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January 31, 2024, 02:11:12 PM |
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There are so many person who just enter into gambling without proper research of what the game looks like,they don't know that gambling is like trading for those who know what trading is all about.It is a game of risk,and only those who have the mind and are ready to use their spare money to take the risk,are people who can win.The game is also a game of emotion,most persons put their mind on the games they've already played,but that's not it,every game played should be counted as a waste of money,because you don't know wther the game will play,or it wont.,therefore,setting a mind already that the money is lost will keep you at peace when the money eventually goes,and when you win,it will be an added boost to your financial power.
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January 31, 2024, 02:34:11 PM |
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Gambling addiction is real and destructive, if you have exhausted all the means of trying to talk to this person, then i think you have to seek professional help from a psychologist. This professional will take this person through therapy and that could work, it is not a guarantee, but i have heard stories of many people who overcame certain addictions in this way.
Gambling responsibly is the perfect way to do things, if you notice that you are spending so much of your money and time into gambling, then you have to stop immediately and seek help, because you are an irresponsible gambler, and it will affect your social life and relationship.
People do not know the damage of being an addict and the punishment that comes with it. we know that anything that addiction comes with is always disastrous talk more about addiction, whereby it has turned a lot of people into homeless and has wrecked a lot of people financially. addiction can lead them to the extent they have to see a therapist before they can do away with it. and other ways to is when you get busy there is no way you have gotten the time to gamble because. And different recommendations are coming from a therapist. having limits while gambling will set you free from a lot of risk. the moment you become addicted, only God can help you because there are complications that it come with we all know that people are interested in money but at the same time, your mental health should also be considered. before going too deep inside gambling. because it is not a place where you get too comfortable.
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January 31, 2024, 02:56:24 PM |
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He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
It's a little difficult to advise those who are addicted to gambling, generally they stick to their guns, but if you have advised your friend, in my opinion, your efforts have been maximal in lifting your friend from the misery that your friend is suffering from. There are other tips you might be able to do, try talking to the boss where he works, withhold his salary for one month and give him an understanding once again of the risks posed by gambling, If that doesn't work, it looks like your friend should act a little more firmly with him, this is for his own good.
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Accardo
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
There is no particular age at which you can be considered capable of making correct decisions when it comes to gambling, Age is never a consideration. You did not mention if he already has a family. If he does, then it's a major concern for his family. However, if he is single and only earning for himself, the least you can do is to keep advising him and attempt to talk him out of it. Taking or leading him to a new interest so you can shift his focus away from gambling is a good idea. You can get him involved in sports or help him meet a girl for a date the idea is to give him a new interest, so his focus is not only on gambling. When I was very active in betting in fiestas and losing a lot of money my friend helped me overcome this by introducing me to the sport of chess It is a mind game but it will strengthen your control and you will learn how to think clearly. Hello coin-investor, was chess game responsible for removing the irresistible gambling urge in you, how long was it until you were able to think clearly, as stated in your response. Board games as chess have some control over the brain, it enables us to think beyond the actions of the opponent. Thereby helping the person to take for few minutes, control of his thoughts. First time reading this, but chess game looks like a nice substitute for any other game that could remove addiction in a gambler's life. What matters is the conversations with the gambling addict. He'd need to understand the interesting aspect of playing such games as chess, and how it could uplift his thinking and take him miles away from gambling compulsively. However, the reactions may differ from one player to another, but it's indeed a great idea to divest the focus of the addict of gambling to chess.
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January 31, 2024, 03:06:40 PM |
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If he wants to change his addiction to gambling, he can start reducing the amount of money he gambles gradually, to the point where he only gambles a maximum of a few percent of his salary. Because if he continues to gamble his entire salary, it is certain that he will not be able to save or buy various things, especially if he is still 28 years old, he should immediately realize that at such a young age he must be able to prioritize his needs and gambling. Don't let him end up regretting what he has done because regret always comes too late and if he doesn't want to change then no one can help him other than himself.
