The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum.

[philipma1957]

I am 1 payment into the 100 payments I need to make up for the refund I gave to an un named mixer due to the mixer ban..  Just 99 weeks to go.

Why not try a different signature campaign on the forum you actually like posting? There's more than just mixers to choose from.

Nah I am giving my signature to talkimg for free here.

And I just got my second payment on altcointalk.

I have 102 back of the 4000 usd plus that I lost due to the mixer ban.

Just another 98 weeks to go.

I like giving my signature away for free here to talkimg.  it is a good service for bitcointalk.

This never was about the money as I state clearly "we as humans have a right to privacy."

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[franky1]

the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

[UmerIdrees]

I have 102 back of the 4000 usd plus that I lost due to the mixer ban.

Well, just as most of us wanted that those campaigns were not banned but the forum admins have to save the forum first. Just as we say that we have lost that much because of the ban, theymos also wouldn't want to continue and risk the forum. Everyone cares for themselves first and it sometimes turn out to be overall good for the community.

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

Well, you may take it in a different way as when you are in a gambling campaign, it is required that you post mostly in the gambling section. Similarly, if you are in the mixer campaign, they would not want the majority of the posts to be in the gambling section. It can just be that when a person is marketing gambling, he will mostly tell his thoughts about the gambling and when the person is in the mixer campaign, his mostly conversion would be relevant to privacy and such stuff. (He can have knowledge of both gambling and privacy/mixers and it's just the execution depends upon what he is marketing)

[philipma1957]

the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

exactly .  I won't do a gambling one .

I give this signature away to talk.img

I was sending him 0.001 a month from my mixers fees but I do not have that much spare btc so I gave him my signature for free.

I also kept an avatar that makes a general reference to privacy.


I make funds on altcoinstalks 5x slower than I did here. so i need around 25-30 months of posting their to cover my funds lost.

and I do not hold theymos wrong to do what he did.

I would not go to jail to run mixer campaigns.

I would not kill off bitcointalk for the sake of keeping mixers.

[OgNasty]

the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

exactly .  I won't do a gambling one .

I give this signature away to talk.img

I was sending him 0.001 a month from my mixers fees but I do not have that much spare btc so I gave him my signature for free.

I also kept an avatar that makes a general reference to privacy.


I make funds on altcoinstalks 5x slower than I did here. so i need around 25-30 months of posting their to cover my funds lost.

and I do not hold theymos wrong to do what he did.

I would not go to jail to run mixer campaigns.

I would not kill off bitcointalk for the sake of keeping mixers.

If you don’t enjoy gambling that makes sense. As far as your predicament goes though, you’d have your self-debt paid off in a few months rather than a couple years and wouldn’t have to post on a site you don’t care about.

Another option… Why not shill here for jambler? That’s basically the same as shilling for mixers under the guise of privacy and you can still do it here for money for some reason (which makes no sense).

[EarnOnVictor]

the effect i have noticed is this:

when people had mixer avatars and footers.. alot of their posts were always aimed at privacy, where they would then mention a mixer..
now when i see the same people with betting avatars/footers. their conversations are now gambling related...
when people are using/paid by the merit cycle troll meme.. their posts become more trollish

seems money decides their mindset

Lol...Money controls the most minds, it's only a few minds that can resist that. This goes with the integrity of the person and the core values they stand and live for, which can never be changed or bought by money. I noticed so many fake behaviours on the forum, and what happened during the M!xer ban fully shows that people are not often what they claim they are, not even the most reputable ones. Some are still only privileged for now.

It's all about the money even when they pretend to be something else. The changes will continue to unveil more drama (hidden and obvious).

