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January 15, 2024, 09:00:55 AM
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Someone who is a gambling addict will certainly be more open when he feels confident that he can get rid of his bad habit.  When they visit a rehabilitation clinic, of course they will have a strong belief that they can change everything.  All problems must be disclosed to experts, in essence there should be no coercion from anyone to change themselves except on the basis of their own beliefs.
If they become aware of their bad habits, they will try to stop them by visiting rehabilitation clinics and undergoing therapy sessions. They will also tell their problem to those closest to them that they are addicted to gambling, so they will ask for their help to support them in healing at a rehabilitation clinic. They know they must do it without coercion because it is for their own good. They only hope for support from the people closest to them so that they can undergo healing therapy well and cure their gambling addiction. If the people closest to them are willing to come and provide support to people who are addicted to gambling while still considering them as members of their family, it will make the person who is addicted to gambling feel happy because they have received support from the people closest to them. They will try their best to complete the healing therapy.
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January 15, 2024, 10:33:31 AM
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We, of course, do not know and most likely will never know the statistics of successful treatment of patients addicted to gambling. But I not only admit that many are cured, but I have also observed it many times. But this is a question of whether there are former drug addicts or not. After all, it is enough for some kind of stress to occur in a person’s life and the person will fall ill with his disease again. I would call successful cases of healing “controlled addiction.” I first saw this term in an interview with Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of IKEA. He said he had “controlled alcoholism.”

Actually, because of how prevalent and harmful those kinds of addictions can be in any society, I am sure you could get some stadistics or information on how much of a percentage of rehabilitated people get out clinics, you could get a glance of it searching on Google Scholar, for example, for both substances and behavioral dependences.
Out of curiosity, I have read people on the internet who are alledgely former users of hard drugs like crack and they say to have been clean for years, though, I do not doubt there are occasions when the craving could be felt.
I personally know someone who used to smoke much, however, managed to stay off tobacco for many years, he has confessed to me that there have been afternoon when he feels like smoking again, even after more than a decade.

It truly says something about of a former addicted person to opioids or crack could be feeling after some years...

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January 15, 2024, 11:15:19 AM
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I would just show him that it is impossible to win against the casinos in the long run. I would explain him the house edge, the odds and the math behind it. Casinos give themselves this mathematical advantage over the player and that's how they make money and that's also how the players lose money. I would give him examples too. I would even code him a basic dice game, give him some virtual money (which has no real value), and ask him to beat this game. Sooner or later he will always run out of balance and hopefully he will understand why he can't win. I mean he can win if he plays LESS and quits right away but since we are talking about gambling addicts here, they are not able to play "less". (or quit)

Anybody who understands math and how casinos work can see why he/she can't win in the long run.

I think that giving methematical therapy can be effective to help a gambling addict to have a paradigm shift, because even if a doctor gives drugs to an addict to suppress the urge of addiction, it'll still come down to letting the patient to understand the mathematical implications of gambling addiction. You hardly hear of a casino or bet company going bankrupt, infact I don't think that I've heard of any, so an addict should be made to understand that if there are more winnings gambling companies will be going bankrupt and folding up, but the industry is designed that there'll always be far more losers than winners. So the probability of beating the house and winning them is very low compared to when you're losing to them

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January 15, 2024, 11:22:31 AM
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I would just show him that it is impossible to win against the casinos in the long run. I would explain him the house edge, the odds and the math behind it. Casinos give themselves this mathematical advantage over the player and that's how they make money and that's also how the players lose money. I would give him examples too. I would even code him a basic dice game, give him some virtual money (which has no real value), and ask him to beat this game. Sooner or later he will always run out of balance and hopefully he will understand why he can't win. I mean he can win if he plays LESS and quits right away but since we are talking about gambling addicts here, they are not able to play "less". (or quit)

Anybody who understands math and how casinos work can see why he/she can't win in the long run.

