Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more?

[l3pox]

~snip~
i like the copywriting idea (but appliable to all marketing and even to dating) that all you need is knowing how to "transform seconds in minutes"
this is exactly what they are doing, they hook you with free bets and maybe they even pay you knowing that they'll get much more in the future

I was mentioning services like currency conversion rates, stock exchange prices, etc.

They usually give you a delayed stream of data for free, because it's no longer relevant for right now.

This means that if you were able to predict those values, even 20 minutes, then you would have made bank.

interesting
makes me think on all that is needed in the backend to have an updated website to check this things
that's probably why bloomberg got so big
it's interesting to think too on everything that is needed for trading view to have up to date information

[Wakate]

The gambling is also includes of having a capitalist before begin, and that is why for those that didn’t have enough financial to support their gambling some are ending in poor, for me I cannot not be poor and still have interest on gambling where I can lost the amount that I will not even expect. To en honest the only peoples that enjoy the gambling are the rich ones, since they have already enough they will not cares about the risks that is involved.

Furthermore, why I say that the rich are those that risks any of amount they want, because they’re not like poor that need to hustle before they should get little amounts to use for gamblers so they will be scared to risks big amounts of money their in gambling.

you are right because everything is decided by the starting capital that is intended for the game. Here, as an example, simple mathematics, if a poor player has an initial bank of 5 dollars and a rich one of 100, then the difference between their capitals will be 20 times greater and, accordingly, the rich player can make more bets and has more chances to win.

I have seen gamblers using small fund to win a bigger profits which might not even be possible if we are not concentrate of and discipline to win with all experience out together. Gambling can be a little bit stressful when we are not making any winnings and it is very good for us to be prepared and make sure we make money for us ourselves if we really want to see people learning from us. What differentiate a poor gambler from the rich one is capital. A rich gambler would want to use bigger capital or bankroll to gambler taking few games and putting bigger amounts of money while a poor gambler would want to use his little amount to make huge profits from gambling.

[betswift]

~snip~
i like the copywriting idea (but appliable to all marketing and even to dating) that all you need is knowing how to "transform seconds in minutes"
this is exactly what they are doing, they hook you with free bets and maybe they even pay you knowing that they'll get much more in the future

I was mentioning services like currency conversion rates, stock exchange prices, etc.

They usually give you a delayed stream of data for free, because it's no longer relevant for right now.

This means that if you were able to predict those values, even 20 minutes, then you would have made bank.

interesting
makes me think on all that is needed in the backend to have an updated website to check this things
that's probably why bloomberg got so big
it's interesting to think too on everything that is needed for trading view to have up to date information

The possibilities are endless, it's just the matter of effort

[ethereumhunter]

I have seen gamblers using small fund to win a bigger profits which might not even be possible if we are not concentrate of and discipline to win with all experience out together. Gambling can be a little bit stressful when we are not making any winnings and it is very good for us to be prepared and make sure we make money for us ourselves if we really want to see people learning from us. What differentiate a poor gambler from the rich one is capital. A rich gambler would want to use bigger capital or bankroll to gambler taking few games and putting bigger amounts of money while a poor gambler would want to use his little amount to make huge profits from gambling.

Those who gamble using small fund can win a bigger profits but they must have control to takes their profit anytime they win. Many gamblers can not holds themselves from keep playing gambling and risks their money and that makes them lose much money. They don't realizes that they will lose all of their money, no matters if they are rich or poor gamblers. Playing gambling will risks more money for both gamblers so they must know how to minimize their risks so they don't have to lose much money. In this matter, both rich or poor gamblers must pay attention to their money because they can spends more money more than they can afford to lose and that will gives them a big risks of losing the money. That is why all gamblers must not use too much money to playing gambling because the risks behind of playing gambling will takes all of their money.

[madnessteat]

The most probable scenario is that the gambler ends up even poorer than before.

But to prevent that from happening, you have to limit your balance for playing, that is, if you have little money, it is best to limit the money for playing and not commit all your money. Personally, that is my strategy, and once things work out, well, otherwise what can happen is that once you lose, you can leave everything there, not bet any more, and that is the most correct thing to do, but you have to have the necessary discipline to not deposit any more money.

I think limiting bankroll for these more degen activities or having a limit to play money is a wise thing to do
at the end of the day you'll have a simple tool to protect you from yourself and from your desires
even if you want more money to play if it's not there right at the moment your urge may subside and you'll be able to control yourself.

