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February 25, 2024, 02:52:04 PM
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Gambling addiction is not just about losing their minds, it even seems like they are losing their self-consciousness. In fact they do it consciously but are not affected at all, meaning that as long as they can enjoy it, they will continue like that because gambling is a shortcut for them to be successful instantly, they don't have a problem though. spend a lot but the expenditure is in the hope of winning more than the total loss later, and yes this can indeed destroy their life gradually because the more they spend money the more they will lose. And I am sure that even if they win it will not cover the losses they have experienced so far However, if he doesn't win, he could become stressed because he thinks too much about his gambling.

People who are addicted to gambling and have no intention of stopping will not be able to stop doing it, but if they can have the intention to stop then the signs will be visible where the family will help to heal and they will realize that they are truly addicted, not like before where they might not accept it. with the treatment of other people in advising him, so if he is aware of it he can accept help from other people to overcome his gambling addiction.
Gambling addiction mean losing their minds and can't think clear about what they do because they only knows one thing that will become their prioritize so they don't do the other things. They feels comfortable playing gambling and don't want to stop gambling even if they already loss much money. They will return to gambling and continue their gambling activity because they think that is what they should do. It's dangerous for them because they don't know how to stop their habits playing gambling and if no one know about their gambling activity, they will lose much money and will not have a chance to quit gambling. They will get deeper in gambling without realize that actually they have a serious problems that needs to resolved. But without having a clear minds, they will not realize that and will still playing gambling.

Those addicted will not stops playing gambling even for a while and sometimes I am curious where they got their money to continue playing gambling. It needs help from their family to make them aware from their bad habits so they can realize that they really needs to quit gambling. It needs admitted from the addicts so their family can start to help him and cure his addiction. If not, he will only stay in the gambling without knowing when he will realize everything.
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March 29, 2024, 10:28:24 AM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?

No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.

Is there anyway to help this person? I have given some advice to start using small percentage of the whole salary and safe the rest but still couldn't, and I don't want to help him to hold his money for him, he is over 28 years old, not a underage.

He have gotten used to this way because he started gambling all by himself and he won some money but end up even fuelling his addiction. What is next? Any tip?

It may be tough to persuade your buddy to seek therapy, but it is worth a try. If they are receptive to the concept, you may offer to assist them in finding a counsellor or therapist who specializes in gambling addiction. You might also suggest they join a support group such as Gamblers Anonymous. These groups can offer a secure, judgment-free environment for people to share their stories and receive support from others who understand what they're going through.

It's also crucial to remember to look for oneself in this scenario. It may be stressful and tiring to see someone close to you suffer with addiction. Make sure you're looking after your own emotional and physical health, and that you're creating limits around how much you're willing to help your friend.
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March 29, 2024, 10:40:17 AM
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In response to the op, it is actually a very shameful thing for someone to work hard for good 30 days, for the peanuts they pay this days as a salary, and end up wasting it all on gambling, should I say this is the highest level of stupidity or what? But the man can't be blamed, we can only blame his addiction to gambling, but this is only if gambling addiction was a person, or a human being, but as long as it's not, then we are solely responsible for every of our actions, whether the result have positive outcome for and on us, or negative outcome.

Researching is very important for those who wishes or wants to start gambling, for I believe that, if people atleast, spent some time to research on the effect of being a gambling addict, and reading stories of those who have been addicted to gambling and how their life turned out, or how they ended, then we will possibly have less number of people who are addicted to gambling, for every one will be extra careful and conscious of their gambling activities, in other not to over gamble, which could lead to addiction..

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March 29, 2024, 12:56:26 PM
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In response to the op, it is actually a very shameful thing for someone to work hard for good 30 days, for the peanuts they pay this days as a salary, and end up wasting it all on gambling, should I say this is the highest level of stupidity or what? But the man can't be blamed, we can only blame his addiction to gambling, but this is only if gambling addiction was a person, or a human being, but as long as it's not, then we are solely responsible for every of our actions, whether the result have positive outcome for and on us, or negative outcome.

