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February 10, 2024, 06:45:12 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Addiction is addiction and addiction is very bad because the result isn't always good, the fact that a gambler always have the urge to gamble doesn't make him an addict, neither does giving in to urges make you an addict. One sign of addiction is when your gambling life affects other areas of your life. For example, your gambling budget is 20% of your income and instead of just sticking to 20%, your gambling starts consuming and cutting into other expenses and sometimes you even end up using all your income just to satisfy your gambling urges and you only feel better when you're left with nothing. Sometimes it makes you even go as far as going to borrow from others just to continue gambling.

And just because a person smells nice, dresses nice or appears to meet up with appointments doesn't really mean he's all good, you might never know just how much damage his addiction might be causing him, not until he opens up and spills it all out to you.
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February 10, 2024, 06:45:31 PM
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of course if your addiction makes bad things happen in your life, but if you are an addict who doesn't involve or disturb your finances and daily activities that's not bad, that's a responsible gambler, it's bad when you gamble beyond your means which causes a lot of problems in your life, especially your finances

it's bad when a gambler loses that's just it. the addiction problem is nothing if the gambler keeps winning. after all, he won't be scratching his head to find some money to pay his bills since he is winning all the time.

if you are in such a position, you wouldn't really mind whether you're an addicted gambler who would spend more of your time in the casino or infront of your computer betting most of the time as long as you are winning. but this is just getting extremely lucky. there is no way someone will keep winning.

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February 10, 2024, 06:50:22 PM
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There have never been a time once where addiction in gambling has never been a problem, the word itself is a problem and talked a lot about the meaning, so tell me, how can addicted gambler do without having a problem, this may really affect his career, family, relationship or even his way of life in general, having addiction is not is good and its never an easy task to also finds a means of dealing with it appropriately without the gambler being affected in any way, so its more better and honorably not to start it ever than when having it as a gambler.

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February 15, 2024, 02:21:03 AM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
Regardless of whether you are addicted or not, causing bad results is already a problem. And usually when people use the word addiction for any problem, it usually leads to bad outcomes or affects others. The aspect you mentioned about an addict can manage their money, I think that is not addiction, because when addicted, it is very difficult to use reason to control everything, especially with money.
Playing in control is not an addiction, but simply liking it and spending a lot of time on it, in my opinion. It is very easy to distinguish between addiction and non-addiction. When you risk everything to gamble even though you have no more money, or even do illegal things to get money to gamble, that is addiction. On the contrary, if you run out of money, you quit and don't continue playing, it's not an addiction.
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February 15, 2024, 07:54:43 AM
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There have never been a time once where addiction in gambling has never been a problem, the word itself is a problem and talked a lot about the meaning, so tell me, how can addicted gambler do without having a problem, this may really affect his career, family, relationship or even his way of life in general, having addiction is not is good and its never an easy task to also finds a means of dealing with it appropriately without the gambler being affected in any way, so its more better and honorably not to start it ever than when having it as a gambler.
Gambling addiction itself is a serious problem for them, and they will not be able to think clearly about what they are facing. Gamblers who gamble excessively will become addicted to gambling sooner or later. If they still cannot realize it, they will simply become addicted to gambling and that will be difficult to cure. And when they are addicted to gambling, they will no longer act like before because all they think about is how to gamble and they don't want to do other things. If anyone sees that they are addicted to gambling and they are family members or friends, it is best to immediately help those who are addicted to gambling before that person falls deeper into their gambling addiction, which is increasingly difficult to cure.

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February 16, 2024, 07:35:23 PM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
Regardless of whether you are addicted or not, causing bad results is already a problem. And usually when people use the word addiction for any problem, it usually leads to bad outcomes or affects others. The aspect you mentioned about an addict can manage their money, I think that is not addiction, because when addicted, it is very difficult to use reason to control everything, especially with money.
Playing in control is not an addiction, but simply liking it and spending a lot of time on it, in my opinion. It is very easy to distinguish between addiction and non-addiction. When you risk everything to gamble even though you have no more money, or even do illegal things to get money to gamble, that is addiction. On the contrary, if you run out of money, you quit and don't continue playing, it's not an addiction.
Yes, we do see that there are those people who arent that addicted but still ending up on having those problems like losing up a huge amount of money because they have made some all-in bets on the time that they do gamble and this is something like suicide thing to be done on which there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that be able to avoid if you have done it just earlier.
Addiction does basically means that you are already involving yourself into such activity on excessive manner on which it would be common sense that you wont really be caring about on how much you have
lost already on doing such activity specially in gambling. Any forms of addiction is always been that bad because you would really be doing things on excessive manner.