I think that giving methematical therapy can be effective to help a gambling addict to have a paradigm shift, because even if a doctor gives drugs to an addict to suppress the urge of addiction, it'll still come down to letting the patient to understand the mathematical implications of gambling addiction. You hardly hear of a casino or bet company going bankrupt, infact I don't think that I've heard of any, so an addict should be made to understand that if there are more winnings gambling companies will be going bankrupt and folding up, but the industry is designed that there'll always be far more losers than winners. So the probability of beating the house and winning them is very low compared to when you're losing to them
I also have not heard one online gambling site go bankrupt unless they are an obvious scammy business that shuts down to steal the money that is stuck in the gambling sites. Well, it will be prison time for them.
Maybe that will help, telling them how low the percentage of winning is. Or, just making them remember their experiences on how rare they win whenever they gamble. Because that is one of the reasons why I don't gamble much. It's because of the occasional time that I win even though I am playing every day. The losses are more than the wins if I calculate it but that's only for casino games.
A gambling addict will always try to debate about this but if they could remember all the losses they had, then maybe that will make them realize that it should stop. It will not be easy to push that fact inside their head but maybe if it is done right then something will hit them that will make them realize it is the truth and it is actually based on their own exposure back when they are gambling. I doubt they can easily forget about all their losses.

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January 15, 2024, 11:53:01 AM
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Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give?
The arguments here is very obvious. Any individual who seeks the help of a therapist for their gambling problems certain is struggling deeply with it and it has messed up a huge part of their lives. What I will do in this case is to point show him all the things in his life that has gone wrong which is his fault and then on the flip side show him real life examples of former gambling addicts whose life were messed up but came for therapy and then straightened up their lives and are doing well.  It is a very strong example that can foster and motivate change.

This is an idea from my head but there should be a program that would show gambling addicts their lives in 10 years if they keep gambling irresponsibly. It is futuristic enough for them to change.

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January 15, 2024, 12:34:30 PM
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This is for psychologists to answer for counselling but since you asked us about our personal opinion I think the first thing to do here is to remind the said gambler about the risk gambling may influence in our everyday life before telling him about how to become a responsible gambler to avoid possible problems that might come.



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January 15, 2024, 03:09:40 PM
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I would just show him that it is impossible to win against the casinos in the long run. I would explain him the house edge, the odds and the math behind it. Casinos give themselves this mathematical advantage over the player and that's how they make money and that's also how the players lose money. I would give him examples too. I would even code him a basic dice game, give him some virtual money (which has no real value), and ask him to beat this game. Sooner or later he will always run out of balance and hopefully he will understand why he can't win. I mean he can win if he plays LESS and quits right away but since we are talking about gambling addicts here, they are not able to play "less". (or quit)

Anybody who understands math and how casinos work can see why he/she can't win in the long run.

I think that giving methematical therapy can be effective to help a gambling addict to have a paradigm shift, because even if a doctor gives drugs to an addict to suppress the urge of addiction, it'll still come down to letting the patient to understand the mathematical implications of gambling addiction. You hardly hear of a casino or bet company going bankrupt, infact I don't think that I've heard of any, so an addict should be made to understand that if there are more winnings gambling companies will be going bankrupt and folding up, but the industry is designed that there'll always be far more losers than winners. So the probability of beating the house and winning them is very low compared to when you're losing to them
I also have not heard one online gambling site go bankrupt unless they are an obvious scammy business that shuts down to steal the money that is stuck in the gambling sites. Well, it will be prison time for them.
Maybe that will help, telling them how low the percentage of winning is. Or, just making them remember their experiences on how rare they win whenever they gamble. Because that is one of the reasons why I don't gamble much. It's because of the occasional time that I win even though I am playing every day. The losses are more than the wins if I calculate it but that's only for casino games.
A gambling addict will always try to debate about this but if they could remember all the losses they had, then maybe that will make them realize that it should stop. It will not be easy to push that fact inside their head but maybe if it is done right then something will hit them that will make them realize it is the truth and it is actually based on their own exposure back when they are gambling. I doubt they can easily forget about all their losses.
Yes, there are scammers, but don't generalise about the industry. The majority of sites are actual businesses. Bankruptcy? Big players rarely have issues. But the bottom line is that gambling is pleasure, not a quick fix. The chances are always against you. Winning? No guarantee, just a bonus

Remembering losses? It may benefit some. Addiction is more complicated. Behaviour and mindset matter as well as logic. Support, understanding, and possibly intervention are needed, not simply facts. Responsible gambling (setting boundaries and stopping) must be promoted. Balance, control, and enjoying the game are key. The house always wins long-term

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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.

A treatment without a use of pharmacology is more likely uses a hypnotherapy procedure.  This kind of of process is somehow found to be effective in treating gambling addicts.  According to the article[1]  through hypnotheraphy process, it can help the patient to identify what triggers the addiction.

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Hypnotherapy for gambling is one method many people find effective. Through hypnosis and relaxation techniques, hypnotherapy can help the client access the deepest parts of their unconscious, and identify the triggers that led to the addiction. Once the causes are identified, the therapist will work with the client to help them break out of the negative patterns, learn how to manage their feelings and cope with triggers.

