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Definitely gamblers can argue to the end so it doesn't sound new seeing an addict arguing, in this situation the doctor like you said or the person in charge of this situation need to be smart and outstanding to answer every question, the person will always want to argue that gambling is not bad so as an addict but if I may ask what have you ever achieve from gambling or rather show me a valuable property you've bought with your gambling skills. Secondly deprive the person from gambling always, they're many means we can use to distract such person, I believe if the person can stay without gambling for one week then you're actually progressing. I don't necessary believe in changing an addict but rather they should learn and change by them self, this method looks like you're forcing the person to change and that's not right. People who are willing to change as an addict but they can't change is really bad, why not visit a therapist someone you can talk to and they'll always have a solution.
Forcing them to change their lifestyle may not really be a good route to alter their habits. But you can ask them what they really want in life, their possible motivations to change for the betterment of themselves. You need to convince them that changing the course of their life will lead them to a productive life and maybe a better future for them. Also, you need to learn the reasons behind why they are getting addicted or the reasons why they are into gambling. Knowing the root cause can give you insights on how to address their dilemma of getting addicted.
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May 05, 2024, 12:03:10 AM |
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Forcing them to change their lifestyle may not really be a good route to alter their habits. But you can ask them what they really want in life, their possible motivations to change for the betterment of themselves. You need to convince them that changing the course of their life will lead them to a productive life and maybe a better future for them. Also, you need to learn the reasons behind why they are getting addicted or the reasons why they are into gambling. Knowing the root cause can give you insights on how to address their dilemma of getting addicted.
It was the essential one,because many gamblers get addicted into the gambling.So the gamblers who get addicted should have the right place to balance the mental stress.The gambling is not the wrong one,but playing the game with more skills was important one.Even though you advise the gambling addicted person,they can’t easily get away from the gambling addiction.The reason behind the addiction was because of their previous losses in the gambling.The most of the gamblers try to get back their gambling losses by keep their games again and again till they recover their game in gambling site. The root for the gambling addiction is very simple their previous losses in the gambling addiction.But the problem is gamblers never accept their gambling addiction in the gambling site.Some of the gamblers never understand their gambling addiction,they simple thought they are playing the game to recover the losses. The gamblers should take responsibility towards their losses to avoid addiction in gambling site.
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You do not need all these extremes just deploy the ancient art of mathematics. Do your homework, play the game after considering all possibilities in hard ink. Stop spoiling yourself by betting blindly, if that is your entertainment then of course but if you are somehow feeling cursed and unable to control yourself do the maths on your problem. Break down each game, compare and contrast and then decide; deploy more of your brain not less.
Wonderful opinion. Many people forget about this or simply don’t pay attention. Really, why does a person lose for a long time? Why can't he stop playing? The word "addiction" does not explain his behavior well. What is addiction? I believe that the dependence within is very diverse. For some, it’s just a desire to relax and they don’t know how to manage finances and don’t know the term “money management.” Another has an obsession with winning a lot of money. But he doesn't even try to develop any rational strategies. He just places bets blindly.
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology. The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab. It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself. Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about? Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet. What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?
Actually I'm very much aware of the defense of the gambler because I'm a gambler too aswell so I will get a better understanding of his points of view and then I will have good points to counter his points in the fact that I have a first ha d experience so speaking from experience I think I will have a better edge of conviction for such gambler to understand that he or she should discontinued even if not completely but for a while and try out something else, it's very true they can quickly get rich gambling but then what are the chances and the odds that they will be able to get such done and in what space of time will they be able to achieve that and how much they would have achieved doing sometimes els within that period of time they dedicated all their time to gambling, but having gambling on the side will avail them a better chance to getting involved with sometimes that can help them in the long run. I will try to get them convinced in the fact that the chances and odds they get rich gambling is just too small hence it will be better they just decided to get something else doing while they are hopeful about gambling because if they keep investing their all in gambling alone they may get bankrupt while they are yet to get rich but if they have got sometimes else doing the chances are they will still be doing just great.
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May 05, 2024, 09:54:06 AM |
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It was the essential one,because many gamblers get addicted into the gambling.So the gamblers who get addicted should have the right place to balance the mental stress.The gambling is not the wrong one,but playing the game with more skills was important one.Even though you advise the gambling addicted person,they can’t easily get away from the gambling addiction.The reason behind the addiction was because of their previous losses in the gambling.The most of the gamblers try to get back their gambling losses by keep their games again and again till they recover their game in gambling site.