Researching is very important for those who wishes or wants to start gambling, for I believe that, if people atleast, spent some time to research on the effect of being a gambling addict, and reading stories of those who have been addicted to gambling and how their life turned out, or how they ended, then we will possibly have less number of people who are addicted to gambling, for every one will be extra careful and conscious of their gambling activities, in other not to over gamble, which could lead to addiction..
Symptoms include more than gambling. We must investigate the psychology. Even the wisest can fall for these traps. No one tells you that. Let's start with empathy. Blaming others is easy, but what motivates them? We get true answers there.

Next, solutions. Education - not boring education. Make it real, highlight the risks and repercussions of bad gambling. Share your difficult stories. They hit home like numbers never will. Discuss support systems - we must help people in need. Most importantly, provide choices. Fit ones. Activities that give actual, lasting success.

Acountability is crucial. We all set high standards for ourselves and must assist others do so. Living in control means more than avoiding gambling. Success comes from daily choices, not happenstance.

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March 29, 2024, 01:09:58 PM
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In response to the op, it is actually a very shameful thing for someone to work hard for good 30 days, for the peanuts they pay this days as a salary, and end up wasting it all on gambling, should I say this is the highest level of stupidity or what? But the man can't be blamed, we can only blame his addiction to gambling, but this is only if gambling addiction was a person, or a human being, but as long as it's not, then we are solely responsible for every of our actions, whether the result have positive outcome for and on us, or negative outcome.

Researching is very important for those who wishes or wants to start gambling, for I believe that, if people atleast, spent some time to research on the effect of being a gambling addict, and reading stories of those who have been addicted to gambling and how their life turned out, or how they ended, then we will possibly have less number of people who are addicted to gambling, for every one will be extra careful and conscious of their gambling activities, in other not to over gamble, which could lead to addiction..
In fact, I don’t even understand how it’s possible to spend an entire salary on gambling, a person simply needs something to pay bills, and if he spends his entire salary on gambling, what will he eat? You need to plan your budget correctly, after receiving your salary you need to calculate your necessary expenses, see how much is left after that, set aside part of this money, and only a very small percentage of this amount can be allocated to gambling, this will be reasonable budget management, which will save a person from nonsense.

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March 29, 2024, 01:16:49 PM
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Before starting gambling, it's essential to conduct thorough research to understand the games, odds, and potential risks involved. This can help make more informed decisions and promote responsible gambling behaviour.
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March 29, 2024, 01:41:59 PM
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In response to the op, it is actually a very shameful thing for someone to work hard for good 30 days, for the peanuts they pay this days as a salary, and end up wasting it all on gambling, should I say this is the highest level of stupidity or what? But the man can't be blamed, we can only blame his addiction to gambling, but this is only if gambling addiction was a person, or a human being, but as long as it's not, then we are solely responsible for every of our actions, whether the result have positive outcome for and on us, or negative outcome.

Researching is very important for those who wishes or wants to start gambling, for I believe that, if people atleast, spent some time to research on the effect of being a gambling addict, and reading stories of those who have been addicted to gambling and how their life turned out, or how they ended, then we will possibly have less number of people who are addicted to gambling, for every one will be extra careful and conscious of their gambling activities, in other not to over gamble, which could lead to addiction..
In fact, I don’t even understand how it’s possible to spend an entire salary on gambling, a person simply needs something to pay bills, and if he spends his entire salary on gambling, what will he eat? You need to plan your budget correctly, after receiving your salary you need to calculate your necessary expenses, see how much is left after that, set aside part of this money, and only a very small percentage of this amount can be allocated to gambling, this will be reasonable budget management, which will save a person from nonsense.

This is why it is always recommended to have a plan in gambling such as putting limits on the budget and time of involvement, because as we know that gambling has something that can make us addicted and also that can make us fall into unconsciousness and of course putting all the salary just to gamble is a very stupid mindset where they are more concerned with gambling which is full of uncertainty than their own lives.

