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February 16, 2024, 11:06:51 PM
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It's never too late, if your friend really has a strong determination and commitment to get out of this problem, it's not impossible for him to recover from this problem. However, if in reality your friend is unable to realize bad behavior while gambling, this behavior can only cause continuous losses and losses. It is quite difficult for your friend to get out of this problem (gambling addiction). And I think there is no other way, apart from you continuing to try to make him aware, and that's if you really care enough about your friend's condition. And if you can, persuade him to come to a counselor so that he can get quick and appropriate treatment regarding the problems he is facing. Because if it is not handled immediately, this can become increasingly complicated and become quite difficult to find a solution to.

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February 16, 2024, 11:13:19 PM
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He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.

As I have stated many times in my previous comments, the importance of the amount lost in gambling depends entirely on the financial situation of the person. That is, if 64.000 USD is an amount that doesn't cause financial difficulties for a person if he/she loses in gambling, it will not be a serious problem for that person. However, considering the situation you mentioned, this amount is quite high for this person and his ambition to earn this amount he lost by gambling more actually means that he is addicted to gambling. In addition, the fact that a person loses all his income in gambling and goes through a difficult financial process due to these losses is a sufficient reason to state that he is addicted to gambling and that he is affected by this addiction and loses all his money.

In order to get rid of gambling addiction, this person must first realize that the money he lost in gambling and that this situation negatively affects his life and with this awareness he must take a long break from gambling or even quit gambling completely. However, considering the current situation, I think that this person cannot overcome this gambling addiction with only advice and his own will so it would definitely be very beneficial for him to try to get rid of this addiction with the help of a psychologist.
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February 17, 2024, 01:00:01 PM
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It's never too late, if your friend really has a strong determination and commitment to get out of this problem, it's not impossible for him to recover from this problem. However, if in reality your friend is unable to realize bad behavior while gambling, this behavior can only cause continuous losses and losses. It is quite difficult for your friend to get out of this problem (gambling addiction). And I think there is no other way, apart from you continuing to try to make him aware, and that's if you really care enough about your friend's condition. And if you can, persuade him to come to a counselor so that he can get quick and appropriate treatment regarding the problems he is facing. Because if it is not handled immediately, this can become increasingly complicated and become quite difficult to find a solution to.
The will to stop must be greater than the gambler himself because being forced by other people to stop does not necessarily provide full awareness for those who are addicted. Extra care must be given and rehabilitation is a place that needs to be visited regularly so that they can be psychologically trained to do other things that are much more useful and can inspire them to stop. Cases of severe addiction are not much different from people who are addicted to drugs even though the way they are treated is different because both play on the psychology of the brain and their perspective is almost the same.

No one wants to be involved in addiction because it will be quite difficult to cure, but in reality what happens is that it happens because there is no good control from oneself or those closest to them. It is difficult to describe how they were initially involved because almost everyone has experienced delinquency at a young age and when everything happens without control it becomes even more dangerous.

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February 17, 2024, 01:17:15 PM
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I had a friend in the gambling circle,he was gambler addicted person over a year.I had advised him many times,but he is not ready to accept my advice in the gambling.Apart from gambling,my friend accept my advice without any hesitation.When I had a time on weekend,I get a chance to meet him in personal.I had some question about his gambling addiction,but the sad part is he is not accepted his gambling addiction towards the gambling site.

He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.

    -   As long as there is greed, gamblers will not really pay attention to it, especially if they have an addiction to gambling. In your friend's scenario, you can't do anything because it's his money. Although such a large amount is disappointing.

If I think about 64k, I can buy a new house and lot, brand new vehicles, and a business somehow, and I can actually start a new life. That's why, for him, it's just like a coin tossed around like that.

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February 17, 2024, 03:42:15 PM
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I had a friend in the gambling circle,he was gambler addicted person over a year.I had advised him many times,but he is not ready to accept my advice in the gambling.Apart from gambling,my friend accept my advice without any hesitation.When I had a time on weekend,I get a chance to meet him in personal.I had some question about his gambling addiction,but the sad part is he is not accepted his gambling addiction towards the gambling site.

He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.

    -   As long as there is greed, gamblers will not really pay attention to it, especially if they have an addiction to gambling. In your friend's scenario, you can't do anything because it's his money. Although such a large amount is disappointing.