The root for the gambling addiction is very simple their previous losses in the gambling addiction.But the problem is gamblers never accept their gambling addiction in the gambling site.Some of the gamblers never understand their gambling addiction,they simple thought they are playing the game to recover the losses. The gamblers should take responsibility towards their losses to avoid addiction in gambling site.
That's why they must have controls over themselves in gambling and after gambling so they don't have a problem or gets addicted to gambling. Many gamblers already gets addicted to gambling because they can't understand that gambling is just for fun and not for making money and that's why we must take care of ourselves. And when they gets addicted to gambling, they must go to the clinic and meet professional that can helps them to cure their addiction. But before they go to clinic, they can tells people around them and share the fact that they are addicted to gambling so all of them can search for the ways to helps the addicted person. Many people becomes addicted to gambling because of many reasons and one reason is because they lose their money while playing gambling. But not many people realizes that they already gets addicted to gambling instead will still playing gambling and gets deeper in gambling. Gamblers will not accepted the facts that they already gets addicted so that makes them will not stops their gambling activity or even reduces their gambling activity.
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You do not need all these extremes just deploy the ancient art of mathematics. Do your homework, play the game after considering all possibilities in hard ink. Stop spoiling yourself by betting blindly, if that is your entertainment then of course but if you are somehow feeling cursed and unable to control yourself do the maths on your problem. Break down each game, compare and contrast and then decide; deploy more of your brain not less.
Wonderful opinion. Many people forget about this or simply don’t pay attention. Really, why does a person lose for a long time? Why can't he stop playing? The word "addiction" does not explain his behavior well. What is addiction? I believe that the dependence within is very diverse. For some, it’s just a desire to relax and they don’t know how to manage finances and don’t know the term “money management.” Another has an obsession with winning a lot of money. But he doesn't even try to develop any rational strategies. He just places bets blindly. Any gaming addiction is caused by psychological reasons, or rather chemical processes occurring in the human body. A person is looking for simple ways to get pleasure. A person very often psychologically depends on victories, so winning in a casino brings him great pleasure. Chemicals such as seratonin and dopamine enter the bloodstream. They cause a feeling of mild euphoria. A person with a weak will becomes dependent on these pleasant sensations and gradually develops a gaming addiction. To prevent this from happening, you need to control yourself well.
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May 05, 2024, 11:39:20 AM |
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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology. The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management.
I try to enter into your state of dilemma with regards to the topic and all I could find is a very difficult situation right here. Now this person isn’t sick, don’t need drugs to calm down at times, isn’t having itches or having to tear themselves up occasionally but rather, just a zeal to make money through short means. I think we already have a solution of treatment for these persons and that is, therapy. We might not need a doctor but, therapists and having to stop these persons from actually going about to make money for themselves by creating an environment (rehab center) where they just live day to day, eat and is just being spoken to and listened to wouldn’t help them. Remember, what pushes most gamblers is the zeal to make money and that’s how the addiction is easily developed, when you are about this pathway. Now, having to hold them captive in such rehab centers would only create in their minds a different kind of problem. They start to think everyday that they aren’t making money, are wasting their time and aren’t allowed to live. It seems bad because, these are people that wants to make money. They don’t need a place where they are kept away from society, they need to be in the society because they aren’t a danger to society but themselves. So, they should be in society and have therapy sessions, with a manager for his/her account with family and friends by their side to help.
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When people are addicted, they have a lot in common with other addicted people, the main thing they have in common is that they are doing that thing that causes them addiction because they want to have fun to forget their problems. So the point doctors focus on is asking addicts how they feel in real life, what causes them problems, what causes them pain and what they actually did to solve these problems that cause them pain. Then the doctor begins little by little by making the addicts do many things that make them happy, but which do not involve gambling or money.
This is so that addicted people over time begin to realize that there are many other things in the real world for them to do and have fun and doctors keep asking addicts about the problems they have and help addicts solve those problems while they are having fun. with other things, for example, suppose that an employee of a company is humiliated every day at work by his colleagues because he is very thin, because of these humiliations this thin employee spends a lot of time at home playing at the casino and becomes addicted to gambling. unlucky and quickly
So the doctor goes out with him every day to some place so he can have fun in that place but without any gambling, the doctor stays talking to him in that place. makes him laugh a lot, asks him what he would like to do in this place, with time spent doing this every day, the skinny addict will stop being afraid of people, he will stop feeling inferior and he will accept himself and not bother more when they call him skinny and he will make friends and stop his gambling addiction.