In any case, management is always something that is very important and needed especially when it comes to finances which as you said that it is best that we should prioritize the necessities of life such as preparing and buying all the necessities of life for a certain period of time such as to cover the needs of life in the next month and also identify other things because maybe you still need something like buying clothes or paying bills, and after that if for example you still have some money that is not used then obviously you are then allowed to bet the money on gambling, but still do not put too large an amount or that means it is better to put an amount that you can afford to be responsible for if you end up losing, the point is that we must be able to be rational and wise in every decision, prioritize our lives.

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March 29, 2024, 03:01:32 PM
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In fact, I don’t even understand how it’s possible to spend an entire salary on gambling, a person simply needs something to pay bills, and if he spends his entire salary on gambling, what will he eat? You need to plan your budget correctly, after receiving your salary you need to calculate your necessary expenses, see how much is left after that, set aside part of this money, and only a very small percentage of this amount can be allocated to gambling, this will be reasonable budget management, which will save a person from nonsense.

In my opinion, people who spend their salaries only on gambling may have too much faith in gambling that they can get big wins that can change their economic situation drastically, so they dare to have big hopes and put aside their obvious basic needs that must be paid attention to. as you said, paying bills or providing food for their survival is no longer a priority when they have completely believed in gambling which will give them victory. and I think people like that seem to have problems with their thinking because they dare to risk their survival for things that are not certain or clear that will produce positive results in the future.

If they spend their salary just on gambling and don't pay attention to their needs that need to be taken care of then what will happen is the destruction of their lives. We should be able to manage our finances well, as you said, prioritizing the needs for survival and when there is money left over, then it can be used for things that are not considered necessary, such as doing habits that are said to be hobbies, such as perhaps gambling or fishing or others.

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In fact, I don’t even understand how it’s possible to spend an entire salary on gambling, a person simply needs something to pay bills, and if he spends his entire salary on gambling, what will he eat? You need to plan your budget correctly, after receiving your salary you need to calculate your necessary expenses, see how much is left after that, set aside part of this money, and only a very small percentage of this amount can be allocated to gambling, this will be reasonable budget management, which will save a person from nonsense.

In my opinion, people who spend their salaries only on gambling may have too much faith in gambling that they can get big wins that can change their economic situation drastically, so they dare to have big hopes and put aside their obvious basic needs that must be paid attention to. as you said, paying bills or providing food for their survival is no longer a priority when they have completely believed in gambling which will give them victory. and I think people like that seem to have problems with their thinking because they dare to risk their survival for things that are not certain or clear that will produce positive results in the future.

If they spend their salary just on gambling and don't pay attention to their needs that need to be taken care of then what will happen is the destruction of their lives. We should be able to manage our finances well, as you said, prioritizing the needs for survival and when there is money left over, then it can be used for things that are not considered necessary, such as doing habits that are said to be hobbies, such as perhaps gambling or fishing or others.

when it reaches the point that a person has become like that, it means that he has experienced a big win in gambling, because it is unlikely that a person can change their mind and spend their entire salary on gambling, maybe they see that gambling can always give the money they can't earn from working, but that's wrong because we know what can happen if you let yourself become that kind of gambler
.If they allow themselves to continue such work, their life  will really be ruined, it is even possible that you will not be able to report properly on your work because there is a good chance that your attention will be focused on gambling, but what will happen if you don't have a job? meaning you don't have any money for gambling because the money you earn from work depends only on gambling. Let's think carefully about what will help our life not what will destroy it, there are many who aspire to have a good life and job, let's not train them when an opportunity comes.