Greed is very likely to overshadow all aspects that lead to risk management, this can happen intentionally or unintentionally, for example like when you are in a winning situation, you can be aware or understand that when you apply greed then the session can end with more significant  regret and on the other hand you can also unconsciously do or apply greed in the sense of "forgetting" or not knowing that there is a worse possibility that is very likely to happen at the end of the session that is losing all the money you have previously earned.

Yes on the other hand we can't force  someone not to apply greed in their gambling because it is possible to eventually become a problem between you and your friends where maybe they will think that you are blocking everything they want to do, even though your goal is good and good to lead to preventive action but I think there will always be people who really don't understand that what we suggest is something that is best for themselves. But yes, the point is that at least we have given the best advice and for the problem of clarity, let them feel it.

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February 17, 2024, 06:02:48 PM
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Gambling addiction is a complex psychological condition, not just a financial problem. The widespread but dangerous myth is that your friend can reverse his fortunes at the cause of his slide. I believe healing begins in the head, not at the casino. Promoting professional help may be the best first move. Gambling addiction therapists and support groups can help break this cycle.

A gambling-free budget is essential. Perhaps introducing him to safer investing options could shift his focus from gambling's high dangers to better financial practices. Remember, the goal is to rebuild a healthy relationship with money, not only regain lost funds.
Gamblers who wants to quit the addiction if gambling need to first accept the fact that they are in an unhealthy habit and it's very essential they quit els they will have to suffer the addiction a long time such that they will not be able to quit it and it may end up a life time issues in some cases but some gamblers don't mind they risk it to still keep gambling because they believe they will eventually win one day regardless of how much they have lost to the casino but then sadly they just keep loosing more and more to the casino and they almost end up never recovering as they think they would because they are addicted and are not really rational with their decisions.

Gamblers who are addicted and are willing to quit usually find it much easier when they go Visit a professional help with their intentions of quitting but when they still continue gambling without the willingness to quit it becomes difficult to help them.

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February 17, 2024, 07:08:34 PM
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I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.
That is still a quite high budget to be used for gambling reasons, considering this person must have many other expenses to pay off in a monthly basis. In my opinion, lost money in gambling should be considered lost forever. If you want to recover it, you must find alternative sources of income which don't involve betting.

But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.
Then he can expect to lose 100% of his income continuously, plus increase his debt with banks or loan sharks considerably. By following this strategy, those 64,000$ he already lost will look like beer money when compared to the big financial trouble he is getting into. I just fear at some point he is going to pay his debt with his life... I would tell him that if he values his life, he should forget about this idea immediately. Suicide and murder walk side by side with debt! Sometimes the person's conscience doesn't forgive, and in other situations loan sharks don't forgive.

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February 18, 2024, 02:23:36 AM
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Gambling addiction is a complex psychological condition, not just a financial problem. The widespread but dangerous myth is that your friend can reverse his fortunes at the cause of his slide. I believe healing begins in the head, not at the casino. Promoting professional help may be the best first move. Gambling addiction therapists and support groups can help break this cycle.

A gambling-free budget is essential. Perhaps introducing him to safer investing options could shift his focus from gambling's high dangers to better financial practices. Remember, the goal is to rebuild a healthy relationship with money, not only regain lost funds.
Gamblers who wants to quit the addiction if gambling need to first accept the fact that they are in an unhealthy habit and it's very essential they quit els they will have to suffer the addiction a long time such that they will not be able to quit it and it may end up a life time issues in some cases but some gamblers don't mind they risk it to still keep gambling because they believe they will eventually win one day regardless of how much they have lost to the casino but then sadly they just keep loosing more and more to the casino and they almost end up never recovering as they think they would because they are addicted and are not really rational with their decisions.

Gamblers who are addicted and are willing to quit usually find it much easier when they go Visit a professional help with their intentions of quitting but when they still continue gambling without the willingness to quit it becomes difficult to help them.

Addictions will always have their impact on everything, financially, personally and sometimes in the person's environment, so in this order of ideas things can look very bad, so each of us has to become aware, first of all things What should we do to avoid it, sometimes people who enter a casino say that they are self-sufficient, and that they know these things, sometimes from emotions people can say that these things can happen, but be honest, even to ourselves. Because sometimes we are and have some experience, many things escape us, which is why at all times we must do our best to be in control of everything, and since it is so difficult to control emotions, it is better controlling the budget, for me that is much easier than emotions, so in this order of ideas the best thing is always to control the money.