[franky1]

lucky that i discovered bitcoin early and made my early retirement funds by just using my own investments. i never needed to become a sell-out

i see some people play to the narratives of those that fed them (misinformation, snake oil promotions, lies, scams, schemes or funding) and then they are stuck later on continuing to play the roll because it has become their identity they have to now live inside..  even when the rolls of money stop coming towards them

there are some where they do change their narrative when a new business category becomes advertised in their avatar and footnotes. but thats then just the comedy of showing how much of a empty shill/shell they became when they shift priorities based on funding

i seen some recent.. previously of the privacy persuasion when advertising mixers.. now on the get rich get famous gambling persuasion..
pure comedy

[amishmanish]

lucky that i discovered bitcoin early and made my early retirement funds by just using my own investments. i never needed to become a sell-out

i see some people play to the narratives of those that fed them (misinformation, snake oil promotions, lies, scams, schemes or funding) and then they are stuck later on continuing to play the roll because it has become their identity they have to now live inside..  even when the rolls of money stop coming towards them

there are some where they do change their narrative when a new business category becomes advertised in their avatar and footnotes. but thats then just the comedy of showing how much of a empty shill/shell they became when they shift priorities based on funding

i seen some recent.. previously of the privacy persuasion when advertising mixers.. now on the get rich get famous gambling persuasion..
pure comedy

I like your thoughts franky but its a bit ironic that you accept in the outset about having made bank through bitcoin to begin with.

Most people doing the advertising or looking to do it hardly care about gambling or mixer privacy or any of the shitcoins that used to get advertised in 2017-20 when altcoins first started being a thing. Everyone does it for the extra cash and more importantly, the easy bitcoin DCA.

It is indeed a luxury in today's precipitous world to know that your future is secure because of good decisions or fortunate co-incidences of the past. At the end of the day, everyone is looking for the "fuck you" stack, or in your case, "frank you" stack. Let them be.

[OgNasty]

Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.

[Poker Player]

Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.

No, actually now we have more proof of how dumb you are and the bullshit you say.

In 2023 suchmoon wrote

8 posts in April 2023
25 posts in June 2023
0 posts in May 2023
10 posts in July 2023

[OgNasty]

No, actually now we have more proof of how dumb you are and the bullshit you say.

In 2023 suchmoon wrote

8 posts in April 2023
25 posts in June 2023
0 posts in May 2023
10 posts in July 2023

Calls me dumb, thinks it goes April, June, May, July...

You could have just said you're focusing on shitposting under your alt accounts for signature money now that you can't launder your earnings.

[Poker Player]

Calls me dumb, thinks it goes April, June, May, July...

You could have just said you're focusing on shitposting under your alt accounts for signature money now that you can't launder your earnings.

Yes I call you dumb because every now and then I see you saying bullshit in the threads as in this case and when they are dismantled you either disappear without answering or you answer with an even bigger bullshit as in this case.

On the other hand this is not the place to discuss my supposed need for money laundering and my supposed alts.

OgNasty, of course, saying bullshit.

[DaveF]

People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here

Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?

Hey now, I made a lot of money as a stripper. People would pay large amounts for me to put my clothes back on :-)

Anyway, just saw this thread pop up and have to say I took a look at the altcoin form and *IF* you are into alts I don't think it's a bad place to hang out.
I am not that into them although I do use and trade, but for me alts are just a tool to get something done.

However, there is the other side of it which is, how many people did not even KNOW about the other forum until the mixer ban and it being discussed. I KNEW about it but never went there. Now I have been there a few times to see if I could find some info that I could not find here. That is where I see the other forum gaining active members from those that now see it as a viable place since it is growing they may go there more and cause even more growth.

-Dave

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Well, suchmoon had...

74 posts in December
29 posts in January
10 posts in February
4 posts in March

...so I would say that the mixer ban has had a positive effect on reducing activity among shitposters who only participate here for money.  In the case of suchmoon, we're talking nearly a 95% reduction in 90 days after the ban!  That's an absolutely amazing development.  I hope we see this continue and spread to other shitposters as well who provide nothing for this forum but drama while leeching funds from the community that could go towards supporting creators of goods and services.  

If you needed evidence that the mixer ban has already improved the community.  Here it is.

Not entirely true, IMO. His activity isn't tied to the mixer ban. In fact, most of last year even before the mixer ban, he was on and off according to my observation. I remember he used to also be a very huge merit source as well, but over the last couple of years, that activity also dropped.  Maybe he now has a lot of stuff happening outside the forum. You can never know.