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June 22, 2024, 10:12:19 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

I don't think an addicted gambler can meet all these levels of sanity, unless he is not really addicted. I honestly think you have neither been an addict before nor stayed close to an addict, lest you know addicts are out of control. let's review the meaning of addiction first.

Addiction is physical or psychological need for a substance or behaviour that is physically, psychologically, or socially harmful. Addiction is accompanied by extreme difficulty in ceasing to use the substance or in ceasing to repeat the behaviour, despite detrimental consequences
https://www.britannica.com/science/addiction

you see from the above definition that addiction comes with lack of control, detrimental consequences physically, socially and psychologically.
 
Now, lets reconcile this to gambling gambling addiction is when someone cannot control his gambling urge, leading to irrational gambling involvements that leads to a lot of detriments in which most times his other priorities are affected which may include his family, Worklife and even dressing as most addicts are literally mad since all they have enough time for is gambling.

so, in the end you would agree with me that your description above is a responsible gambler and not a gambling addict.

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June 22, 2024, 11:25:33 AM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?

I don't know about others but to me addiction no matter how you want to twist it is very bad because even if you are an addicted gambler that takes care of your other obligations like you give attention to other life activities but yet addiction is bad and you can agree that an addict will always spend most of their time in gambling and may not pay much attention to other jobs that fetch them money and if someone can take good care of their other responsibilities without the proceeds coming from gambling then why do they choose to become addicted except maybe they find gambling profitable most of the time yet it's still not advisable to get addicted because a day can come where all the money you won will be lost again so on a more serious note gambling addiction is very bad.

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June 22, 2024, 11:38:23 AM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


I think that any kind of addiction is a problem. If a person is dependent and has no problems today, this does not mean that he will not have them in the future. Also, any kind of addiction is not good for the soul. An addicted person begins to think more about it, spend more time on it, and devote less time to loved ones and their own development. Any addiction has negative sides, but gambling should remain entertainment; addiction can cause problems over the long term.

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June 22, 2024, 12:26:21 PM
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There have never been a time once where addiction in gambling has never been a problem, the word itself is a problem and talked a lot about the meaning, so tell me, how can addicted gambler do without having a problem, this may really affect his career, family, relationship or even his way of life in general, having addiction is not is good and its never an easy task to also finds a means of dealing with it appropriately without the gambler being affected in any way, so its more better and honorably not to start it ever than when having it as a gambler.
An addiction that is not yet a problem is not an addiction.  When is addicted to gambling the person will be affected in one way or the other. Addiction is always known for running people's life , addiction is always bad and their is no how it is not going to affect a gambler when addicted.  If someone plays gambles and it is not affected either financially or emotionally,  and the person is still doing well as a gambler, it means the person is playing with the money that he can afford to lose or even playing responsible.

The signs of addiction is taking high risk, playing uncontrollably,  constant emotional pain, for one that is addicted must have a sign of addiction which will be a problem.

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June 22, 2024, 02:14:00 PM
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of course if your addiction makes bad things happen in your life, but if you are an addict who doesn't involve or disturb your finances and daily activities that's not bad, that's a responsible gambler, it's bad when you gamble beyond your means which causes a lot of problems in your life, especially your finances

it's bad when a gambler loses that's just it. the addiction problem is nothing if the gambler keeps winning. after all, he won't be scratching his head to find some money to pay his bills since he is winning all the time.

if you are in such a position, you wouldn't really mind whether you're an addicted gambler who would spend more of your time in the casino or infront of your computer betting most of the time as long as you are winning. but this is just getting extremely lucky. there is no way someone will keep winning.
It is impossible for any gambler to keep on winning when gambling is more of losses than win. The house hedge will always win that this were being an addicted gambler is a problem to the gambler, his family and the society.

Addiction has consequences and that is why it is bad, because it takes control over you to the point of doing things that you do things that you will never do with your normal senses, like borrowing money to gamble and selling of properties to gamble. Addiction ruins and frustrates the addict.

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June 22, 2024, 02:24:54 PM
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addiction is very bad even though there is no problem yet, especially if the person is not able to control financial spending. then his money will only be spent to fulfill his addiction. and everyone does not realize that he is addicted before bad things happen, for example, his property runs out or becomes sick because of the addiction or goes to prison, then people realize and want to introspect.
Usually that's what happens when everything is lost, and they just realize or regret their actions. How can someone who is addicted not have a problem or have no issues? I think you are wrong on this. In my opinion, his gambling addiction actually brought disaster to him, making him keep playing to find a way to get money to play again. It is best to arrange your budget in such a way that your daily needs are not disturbed due to gambling and your money that you bet is ready to be lost in this case and you will play freely without any burden.