Do you mean,if he wants to change his gambling addiction?he can't change his addiction to gambling,what are you trying to say.but if it's about changing his addiction of gambling he will need to sit back and make the decisions himself. Normally with all of this his chances of reducing his addiction in Gambling is very slim,as he can go extra mile in using even his own salary for gambling,so what will be left of him,he can as well sell off himself just to gamble any day that's the level of addiction we are talking about . And how he can get out of this mess be it's really going to be a tough one as maybe he might just decide on his own to stop gambling, probably when he must have lost everything he has achieve for years and beyond.
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January 31, 2024, 03:07:44 PM |
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Having a job that provides income but always being in the situation of someone who is unemployed who has no income because of gambling activities, this is why something that is done in excess is always not good, as you said that they do not look like ordinary workers when we look at them financially. Addiction becomes one of the worst situations that exist in gambling if you simply cannot control your gambling activities well in the sense of not overdoing it, but the fact is that it is difficult to overcome this kind of addiction if you basically come because you are affected by the chance of winning something.
This also confirms that addiction does not see how old you are, the point is if you come and get involved in the wrong way and understanding then obviously one day you will be in a situation like the OP told about that person, they absolutely cannot miss a moment not to gamble and even to the point of being willing to spend all their salary on activities that basically do not have any certainty, one of the reasons in my opinion is because of the hope they put on winning, previous defeats they consider as a sacrifice for a much bigger victory. So the bottom line is that it is quite difficult to overcome the problem of addiction, and it must always start with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself.
Indeed, doing things excessively is not good, because something done excessively will usually result in a bad outcome, especially if gambling excessively is not recommended, it is better to gamble in moderation, and it is indeed an addiction. It is also a common and serious problem, and this is certainly not a good day, with so many addicted gamblers it is a big problem. That's right, addiction doesn't look at age, anyone can become addicted if they gamble excessively. Most of them are addicted to gambling because they have high hopes and I think they are also aware that the risks involved in gambling are very big, but these risks can still be covered by their sense of confidence about the victory they can get. and it is indeed difficult to overcome addiction, and I think many people fail when they want to stop their addiction. Of course, in anything and everything you do for example in real life if it is done excessively it will be synonymous with results that are usually not good or even disappointing, especially if this is applied to gambling activities which in fact have absolutely no certainty and guarantee of anything at the end of the session, You will end up with two possibilities of winning or losing, it is really unknowable and this is the reason why it is really not recommended to overdo it in gambling, the worry is when you cannot accept the fact of losing and of course it can make you emotional and in the end gamble impulsively and end up with addiction. Another thing as I said above that addiction is the worst situation that exists in gambling, you can get into this situation unconsciously through emotional scenarios that take control of yourself in certain situations especially when you are on a losing streak due to overaction. You have confirmed my statement above, so to be honest I really don't understand what some people say about not disputing or even advising the elderly to spend their retirement by engaging in gambling activities, as I said above that gambling is absolutely regardless of age, We are sentient beings in the sense that we are easily influenced by things, especially things that we cannot accept and that means that no matter if you are an elderly person if you are not a responsible enough gambler by nature then it is clear that eventually you will be able to enter the addiction phase unconsciously because gambling involves expectations which also means that when you put your hopes on winning then it is usually difficult to ignore the situation of losing which in turn makes a person more emotional and gamble with the aim of returning something that has been lost. It is a fact that addiction is a difficult problem to overcome, it is a disease that lies in one's mind and this is the reason why I previously said that addiction can only be overcome with the awareness and desire of the gambler himself. The end of gambling is indeed two wins or losses, but in my opinion these two things are not factors that will definitely make them stop gambling, they may continue to gamble when they lose because it will make them curious, and even if they win only a few people can cash in on the winnings, most of them are addicted and produce them so they continue gambling. and with this it is tantamount to gambling excessively. It's true, everyone will be easily influenced especially when it comes to profit or money, then everyone will certainly be easily influenced or tempted. because gambling involves profit even though it is not certain that it will be easily obtained but many people have been influenced by gambling so that they experience many losses. returning something that has been lost is just a silly thought especially if this happens in gambling, because it is clear that in gambling the chances of winning are very slim so there is no way they can return the money that has been lost for sure. If you're going to do gambling, you should be able to see all the bad effects if you can't control yourself properly. unless you really want to experience destruction in life then gambling excessively is one of the effective ways to do it, it's just that I don't think it's possible for anyone to want their life to be destroyed on purpose.
