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January 27, 2024, 07:42:20 AM
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For anyone who gamble and can manage his gambling activities relating back to reality and family, that person can't be referred to as an addicts this is because, when someone is addicted to gambling, it can control all the person general well being and also at the same time his relationship with family.


it is true that addiction can only be called an addiction when a person cannot control themselves to be able to gamble and it interferes with their time and emotions. if a gambler can still control their gambling and their time with their family and finances, it cannot be said to be an addiction, because usually addiction makes it difficult for gamblers to control their emotions and it will interfere with their relationships with those closest to them.

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January 27, 2024, 07:48:43 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Nope, even if you do the right thing, if you're really addicted to gambling, it's not good for someone. Even if you show all the good things you've done in life and you know how to take care of things, you can't still say that gambling isn't bad for someone. Maybe one day all the Bad characteristics of a gambling addict will appear, so it's better to play moderately and know how to control yourself.



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January 27, 2024, 07:51:47 AM
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I don’t think you’ve seen someone that’s a chronic gambler ie someone that’s extremely addicted to gambling – you might just sit down and be conversing but what’s actually going through their mind is how to gamble, what trick have I not tried yet?, if I put x amount and predict sure x odds I’ll win Y amount, what if I use from this money and increase it times three I’ll be able to return it and have double for myself.

You will never come across an addicted person that will just be idle without having the urge to gamble – most times if they are wealthy they tend to spend foolishly on their account – some might even resort to selling their properties just to find their account. It’s always difficult to find one that’s decent.

Well said. But then, in my opinion, an addicted gambler is an addicted gambler. There is nothing like being extremely addicted. The moment you are addicted you are already showing extremity in your behavior. In my understanding, what differentiates a gambler from an addicted gambler is that a gambler still has self-control whereas an addicted gambler doesn't have self-control and so he is vulnerable to the instinct to gamble at all times even when it is so obvious that he has lost everything to gambling.

Such a person can even steal or lie to get money to gamble. He can borrow money from loan sharks to gamble. The only thing that preoccupies his mind is "Go and gamble you will win now". An addicted gambler can be likened to be person whose immune system is damaged, such a person is susceptible to attacks and so it is with an addicted gambler, you can easily run into problems since that power of rationality is lost. To me, an addicted gambler is an insane person.

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January 27, 2024, 08:21:41 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Nope, even if you do the right thing, if you're really addicted to gambling, it's not good for someone. Even if you show all the good things you've done in life and you know how to take care of things, you can't still say that gambling isn't bad for someone. Maybe one day all the Bad characteristics of a gambling addict will appear, so it's better to play moderately and know how to control yourself.


Bad characteristics of addicted gambler will surely flow up once they are affected on this and they can't say they are fine for having that situation that's why its never good to be addicted since we are one step to do unwanted things that we can't imagine to happen that's the reason while its early we need to cut something important while early so we cannot feel the worse scenario that we can possibly get in.

I know some is denial regarding on their status but if they are committing negative action that harms people already I think its better if they seek help so that they can get aid and getaways for any negative implication brought up by urge to game. We should really play moderately which has been always advice by authorities since it can help us perform more better and we can get the real fun compare if we come on situation that we can't control/

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January 27, 2024, 08:52:43 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


In fact, addiction has become something bad.  It's just that each problem depends on each individual. there is nothing better or worse than any addiction, addiction is still addiction. moreover, if addiction has become a problem that has a negative impact on both the addict's life and the environment around him. in the story you tell in this post, the impact of addiction on the person you describe is not a problem or a bad thing. or, something that is a big problem for their personal or family life, it is normal because they have the privilege of a decent life, perhaps healthy finances, smooth and consistent work and business. and fortunately, it didn't disrupt his family's economy. however, we can also see from all aspects what type of addiction the person is suffering from, because the types of gambling problems are divided into several groups.

I have the same story, and this is a true story. One of my close friends, you could say my senior, is very fond of gambling called slot games. that said, I detected that he was in an addiction phase. but he has his own measurements and bankroll in each of his bets. in fact, he has a growing business and he can even earn a lot of income per day. the great thing is, my friend only gambles by budgeting 1% or 0.1% of the profits from the business he runs. in other words, the bankroll he sets is in accordance with his abilities. the point is, he did everything as you said in this thread. but still, that he has been a very active gambler. which means, he is classified as an addict. returning to your question, addiction is still addiction regardless of the scenarios that occur in life, such as in the story of this thread. especially, if the addiction has become a disorder. which means, it is a problem that must be corrected by someone who experiences it.

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January 27, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


There’s no way an addicted person can still do what you are describing. Addiction is different to hobby because some people can play gambling regularly because it’s their hobby while addiction is something which they can’t control. No control means you will surely affect everybody on your life regardless if you are financial successful because your losses will always be in proportion to your financial status if you are already addicted.

I think you mistakenly assume a gambling hobby to addiction because addiction is intense which you can’t control it even the losses. You are still not addicted if you can still control your losses and just play what you can afford to lose despite you are doing it regularly.