       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

As long as the patient wanted to get cured, I do not think the patient will resist the therapy.  Furthermore in hypnotherapy, the patient conscious state is in relaxation while the subconscious is open more open to suggestion [2].



[1] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/articles/gambling-addiction.html
[2] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/content/industryfaqs.html?_gl
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Someone who is a gambling addict will certainly be more open when he feels confident that he can get rid of his bad habit.  When they visit a rehabilitation clinic, of course they will have a strong belief that they can change everything.  All problems must be disclosed to experts, in essence there should be no coercion from anyone to change themselves except on the basis of their own beliefs.
If they become aware of their bad habits, they will try to stop them by visiting rehabilitation clinics and undergoing therapy sessions. They will also tell their problem to those closest to them that they are addicted to gambling, so they will ask for their help to support them in healing at a rehabilitation clinic. They know they must do it without coercion because it is for their own good. They only hope for support from the people closest to them so that they can undergo healing therapy well and cure their gambling addiction. If the people closest to them are willing to come and provide support to people who are addicted to gambling while still considering them as members of their family, it will make the person who is addicted to gambling feel happy because they have received support from the people closest to them. They will try their best to complete the healing therapy.
Like gambling addiction, admitting it is the first, critical step to treatment.  The secret element is family support, right? Imagine a personal cheer squad supporting you through this endeavour. Like karaoke with friends, they wave glow sticks and make you feel like a rockstar even if you can't sing. Such support might make the uphill climb more bearable.

Gambling is entertaining, too! The excitement of a tiny stake on a casual poker night or the tension of bingo are entertainment. Moderation, like taking a slice of cake without finishing it, is crucial. Having fun while being responsible can make gambling a fun activity. Hope you find balance and enjoy the game responsibly!

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Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give?
The arguments here is very obvious. Any individual who seeks the help of a therapist for their gambling problems certain is struggling deeply with it and it has messed up a huge part of their lives. What I will do in this case is to point show him all the things in his life that has gone wrong which is his fault and then on the flip side show him real life examples of former gambling addicts whose life were messed up but came for therapy and then straightened up their lives and are doing well.  It is a very strong example that can foster and motivate change.

This is an idea from my head but there should be a program that would show gambling addicts their lives in 10 years if they keep gambling irresponsibly. It is futuristic enough for them to change.

the reality of things will indeed give the perspective what will happen to the life of a gambling addict. yes, some type of visualisation will give them the clear picture of what may possibly happen to their lives if they will continue to follow the same path in the next years to come. maybe, present all the worst case scenarios that you can think of, so they know what they are about to face if they won't alter their lifestyle.

A treatment without a use of pharmacology is more likely uses a hypnotherapy procedure.  This kind of of process is somehow found to be effective in treating gambling addicts.  According to the article[1]  through hypnotheraphy process, it can help the patient to identify what triggers the addiction.

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Hypnotherapy for gambling is one method many people find effective. Through hypnosis and relaxation techniques, hypnotherapy can help the client access the deepest parts of their unconscious, and identify the triggers that led to the addiction. Once the causes are identified, the therapist will work with the client to help them break out of the negative patterns, learn how to manage their feelings and cope with triggers.

As long as the patient wanted to get cured, I do not think the patient will resist the therapy.  Furthermore in hypnotherapy, the patient conscious state is in relaxation while the subconscious is open more open to suggestion [2].


[1] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/articles/gambling-addiction.html
[2] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/content/industryfaqs.html?_gl

that technique, i believe is also one of the effective ways to combat addiction. and if the gambler is willing to undergo such therapy, he will find out that this route will possibly address his long time problem in gambling. he will thank the person who will introduce this to him to change for the betterment of his life in general.

uncovering the root cause, will properly address the situation as it will offer the route on how to really treat his addiction. because if they will only look at the surface, more then likely, the possibility of going back again and again to where he was will surely happen.

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Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give?
The arguments here is very obvious. Any individual who seeks the help of a therapist for their gambling problems certain is struggling deeply with it and it has messed up a huge part of their lives. What I will do in this case is to point show him all the things in his life that has gone wrong which is his fault and then on the flip side show him real life examples of former gambling addicts whose life were messed up but came for therapy and then straightened up their lives and are doing well.  It is a very strong example that can foster and motivate change.

This is an idea from my head but there should be a program that would show gambling addicts their lives in 10 years if they keep gambling irresponsibly. It is futuristic enough for them to change.

