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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Try asking him to seek professional help for him to be assessed properly and to be determined if he is just a problematic gambler or addicted already. Well, regardless of having a source of income, a gambler won't have an assured future in gambling. Luck and fortune determines whether you will be succeeding or not. On my end, I'd be fine not having progress with profit as long as my bank account is not receeding because of it. It would only mean that I do sometimes win, and sometimes lose, which is a normal thing to experience in gambling. Is it a good thing? Not for everyone but on my end yes because I enjoy the activity in general. My goal is to avoid losing that much, and fortunately I am still in profit although not ideal to many especially those who are expecting too much from gambling. If a person wants to succeed in gambling, then, first of all, he must learn to restrain his emotions and try to manage his money rationally. It is also necessary to choose the type of gambling, in which at least something depends on the actions of the player, and not just on his luck
It is defining what success is for a gambler. If it is huge profit then nothing will contribute into it except for luck to both skill based and luck based gambling games. Yes controlling emotion would help to lessen the tendencies for a huge loss but will not increase or guarantee winning bets. Sometimes, no matter how good your analysis is with sportsbetting, you won't be able to bag the win if you are unlucky for that day. So question, is there a success in gambling? Yes, but subjective. As I mentioned above it could be enjoying the experience and not losing that much or to be in small profit at least.
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January 30, 2024, 02:55:16 PM |
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OP, since your friend is mature enough and has enough sense and mind to know his own good and bad but the way he is gambling with his salary money will make him bankrupt in no time with more losses. Getting your friend off gambling definitely requires counseling and rehabilitation. He needs to be mentally and psychologically prepared to abstain from gambling by taking him to a good therapist and keeping him in a completely gambling free environment. He must be freed from gambling addiction by doing family counseling with him and keeping him in a recreational environment. That's why a trusted friend like you should always be by his side.
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January 30, 2024, 02:58:40 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
There is only one way for him if he truly wants to recover and that is asking for help,professional help but as a foundational base to success after such treatment,he needs to want this himself badly.There is no other possibilities as all other options beside professional help in such cases can only lead to worse consequences as the days pass by.Even if he had done some research emotions cannot be controlled so still he would need this professional help to recover.
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January 30, 2024, 03:33:21 PM |
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Having a job that provides income but always being in the situation of someone who is unemployed who has no income because of gambling activities, this is why something that is done in excess is always not good, as you said that they do not look like ordinary workers when we look at them financially. Addiction becomes one of the worst situations that exist in gambling if you simply cannot control your gambling activities well in the sense of not overdoing it, but the fact is that it is difficult to overcome this kind of addiction if you basically come because you are affected by the chance of winning something.
This also confirms that addiction does not see how old you are, the point is if you come and get involved in the wrong way and understanding then obviously one day you will be in a situation like the OP told about that person, they absolutely cannot miss a moment not to gamble and even to the point of being willing to spend all their salary on activities that basically do not have any certainty, one of the reasons in my opinion is because of the hope they put on winning, previous defeats they consider as a sacrifice for a much bigger victory. So the bottom line is that it is quite difficult to overcome the problem of addiction, and it must always start with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.
Indeed, doing things excessively is not good, because something done excessively will usually result in a bad outcome, especially if gambling excessively is not recommended, it is better to gamble in moderation, and it is indeed an addiction. It is also a common and serious problem, and this is certainly not a good day, with so many addicted gamblers it is a big problem. That's right, addiction doesn't look at age, anyone can become addicted if they gamble excessively. Most of them are addicted to gambling because they have high hopes and I think they are also aware that the risks involved in gambling are very big, but these risks can still be covered by their sense of confidence about the victory they can get. and it is indeed difficult to overcome addiction, and I think many people fail when they want to stop their addiction.
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January 30, 2024, 03:43:01 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Gambling addiction is fuelled by a desire to have that reward effect in our mind, unfortunately, no amount of advice that you can give will make him realize that he is doing it wrong, you can always employ the I told you so method every time he losses but he will keep on gambling because he can fund his bankroll and as long as he has a bankroll he will gamble. the best way is to always be someone he can turn to and when he needs help that will be the time to ask him to see a professional, a professional that can guide him and knows what steps should be taken to get him to the path of recovery to gambling addiction.
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January 30, 2024, 03:46:30 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
Firstly it is unwise to not have a source of income and yet gamble. Most people who gamble without an income source overtime, make gambling their source of income which is practically an unhealthy practice. This is because people of this nature will try to do whatever it takes to gamble just so they can meet their monetary needs , making most of them turn out to become Gambling Addicts. Even as a person with source of income, you are still advised to gamble responsibly this is to avoid such a person from losing his job or even worse, going bankrupt which will not only affect the gambler in question but also his family members either directly or indirectly.