I have a few years practiced in my gambling experience limiting the bankroll and I'll be honest sometimes my desires are stronger and in a fit of excitement, I deposit casino money that at first did not plan to use for this.

Therefore, I believe that the risk is in no way related to the financial state of the gambler. The risk of each individual gambler depends only on himself.

[LUCKMCFLY]

People don't want to know there place in gambling and it been your are rich or poor losing is something you can not avoid just that the rich have money and when they don't win they still have other means that they can fall back to, but the poor or an average person can even bet with all they have I don't think the rich will make that mistake of gambling all they have.

And for that reason there is so much poverty in the world because poor people focus on looking for quick and Easy money, and things do not work like that a rich person does not play because he is in need, and most poor players play because they need to get out of their situation, then this means that while they are more focused on doing things to get rich, the same System will deny it , Because of the same desperation and that makes them commit and comment more Mistakes , like betting to get back the money that was lost and brings many Consequences.

[DaNNy001]

The poor shouldn't gamble in the first place, they should accumulate as much as possible to build their wealth. If they're keep gamble, that's the reason why they're still poor. Remember, gamble using free bet or faucet isn't gambling since you're risking for nothing.

So it's the rich that should risk more, they have larger money, means they can gamble mores.

I agree, it would be better for those who are rich and have money to take risks because there is also a possibility that they will earn back the money they will lose, unlike the poor, when the money they used is lost, that is a big loss and problem for them, where they will get something to trade with the money they lost.
it's better to those poor people to focus on working and saving instead of adding vices that won't help their lives.

You are absolutely right, only the rich has a higher chance of benefitting from their risks, a poor gambler can't afford to lose multiple times and still have enough to stake, a rich gambler can chase losses till  he or she gets it back with a little chance of getting some Profits, this isn't adviced though, chasing your losses sometimes might not have an happy ending... gambling is for the rich and the poor but more fun and enjoyable for the Rich

[Accardo]

People don't want to know there place in gambling and it been your are rich or poor losing is something you can not avoid just that the rich have money and when they don't win they still have other means that they can fall back to, but the poor or an average person can even bet with all they have I don't think the rich will make that mistake of gambling all they have.

And for that reason there is so much poverty in the world because poor people focus on looking for quick and Easy money, and things do not work like that a rich person does not play because he is in need, and most poor players play because they need to get out of their situation, then this means that while they are more focused on doing things to get rich, the same System will deny it , Because of the same desperation and that makes them commit and comment more Mistakes , like betting to get back the money that was lost and brings many Consequences.

Gamblers are not just making this mistake because they possess a wrong gambling perspective. The problem happen with both classes of gamblers. Even the rich make similar mistakes, which differentiates gambling success from monetary possession.

[shasan]

Anyone can take a risk if they want. But based on the available funds of the rich people poor rich people can take more fund risk than the poor. But based on the percentage of available funds it is not easy to say who can risk more and who should risk more. My conception is that no one should take a risk which they can't afford if they loss.

[nullama]

Anyone can take a risk if they want. But based on the available funds of the rich people poor rich people can take more fund risk than the poor. But based on the percentage of available funds it is not easy to say who can risk more and who should risk more. My conception is that no one should take a risk which they can't afford if they loss.

Yeah, I think that's the whole point. Rich and poor can end up in the same situation after a single bet.

They will face the exact same probabilities, maybe the poor person gambled $1 and the rich gambled $1M, but the roulette ended up in 00, so both of them lost their bet.

That means they could both end up broke in the exact amount of time.

[Jody.Drummer]

Anyone can take a risk if they want. But based on the available funds of the rich people poor rich people can take more fund risk than the poor. But based on the percentage of available funds it is not easy to say who can risk more and who should risk more. My conception is that no one should take a risk which they can't afford if they loss.

If viewed from finances, of course rich people can take bigger risks with the money they have tends to be more and of course that makes them free to bet without hesitation, for those who are poor, of course they have limitations in gambling financially when their money runs out, they will most likely stop whether they like it or not, but for someone who does not know themselves with their poor condition and has lost in gambling but is already addicted, they can take risks such as borrowing money, stealing or others.

apart from that, it is indeed not easy to say who can take bigger risks and who should take bigger risks. the risks that will occur depend on each individual, if they can limit their thinking, maybe they will not dare to take risks, I myself am a person who does not dare to take risks when it comes to gambling because there is no certainty that I can win, this is a consideration that I always think about when I am going to take risks. and in my opinion it is also not advisable to take risks, especially if we only hope that gambling is not a good thing to do.

