the terror of gambling and its effects, the terror of himself who he cannot control and the future awaits him if he still don't stop in gambling.

[Hispo]

It's a good topic but it's also a difficult topic to talk about because the advice of doctors is more important in these things. I think group therapy can have a calming effect on these people. Being in a group that has the same impulses as us makes us feel that we are not alone. Also, the motivating words of the people there have a bigger impact on us. Medication would be the last thing I would recommend, because with medication we may get them out of gambling addiction, but we make them drug addicted.

Sure, medical opinions from profesional doctors are supposed to be taken the most serious and those groups for people who are going through addictions like drug addictions, gambling addiction and even addiction to pornography, however I believe you are over-estimating the capabilities of those medicines to get people addicted to them and you are underestimating how effective their use can be to improve the cravings some people can have for gambling. In my opinion, if money or access to the medicine is not a problem, someone who is addicted to gambling should not completely cross out medicine as an option to their their condition, as least temporary. In the most of the cases those are not supposed to be taken for the rest of their life, only while the psycholical treatment lasts.

You know, I would like for more mental clinics to be available, specially in developing countries, where is sometimes the most needed.

[Publictalk792]

I think the gambling addiction clinic should use a mix methods and support groups instead of just relying on gambling experts. Gambling experts give good advice but it is good to deal with the emotional and psychological reasons why someone has an addiction of gambling. They should try to set their minds. Because some times people do gambling for relaxation but when they lose money this affect them emotionally.
The gambler may say that they can control their gambling or stop whenever they want. But this is not an easy thing. It's also important to suggest finding other things to do instead of gambling to keep them busy and safe them from to much gambling. In this way they will busy their self to others game and then with the passage of time they will leave gambling.

[Julien_Olynpic]

2.The argument “Most people lose in the long run” and “it is impossible to make money in poker and sports betting.” Still, we know, perhaps, several dozen people who have made or are making money from gambling. But there are very, very few of them. The main mistake a person makes is that he hopes to get into this very small number.
     But how can a person prove that he will not be included in this number?

You are not talking about a Mental rehabilitation clinic... As far as I can see from your opening post and this post you are talking about some "gambling school". A place where gamblers can learn more about gambling and about the ways of improving their winning odds.

The thing is that nobody can prove anything when it comes to gambling. It's on us to try it, as most of us are trying, but we don't know the result and we can't predict the outcome. In the end, just a few percent of people will make some profit and others will be on the losing side. There are no guarantees in gambling, so running this "gambling clinic or school" can give some people false hope that they can make money in gambling in the long run.

That's right, this is a non-standard clinic. This is a special thought experiment. You say that classes at this clinic or school may give patients false hope. I would say it differently. You need to be objective and tell the truth. But the truth is that hope may not be false. Yes, it is difficult to get into the top 1% of profitable players, but in principle IT IS POSSIBLE. And until we have proven to the patient that, given his situation, it is impossible to become one of the profitable players in the game, he will continue to cling to it. But for the 1% of patients, the right treatment can and should be proof that they can become a profitable player.
    Maybe the patient came to us by chance? And is this the future Bob Voulgaris or another gambling genius? Why should we tell him lies?