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It's admirable that you've tried to help your friend by suggesting strategies like budgeting and saving, but addiction can be a powerful force that can override even the best intentions. Sadly, there's no quick fix for gambling addiction, and it requires a combination of self-awareness, professional help, and support from loved ones. I have only tip: Encourage professional help: Encourage your friend to seek professional help from a therapist or counselor specializing in gambling addiction. They can provide guidance, support, and coping mechanisms to manage their addiction and break free from its destructive cycle
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Having a gambling budget and limiting oneself to it will be a good option. A gambling plan will always guide him against overgambling because he would not gamble more than he has budgeted. Now the solution is not only about having a gambling budget but to follow it diligently. Many people have these budgets but cannot control themselves, especially when pursuing losses. Another piece of advice might be to avoid things that trigger his gambling addiction. He might decide to avoid gambling adverts and also stay away from friends who are gambling addicts. If his gambling addiction is at an extreme rate, they might consider seeking therapy from a gambling therapist.
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January 30, 2024, 04:11:51 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
I agree with what you say. If someone is not earning well from their job or doesn't have a job at all, it might make the person to easily become addicted in gambling but if an individual have a well paying job that requires their time so much, they may not have much time to gamble and I feel people who are working are less pron to addiction than those that are jobless. The worst mistake anybody can do is to become an addicted gambler when they are earning a huge amount of salary and always throwing all that salary into gambling. Such act will make the person never move forward in their financial status, just like you said. Such act will also strain their budget to the extent that they will even borrow from co-worker or other persons. The suggestion that I would have drop to help such person have already been mentioned by other members.
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In my opinion, the first thing you need to do to help this person you described in this thread is to first ask him if he can spend some time without playing. If he says yes, he can go some time without playing, then ask him if he's okay with going 2 months without playing anything, then keep an eye on him, I believe he'll tell you that he can go 2 months without playing and that he's not addicted. in games of chance. This is something all addicts talk about at first. After 2 months, ask him in a way that he doesn't notice, ask questions about the evolution of gambling and news about gambling. This will be used to test him if in these 2 months he really hasn't played anything
If you find out that he has been gambling during these two months, then be honest with him and tell him that he is ill, tell him that he has become addicted to gambling and that he needs urgent treatment and that until he seeks medical help and does not If you cure your addiction, you will no longer talk about gambling with him. This is hard but necessary. Now about researching games and casinos before playing, this is the basics that everyone should do. But the problem is that most people don't take the time to do research on gambling and casinos. They don't even know that gambling is not a place for making profits, and just for fun purposes.
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Yeah I think this is one of the biggest mistakes gamblers make, is not doing their homework ahead of time. I even find myself a bit guilty of it at times. Like recently on a gambling site I was playing Poker / Texas Hold'em and I was betting in accordance to how I am use to playing, but the rules were different and I ended up losing a good bit by simply not reading them. So shame on me.
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Try to convince that guy to change his gambling habit if it is impossible for him to resist gambling and it is not impossible to drag him out from it. If he spends hard earned money, convince him to find other job, less difficult. Maybe he wont get so killed at work (what if he gambles because he is to tired at work. He dont want or have no strength to think and realize consequences) and have time for something different. Or suggest him to get additional job. He could either spend only money from extra job. Or wont spend at all, as he wont have time ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 30, 2024, 04:24:20 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward? This is very possible, not everyone gambling is having the same orientation as we do and have that kind of understanding on what gambling is all about, we are not gambling in the guess to make it as an investment, we shouldn't deceive ourselves, and we we think we already have our money then wish to use it on gambling, we may lost everything to gambling and get broke or have nothing to add upon our business source of income than gambling taking away finances from us, with this, our business cannot move forward because we are not planning well enough without any not been affected.