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March 30, 2024, 06:29:55 AM
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The person is working hard and spend the money he earned on gambling and he is not moving forward but stagnant like someone that has no job. That is enough to be a good lesson for him. If you still see that he continues to gamble, let him know that the ending will not still favour him. He will be regretting and thinking that he can still make money from gambling thinking that his strategies might work, tell him not to be deceiving him than not to gamble again until he has control over it. Gambling budget should not be more than 1 to 5% if his weekly income. If he is not gambling for fun, he should not be gambling is the best.
At first those who gamble usually do not gamble as an addiction, at first they gamble for fun, this gambling becomes their addiction one day and when they become addicted to gambling, they will continue to lose money. If they lose money once by gambling, they try to gamble a second time to get that money back and then keep losing money, causing them financial loss. That financial loss has to be borne by his family, so it is not right for anyone to gamble or lose power in such a fun way. Gambling is losing one cash due to gambling addiction and is not valuing his family so much his family is having problems with his self esteem so everyone should refrain from this kind of gambling so that they can be good with his family.

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March 30, 2024, 07:24:55 AM
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At first those who gamble usually do not gamble as an addiction, at first they gamble for fun, this gambling becomes their addiction one day and when they become addicted to gambling, they will continue to lose money. If they lose money once by gambling, they try to gamble a second time to get that money back and then keep losing money, causing them financial loss. That financial loss has to be borne by his family, so it is not right for anyone to gamble or lose power in such a fun way. Gambling is losing one cash due to gambling addiction and is not valuing his family so much his family is having problems with his self esteem so everyone should refrain from this kind of gambling so that they can be good with his family.
Those who initially gambled just had fun gambling. But after they gamble for some time, they become increasingly fond of gambling and that is what makes them addicted to gambling. Those who cannot control themselves will become increasingly addicted to gambling.

Those who gamble do not research gambling. They just gamble straight away and don't think much about the consequences or impacts. What they wanted at that time was to be able to experience the many gambling games that made them feel pleasure.

This makes many of them addicted to gambling and many do not even realize that they have become addicted to gambling. If they are still like that, they will become more and more immersed in gambling and will become more and more addicted to gambling.

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That's really needed; don't just put money in right away, because maybe later it turns out that gambling is not legal when you put money in to gamble and play. That's why you always need to do your own research.

So that we can give value to the money we gamble, although we gamblers have different reasons why we play gambling. Because when we do this, we are only showing that we are responsible gamblers.



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I liked the idea of the author of the topic that if you work, earn and play, but you have no progress, then you are no different from a person who has no income. Of course this is true. However, I would caution against hasty conclusions. Besides money, there is also such a thing as competence. And I believe that competence is probably much more important than money itself. If you have money but do not have the competence to save and increase it, then you will lose this money. And vice versa: if you don’t have money, but have competence, then money will appear. A person is a gambler, but at the same time gains experience. Over time, he will understand what needs to be done in order for the games to generate income, or he will understand that he should not do this. But such training often takes a long time.
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Before starting gambling, it's essential to conduct thorough research to understand the games, odds, and potential risks involved. This can help make more informed decisions and promote responsible gambling behaviour.

Carrying out research on a specific game or match helps a gambler to make the right decisions, but the important aspect is looking into gambling generally. Players are expected to figure out that gambling isn't some sort of playground where people make a one-time payment and enjoy the fun for as long as they want. Gambling requires regular wagering force for a player to enjoy the game. However, endangering our finances for the sake of gambling also is a wrong move. That's not a good gambling habit. Players should be careful regarding how they spend money, gambling.

The addict in the story isn't doing the right thing, he's only bothered about how to better his gambling lifestyle. And make a huge amount of money. Although he works hard in his business, gambling doesn't affect his productivity, but taking things gradually is quite important. He works a whole day and consumes most of his energy for the purpose of gambling alone. Life shouldn't be lived partly; we must enjoy it as a whole. Gambling is not the only fun activity on earth. Players need to find out other events that could make them happy and help in boosting their communication skills. So, while the research should be on responsible gambling, the gambler also needs to look out for places to hang out with friends after having enough fun in gambling.