[Poker Player]

Not entirely true, IMO. His activity isn't tied to the mixer ban. In fact, most of last year even before the mixer ban, he was on and off according to my observation. I remember he used to also be a very huge merit source as well, but over the last couple of years, that activity also dropped.  Maybe he now has a lot of stuff happening outside the forum. You can never know.

Of course, suchmoon has been an irregular poster and the supposed pattern that Og has seen has nothing to do with the mixer ban, as he had months and seasons that he wrote less before, as could be seen in the months I have referred to in 2023 but that is seen by anyone except Og.

[DaveF]

Just as a follow up to my last post. I am at this moment in a campaign that pays well. Before the ban I was in a different one that paid better.
My post count has dropped. But it has nothing to do with the pay. Since the start of the year I have:

1) Had to do an office move

2) While trying to clean up more stuff. I fell WAY behind on this project: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455887 [I have sold more things in eBay in the last 60 days then I did in all of 2023]

3) A few other clean up projects that sucked hours out of my life.

So as they say correlation does not imply causation.

-Dave

[examplens]

We are talking about the effects of the mixer ban on the forum, they mainly look at signatures, paid posts and whether someone has written more or less before.

But what about the actual effect of the mixer ban and reduced discussions about mixers?

Here is an example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491818.0 One guy registered to report a potential scam from a well-known mixer here.
A few days ago, information appeared about a problem with this service, so the question arose as to why this user did not do research first. But where should he do research? on a forum where the presence of mixers is prohibited?
Just a couple of months earlier, there would have been much clearer warnings.

Of course, Bitcointalk cannot cover all cases, but it has certainly lost part of its importance as a relevant source of information, due to the exclusion of the mixer.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

We are talking about the effects of the mixer ban on the forum, they mainly look at signatures, paid posts and whether someone has written more or less before.

But what about the actual effect of the mixer ban and reduced discussions about mixers?

Here is an example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491818.0 One guy registered to report a potential scam from a well-known mixer here.
A few days ago, information appeared about a problem with this service, so the question arose as to why this user did not do research first. But where should he do research? on a forum where the presence of mixers is prohibited?
Just a couple of months earlier, there would have been much clearer warnings.

Of course, Bitcointalk cannot cover all cases, but it has certainly lost part of its importance as a relevant source of information, due to the exclusion of the mixer.

A few months or years from now, when most of the legitimate mixers have stopped business or shutdown. It's going to be so hard for an average user to discover and trustworthy mixer through honest reviews that have been a common thing on Bitcointalk. Scammers are going to take advantage of the void left by the forum to create fake reviews that list their scam sites.

Maybe Reddit could try, but altcointalks doesn't even appear in the first pages of most search results.

[NotATether]

A few months or years from now, when most of the legitimate mixers have stopped business or shutdown. It's going to be so hard for an average user to discover and trustworthy mixer through honest reviews that have been a common thing on Bitcointalk. Scammers are going to take advantage of the void left by the forum to create fake reviews that list their scam sites.

Maybe Reddit could try, but altcointalks doesn't even appear in the first pages of most search results.

You can help with that by adding backlinks to BitMixList on your site, to anyone whose reading this not specifically you.

Right now I am languishing somewhere on page 2 or 3 on Google Search results and its not pretty.

I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.

If you guys can do that, well, there is a huge table of trustworthy mixers on the front page, so I don't see anyone getting scammed by phishing sites anymore when they type "best bitcoin mixer" or something like that.

[Elissa~sH]

I have figured out a long time ago that paying people for backlinks is a waste of time (and money), so this thing is going to have to grow organically.

I couldn't agree with you because I didn't think you were right. You said paying for backlinks to rank sites was a waste of time and wrong.
Good quality backlinks are on the first page of site results and look very good. If you go to a good SEO expert, he will give you a good direction for your site. Either way, your site will rank on Google and stay on the first page.
There are many categories of backlinks. If you can get backlinks organically, those links will be stubbled for a long time.

I am also sharing 2-1 sites I have worked on that are still in good standing. Submitting backlinks in multiple ways will undoubtedly save you money and time.

1: https://www.aaxel.ca/
2: https://www.crossroadshelpline.com/
I have worked on these myself on the site, and they are still in good position. The backlinks to these sites that I took myself have worked very well.