Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial

[franky1]

Craig Wright told his audience at the Oxford Union, that if he is lying regarding Satoshi Clam, then the Court can send him to  Jail in 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpwuJw7cxY

funny to see J.nyugen ..
when CSW first bought bitcoin in 2013 it was nguyen that became CSW's first sponsor and partner.. nguyen was involved with stealing the W&K brand from the klieman family a year after of learning of D.kliemans death and then dreaming up "tulip" in 2014+

but i have not read/heard much about nguyen involved in CSW stuff 2020+

as for CSW thoughts on lying in court, he thought that he is in USA where SLAPP civil cases never really escalate/involve prison if perverting the court system(in states that allow SLAPP cases). which is why he was confident in saying "send me to prison" by him (wrongly) thinking prison time is not an option in civil cases..

however in the UK we do treat it more serious if the court system is abused by scammers, and yes even in civil cases in the uk they can lead to charges which end up as criminal justice aka prison
(people have gone (wrongly and rightfully) to prison due to judgement of civil cases (notably recently the post office post masters))

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as for the post judgement.. yes perjury for lies said in court..(but could end up as just a fine, but seriousness points to possible prison time) but also a separate investigation of the underlying fraud for years, should happen through the crown prosecution service(definitely criminal case related and definitely criminal prison time)
funny part is by CSW blaming business partners for the lies/falsifies. he is actually admitting it was a fraud involving multiple people he partnered with, which raises the severity of the fraud(puts him in prison for longer)

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[headingnorth]

The only way this delusional clown could possibly win this case is if he bribed the judge to rule in his favor. He belongs in prison or a mental institution.

[nutildah]

The only way this delusional clown could possibly win this case is if he bribed the judge to rule in his favor. He belongs in prison or a mental institution.

I will say that for whatever reason, his lawyers always manage to be aware of some kind of technicality that prevents such a thing or close to it from ever happening. They know about it before going into trial, so if things goes south, they can just use it to make sure he doesn't actually serve time.

As far as the money he owes continuing to pile up, it will just pile up indefinitely; nobody will ever be recredited and they won't have to be, because' he'll be completely broke.

[headingnorth]

The only way this delusional clown could possibly win this case is if he bribed the judge to rule in his favor. He belongs in prison or a mental institution.

I will say that for whatever reason, his lawyers always manage to be aware of some kind of technicality that prevents such a thing or close to it from ever happening. They know about it before going into trial, so if things goes south, they can just use it to make sure he doesn't actually serve time.

As far as the money he owes continuing to pile up, it will just pile up indefinitely; nobody will ever be recredited and they won't have to be, because' he'll be completely broke.

CW is the Donald Trump of Australia. His deluded followers keep giving him money which is apparently how he is able to keep his circus act going.

But perhaps he is running low on funds to pay his large legal costs which might explain how several of his own lawyers have turned on him and accused him of fraud.

In response Wright says that his own lawyers and witnesses are incompetent and/or lying. Pure comedy!  

  

[NotATether]

CW is the Donald Trump of Australia. His deluded followers keep giving him money which is apparently how he is able to keep his circus act going.

But perhaps he is running low on funds to pay his large legal costs which might explain how several of his own lawyers have turned on him and accused him of fraud.

In response Wright says that his own lawyers and witnesses are incompetent and/or lying. Pure comedy!

Surprise Trump regularly burns bridges with his lawyers too. But anyway....

Too bad this CS Fraud cannot just run for president to make his legal and financial troubles go away . Looks like he's thinking he can somehow break cryptography and just take Satoshi's bitcoins to pay off all his debts if he can just convince the court that he's Satoshi.

Not even a Dyson sphere can help a deluded man.

[headingnorth]

Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?  

[franky1]

Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?  

in actual fact, that is CSW's ultimate hope

he doesnt care about winning or losing court cases because CSW .WAS being paid for these court cases, not paying them himself. so it was a free lunch to turn up to court as a hobby for him.. his ultimate strategy is not to get rich from crypto ownership, but from movie deals.. as thats what he promised the guys paying for his court case hobby

so lets not give him any media time, lets not satisfy his fame and wealth plans.. let his story die into oblivion while hoping he sits in jail (should copa press for charges against him criminally)

[hilariousetc]

Day 21

More going over the summary arguments yesterday. One of my personal highlights was COPA's Hough commenting something along the lines of not to commit degree snobbery, but Craig's qualifications were of mediocre grade, from unprestigious universities, and his PHD thesis has been found to have included plagiarised content. Burn  . Bringing up Craig's blank expression during the unsigned integers debacle was also enjoyable: https://twitter.com/digitalnaut/status/1767830627615715382

Craig's council also took the stand to make their closing arguments, but the best they had was why hasn't the real Satoshi made an appearance to shoot Craig's accusations down. I mean, what sort of bullshit is that. They really don't have much here apart from Craig is smart and has patents and there's currently no better candidate blah blah blah. If Craig doesn't end up with perjury charges this trial will have been a waste. Craig's council has been pleading today that even if Craig loses it will be against his human rights to be prohibited from claiming to be Satoshi. Personally, I hope he his barred from doing so and maybe his "human rights" case should be left up to a higher court.

Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?  

I don't think a show based purely on this trial would be very entertaining, but I do think a film or maybe documentary about the whole Faketoshi saga would be. Maybe we need some sort of conclusion here though to make for a good ending. Andrew O’Hagan's The Satoshi Affair where Craig fled Australia was particularly thrilling reading for me and would certainly make a great part in a film or documentary: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v38/n13/andrew-o-hagan/the-satoshi-affair

[franky1]

?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)

heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto

i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.

so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..

[HmmMAA]

Judgment is out it seems , csw isn't satoshi . Congrats to the btc community . I was proven wrong and my judgment was poor as no evidence from csw was provided ( which i was expect to happen ) .

[BlackHatCoiner]

Netflix should seriously consider making a documentary about CW and his trial. I mean the comedy just writes itself and there is so much of it! Docu-comedy?

We should create a documentary about CSW in general, not for the recent court case. I mean, I totally hate him, but he's part of Bitcoin history. I can't wait until we gather all the forgeries in one place, I have just lost count.

Petition to call it "How many Wrongs make a Wright?".  (Not mine)

https://twitter.com/digitalnaut/status/1767830627615715382

Hahaha! It's been a while since I laughed that hard. 

- Do you know what's an unsigned integer?
- I do. It's not an integer with...
- With what?

Let's see if security expert Craig Wright can answer the 15th question and get the million dollars!

[hilariousetc]

Day 22

BREAKING NEWS

The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.

?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)

heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto

i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.

so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..

I can kind of see their argument from some sort of namby-pamby liberal stance, but the whole point of this trial is to prove Craig is a fraudster and should not be allowed to continue his fraud or his vexatious litigation against innocent people. Without it Craig is free to lie and claim to be someone he's not. I'm sure Craig will probably just take his case to some other country that will have him but I'm hoping his financial backers will now just pull the plug which should put an end to Craig's legal shenanigans, but hopefully he ends up in prison where he can't do any more damage to the bitcoin community.

[DaveF]

Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.

Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly.... 

-Dave

[franky1]

Day 22

BREAKING NEWS

The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month. The judge also announced that we will have to wait 20 days for the full report and for the conclusion of the trial. Given this judgement that should surely indicate that Craig has lied throughout the trial and surely we should be seeing a prosecution for contempt and perjury.

glad to see he has been told officially by a court of law that he is not what he says he is

lets hope that this sparks some actions against him
minimum: 72hour hold in a mental ward
followed by: charged with perjury
followed by: charged with forgery

also by knowing he has lost i hope his sponsors run.. i hope his council decline servicing him any further..
and thus not allow CSW to even fund any type of appeal to delay actions of criminal justice against him

?? his council say its his human right to make such claims.. ?? (facepalm)

heck even dorian cant just take over IP rights of bitcoin, and his name was dorian satoshi nakamoto

i too can change my name to elon musk.. and thats my human right... but its not then my human right to cause fraud to proclaim myself as THE elon musk that owns spaceX and twitter and tesla.

so yea his council should be barred from standing in court ever again.. even they should know the basics of law that define naming yourself a random name of S.N. vs claiming to be a specific S.N entity that created something that a idiot is trying to steal..

I can kind of see their argument from some sort of namby-pamby liberal stance, but the whole point of this trial is to prove Craig is a fraudster and should not be allowed to continue his fraud or his vexatious litigation against innocent people. Without it Craig is free to lie and claim to be someone he's not. I'm sure Craig will probably just take his case to some other country that will have him but I'm hoping his financial backers will now just pull the plug which should put an end to Craig's legal shenanigans, but hopefully he ends up in prison where he can't do any more damage to the bitcoin community.

people have the right to have their own feelings, and perceptions of themselves..  but not push a lie onto others..
if someone wants to abuse liberal stance of things like pronouns onto others.. EG if a obvious male is standing infront of me trying to proclaim to be female. he better have chopped and inverted his penis and grew breasts and then legally had his name changed and gender changed on all his official forms of identity before coming out as female.. where by during the transition period they call themselves trans, not female
then fine. but to still have all male attributes and not even bothered to do anything to actually transition. then ill call HIM out as mentally impaired and deluded and not play into his delusion