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January 27, 2024, 09:09:02 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Gambling addiction will always lead to problems, maybe not now but there will be a point in time when it will interfere in your life, when you say addiction, it is a strong urge to do things at any cost, one of the symptoms is chasing losses that lead to losing money and spending more time that leads to neglecting the obligation to work and family.
You cannot say you are good if you're addicted to gambling, and it is better to cure it when it's still not interfering with your family affairs and your work, because gambling addiction is a problem that's waiting to happen it can happen anytime, and when it happens every good thing in your life will crumble, so if you think that you can control your addiction it's better to hire an appointment to a professional and rehabilitate yourself for your family and work sake.

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January 27, 2024, 09:19:34 AM
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I don't think that it's ever been good to have an addiction, sure if you're a politician that's trying to dehumanize then you can use addicts to be a monster for your agenda that doesn't really resolve anything but other than that, I don't think that addiction has ever been good and when you've got an addiction, that's already a bad thing and a problem. I just find this kind of like you're trying to justify that you're addicted to something or that you're already aware but you want to create an imaginary silver lining to that addiction so if you're really looking for one, I don't think you're going to ever find one.



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January 27, 2024, 09:20:53 AM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
From the word addiction itself is obviously bad for everyone.
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Addiction is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something. It is a dependence on a substance or activity even if you know that it causes you harm. It can impact your daily life.
Source: https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/what-is-addiction

As long as it causes harm personally and other people it is considered bad and of course can cause wide range of problems like money, bonding and relationship with your love ones as you have no quality time with them.



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January 27, 2024, 09:21:18 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


I think that any more of gambling addiction is bad, it doesn't matter if it only affects one part of the life of the gambler or many other parts. The issue is that life is never constant, there will always be changes and when you are already addicted to gambling that you won't be able to adapt those changes. Being addicted to gambling means that the gambler is not in control anymore and only follow his urges. Even if he is still in full control of the rest of his life it's only a matter of time for things to get worth. Also, I think that people with addiction problems are more likely to struggle with other addictions too. I saw this with my cousin, who was first addicted to drugs and now is addicted to cigarettes and gaming on his mobile phone. It's something about the brain that falls for certain pattern and once you are addicted, the brain will find subsitutes for it. So, better to treat any form of gambling addiction as soon as possible and not to wait for things to get really bad.

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January 27, 2024, 09:37:12 AM
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I dont think that is possible, if someone is truly addicted their is no way it will have positive effects on someone, because addiction is like a disease that distabilize everything about a man's life, from his way of reasoning, to his family and his financial state.

So to me gambling addict can make you do some despicable things, just as a thread I read how a man kidnap his grandchild and demand for ransom just to keep up to his gambling addiction, since he has no money to fund his addiction.

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January 27, 2024, 09:49:26 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

If they are doing well, paying their bills, providing for their families, then what's the problem. Some people enjoy gambling. Is this a hypothetical question or do you have an issue with someone? Could be considered jealousy if this behavior is bothering you.
Just a hypothetical question from my interest. I know there are rich people who gamble a lot, and because it is having no effect in the way they live their life because they make a lot of money too, their addiction is excused as not addiction. I think many people have some misunderstanding of what addiction is because whenever people mention the word addiction, it is usually associated with a bad thing whereas addiction does not only mean something negative, but somebody can also be addicted to something good too, or addicted to something that does not affect them. This is where some rich people are to me. They are still addicts to gambling, but it is not a problem. I asked the question to know if there is anyone who is thinking this way too, or if someone's opinion will be strong enough to correct mine.

From the word addiction itself is obviously bad for everyone.
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What is addiction?
Addiction is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something. It is a dependence on a substance or activity even if you know that it causes you harm. It can impact your daily life.
Source: https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/what-is-addiction
Your source is from a health organization, maybe addiction was only defined in their perspective. All addictions can impact one's life, but I do not agree that it is always negative.

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January 27, 2024, 12:11:16 PM
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I think it is the problem associated with a gambler as a result of his gambling habit that is called addiction. Like many people already suggested which I agree with, if everything is going normally with the behavior of the gambler as regards his obligations, it will not be fair to call that addiction. If you have seen a gambling addict before, you will know why people say that addiction is bad. You will see how urgent they need help becuase they are not in control of their character, decision and even their finances. Every other thing about them will suffer apart from their deposit into gambling platforms or shops. These are the people bringing bad name to gambling and making it look like a business of irresponsible people. Indeed, when problem exist in the life of a gambler as a result of his gambling, then we can say addiction is involved.

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I dont think that is possible, if someone is truly addicted their is no way it will have positive effects on someone, because addiction is like a disease that distabilize everything about a man's life, from his way of reasoning, to his family and his financial state.

So to me gambling addict can make you do some despicable things, just as a thread I read how a man kidnap his grandchild and demand for ransom just to keep up to his gambling addiction, since he has no money to fund his addiction.
Yes, it is true that gambling addiction always has a negative or bad impact so there is nothing positive there, why is it important to avoid gambling addiction because it is difficult to cure gambling addiction, many cases of criminal acts are committed just because people are addicted to gambling like what you read in this forum thread some cases may look bad and even cause someone's death just because of gambling addiction.