Such program would depend completely on speculations, as it's not a realistic to know how a person's mental problem would become in the coming years. It's like forecasting one's future. However, as a therapist, you'll achieve lots of changes if you show him examples of people who have struggled with addiction and later were healed. Those experiences help him to realize that his problem is solvable. Following up with strategic conversations that could make the person feel remorse for his mistake, helps in reviving back the real behavior of the person. This takes lots of time, friendship matters. People can change, but faster when a friend is interested in changing them. The addict needs help to get over his problem gambling, as a therapist it'll be nice, I pose as his close friend.

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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
Pretty sure this won't work and would only make the gambler think either that it wasn't their fault they lost their games and the loss is only because the system was rigged instead of accepting the fact that it was their own hubris and ignorance that lead them to unnecessary losses, or that they didn't even need to take their treatments anymore cause they can game just fine. The manner at which these people who are addicted and admitted to rehabs are treated is to give them the notion that gambling isn't the endgame lifestyle or game of choice that they can do. There are other ways to earn, enjoy, and realize whatever you wanna do without subjecting yourself to massive problems and financial turmoil, which is why none of them are given the chance to get a hold of gambling sites or whatever as it would only lead to them having further issues with gambling.

Even if this is a controlled setup I still wouldn't advise it. The current treatments for gambling addiction are seriously working and it's more on the willingness of the afflicted to receive treatment that really makes it hard for people with gambling addiction to recover and less about the treatments themselves. So with that in mind making rehabilitation and recovery a more appealing aspect than sunk cost is what should be the main focus of people in the recovery and rehab sector.

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Like gambling addiction, admitting it is the first, critical step to treatment.  The secret element is family support, right? Imagine a personal cheer squad supporting you through this endeavour. Like karaoke with friends, they wave glow sticks and make you feel like a rockstar even if you can't sing. Such support might make the uphill climb more bearable.

Gambling is entertaining, too! The excitement of a tiny stake on a casual poker night or the tension of bingo are entertainment. Moderation, like taking a slice of cake without finishing it, is crucial. Having fun while being responsible can make gambling a fun activity. Hope you find balance and enjoy the game responsibly!
Yes, family support is the most important thing in the gambling addiction healing process so that they can see that there is support from the family, and that will provide encouragement for them to undergo gambling addiction therapy. Perhaps it will speed up the process of healing his gambling addiction because of the support from his family so that the gambling addict will not feel too hard in going through the process of gambling addiction.

Yes, gambling really entertains many people, making them addicted to gambling. They already feel the pleasure of gambling, so it makes them return to gambling. However, if they don't accompany it by learning self-control, they could lose a lot of money and not be able to gamble responsibly. When they have experienced a gambling addiction, they have to undergo a process of healing their gambling addiction, which will depend on the wishes of each gambler.
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Yes, family support is the most important thing in the gambling addiction healing process so that they can see that there is support from the family, and that will provide encouragement for them to undergo gambling addiction therapy. Perhaps it will speed up the process of healing his gambling addiction because of the support from his family so that the gambling addict will not feel too hard in going through the process of gambling addiction.
Realistically, nothing will happen in the sense of achieving healing if the individual keeps insisting he could win if he tried gambling once more. There isn't cure when the person doesn't accept the fact he is ill. Family, friends, professionals can offer the most efficient support network to the addicted individual that it won't be sufficient. I even believe it could make things worse in this case, as the individual would feel inside a comfort zone, where he isn't confronted by anyone regards his delusional points of view, rather he only receives encouragements or reinforcements, instead of fair punishments for his distorted perceptions of what gambling can proportionate him. The person needs a "shock" to wake up to reality!

He needs to understand that if he doesn't change his mindset, he isn't going to have support from his beloved ones anymore, because everything in this life has limits. Not only the addicted is a flawed and weak human being with emotional limits. Everyone is, including the people trying to help him. If they see no results on their hard efforts, the tendency is they give up at some point, and once it happens, the addicted person will be by himself. So better that he doesn't waste the opportunity he is having in the currently moment to take advantage of every received help from this support network.

That is what he should be aware of.

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January 17, 2024, 04:22:38 PM
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Realistically, nothing will happen in the sense of achieving healing if the individual keeps insisting he could win if he tried gambling once more. There isn't cure when the person doesn't accept the fact he is ill. Family, friends, professionals can offer the most efficient support network to the addicted individual that it won't be sufficient. I even believe it could make things worse in this case, as the individual would feel inside a comfort zone, where he isn't confronted by anyone regards his delusional points of view, rather he only receives encouragements or reinforcements, instead of fair punishments for his distorted perceptions of what gambling can proportionate him. The person needs a "shock" to wake up to reality!