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February 18, 2024, 10:20:32 AM
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Gamblers who wants to quit the addiction if gambling need to first accept the fact that they are in an unhealthy habit and it's very essential they quit els they will have to suffer the addiction a long time such that they will not be able to quit it and it may end up a life time issues in some cases but some gamblers don't mind they risk it to still keep gambling because they believe they will eventually win one day regardless of how much they have lost to the casino but then sadly they just keep loosing more and more to the casino and they almost end up never recovering as they think they would because they are addicted and are not really rational with their decisions.

Gamblers who are addicted and are willing to quit usually find it much easier when they go Visit a professional help with their intentions of quitting but when they still continue gambling without the willingness to quit it becomes difficult to help them.
There are times when they must be able to admit their gambling addiction and the desire to cure their gambling addiction so that they can start looking for how to cure their gambling addiction. There are many ways they can prevent their gambling addiction from growing, but it requires intention and effort, which is not easy because they have to be able to control themselves well and also have to spend time training their self-control skills. Most gamblers fail to exercise self-control and they return to gambling and become even more addicted to gambling. When gamblers believe they can win one day and gamble more and more often, it will only cause even bigger problems because they can spend a lot of money. Especially if they don't limit the use of their money for gambling and only think about continuing to gamble until the time to win comes.

It would just be a waste because no one knows when someone can win a lot of money. And instead of wasting money on gambling, they should start reducing their gambling activities. Moreover, it's okay to start limiting our gambling activities to reduce the number of losses, especially if we only have limited capital to gamble.

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February 18, 2024, 10:46:14 AM
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I had a friend in the gambling circle,he was gambler addicted person over a year.I had advised him many times,but he is not ready to accept my advice in the gambling.Apart from gambling,my friend accept my advice without any hesitation.When I had a time on weekend,I get a chance to meet him in personal.I had some question about his gambling addiction,but the sad part is he is not accepted his gambling addiction towards the gambling site.

He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.

           -  He is still in the heat of gambling, so he is still a bit blind to your reminders to him as a friend. Just let him do what he's doing, because the time will come when he himself will notice what he's doing in the end. Right now, the level of addiction it has is still high.

The important thing is that you did your job as a friend to him, because those were the times when he was hyped and hyped about gambling, even though he always lost. That was fine with him,
he's still too drunk on what he's doing so he doesn't really notice right now.

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February 18, 2024, 11:00:28 AM
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Addicted gamblers don't always like advice, until they satisfied themselves and later come out with nothing, that's when they will decide to respect your advice, and take action, but while they are still on that verge of making money in gambling only, every other advises are stupid to their ear.

Don't waste your time with them, let learn their lessons, and they will make their choices either to keep gambling in a responsible manner or quit gambling for good, when someone close to me is a gambler I always feel pity because I know how hard it is to be a step ahead of gambling addiction, it's possible to be a addict without you realizing that you are.

Even if you have a very good job you don't want to be addicted to gambling, it could ruin your life, because you will always want to take huge risks, that dream land that you always want to build in future you will start believing that gambling can bring it faster than your job.

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February 18, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
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Even if you have a very good job you don't want to be addicted to gambling, it could ruin your life, because you will always want to take huge risks, that dream land that you always want to build in future you will start believing that gambling can bring it faster than your job.

Having a job doesn't necessarily mean you're rich, and you are at risk of losing your job if you become addicted to gambling. Yes, that's on us; we can't blame gambling or anyone else if we get addicted since we know for a fact that there's a risk of addiction, and yet we didn't implement the right controls to prevent it. Similar to cigarettes or alcohol, gambling is addictive, but it can be more destructive because we are dealing with money. We can lose a significant amount of money as there's no limit when you are gambling, especially when you are losing. However, if you win, you'll be limited by the casino to protect their business. Therefore, our principle should be the same; if we are losing, we should limit ourselves to prevent further losses.

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February 18, 2024, 11:07:53 AM
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           -  He is still in the heat of gambling, so he is still a bit blind to your reminders to him as a friend. Just let him do what he's doing, because the time will come when he himself will notice what he's doing in the end. Right now, the level of addiction it has is still high.