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March 30, 2024, 09:26:11 AM
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That's really needed; don't just put money in right away, because maybe later it turns out that gambling is not legal when you put money in to gamble and play. That's why you always need to do your own research.

So that we can give value to the money we gamble, although we gamblers have different reasons why we play gambling. Because when we do this, we are only showing that we are responsible gamblers.
That's the obvious thing that you should do, I mean in any aspect of your life, you should do research on things before you do something about it so you don't fuck it up, ignorance may be a bliss but it shouldn't become your personality, that's just a sad thing if that's the case. A lot of things would've been resolved easily or mistakes prevented if our ignorance isn't there to hinder us. Gamblers would also be more happier with their life if they've done their research on the games before trying that gambling game that they have no clue how it works.

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March 30, 2024, 09:49:40 AM
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That's the obvious thing that you should do, I mean in any aspect of your life, you should do research on things before you do something about it so you don't fuck it up, ignorance may be a bliss but it shouldn't become your personality, that's just a sad thing if that's the case. A lot of things would've been resolved easily or mistakes prevented if our ignorance isn't there to hinder us. Gamblers would also be more happier with their life if they've done their research on the games before trying that gambling game that they have no clue how it works.
It's true, when we are going to do something, we hope to consider it first so that the results are not disappointing. What you said is true, this is not only in gambling but in any aspect of life, this needs to be paid attention to, especially if the thing you are doing is related to With money, of course we have to do our best, including considering the actions we will take. because of course things related to money definitely want to end in profit, not loss. Therefore, we should be able to consider what we will do instead of getting disappointing results.
Losses or mistakes can actually still be prevented if we consider everything well, but when it comes to gambling, many people don't consider their actions, so it disappoints them and also makes them emotional about what happens as a result of actions they don't consider. As much as possible we have to do our best, because it is impossible for anyone to want bad results, of course everyone wants positive results with what they do, especially things that involve money or profits.

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March 30, 2024, 10:41:13 AM
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It's good to have a source of income at first before you start gambling but I want to talk about this even more, do you know that even with your source of income you might be at one spot and not move forward?
Many people are at this level, no progress even when they are consistent in making resources available for gambling. Having a source of income is just the first part in preparing for gambling, one of the most important requirement though. This stage is supposed to be followed by finding out the type of gambles that suit ones personality, I mean the type of gambling that one can participate in that present better opportunity to win and make progress. Many gamblers do not do this, rather they jump from one gamble to the other, today they play dice, tomorrow they are on slots and next day another. They keep jumping from one gamble to the other upon the slightest loss without trying to master one. 

No progression means you are no different from someone who have no source of income, I know someone who work so hard, I mean the hard jobs, that I can't even do, but at the end of the month when he gets paid he always waste everything on gambling, as if something told him that gambling is the way in this world for him.

He can't stop this, he can't help it, he is addicted to this way, I knew this after he start going around asking for things that he should be able to afford as a worker, he confessed that he lost money at first but the same thing kept happening for months and I find out that he is risking all his salary on gambling.
Like you already said, he is battling gambling addiction, and he can not stop it easily without making the right efforts to really stop either through counseling or just any means that works.


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March 30, 2024, 10:55:06 AM
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That's really needed; don't just put money in right away, because maybe later it turns out that gambling is not legal when you put money in to gamble and play. That's why you always need to do your own research.

So that we can give value to the money we gamble, although we gamblers have different reasons why we play gambling. Because when we do this, we are only showing that we are responsible gamblers.
We have to be able to see and confirm whether the site we are playing on is a trusted site or a fraudulent site, because there are so many fraudulent sites now that ultimately harm gamblers. We also have to make sure we know the terms and conditions that apply on the site, don't let us not know because we might lose money or even our account because we violate the terms and conditions they apply. Gamblers must be aware of things like this, lest they just gamble without paying attention to things that look simple, but in reality are very important.