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January 31, 2024, 03:43:11 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
There is no particular age at which you can be considered capable of making correct decisions when it comes to gambling, Age is never a consideration. You did not mention if he already has a family. If he does, then it's a major concern for his family. However, if he is single and only earning for himself, the least you can do is to keep advising him and attempt to talk him out of it. Taking or leading him to a new interest so you can shift his focus away from gambling is a good idea. You can get him involved in sports or help him meet a girl for a date the idea is to give him a new interest, so his focus is not only on gambling. When I was very active in betting in fiestas and losing a lot of money my friend helped me overcome this by introducing me to the sport of chess It is a mind game but it will strengthen your control and you will learn how to think clearly. Hello coin-investor, was chess game responsible for removing the irresistible gambling urge in you, how long was it until you were able to think clearly, as stated in your response. Board games as chess have some control over the brain, it enables us to think beyond the actions of the opponent. Thereby helping the person to take for few minutes, control of his thoughts. First time reading this, but chess game looks like a nice substitute for any other game that could remove addiction in a gambler's life. What matters is the conversations with the gambling addict. He'd need to understand the interesting aspect of playing such games as chess, and how it could uplift his thinking and take him miles away from gambling compulsively. However, the reactions may differ from one player to another, but it's indeed a great idea to divest the focus of the addict of gambling to chess. Hello, Accardo Yeah I'd like to thank my friend for introducing me to the board game chess but, besides the game of chess, it was a good opportunity for him to talk me out of being an irresponsible gambler, while we were playing chess I am more susceptible to suggestions and on the many times that we've played he had a good influence on how I become a better gambler and of course a better chess player. The mind should have a substitute when you have the urge to gamble, and it is one of the outlets, there are other outlets like taking more work so you'll have no time to gamble date a girl, or engage in physical sports, or anything that can stimulate the mind to replace the urge to gamble.
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January 31, 2024, 03:47:25 PM |
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The game is also a game of emotion,most persons put their mind on the games they've already played,but that's not it,every game played should be counted as a waste of money,because you don't know wther the game will play,or it wont.,therefore,setting a mind already that the money is lost will keep you at peace when the money eventually goes,and when you win,it will be an added boost to your financial power.
If gambling is approached this way, it can control the regrets and pains that come from losing. Most times, anger stems not because we lost but because we have planned on the winning yet to come and when it doesn`t come, it gets to us so badly that self-control becomes a problem. From personal experience, whenever I place a bet and don`t monitor the success of the game, I am not affected by the outcome but times when I have to monitor the games, I get pained when it doesn`t play because when I monitor the progress of the game, I unconsciously place high hopes on the game. Oftentimes, my mood changes and I am forced to either rebook the game or place another bet immediately. This is not a good way of gambling. When I realised that gambling this way could lead me into addiction, I started working on my mindset to know that any money I have decided to use for betting is not coming back because it is not an investment. With this mindset, I have been able to control my stake and this has helped me a lot and prevented me from compulsive and revenge gambling.
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January 31, 2024, 03:59:41 PM |
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Searching about the negative effects of gambling is an important thing for gamblers to do, because they can understand the impact of their gambling, and it also includes how they need to manage their gambling responsibly and not excessively which might affect their finances. Gamblers must understand their budget and limits, because knowing these things will also help gamblers to gamble more carefully and increase the enjoyment of their gambling. because people who gamble without a plan and knowledge will end up gambling irresponsibly and that might lead them to the stage of addiction, like this man.
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January 31, 2024, 04:14:11 PM |
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If a person cannot gain money from gambling, I believe he should avoid it. Gambling is a risky game, therefore when we decide to participate, we should be aware of our limitations. When a person loses money in gambling, it drives his addiction to cover his losses; the more losses, the greater the need to gamble; as a result, instead of losing a little amount of money, they lose more. Gambling, like trading, requires discipline because if you can't control yourself, you'll make a stupid judgment, increasing your chances of losing even more money.