It is not a treatment that takes a few days. It takes a long time to completely cure an addict, it has high financial costs and you have to have a lot of patience. but it's worth it because it saves people's lives, unfortunately most relatives give up on the addicted person early, this is what makes it most difficult for addicts to heal, because relatives keep pressuring and condemning the addict
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When a gambler is admitted to rehabilitation, he is admitted to rehabilitation only when all the negative effects are observed in him and he is no longer able to protect himself from gambling. As a psychological I can't do any kind of consultant on gambling because a gambler or an alcoholic, whatever you call it, is only out of control when the brain is impaired and disordered. Methodology and therapy along with family support can have a hugely positive impact on them.
This is interesting, for this reason it is better to receive treatment based on a psychiatrist then? Because I understand that to stop a compulsive addict he has to do many things, even Sleep for days, the idea is to calm him down and not let him do Crazy things, what you say is Very good , if you are a psychologist then you understand mental states much better and psychological aspects of behavior in a person like that, but Sometimes I think that a Person who does not have that control should be Medicated, because otherwise things will not turn out well, of course that is what I think. .
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You do not need all these extremes just deploy the ancient art of mathematics. Do your homework, play the game after considering all possibilities in hard ink. Stop spoiling yourself by betting blindly, if that is your entertainment then of course but if you are somehow feeling cursed and unable to control yourself do the maths on your problem. Break down each game, compare and contrast and then decide; deploy more of your brain not less.
Wonderful opinion. Many people forget about this or simply don’t pay attention. Really, why does a person lose for a long time? Why can't he stop playing? The word "addiction" does not explain his behavior well. What is addiction? I believe that the dependence within is very diverse. For some, it’s just a desire to relax and they don’t know how to manage finances and don’t know the term “money management.” Another has an obsession with winning a lot of money. But he doesn't even try to develop any rational strategies. He just places bets blindly. Each case is unique. We need to analyze if the gambler is addicted due to ignorance, lack of discipline, or if there is a biological disfunction going on inside his brain. When it's about the first two cases, then we can expect educative therapies to be very efficient, if the gambler is willing to cooperate. However, when it's about the third situation, where there biological and chemical processes going on in disfunctional ways, I fear pharmacological treatment will be needed, at least on short run, until the gambler can calm down and start educating himself through the therapy. But again, since each case is unique, we can't assure a pharmacological free treatment will be enough to remit the addiction, although in my opinion it totally worth the attempt, because as we know, medical drugs have lots of side effects, including the most modern drugs which are heavily used nowadays to treat diverse disorders from the compulsive spectrum of emotions.
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When people are addicted, they have a lot in common with other addicted people, the main thing they have in common is that they are doing that thing that causes them addiction because they want to have fun to forget their problems. So the point doctors focus on is asking addicts how they feel in real life, what causes them problems, what causes them pain and what they actually did to solve these problems that cause them pain. Then the doctor begins little by little by making the addicts do many things that make them happy, but which do not involve gambling or money.
This is so that addicted people over time begin to realize that there are many other things in the real world for them to do and have fun and doctors keep asking addicts about the problems they have and help addicts solve those problems while they are having fun. with other things, for example, suppose that an employee of a company is humiliated every day at work by his colleagues because he is very thin, because of these humiliations this thin employee spends a lot of time at home playing at the casino and becomes addicted to gambling. unlucky and quickly
So the doctor goes out with him every day to some place so he can have fun in that place but without any gambling, the doctor stays talking to him in that place. makes him laugh a lot, asks him what he would like to do in this place, with time spent doing this every day, the skinny addict will stop being afraid of people, he will stop feeling inferior and he will accept himself and not bother more when they call him skinny and he will make friends and stop his gambling addiction.
It is not a treatment that takes a few days. It takes a long time to completely cure an addict, it has high financial costs and you have to have a lot of patience. but it's worth it because it saves people's lives, unfortunately most relatives give up on the addicted person early, this is what makes it most difficult for addicts to heal, because relatives keep pressuring and condemning the addict
It's about escaping something deeper than drug or behavior. Self-medication is often used to manage discomfort. Good addiction treatment works by identifying the root cause of the addiction rather than just advising someone to stop. Escape from such trap is brutal. Replace that short fix with something real and joyful. Consider a self-conscious individual who gambles to forget his emotions. Take him out, eliminate the gambling, make it fun, and he steadily rebuilds his confidence. It's slow and difficult, but feasible. Recovery isn't only quitting your addiction. Understanding what led you there and developing healthy life habits... It's about finding life's meaning again, not just therapy.
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by finding the motivation that needs to be carried out and must be discussed with people who have more experience in the field, in my opinion this is very necessary for some gambling addicts, they don't know where to change their personality to get rid of addiction, the decision is in their own hands to change it, maybe at first it's difficult, it all takes a long time. to reach the destination of the process and we can try to go to a mental rehabilitation clinic which is much better forin a way treatment.