Whatever it is, we have to be responsible with the gambling we do, don't let us do something we shouldn't do, such as chasing losses or hoping to win large amounts, because that will get us into trouble later. We have to know what is the basis for our gambling, if our initial goal is wrong then it is possible that we will also get things we don't want to get in the future.

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March 30, 2024, 02:18:52 PM
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In my opinion, people who spend their salaries only on gambling may have too much faith in gambling that they can get big wins that can change their economic situation drastically, so they dare to have big hopes and put aside their obvious basic needs that must be paid attention to. as you said, paying bills or providing food for their survival is no longer a priority when they have completely believed in gambling which will give them victory. and I think people like that seem to have problems with their thinking because they dare to risk their survival for things that are not certain or clear that will produce positive results in the future.

If they spend their salary just on gambling and don't pay attention to their needs that need to be taken care of then what will happen is the destruction of their lives. We should be able to manage our finances well, as you said, prioritizing the needs for survival and when there is money left over, then it can be used for things that are not considered necessary, such as doing habits that are said to be hobbies, such as perhaps gambling or fishing or others.

when it reaches the point that a person has become like that, it means that he has experienced a big win in gambling, because it is unlikely that a person can change their mind and spend their entire salary on gambling, maybe they see that gambling can always give the money they can't earn from working, but that's wrong because we know what can happen if you let yourself become that kind of gambler
.If they allow themselves to continue such work, their life  will really be ruined, it is even possible that you will not be able to report properly on your work because there is a good chance that your attention will be focused on gambling, but what will happen if you don't have a job? meaning you don't have any money for gambling because the money you earn from work depends only on gambling. Let's think carefully about what will help our life not what will destroy it, there are many who aspire to have a good life and job, let's not train them when an opportunity comes.

It is true, the victory obtained in gambling can make us lulled so that it makes us continue gambling. Even with repeated defeats, it will not be able to stop gambling. When getting a win at gambling it can clearly make us addicted to continuing to gamble again. It is possible that when this happens it can make us spend a lot of money to return to pursuing gambling wins. The wrong thinking is indeed when assuming gambling can provide victory or money with certainty, such thinking will only trap us in a more detrimental cycle.

Indeed, gambling can divert our focus, when we gamble during working hours, for example, the possibility that will happen is that we will only focus on the gambling that is done. Especially if the gambling that is done is giving a win or the game is good then it can make us stay longer in gambling. What must be remembered is that the impact of gambling is very bad, so before gambling we must be able to think about the things that will happen in the future if we make a mistake. If you really want to gamble, hopefully we are ready for everything that will happen.

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It is true, the victory obtained in gambling can make us lulled so that it makes us continue gambling. Even with repeated defeats, it will not be able to stop gambling. When getting a win at gambling it can clearly make us addicted to continuing to gamble again. It is possible that when this happens it can make us spend a lot of money to return to pursuing gambling wins. The wrong thinking is indeed when assuming gambling can provide victory or money with certainty, such thinking will only trap us in a more detrimental cycle.

Indeed, gambling can divert our focus, when we gamble during working hours, for example, the possibility that will happen is that we will only focus on the gambling that is done. Especially if the gambling that is done is giving a win or the game is good then it can make us stay longer in gambling. What must be remembered is that the impact of gambling is very bad, so before gambling we must be able to think about the things that will happen in the future if we make a mistake. If you really want to gamble, hopefully we are ready for everything that will happen.

I agree with you when you say that when you play and win you want to repeat the feat, I think it is something very natural in any human being, we can not always decipher the way to play and win in a casino, sometimes it is just the luck factor that left us the game at that time , for now Things are much clearer that a person like this does not have that risk of losing often and try to recover, In this aspect, one of the things to do when playing is to try to see how you can play without losing money and making a more intelligent game, and what I have discovered so far is to imitate the money to play, just play with the money willing to lose and that's it, accepting the Results whatever they are, is the best I can say, because it is logical and almost instinctive that we always Want to win.

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