The important thing is that you did your job as a friend to him, because those were the times when he was hyped and hyped about gambling, even though he always lost. That was fine with him,
he's still too drunk on what he's doing so he doesn't really notice right now.
There is a popular saying that says "when someone is mad he doesn't know he is mad otherwise there's no day he will walk street to street without knowing". So is gambling when someone is addicted or suffering from addiction he won't know all less someone outside there put them in order otherwise a gambling addicts will still suffer from it.

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February 18, 2024, 11:13:06 AM
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Even if you have a very good job you don't want to be addicted to gambling, it could ruin your life, because you will always want to take huge risks, that dream land that you always want to build in future you will start believing that gambling can bring it faster than your job.

Having a job doesn't necessarily mean you're rich, and you are at risk of losing your job if you become addicted to gambling. Yes, that's on us; we can't blame gambling or anyone else if we get addicted since we know for a fact that there's a risk of addiction, and yet we didn't implement the right controls to prevent it. Similar to cigarettes or alcohol, gambling is addictive, but it can be more destructive because we are dealing with money. We can lose a significant amount of money as there's no limit when you are gambling, especially when you are losing. However, if you win, you'll be limited by the casino to protect their business. Therefore, our principle should be the same; if we are losing, we should limit ourselves to prevent further losses.
People who are addicted to gambling are more likely to lack control. So for those who are already addicted, I think it will be quite difficult to start controlling their gambling activities. they have to overcome their addiction first. and try to stop or at least reduce their gambling activities.
Control of gambling is indeed important. but more and more gamblers ignore it all and that increases the risk of addiction and greater losses. Building awareness of the risks of gambling and the limits of gambling should be done before someone starts gambling activities. If they first play at a casino before knowing the risks and limitations of gambling, there is a big chance they will become addicted.

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February 18, 2024, 12:00:43 PM
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It's never too late, if your friend really has a strong determination and commitment to get out of this problem, it's not impossible for him to recover from this problem. However, if in reality your friend is unable to realize bad behavior while gambling, this behavior can only cause continuous losses and losses. It is quite difficult for your friend to get out of this problem (gambling addiction). And I think there is no other way, apart from you continuing to try to make him aware, and that's if you really care enough about your friend's condition. And if you can, persuade him to come to a counselor so that he can get quick and appropriate treatment regarding the problems he is facing. Because if it is not handled immediately, this can become increasingly complicated and become quite difficult to find a solution to.
The will to stop must be greater than the gambler himself because being forced by other people to stop does not necessarily provide full awareness for those who are addicted. Extra care must be given and rehabilitation is a place that needs to be visited regularly so that they can be psychologically trained to do other things that are much more useful and can inspire them to stop. Cases of severe addiction are not much different from people who are addicted to drugs even though the way they are treated is different because both play on the psychology of the brain and their perspective is almost the same.

No one wants to be involved in addiction because it will be quite difficult to cure, but in reality what happens is that it happens because there is no good control from oneself or those closest to them. It is difficult to describe how they were initially involved because almost everyone has experienced delinquency at a young age and when everything happens without control it becomes even more dangerous.

Yes, that's true, even though many people give advice and advice or even force them to become aware and stop being addicted, they won't be able to stop if they themselves don't have the awareness to stop. It is also true what you said that their awareness must be greater than the advice they get from other people, in other words, they themselves must first have awareness to be able to stop the addiction to gambling which is detrimental to them. If they don't have their own awareness then it will be difficult for them to stop their addiction.

It is true that no one wants to fall into a gambling addiction that results in losses, but the fact is that they become addicted and experience many losses because they themselves respond wrongly to gambling. If they can respond to gambling well and correctly, perhaps they will not experience many losses. or addiction. In my opinion, if they are addicted to gambling and have experienced a lot of losses, it has proven that they have lost self-control, because if they had good self-control from the start, maybe they would be addicted to gambling or big losses would not have occurred.

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February 18, 2024, 12:55:48 PM
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I disagree that gambling addiction causes loss. If person always looses, how can he be addicted, when he runs out of money? Some people have false understanding of what gambling addiction is. Some people gamble regularly, but others call them addicted, while gambling is more of a hobby or they way they get fun. Some simlly dont pay attention to losses, as they like the process in general.

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I had a friend in the gambling circle,he was gambler addicted person over a year.I had advised him many times,but he is not ready to accept my advice in the gambling.Apart from gambling,my friend accept my advice without any hesitation.When I had a time on weekend,I get a chance to meet him in personal.I had some question about his gambling addiction,but the sad part is he is not accepted his gambling addiction towards the gambling site.