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When a gambler is admitted to rehabilitation, he is admitted to rehabilitation only when all the negative effects are observed in him and he is no longer able to protect himself from gambling. As a psychological I can't do any kind of consultant on gambling because a gambler or an alcoholic, whatever you call it, is only out of control when the brain is impaired and disordered. Methodology and therapy along with family support can have a hugely positive impact on them.
This is interesting, for this reason it is better to receive treatment based on a psychiatrist then? Because I understand that to stop a compulsive addict he has to do many things, even Sleep for days, the idea is to calm him down and not let him do Crazy things, what you say is Very good , if you are a psychologist then you understand mental states much better and psychological aspects of behavior in a person like that, but Sometimes I think that a Person who does not have that control should be Medicated, because otherwise things will not turn out well, of course that is what I think. . Addiction requires therapy not a psychiatrist. Putting the gambler to sleep for days wouldn't make impacts since the memory of gambling wouldn't get erased from the addict's brain when he finally wakes up. Therapy works differently to recuperate the emotions of the gambler. He is mentally disordered not insane. It's just the difference. Those who are not mentally fine are taking to the psychiatrist. Addicts are only compulsive in the matters of gambling. They don't forget about their hiegine they still behave normal unlike those insane who act strangely. However, if unattended to, an addict may get himself insane. And begin to act in an unacceptable way. The right people to help an addict is his family. Those he most love and respect can change his thoughts for a while and redirect it to something productive. I've felt this personally on other activities which I felt was consuming most of my time, a friend recommended a game that now makes me focus and designate time for such activities. Not getting moved by it anymore. That's the strength of a loved one in such matters. A therapist can't start his work properly if he's not made the addict comfortable around him.
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Addiction requires therapy not a psychiatrist.
This is true, but we still do not know what we mean by recovery. In fact, what is recovery? This is very similar to alcohol addiction. I already wrote about this, if an alcoholic does not drink alcohol, can we say that he has recovered? We can ask exactly the same question in relation to gambling addiction: if a person does not gamble, does this mean that the person has recovered? But a person may not play for various reasons. For example, he may simply restrain himself, but in his heart he may have a passionate desire to play. This is why so-called “breakdowns” occur.
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by finding the motivation that needs to be carried out and must be discussed with people who have more experience in the field, in my opinion this is very necessary for some gambling addicts, they don't know where to change their personality to get rid of addiction, the decision is in their own hands to change it, maybe at first it's difficult, it all takes a long time. to reach the destination of the process and we can try to go to a mental rehabilitation clinic which is much better forin a way treatment.
In short, it's all just mental. It's not like we are taking a drug or a substance that is addicting to our body like nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, or whatever. In fact, nicotine taking is also just mental because I stopped smoking just by thinking about not smoking, and I also thought about my kids getting sick when they smell cigars on my breath whenever I kiss them. If it's really that addictive then I may have not stopped it. I smoked for like 18 years and just one instant I literally didn't take one cigarette up until now. 5 years. Even if we were to go to a gambling rehabilitation clinic, it might not work if our mentality when we go out is to gamble again. It doesn't work that way. What we learned in rehabilitation must be kept until we get out and we should stay disciplined until we won't think about gambling anymore even if we have the means to do so. Money.
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It's about escaping something deeper than drug or behavior. Self-medication is often used to manage discomfort. Good addiction treatment works by identifying the root cause of the addiction rather than just advising someone to stop. Escape from such trap is brutal. Replace that short fix with something real and joyful. Consider a self-conscious individual who gambles to forget his emotions. Take him out, eliminate the gambling, make it fun, and he steadily rebuilds his confidence. It's slow and difficult, but feasible. Recovery isn't only quitting your addiction. Understanding what led you there and developing healthy life habits... It's about finding life's meaning again, not just therapy. That good, but I think the only thing that is worthy and easy from is to have other activities that are much more interesting and can be much more profitable, on the other hand it must be an activity that can provide pleasure. I have said about things like this, if everything is about money then the escape that can be taken is to learn to trade and this activity can provide profits, fun and also lot of experience. In addition, nowadays there are quite lot of groups or trade groups that have quite large number of members from each region, they can joke with each other and also curse each other for the short pleasure of interacting with foreigners. I sure that in this way gambling will be more suppressed or forgotten, but it will all come back to each individual whether they want to do all that or not. Moreover, when they are aware of the dangers and impacts of gambling, they can think carefully about what to do when they are in bad conditions.