[Lucius]

This is really good news for everyone except CW and its sponsors (followers) who do not respect the courts and laws anyway and I have no doubt that they will continue with their lies in another court in another country. I don't know what the legal consequences are for CW considering that the verdict will be negative for him, but I hope that the judge will give him a fair scrubbing in his final verdict👨‍⚖️

If the judge ever publishes his BTC address, I'll pay him a big beer, he definitely deserves it🍺

[franky1]

also.. i wonder if this verdict now quashes C0bra's need to follow the older court order to not show white paper on bitcoin.org..
i hope COPA ask the judge to render the c0bra vs CSW case null and void

[OgNasty]

Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.

Also, should allow a lot of people who were scammed or harassed or otherwise forced to deal with the CSW crap to get some measure of relief, possibly.... 

-Dave

I think it could make a difference on the BSV chain too. Ultimately his goal was to convince people he was satoshi to get his community to let him unlock satoshi’s coins for himself. Now that he’s been proven to not be satoshi, I don’t think anyone will go along with his plan and use a chain reorganized to give him those coins. In other words, the jig is up. 

[franky1]

Good news.
Won't really stop people from falling for the BSV thing, but still helps those who were / are fighting against it.

I think it could make a difference on the BSV chain too. Ultimately his goal was to convince people he was satoshi to get his community to let him unlock satoshi’s coins for himself. Now that he’s been proven to not be satoshi, I don’t think anyone will go along with his plan and use a chain reorganized to give him those coins. In other words, the jig is up.  

i never even bothered to even look at BSV price ever, until today due to the court result

seems even their fan girls are reacting -10% at time of posting


sidenote:
bitcoin(btc) has a underlying mining support limit (based on 4cent electric+hardware cost(spread over 2 year life)@600exahash) of ~$25k
meaning bitcoin is market speculating at 3x of base value.. and rising


crapcoin(bsv) has a underlying mining support limit (based on 4cent electric+hardware cost@800petahash) of ~$32k
meaning crapcoin was market speculating this morning at at 4x of base value.. and dropping
i think their bubble is bursting


ok soo.. seems calvin ayres is still kissing CSW ass and staying obedient to BSV scam

To be clear.  Craig invented Bitcoin yesterday and he will still be the guy who invented Bitcoin tomorrow.  History does not change.  Bitcoin also does not change.  Also, Craig funded himself as he pointed out under oath.  This has no direct affect on me, I still invest in the best tech and for Enterprise blockchain this is still only BSV. Scaling matters.

seems people will never learn even when evidence is thrown at them about the scam and even when a judge slaps them in the face to wake them up

[shield132]

Day 22

BREAKING NEWS

The judge made a shock preliminary announcement that "due to overwhelming" evidence Craig Wright is not is not the author of the whitepaper, not the creator of bitcoin, does not own any IP of bitcoin, and is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

How many years, how many working hours, how much workforce and how many things were wasted just to receive a simply, easy and true answer officially - Craig Wright (Wrong) is not Satoshi Nakamoto. Was it really difficult to say that? He didn't have any proof, he was a total liar. People like him deserve punishment for this circus.

I had to double check when he made the announcement as I was not expecting that until the end of the month.

Out of nowhere, I visited cointelegraph.com to check if there was any interesting news about the recent bull run or what caused loss today and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that judge rules Craig Wright is not satoshi as the first and big news on the website.

Finally, can Cobra upload Bitcoin whitepaper for UK people? Or will he still be prohibited from it?

[franky1]

Finally, can Cobra upload Bitcoin whitepaper for UK people? Or will he still be prohibited from it?

not yet
though it was CSW that instigate the old case that defaulted as a CSW win due to c0bra not turning up to defend it..
its became a court judges demand(order) rather than a perceived owners demand/request

so its the courts that have to undo the order as the order comes from a judge, not CSW. its not as simple as CSW didnt have authority in the first place, its a case that its now proven he didnt so the court order should be withdrawn in-light of the new evidence that the previous case was done in error
...
if c0bra does put it up. he is not going to be waiting for CSW to get triggered to see if CSW creates a new court case to fight c0bra once again. instead its the judge will instantly see it as a breach of court order. which comes with penalties
..
ways to get it sorted is:
a. get judge mellor to undo the c0bra default verdict as part of this COPA v CSW case, whereby copa can make a request for any cases involving CSW previously to be undone

b. copa now start cases agaisnt CSW to undo old cases and get his (forged)patents revoked and many many past frauds fixed