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January 31, 2024, 04:32:08 PM |
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
Sometimes I wonder how people who earn money at the end of the day devote most of their time and money in gambling though I know that the reasons why some gamblers ain't contented with their income is because they want to make it big and maybe since the OP said the friend does a very hard job before he earns money thereby he might also be looking forward to make it through gambling and leave the hard work he's doing because normally, no matter the amount you're earning from a very severe hard work, you can't always be comfortable with that job but however, focusing all his energy on gambling in other to win and possibly discard the hard job may lead him to more failure. Moreover, since he puts in more energy in his job before he earns, he shouldn't have been that careless to waste all his hard earned money on gambling just simply because he wishes to win and the winning isn't even coming forth but he should be grateful that he even got a job if not people of this nature that's always die hard about gambling mostly results to borrowing money in other to meet their gambling target but since he have a job I think he would only gamble with his own money so since the OP have advised him but yet no avail, he rather leave him and see how the rest of his life would become if his continues in his gambling addiction considering the stress and nature of his job so i believe one day he would be the one to advice himself.
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January 31, 2024, 04:41:55 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
Even if you help him by holding his money but if he cant control himself, he will find other money for gambling, as simple as that. What he needs now is a professional help such as psychologist or someone to have a deep talk that can change his mindset. You have done what you can for him to avoid the worst case but if he is not listening to your suggestion, just let him go with what he wants. Sooner or later, once he realizes that what he does is wrong, he will regret to ignore your advices.
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January 31, 2024, 05:09:42 PM |
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There are so many person who just enter into gambling without proper research of what the game looks like,they don't know that gambling is like trading for those who know what trading is all about.It is a game of risk,and only those who have the mind and are ready to use their spare money to take the risk,are people who can win.
This is wrong on the part of the gambler if they think that they can come and gamble without getting the basic know how of gambling. The more important thing is that they should gamble after knowing about gambling and how to gamble following the basic golden rules like money management. The game is also a game of emotion,most persons put their mind on the games they've already played,but that's not it,every game played should be counted as a waste of money,because you don't know wther the game will play,or it wont.,therefore,setting a mind already that the money is lost will keep you at peace when the money eventually goes,and when you win,it will be an added boost to your financial power.
Money is important to everyone and anyone who gambles should know how much he can risk and how much he can lose in gambling. Sometimes i think that gamblers are the ones who are mostly risk takers as they gamble without any thinking of the situation as to what will happen if they lose in gambling and eventually may get in an awkward situation where they may not have left money for their day to day expenses. Some may even take loans to get their expenses done. Therefore it is better to get some research about gambling so these mishaps to not happen after gambling.
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January 31, 2024, 05:17:43 PM |
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Only a novice or an immature gambler will go ahead doing anything that involves gambling without making research first about it, even if we are experience in it, we need to make the first attempt on research in other to get the updates about the gambling we are making bets on a d how we could achieve the highest performance in it through the informations we have gathered.
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January 31, 2024, 05:56:15 PM |
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Hello coin-investor, was chess game responsible for removing the irresistible gambling urge in you, how long was it until you were able to think clearly, as stated in your response. Board games as chess have some control over the brain, it enables us to think beyond the actions of the opponent. Thereby helping the person to take for few minutes, control of his thoughts. First time reading this, but chess game looks like a nice substitute for any other game that could remove addiction in a gambler's life. What matters is the conversations with the gambling addict. He'd need to understand the interesting aspect of playing such games as chess, and how it could uplift his thinking and take him miles away from gambling compulsively. However, the reactions may differ from one player to another, but it's indeed a great idea to divest the focus of the addict of gambling to chess.
Hello, Accardo Yeah I'd like to thank my friend for introducing me to the board game chess but, besides the game of chess, it was a good opportunity for him to talk me out of being an irresponsible gambler, while we were playing chess I am more susceptible to suggestions and on the many times that we've played he had a good influence on how I become a better gambler and of course a better chess player. The mind should have a substitute when you have the urge to gamble, and it is one of the outlets, there are other outlets like taking more work so you'll have no time to gamble date a girl, or engage in physical sports, or anything that can stimulate the mind to replace the urge to gamble. Your friend played a good role of not just a great friend, but a therapist. The need of sharing the trouble with some close friends is quite a better method of escaping addiction. I mean, you wouldn't have succeeded alone, and such idea as playing chess wouldn't have been anything near to your horizon. The other methods of dealing with addiction other than what you've added above could include spending time with old friends, who stay far from our state or locality. I'm beginning to notice that humans tend to change alongside with their new location. When in a new place, I don't immediately participate in some activities like in my locality, due to the nature of the place and people around me. It'll take some time before feeling the urge or comfortably doing such things. Hence, it's safe to say that the few days or months the person doesn't engage in gambling, during his traveling period, could help him deal with addiction. At least it'll revive his thoughts on what he used to do while in his house, and let him make rules on the habit, and how he'll be gambling.