Always remember and realize before it's too late, if you feel like you've crossed your limits, you should never ignore that gambling addiction can affect anyone, so always limit gambling appropriately, don't overdo it too much, make sure you gamble responsibly because that can help us avoid gambling addiction, that's enough. cases that occur due to gambling addiction so it is better to help reduce it by self-awareness that gambling always has its limits and not be reckless as many gambling addicts do, play irresponsibly and spend money quickly just because they want to recover their losses and also win big.

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January 27, 2024, 12:30:58 PM
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I mean depending on the addiction right.  If you are addicted to reading books and you enjoy it and can live without doing other things to read than all good.  But in terms of gambling yeah addiction is bad even though it's not a problem.  Because it's not a problem doesn't mean it won't lead to problems in the future.  Best to enjoy gambling as a past time whenever it fits into your budget and schedule. 
Have you seen anyone that is addicted before? Immediately someone is addicted to gambling, the person will start noticing he is giving his time and money on gambling and that he is earning nothing than losses. Time is very important to people, the person will give it to gambling and he started and continue to lose money. That is just what gambling addiction is. OP do not know what he is defining, probably because he does not know who to be called an addicted gambler.

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January 27, 2024, 12:42:25 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


I don't think that is addiction, when one is addicted in something not even only gambling, such will focus more on that stuff and make sure that he or she satisfy the urge as soon as it arises, addiction in real sense can ruin people, so there no way one will be addicted in gambling and do his business normal, such person must miss appointment or even work as a result of looking for means to gamble if the chances isn't available earlier, addiction is not an easy thing, it discipline and the grace of God for one to really be free from it, so if we must gamble, let's pray that addiction shouldn't come our way because it could make someone to misbehave.

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January 27, 2024, 12:44:00 PM
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Anything that is too much is bad; no addiction is a good thing  This discussion boils down to the definition of addiction. When someone is addicted to something he or she does it with obsession that it satisfies one's urge and sometimes not being conscious that it is too much already. In this instance, we are talking about gambling afdiction. Gambling itself is being questioned due to its legal issues and cases that it drags people to worse situtations. And unlike with addiction with vices, this activity involves money and that means two aspects would be problematic; financial and overall being of a gambler.

Gambling is not a bad activity as long as the gambler manages the activity well. Once it reached the extent of addiction, that is the moment it would be a bad thing. Ever heard of gambling addicts who sold their properties out of desperation and debt? Ever heard of gamblers who killed themself because of frustration? These are only a few and the worst possible ending. However, addiction does not revolve only in these scenarios and that only means many people could be in danger of gambling without their awareness.

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January 27, 2024, 12:52:06 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem.
It's because that's their entire life and they don't have any other things to do. If they're addicted and they don't disturb with their lives, it only means that it is their livelihood or they're already rich and that doesn't bother them that they gamble any time they wish to. And another thing is that they're responsible gamblers but I think that it's contradicting to say that someone is a responsible gambler and at the same time is an addicted gambler.

They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
It's probably just because they don't cause any other problem to their loved ones but only to themselves. And that's why I agree to the title that addicted becomes bad when it's causing a problem. But when it seems like a casual thing being done by a gambler, there's not that much discussions on it as to why it's going to make someone's life miserable. If we'll talk about it in general, that only means that someone who's addicted to gambling is perceived with negativities and impressions by the public.

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January 27, 2024, 12:55:15 PM
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Addiction is something that you can't stop doing. So if you're a gambling addict, it means you've been gambling too much. And too much is never a good one. It's not addiction if you're still in your normal state, being able to handle your priorities even if you gamble a lot. You're just a gambler with a lot of money too spend in gambling, but it doesn't mean you're addicted. It's not an addiction if you can manage and handle your desire in gambling. How you can you be diagnosed with addiction if something you're doing doesn't cause you any problem?
Maybe for others, it doesn't show instantly that their lives are already affected with their gambling addiction because they have too much money, and they're still at an early phase. But after a long run, you will see the result of it since they've been spending a lot and their money starts running out.
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January 27, 2024, 12:55:19 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?



I think that by definition addition is something which interferes with the rest of daily activies which are supposed to be performed by a regular person. So there could some some contradiction in this idea about addiction which is not harmful let us talk for example about someone who is addicted to other things like videogames or sex. A person who is addicted to either of them will continuously think about having sex or playing videogames and not to be satisfied until he does it, those sorts of intrusive thoughts can collide with activities like working, interacting with family and even to take care of one's personal higiene.
If someone likes to play videogames or have sex with their partner and still manages to keep their life together that means such person is not addicted at all, becuase does not have intrusive thoughts and cravings for them, it only means they enjoy videogames and sex.

So my personal inclinstion is to see this concept as a contradiction.
There is not such thing as a harmless addiction.
And I believe we are not supposed to try to normalize addiction, it is okey is one decides to gamble, smoke, play videogames, have sex or whatever, while one is not directly attempting against the rights or others, but we need to have a clear distinction between that and someone who cannot regularly function in society or s family setting because they have lose control over what used to be a hobby or an activity to partake in their spare time.

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