He needs to understand that if he doesn't change his mindset, he isn't going to have support from his beloved ones anymore, because everything in this life has limits. Not only the addicted is a flawed and weak human being with emotional limits. Everyone is, including the people trying to help him. If they see no results on their hard efforts, the tendency is they give up at some point, and once it happens, the addicted person will be by himself. So better that he doesn't waste the opportunity he is having in the currently moment to take advantage of every received help from this support network.

That is what he should be aware of.
The people around him may be able to show the person who is addicted to gambling the evidence or fact that he is addicted to gambling so that, gradually, he can open his eyes and see the changes he has experienced. When he can see changes in himself, maybe he will regret it, and when he feels regret and wants to cure his gambling addiction, that is what will make him want to visit someone who is an expert in treating gambling addiction. The family can continue to encourage him to undergo the healing process because it is for the good of himself and his family. When he can experience the healing process and has a family who continues to accompany him, he will see that his family does not just leave him but continues to be with him and provides encouragement and encouragement to recover from his gambling addiction.

Yes, he must be able to change his mindset, and even though he is already addicted to gambling, he can still change his mindset because as long as there is a will, there will be a way that will help him to heal himself. He can also get support from the people around him because they will always show the person who is addicted to gambling that they are people who care about him and want to see him return to the way he used to be, which can make them happy. This will encourage the person who is addicted to try to carry out the healing process well, and maybe it won't take that long for the person to be able to cure their gambling addiction. With encouragement from those closest to him, he can encourage him to keep trying, and even though it is difficult or difficult for him, he can still smile while undergoing the healing process.
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January 17, 2024, 06:45:46 PM
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Family and loved ones are something that is always worth fighting for, no matter how severe the addiction we had. For their sake it is worth living and trying to get out of the bottom in which we find ourselves. After all, if you don’t fight, then what’s the point in the game? I want anyone who finds themselves in a difficult situation to watch interviews with gambling addicts. There they talk about their path and what they have come to. I watched dozens of these videos and recognized a part of myself in each one. At some points I thought like them and it caused me fear. You don’t need to think that we are special in the game, we are just very similar in our behavior and actions there. In general, I want to say that for me it was a discovery, I understood a lot about the players, I advise you to watch it, I think this will really help many people not to slide into complete rock bottom.

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January 17, 2024, 07:11:31 PM
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
Im not really that a fan on convincing people for making themselves better but for those who are really that into this field then they might be able to find out a little bit easy or something that they could be able to handle on.
We do know that not all people would really be having that kind of interest on trying out to explain things into someone specially to those people who would really be definitely making out those counter arguments on which this is something that would really be irritating for someone who do have that short temper on which i do consider myself one. When it comes on trying out to treat up those addicts then it would really be hard
that you wont really be just making use of other methods rather than on having those words and explainations. They wont really be able to resolved out such gambling addiction on just simply
trying out to motivate them through words.

They would really be always having something to say on which this kind of discussions and exchange of words wouldnt really be ending up just a day.
Just let those things be handled with those specialist whether they would really be having those kind of method or would really be sticking into traditional ones.
It would really be that something to be that situational.

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January 17, 2024, 07:14:57 PM
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Family and loved ones are something that is always worth fighting for, no matter how severe the addiction we had. For their sake it is worth living and trying to get out of the bottom in which we find ourselves. After all, if you don’t fight, then what’s the point in the game? I want anyone who finds themselves in a difficult situation to watch interviews with gambling addicts. There they talk about their path and what they have come to. I watched dozens of these videos and recognized a part of myself in each one. At some points I thought like them and it caused me fear. You don’t need to think that we are special in the game, we are just very similar in our behavior and actions there. In general, I want to say that for me it was a discovery, I understood a lot about the players, I advise you to watch it, I think this will really help many people not to slide into complete rock bottom.

Showing the addicts some videos to see could be a valid strategy. Another way of introducing the addicted player to reason like the addicts in other locations of the world. However, such technique may not be effective for a long time, until he gets tired of seeing the videos. As he would feel reminded of his troubles at all times. Though I've not known the quality of the videos you talk about, but that wouldn't be an all the time routine, between a therapist and the addict. In the mental clinic the addict needs to share his troubles with the therapist. And while in discussion with the therapist he can use the video as a reference. While maintaining a close relationship with the addict without making him look like the people in the video. It could make the gambler enjoy the session; hence he'd visit some other times. But just viewing videos could be boring and the addict would miss his therapy classes. Because he's not meant to feel like an addict in the first place. The process is just to create a space in his brain for change of habit.