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January 31, 2024, 05:57:28 PM |
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Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
Did he offer you the option of helping him save his money? If he did that then his problem might be that he cannot save his funds. Maybe he doesn't have a bank account where he saves the money he earns. His challenge might be because he always has cash at hand, he is always moved to spend the money on gambling. Some people cannot control expenses if they have easy access to funds or have cash at hand. I will suggest you confirm if that is what his problem is because so many people suffer from careless spending because of easy access. It will not be a good idea to help him keep his money because there could be some financial misunderstanding. I will suggest you advise him to open a bank account where he could save his money and there could also be a standing order that restricts him from excess withdrawal.
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January 31, 2024, 06:12:08 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
That's the way such gamblers always think, most of them think that they can make x3 or x5 of what they earning from gambling and that's what drives them to put all their interest and time into finding that big win that will make them happy but at the long run of things it's practically just stupidness and they only know when the whole issue has turn negative red for them and by that I mean being stagnant with the feeling of progression.
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January 31, 2024, 08:57:32 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
The story is very touching because the victim, who is addicted to gambling, is working hard to earn some money, but due to his addiction, he ends up using all of it to gamble. This is a very critical stage of addiction, and it will be very hard for him to stop. If you really want to help him, then you have to act fast; if not, you will end up losing him because he is killing himself gradually, but no one knows. There are some solutions that I can recommend that will be listed below.1. First of all, you should start helping him by keeping or helping him save half of what he earns and using the rest for gambling. That shows that you are trying to help him. Create a budget for himself. You mentioned his age. Yes, he is an adult, and he has to know his own responsibilities, but he fails to do that due to issues like addiction. To me, you are the first option to help him. 2. You should give him a purpose for living, like an idea to create a business or build a house, or ask him what he would like to own so that he will start saving for that as well, and with the use of a budget, all those things will definitely be put in place. 3. Advise him to save money for his emergencies and health care. All this that I have mentioned should be deducted from the amount that he is going to use for gambling, while you will still keep half of his payment for him. With that, you will find out that the money he will be using for gambling will be very small, and from there, he will start feeling discouraged and leave gambling forever, but you need to have patience with him because you might fight trying to follow all this process because it is very hard to apply.
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January 31, 2024, 08:59:27 PM |
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.
He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.
He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?
If you have given your advise but still he wont listen then better move on and just let him be on what are the things that he's been doing. Yes, its really that pitiful on whats currently happening into him considering that he is your friend and you are aware that he's addicted to gambling on which you could already project on where it would be going but since he had neglect or ignore out such advise then dont feel sorry if he would really be ending up miserable. Most of the time on which a certain individual would really be just that too confident on the time that they are seeing that they are capable on earning money then they wont be minding that they would be busting all of it on the same day on which they are really that confident that they could really be able to earn it out right away and just doing some work. On the time that they would lose their work? then what would happen? It would be just that common sense but they havent realized it that yet.
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That's the way such gamblers always think, most of them think that they can make x3 or x5 of what they earning from gambling and that's what drives them to put all their interest and time into finding that big win that will make them happy but at the long run of things it's practically just stupidness and they only know when the whole issue has turn negative red for them and by that I mean being stagnant with the feeling of progression.
That's just their wishful thinking, producing x3, x5 or even x100 because they always imagine victory no matter how many losses they will experience. But when they have a big win, they will always be proud and forget that it is time to go out. But for gamblers who don't have any planing, they will continue to play with all those winnings. Until finally the profit is lost and the initial capital also disappears. Of course this makes them stressed, it is an act of stupidity that cannot be contained because they do not have a strategy.
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