[EarnOnVictor]

Therefore, I believe that the risk is in no way related to the financial state of the gambler.

This statement is on point and I've iterated such many times on the forum, particularly on topics like this where people are so particular about the people believing that only the poor will always suffer the consequences. The "rich also cry" because they have their limits as well. It all depends on the financial state of the gambler whether rich or poor, this will definitely be used to measure the risk such a gambler would take that will not be painful or that could be deemed affordable as the case may be. If any gambelr lets it loose and risks beyond their own threshold, I don't see how on earth that gambler would not be pained whether he is rich or poor.

The risk of each individual gambler depends only on himself.

I also agree because it could be summarised into an individual's risk affinity. This is not a respecter of what you are worth, but your ability to take the risk could make you commit more than necessary to the risky activity and this could define who you really are in risk-taking and could be caused by greed, aggression and other emotional factors.

Both the rich and poor are also susceptible to this regardless of their status.

[Odusko]

I have seen gamblers using small fund to win a bigger profits which might not even be possible if we are not concentrate of and discipline to win with all experience out together. Gambling can be a little bit stressful when we are not making any winnings and it is very good for us to be prepared and make sure we make money for us ourselves if we really want to see people learning from us. What differentiate a poor gambler from the rich one is capital. A rich gambler would want to use bigger capital or bankroll to gambler taking few games and putting bigger amounts of money while a poor gambler would want to use his little amount to make huge profits from gambling.

Those who gamble using small fund can win a bigger profits but they must have control to takes their profit anytime they win. Many gamblers can not holds themselves from keep playing gambling and risks their money and that makes them lose much money. They don't realizes that they will lose all of their money, no matters if they are rich or poor gamblers. Playing gambling will risks more money for both gamblers so they must know how to minimize their risks so they don't have to lose much money. In this matter, both rich or poor gamblers must pay attention to their money because they can spends more money more than they can afford to lose and that will gives them a big risks of losing the money. That is why all gamblers must not use too much money to playing gambling because the risks behind of playing gambling will takes all of their money.

I believe that gambling winnings and rewards accumulations comes from the amount the gambler put in to wager with, so if you say that those who gamble with small amount of money can win big, you may have not entirely cover's the whole nitigrety of gambling and risk involvement, let say if I am staking a bet with 0.00001 bitcoin, and I want to win 0.01 bitcoin in total rewards, it then means that I will have to accumulate alot of gains so that the rewards can increase from the odds accumulated, but we should not forget that, the more games you accumulate, this s also increases your chances of losing the bet, because the higher the number of game's you accumulate the higher your risk level, so for sure if you think you can make huge amount of money from gambling with a small amount of fund's you have to rethink the risk you will face.
For me, it is better I gamble with just a big amount of money but on a single game and with low odds that increases my chances of winning the bet, although that is not also a guarantee to win either since gambling is filled with unexpected outcomes, so for me I gamble with at least a good amount of money if I intended to win something tangible, but if I am just gambling for fun, I don't mind using a small amount of money for my bet.

[Etranger]

For me, it is better I gamble with just a big amount of money but on a single game and with low odds that increases my chances of winning the bet, although that is not also a guarantee to win either since gambling is filled with unexpected outcomes, so for me I gamble with at least a good amount of money if I intended to win something tangible, but if I am just gambling for fun, I don't mind using a small amount of money for my bet.

I am not sure, if I understood you correctly. Were you saying that the odds to win are higher, when you gamble with a big amount of money, but do it in a smaller number of games? For example, bet 150$ just in 1 or 2 games? And doing so could lead to winning, but not so many xxx, that the percentage of possible win will be lower then in case of numerous games with smaller bets?

[l3pox]

For me, it is better I gamble with just a big amount of money but on a single game and with low odds that increases my chances of winning the bet, although that is not also a guarantee to win either since gambling is filled with unexpected outcomes, so for me I gamble with at least a good amount of money if I intended to win something tangible, but if I am just gambling for fun, I don't mind using a small amount of money for my bet.

I am not sure, if I understood you correctly. Were you saying that the odds to win are higher, when you gamble with a big amount of money, but do it in a smaller number of games? For example, bet 150$ just in 1 or 2 games? And doing so could lead to winning, but not so many xxx, that the percentage of possible win will be lower then in case of numerous games with smaller bets?

in theory would be a good idea to expose yourself only to assymetrical opportunities of risk/reward and avoid those that carry a high risk but a small reward
does it make any sense?