Condemning his situation wouldn't help the player heal or cure his problem gambling. When we find a struggling person, our goal is to struggle with them out of the trouble. Not standing on the corner, yelling, you are the cause of your problem! Same applies to addiction, the therapist is required to claim he's in similar trouble with the addict and offers effective responses to the gambler. To make him understand that the therapist is indeed undergoing same trouble as him. Then he'd easily open up and share more details to his trouble. How it makes him during the day and night. And how long the problem has been persisting. His ways of trying to solve the problem. The moment he begins to open up his personal experiences to the therapist. I think the main aim of therapy has been achieved.

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January 18, 2024, 02:22:07 AM
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They would really be always having something to say on which this kind of discussions and exchange of words wouldnt really be ending up just a day.
Just let those things be handled with those specialist whether they would really be having those kind of method or would really be sticking into traditional ones.
It would really be that something to be that situational.
I still think that words are of great importance. Not any words, but the right ones in a certain situation and in the case of certain people. I would say the words have a therapeutic value. Some ideas have both a therapeutic and viral nature. Many people have probably noticed that it is difficult for them to get rid of certain ideas. Ideas that are difficult to get rid of (viral ideas) can either encourage play or have a therapeutic effect. But the ideas should convince the gambler that there is no point in continuing to play. In principle, his life itself proves this to him. But often he refuses to accept obvious things. Words and ideas help him look at his situation from a different angle.
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January 18, 2024, 03:27:49 PM
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Family and loved ones are something that is always worth fighting for, no matter how severe the addiction we had. For their sake it is worth living and trying to get out of the bottom in which we find ourselves. After all, if you don’t fight, then what’s the point in the game? I want anyone who finds themselves in a difficult situation to watch interviews with gambling addicts. There they talk about their path and what they have come to. I watched dozens of these videos and recognized a part of myself in each one. At some points I thought like them and it caused me fear. You don’t need to think that we are special in the game, we are just very similar in our behavior and actions there. In general, I want to say that for me it was a discovery, I understood a lot about the players, I advise you to watch it, I think this will really help many people not to slide into complete rock bottom.

Showing the addicts some videos to see could be a valid strategy. Another way of introducing the addicted player to reason like the addicts in other locations of the world. However, such technique may not be effective for a long time, until he gets tired of seeing the videos. As he would feel reminded of his troubles at all times. Though I've not known the quality of the videos you talk about, but that wouldn't be an all the time routine, between a therapist and the addict. In the mental clinic the addict needs to share his troubles with the therapist. And while in discussion with the therapist he can use the video as a reference. While maintaining a close relationship with the addict without making him look like the people in the video. It could make the gambler enjoy the session; hence he'd visit some other times. But just viewing videos could be boring and the addict would miss his therapy classes. Because he's not meant to feel like an addict in the first place. The process is just to create a space in his brain for change of habit.

Condemning his situation wouldn't help the player heal or cure his problem gambling. When we find a struggling person, our goal is to struggle with them out of the trouble. Not standing on the corner, yelling, you are the cause of your problem! Same applies to addiction, the therapist is required to claim he's in similar trouble with the addict and offers effective responses to the gambler. To make him understand that the therapist is indeed undergoing same trouble as him. Then he'd easily open up and share more details to his trouble. How it makes him during the day and night. And how long the problem has been persisting. His ways of trying to solve the problem. The moment he begins to open up his personal experiences to the therapist. I think the main aim of therapy has been achieved.
I don’t consider myself an addicted person, but a few videos were enough for me to understand how difficult this path is. I don’t watch them now, but they made an impression on me and I remembered them for a very long time, if not forever. These are stories that balance on the edge of black and white. These videos help you where you can end up. I’m not saying that these videos, with interviews in which addicts tell how they hit rock bottom, will necessarily help, of course, for some it will simply not be interesting or even irritating. This will make some players think twice before clicking the "deposit" button.

Yes, but some players who are in a severe stage can pretend that they are undergoing therapy and do everything they are told. Even if it goes away over a long period of time. And he knows that as soon as he is released, he will take up the game without hesitation. There are players for whom nothing will fix or help, but if we don’t try any treatment methods, then we won’t even have a chance for healing.

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