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June 22, 2024, 02:29:26 PM
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There have never been a time once where addiction in gambling has never been a problem, the word itself is a problem and talked a lot about the meaning, so tell me, how can addicted gambler do without having a problem, this may really affect his career, family, relationship or even his way of life in general, having addiction is not is good and its never an easy task to also finds a means of dealing with it appropriately without the gambler being affected in any way, so its more better and honorably not to start it ever than when having it as a gambler.
An addiction that is not yet a problem is not an addiction.  When is addicted to gambling the person will be affected in one way or the other. Addiction is always known for running people's life , addiction is always bad and their is no how it is not going to affect a gambler when addicted.  If someone plays gambles and it is not affected either financially or emotionally,  and the person is still doing well as a gambler, it means the person is playing with the money that he can afford to lose or even playing responsible.

The signs of addiction is taking high risk, playing uncontrollably,  constant emotional pain, for one that is addicted must have a sign of addiction which will be a problem.

Don't actually know how to accept such statement on an addiction not being a problem. Whenever someone is addicted he's already in trouble of losing out lots of his funds and mind control. If it's not a problem then no need adding addiction in the sentence. Players are vulnerable to addiction and can't be capable of subduing it not to be a problem to them. I don't see or reckon any need to open up a reasoning around a problemless addiction. New players could harness this and think of being addicted and still under control. The thread topic should be “Is it bad when a gambling habit is not a problem"

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June 22, 2024, 04:18:47 PM
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Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


Addiction is addiction and addiction is very bad because the result isn't always good, the fact that a gambler always have the urge to gamble doesn't make him an addict, neither does giving in to urges make you an addict. One sign of addiction is when your gambling life affects other areas of your life.
You are just saying heresies bro, your points are very far from the truth. First, "addiction is not addiction" is wrong as used in the context because it is not all addictions that are bad. I had an argument with someone a while ago about this and I realised that many of you guys are just saying what comes to your head without making some extra searches to verify. Regardless, addiction is bad when it pushes you to some irresponsible acts, especially if it is affecting your life and that of your loved ones negatively. This is what I also realise you believe is the addiction, but there is more as addiction can also happen in a positive way.

If you ever love doing something to the point that you are obsessed with it, you are actually addicted to it and it doesn't matter if the thing is positive or negative to you. For this, people do have to paint you badly by doing it before it is an addiction. So some addictions could be good, it is all about what you are doing and finding it difficult to let go when you try to. This could be those things that include your hobbies that have nothing to do with money. It often starts by having the urge to do it most/all which you find difficult to control.

Summarily, addiction doesn't necessarily have to affect any area of your life negatively, it is the "controlling/obsessive power" that is the "addiction."

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June 22, 2024, 04:30:37 PM
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So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
Regardless of whether you are addicted or not, causing bad results is already a problem. And usually when people use the word addiction for any problem, it usually leads to bad outcomes or affects others. The aspect you mentioned about an addict can manage their money, I think that is not addiction, because when addicted, it is very difficult to use reason to control everything, especially with money.
Playing in control is not an addiction, but simply liking it and spending a lot of time on it, in my opinion. It is very easy to distinguish between addiction and non-addiction. When you risk everything to gamble even though you have no more money, or even do illegal things to get money to gamble, that is addiction. On the contrary, if you run out of money, you quit and don't continue playing, it's not an addiction.
While losing control is a significant red flag, gambling is designed to appeal to primordial instincts, the excitement of the chase, and dopamine. Even with good intentions, the vortex can trap you. Don't assume all gamblers are addicts. I've played poker. The line between prudent risk and chasing the next high is thin. For some, that line is very blurred

The brain can't distinguish "good" from "bad" addictions. The rewards are the same for stocks, art, and slots. Everything's about dopamine. Setting limits and budgets can help, but addiction is still a risk. Why are you gambling? Is it fun? Challenge? Are you trying to dull pain or fill a void? Since gambling is a quick fix, it might be a momentary escape. But it's unsustainable

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June 22, 2024, 04:49:45 PM
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There have never been a time once where addiction in gambling has never been a problem, the word itself is a problem and talked a lot about the meaning, so tell me, how can addicted gambler do without having a problem, this may really affect his career, family, relationship or even his way of life in general, having addiction is not is good and its never an easy task to also finds a means of dealing with it appropriately without the gambler being affected in any way, so its more better and honorably not to start it ever than when having it as a gambler.

I just assumed that Op was referring to regular gambler and not addiction. Most at times, people mistaken regular gamblers as an addicted gamblers while these category of gamblers are obviously different. As far as I know, it's not possible to be addicted to gambling and you will not have problem with some of your activities or even relationship with your loved ones. Just like the first reply on this thread by Oshosody stated, it's not addiction if it's not causing you problems.