I'm not sure if there are many like that in gambling or if it is a good idea to always bet on the underdog hoping for the high reward.

[noormcs5]

interesting
makes me think on all that is needed in the backend to have an updated website to check this things
that's probably why bloomberg got so big
it's interesting to think too on everything that is needed for trading view to have up to date information

I do not completely understand your point of view. Trading view, as you mentioned, gather data from exchanges through APIs and show us the live coins price data. However with the information available on trading view, with all those lagging indicators and sites like Bloomberg, i do not think the gamblers can find much help from them other than finding the things (the lagging data) in a centralized places.

[junder]

Gamblers are not just making this mistake because they possess a wrong gambling perspective. The problem happen with both classes of gamblers. Even the rich make similar mistakes, which differentiates gambling success from monetary possession.

that's right, there is no clear certainty who will take greater risks in this case. rich or poor people can take big risks if they have the wrong perspective, because when they apply the wrong perspective then it is likely that they can fall into deeper gambling and ignore the risk side that is actually clear that will happen. and indeed no one knows clearly with the perspective of each individual so these two classes can experience it themselves.

besides that even though rich people have more money does not mean they can be calm in gambling or betting, because in my opinion when they have enough money and the other side has the wrong perspective then it is likely that they will continue to bet without caring that they have lost a lot of money that they bet on gambling.

[bitcoin_mining]

Gambling an activity for fun also has the chance to turn someone's fortune. Calculated risk when taken in gambling can be the way to big wins from gambling. Who do you think should take more risk in gambling? The rich gambler or the gambler who is not yet rich. If a rich gambler takes risks in gambling, they are risking losing money and becoming poor from gambling, or getting richer, when a gambler who is not yet rich gambles, they can also get poorer or richer, so the gambler who should take the risk should be the gambler who can handle the dangers of the risk like losing too. When a rich gambler loses from taking a risk, there is a better chance of them being in a position to manage with the losses, than someone struggling financially who a big loss will really affect. So, I am confused after asking myself this question and answering it, does this mean a poor gambler should continue to play it safe in gambling? With no risk, how can a poor gambler change their fortune in gambling?

When a rich person and a poor person both have an account on a gambling site, but that gambling site does not verify who has the amount of money, but everyone is equal and can gamble there with as much money as they want. The only thing a rich person can do is to gamble because he has a lot of money, but the idea that a rich person's gambling strategy will always be better than a poor person's is wrong. There are many poor gamblers who gamble according to plan and according to plan they get a lot of success from gambling but the opposite happens with rich people. We see that despite having a lot of money, they lose all their wealth by gambling with the wrong strategy. So those who are good at not considering the rich and the poor, but decision-making ability, withdrawal of excessive greed and gambling skills, will be more likely to achieve success in gambling.

[Out of mind]

People don't want to know there place in gambling and it been your are rich or poor losing is something you can not avoid just that the rich have money and when they don't win they still have other means that they can fall back to, but the poor or an average person can even bet with all they have I don't think the rich will make that mistake of gambling all they have.

And for that reason there is so much poverty in the world because poor people focus on looking for quick and Easy money, and things do not work like that a rich person does not play because he is in need, and most poor players play because they need to get out of their situation, then this means that while they are more focused on doing things to get rich, the same System will deny it , Because of the same desperation and that makes them commit and comment more Mistakes , like betting to get back the money that was lost and brings many Consequences.

Gamblers are not just making this mistake because they possess a wrong gambling perspective. The problem happen with both classes of gamblers. Even the rich make similar mistakes, which differentiates gambling success from monetary possession.

However, gamblers have many types of mistakes in their approach due to which they face losses. Both classes of gamblers make mistakes, not the difference between the rich and the poor, if they are not experienced in gambling, they will surely lose. But I think rich people don't suffer much loss to succeed, but they can easily re-accumulate their lost money by gambling again later. But when a poor person loses, it takes a long time to re-accumulate that person's money because he has to work hard and then participate in gambling. In that case, it takes time for the poor to achieve financial success, but the rich can achieve success very easily because of their money.

[betswift]

Anyone can take a risk if they want. But based on the available funds of the rich people poor rich people can take more fund risk than the poor. But based on the percentage of available funds it is not easy to say who can risk more and who should risk more. My conception is that no one should take a risk which they can't afford if they loss.

Totally valid! For one it can be nothing, and for another - everything, but it will be money spent anyway.