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January 30, 2024, 07:50:11 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
if we don't earn, how can we do gambling. which means, we can conclude that most people who gamble have an income. whether it's from working as a laborer, working as a coolie, or doing odd jobs, especially someone who has a permanent job. Well, an interesting point for our study is related to being in one place, in other words not moving or moving forward. so it's like this, is this because of gambling? or, we as the perpetrators don't have the mindset to move forward! It doesn't matter if you gamble or not, this cycle almost happens to us humans. the point is, if there is action there will of course be a reaction No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
I understand what you mean, so let's separate my first post from what I said for the second point. if the person you're talking about in this thread is your friend, it's your job to tell him. direct it, try to approach it persuasively. however, don't get your hopes up that what you do in this way can be a trigger for him to reduce his gambling activities. that doesn't mean your friends will ignore it, in fact it's not uncommon for them to be very aware and aware of it. It's just that the problem lies with your friend. In fact, there are many ways and methods that can be used, one of which is telling his family to get involved to give him advice or advice. however, these measures are also sometimes ineffective if a person has experienced an acute gambling disorder. another way is to take this person to a specialist or rehabilitation center. thus, maybe he will get help from people who are competent in this field. but the most important thing is, strong desire and intention. If that doesn't exist, then all the efforts made by the people closest to you, including you, will not have a big impact, let alone lead to something positive.
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January 30, 2024, 07:58:15 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
If you have told him about those advises about gambling moderation and he/she didnt listen then its up to him.Yes, it would really be that understandable that showing up some concern is something that we do really like to do specially if we've known that person or simply a friend or really that close to us because we dont really like for them to end up miserable but we know that if advises turns out to be that neglected or declined or havent been listened then this is where we can really say that its never been that our mistake on letting them known or giving out some caution. People never ever learn up those things until they would really be putting up themselves on such tough situation. One thing that they do have in mind is that they do still have that source of income on which they could rely on. What if? one day they would really be able to lost those income source and would really be ending up jobless? For sure they would really be having those kind of realizations but well its already too late for that which the damage has been done already.
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January 30, 2024, 08:09:13 PM |
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The help that this guy needs is some professional help to make him realize that he's doing the wrong thing with his life currently. If he's spending all of his salary to gamble and if it's allowing him to enjoy and win some but losses the majority of his money, there's a need for him to reflect that he's doing the wrong approach. He have to set some limits to himself and even you'll give him the tips and heart to heart talks, I don't think that will ever resolve a thing.
He'd only listen to the professionals that will explain to him that what he's doing is going to put his life miserable, without savings, investments and even when he's going to have those, they're bound to lose it because he's totally addicted and outrageous in gambling. He has to help himself as well because no one's going to save him from that state and if his family sees his situation, he might get some help but they're not there forever to endure that repetitive actions that he's doing.
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January 30, 2024, 08:43:20 PM |
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Making money and nothing to show for it is the highest form of stagnancy, and the main fact that this guy brings such upon himself because of his addiction is very heartbreaking. That means he hustles very hard only to account every single penny to the casinos at the end of the month. That's bullshit.
Since you want to help him, and you don't want to hold his money for him. I'll advise you to secretly go and report him at his workplace, pleading with them to help him save money and release it to him only when necessary, at least until he's back to his senses and shun gambling addiction. His employers can summon him and the percentage to be given to him monthly can be discussed in his interest, or they can threaten him with his job if they ever learn that he gamble again.
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January 30, 2024, 09:04:06 PM |
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When someone enters the world of gambling, most of them enter full of hope. who does not have a fixed income and only has limited money, he hopes that by gambling he can change his financial condition through the big wins he might get. And for established people who have a steady source of income, they hope that by gambling they can multiply their finances and increase their source of income. But in reality, when they gamble uncontrollably, they have poor financial control and are too ambitious to win. So what they previously hoped for will be far from reality, where those who have a fixed income run out of money to gamble and for those who don't have a fixed income at all, the gambling they do actually makes them suffer even more. And even if you get a big win, without good self-control, the money will be used again to gamble with bigger bets than before.
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January 30, 2024, 09:12:31 PM |
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Planning is crucial for everything including gambling. It is totally bad to jump into gambling without planning which entails researching on what to gamble on, determining how much will be committed to the gambling section, setting target wins and setting up exit criteria. Using this approach will produce far greater results that casual approach to gambling. It will also help in curbing gambling addiction because the planning already specified when to stop both in the case of excess losses or big wins. Those who fail to have plan like this are probably battling with gambling addiction or are on their way to it.
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January 30, 2024, 09:27:52 PM |
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
You can't help someone who doesn't want help. I mean you can try it, but you will probably annoy that person and yourself. The real question is how close are you with that person, if you are close and you think he will pay attention to your words then you can try to talk with him about his life goals and what he expects from life if he continues with the same path. If you two are close maybe he we listen, but if you are not close with him then talking is in vain, and you will probably make a problem and he will start hating you. Some people don't like to hear the truth, and they don't like people who tell the truth. I am not sure how important this person is in your life, but if it's not much, I would tell you not to interfere in his life. Maybe it's his choice and you should respect that. If you don't respect it then he will just move even further away from you.
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