He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.

    -   As long as there is greed, gamblers will not really pay attention to it, especially if they have an addiction to gambling. In your friend's scenario, you can't do anything because it's his money. Although such a large amount is disappointing.

If I think about 64k, I can buy a new house and lot, brand new vehicles, and a business somehow, and I can actually start a new life. That's why, for him, it's just like a coin tossed around like that.
I will never waste such a large amount of money on gambling. A greedy person's life will be destroyed in no time even if he has a lot of money. If the person does not understand the harmful aspects of gambling addiction on his own, then it is really difficult to recover him. You have to prepare yourself by trying to understand the various harmful aspects of gambling addiction, everything is easy if you understand it. Addicts often don't want to think about it or don't remember it he will continue to bet like this until the money runs out. When it's over there's no point in regretting it.

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People who are addicted to gambling are more likely to lack control. So for those who are already addicted, I think it will be quite difficult to start controlling their gambling activities. they have to overcome their addiction first. and try to stop or at least reduce their gambling activities.
Control of gambling is indeed important. but more and more gamblers ignore it all and that increases the risk of addiction and greater losses. Building awareness of the risks of gambling and the limits of gambling should be done before someone starts gambling activities. If they first play at a casino before knowing the risks and limitations of gambling, there is a big chance they will become addicted.
That is a critical point about the challenges of regaining control for individuals already struggling with gambling addiction. Addiction is a complex issue that often requires professional intervention and ongoing treatment to overcome. Prevention is key in addressing the prevalence of gambling addiction. Having awareness of the risks associated with gambling and responsible gambling practices are things that can mitigate the likelihood of addiction.

People should make informed decisions before engaging in gambling activities. They need to know about the potential consequences of excessive gambling and the importance of setting and adhering to personal limits. People who have responsible gambling behaviors and a culture of awareness have the ability to reduce the prevalence of gambling addiction and its associated harms.

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February 19, 2024, 03:21:30 PM
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It's never too late, if your friend really has a strong determination and commitment to get out of this problem, it's not impossible for him to recover from this problem. However, if in reality your friend is unable to realize bad behavior while gambling, this behavior can only cause continuous losses and losses. It is quite difficult for your friend to get out of this problem (gambling addiction). And I think there is no other way, apart from you continuing to try to make him aware, and that's if you really care enough about your friend's condition. And if you can, persuade him to come to a counselor so that he can get quick and appropriate treatment regarding the problems he is facing. Because if it is not handled immediately, this can become increasingly complicated and become quite difficult to find a solution to.

That's right, it's never too late for things that lead to goodness, even if they have experienced such huge losses but if we have a strong awareness and determination as well as a strong commitment as you said then they can get out of this problem from the zone of losses that cannot be predicted. Because indeed to be able to stop gambling I think they need help also from other people such as from their relatives or their spouses if they are married, because indeed gambling addiction is clear that it will definitely cause losses that cannot be avoided with certainty.

However, as you said, if they themselves are not aware of their bad behavior, they will not care about it, even though they always experience losses, they will not care about this right. if those who are addicted to gambling are their own friends or friends, let alone relatives, we should try to make them aware because of course we don't want bad things to happen to our friends or relatives.

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February 19, 2024, 03:25:24 PM
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I will never waste such a large amount of money on gambling. A greedy person's life will be destroyed in no time even if he has a lot of money. If the person does not understand the harmful aspects of gambling addiction on his own, then it is really difficult to recover him. You have to prepare yourself by trying to understand the various harmful aspects of gambling addiction, everything is easy if you understand it. Addicts often don't want to think about it or don't remember it he will continue to bet like this until the money runs out. When it's over there's no point in regretting it.
In fact for a bet it depends on how much wealth you have because however when we consider a big bet sometimes it becomes a small bet for others and indeed there must be some conditions and factors that determine in this case.
We will consider it a big bet but unlike those whose wealth is unlimited, it will only be considered trivial for them even though we consider it a big bet.

We have seen Neymar who just laughed after losing his 1 million in gambling that was only done for 1 hour but indeed when he is a person who has unlimited money even though we consider it a crazy bet but it will only be considered as dust because they don't pay too much attention to the nominal because their wealth is far greater than that even though it seems bad but when we have money then we can do whatever we want including for bets that are considered big by others.

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