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Addiction requires therapy not a psychiatrist.
This is true, but we still do not know what we mean by recovery. In fact, what is recovery? This is very similar to alcohol addiction. I already wrote about this, if an alcoholic does not drink alcohol, can we say that he has recovered? We can ask exactly the same question in relation to gambling addiction: if a person does not gamble, does this mean that the person has recovered? But a person may not play for various reasons. For example, he may simply restrain himself, but in his heart he may have a passionate desire to play. This is why so-called “breakdowns” occur. When it comes to recovery, it is not only what the person actually does that should be focused on, so if we pay attention, when it comes to rehabilitation centers, there is a counseling session that is done so that the emotional and mental state of a person is also treated, we can't really say that a person has recovered from addiction just because we see them stop doing something, we can only say that they have recovered if they are fully healed and even if you put in front of them the thing they were addicted to before, they will feel relieved that they deny it.
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This is interesting, for this reason it is better to receive treatment based on a psychiatrist then? Because I understand that to stop a compulsive addict he has to do many things, even Sleep for days, the idea is to calm him down and not let him do Crazy things, what you say is Very good , if you are a psychologist then you understand mental states much better and psychological aspects of behavior in a person like that, but Sometimes I think that a Person who does not have that control should be Medicated, because otherwise things will not turn out well, of course that is what I think. .
It depends on the level of addiction, if the gambler is not at a very serious level, he should not be given medication to control his addiction, at most he will be given regular therapy to be able to control himself. Because addiction is very easy to treat, if the treatment is carried out by someone who is an expert in that field, some people don't even need medication to recover, because it's just a matter of rehabilitation and a deep and empathetic approach towards the addict.
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When a gambler is admitted to rehabilitation, he is admitted to rehabilitation only when all the negative effects are observed in him and he is no longer able to protect himself from gambling. As a psychological I can't do any kind of consultant on gambling because a gambler or an alcoholic, whatever you call it, is only out of control when the brain is impaired and disordered. Methodology and therapy along with family support can have a hugely positive impact on them.
This is interesting, for this reason it is better to receive treatment based on a psychiatrist then? Because I understand that to stop a compulsive addict he has to do many things, even Sleep for days, the idea is to calm him down and not let him do Crazy things, what you say is Very good , if you are a psychologist then you understand mental states much better and psychological aspects of behavior in a person like that, but Sometimes I think that a Person who does not have that control should be Medicated, because otherwise things will not turn out well, of course that is what I think. . Addiction requires therapy not a psychiatrist. Putting the gambler to sleep for days wouldn't make impacts since the memory of gambling wouldn't get erased from the addict's brain when he finally wakes up. Therapy works differently to recuperate the emotions of the gambler. He is mentally disordered not insane. It's just the difference. Those who are not mentally fine are taking to the psychiatrist. Addicts are only compulsive in the matters of gambling. They don't forget about their hiegine they still behave normal unlike those insane who act strangely. However, if unattended to, an addict may get himself insane. And begin to act in an unacceptable way. The right people to help an addict is his family. Those he most love and respect can change his thoughts for a while and redirect it to something productive. I've felt this personally on other activities which I felt was consuming most of my time, a friend recommended a game that now makes me focus and designate time for such activities. Not getting moved by it anymore. That's the strength of a loved one in such matters. A therapist can't start his work properly if he's not made the addict comfortable around him. I understand, but sometimes that type of Therapy can take away the compulsive thing, there are people who are not still, they cannot stay at home still, they all the time want to play and gamble, sell whatever, have money and go. to play, when they have a very strong addiction problem that is what happens, that is why when we are seeing that there are these treatments it can be done that way, of course it is not the ideal treatment, but I do see that there is a person It's very Dangerous because it Wouldn't be bad to Avoid doing crazy things.
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Actually, there are already because being addicted is not a new thing anymore. We have well-known addicts of drugs and alcohol. It's like a disease too but only targets the mind and heart or the emotions of the people.
Even without pharmacology, an addicted person being isolated on a place far away from their addiction's reach can do a big thing already for their recovery but they are not only limited to that. I heard they use injections there and as well as drugs to stabilize the condition of the addicts. That is even better. The main doctors there are I think not always a gambling specialist but they are only specialized in the mental health category, as these covers different addicted people not only limited to gambling.
If I'm the specialist or the doctor, of course I will apply what I have learned from school and my own research. I can't think of any other arguments that a patient can give apart from what you have said there but if I were to give a response to that, it will be the same to what you have said earlier, which is: 'if that's true then they won't end up here in the rehab'.
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