It's not just gambling often that is addiction, it becomes addiction the moment it starts interfering with your activities while you can still not let go of it. In most cases, addiction makes one to forfeit their important times to gambling instead of using such time to do meaningful things. If it's addiction, it will either consume your money or your time. I think there is need for us to distinguish between addicted gamblers and ordinary/regular gamblers. If we are to go by Op explanation, almost everyone of us here will be refer to as an addict.

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June 22, 2024, 05:05:49 PM
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addiction is very bad even though there is no problem yet, especially if the person is not able to control financial spending. then his money will only be spent to fulfill his addiction. and everyone does not realize that he is addicted before bad things happen, for example, his property runs out or becomes sick because of the addiction or goes to prison, then people realize and want to introspect.
Usually that's what happens when everything is lost, and they just realize or regret their actions. How can someone who is addicted not have a problem or have no issues? I think you are wrong on this. In my opinion, his gambling addiction actually brought disaster to him, making him keep playing to find a way to get money to play again. It is best to arrange your budget in such a way that your daily needs are not disturbed due to gambling and your money that you bet is ready to be lost in this case and you will play freely without any burden.
It cannot be justified in any problem if it is addicted to gambling, there is nothing positive that can be taken from there because it damages finances, damages mentally and damages one's own condition, because it is true as you say it will come disaster into our hydpu, his ambition soul wants to continue gambling to sell whatever he has to be able to gamble again and again even with a losing and frustrated situation can make him have a bad temper and can hurt others, even atida care for the needs of himself and his family.

If a person can control his gambling budget, I don't think he is addicted, because he can control himself very well.

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June 22, 2024, 06:13:33 PM
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It cannot be justified in any problem if it is addicted to gambling, there is nothing positive that can be taken from there because it damages finances, damages mentally and damages one's own condition, because it is true as you say it will come disaster into our hydpu, his ambition soul wants to continue gambling to sell whatever he has to be able to gamble again and again even with a losing and frustrated situation can make him have a bad temper and can hurt others, even atida care for the needs of himself and his family.

If a person can control his gambling budget, I don't think he is addicted, because he can control himself very well.
This affects almost all aspects of our lives if we have an addiction to gambling. So we really have to be able to control ourselves as best as possible so that we don't become addicted to gambling in the end. For me, no one can control us apart from ourselves, so that's why it's important that we can control ourselves as best as possible. Other people can help, but they only help from the outside, in other words, we are the ones who decide.
Because if we are already in that addiction, then it will make it difficult for us to get rid of it. We have to be careful about things like this, don't let us fall into that hole. Someone who is initially very good at their economy can change everything in an instant.
I think everyone has thoughts like that in their subconscious, but for people who are addicted, those thoughts will be outweighed by the ambition they have.

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June 22, 2024, 06:33:00 PM
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If, for example, you don't feel like you are experiencing any problems in your life after you are involved in gambling then that means you are not addicted but rather you are gambling just to fill your free time, but if you feel that it is always difficult for you to get through your daily life without being involved in gambling then it is clear that means you are addicted, and if you say that you are not addicted even though you are in that situation then maybe I will say one of the reasons why gambling addiction can occur without the person realizing it.

I think we can't lie to ourselves, even if, for example, we don't feel like we are experiencing a significant impact as we often hear from other people's ideas discussing the bad phase of addiction, but still, at least you will definitely lose money and time over time, even if for example the amount of loss is not too big, and please evaluate yourself, because I am sure that there will definitely be a certain amount of money lost in gambling if you always find it difficult to pass your daily time without being involved in gambling and clearly that is a problem where you should not lose money in any amount if you do not gamble.

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Addiction in its entirety is bad one major reason is that it disrupts balance.  This means a person with an addiction tends to have an uncontrolled urge on whatever is addiction is.  Just for example a gambling addiction.  The bad effects of gambling addiction won't be instantly noticed but the negative effect of gambling addiction or uncontrollable urge to gamble will slowly noticed.  

First gambling addicts tend to put more hours into their gambling activities.  This will affect their daily activities and may result in job termination since he prioritized gambling over his work and will result in poor job performance.

The addicted gambler also disregards their health.  So in the long run, an addicted person who lacks sleep, proper nutrients, and exercise will eventually be susceptible to diseases and ailments let alone being an addicted gambler is already a mental problem.

And the obvious effect of addicted gamblers is their financial status.  Once their gambling activity is not controlled, there is a huge possibility that the gambler may lose a huge amount of money which can lead to financial ruin.

It's not a question of whether addiction is bad only when it is a problem because addiction itself is a problem so it is technically bad and should be treated right away.


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