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March 22, 2024, 08:37:13 AM
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I think gambling is a controllable addiction because I can control myself, but some people cannot control themselves, like in the example you gave. Your friend seems to be a hopeless case. I don't think the advice you are giving him will have a positive outcome. If I were you, I would try to get professional help after doing everything I could. Professional health organizations that fight against addictions can help you. Specialized psychiatrists or psychologists will surely help your friend. They spend their lives helping people like your friend. We should always trust professionals and science.

but usually addicts think that what they are doing is right and they don't believe what anyone else says other than themselves. usually they will refuse various forms of help, even from professionals, which makes it very difficult to treat gambling addicts. so the initial approach that can be taken to treat the addict is to approach him with empathy and understand what he is feeling. then, after a while of this approach being carried out, professional help is brought in to be able to provide emotional assistance to the addict and at the same time to help him get out of his addiction.

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March 22, 2024, 08:51:16 AM
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Your friend is chasing losses in the bid to get recovery and it's actually such a bad practice because it wouldn't help him get the recovery he's desire actually so it will be best if he apply some restrain or possibly quit gambling I'm the main time and get his hand on his job and make sure he's not going to pay up his loans using his salary and if he starts in bit, gradually he will be able to offset his loan but in the mean time he's yet to come to that realization that revenge gambling will only cause you more losses and not wins so it's much better if you allow yourself to not revenge but rather gradually get to recover from the losses and not doing it hastely as that will result in further losses and increase the stress for recovery.

Such a person can aswell seek professional help so they can be able to get guide that will actually help them through quiting such addiction because personally they may not be able to do it all alone, they may possibly go back to it even when they try to quit if they are not professionally guided. The only solution for your friend at this point is quitting els he may even loose much more if he continues because he's not in the best mindset.

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March 22, 2024, 09:07:24 AM
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Gambling addiction is chronic, and its healing process consumes time. Nobody undergoes this process with no long-lasting trauma. Unless the bond between the addict and his friend isn't strong, they can forgo the painful thoughts of the healing process. Therapists due to work and one rule that states, "remember you are not the cause of the player's trouble" don't stress themselves thinking about the pains of the addict, added to it, the therapists don't spend lots of time with the addict. Unlike a loved one who worries over the wellbeing of a friend, and may spend nights and days with him, he'd undergo lots of depression during the period. For the rule stated above, it's not right that a friend suffers pain or gets affected by a gambler's addiction. The healer is free and wasn't the cause of the trouble. Although we are humans, and lots of our thoughts are reflexive, we'll find ourselves getting worried over it.

That's why referring him to a therapist is a superb idea. Because the pains don't register in the therapist's brain, he's the right candidate for handling the healing process. However, not everyone is capable of paying for a session, an alternative method plays a vital role. This is the idea you wrote above, letting him remember that he's loved. Telling him he's wrong may not work, hence trying to teach him his game is not effective. Concealing our intentions works best, working alongside him to guide him will build an interpersonal relationship between the gambler and his friend, to a point where the addict, depends on his friend for advice and gambling techniques. The goal is to let the addict lead the process, then hijack his thoughts or strategies and replace them with ours, as a friend.

When someone has experienced a serious or chronic gambling addiction, it is clear that being able to get out or recover from it will be difficult, and to recover completely it will take a long time, and they must be able to go through a difficult process, because it will not be easy. can stop or can recover from addiction just like that. I think that even if you try to recover from addiction, you will most likely only fail, because the temptation to gamble is very strong and if you are addicted, it will be difficult to stop yourself from gambling.

when addiction has occurred then big losses cannot be avoided, and perhaps it is true that what you said is that in order to recover you need help from other people, however I think that if the main perpetrator does not have his own awareness then it will be just as difficult, so if you really want to recover from addiction then The main actor must have his own awareness first and then others. because there are people who are addicted to gambling who get suggestions and advice from other people but they can't accept it because they feel that they are addicted to it and they feel right about what they are doing even though it is detrimental to themselves.

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March 22, 2024, 09:19:49 AM
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I think gambling is a controllable addiction because I can control myself, but some people cannot control themselves, like in the example you gave. Your friend seems to be a hopeless case. I don't think the advice you are giving him will have a positive outcome. If I were you, I would try to get professional help after doing everything I could. Professional health organizations that fight against addictions can help you. Specialized psychiatrists or psychologists will surely help your friend. They spend their lives helping people like your friend. We should always trust professionals and science.

but usually addicts think that what they are doing is right and they don't believe what anyone else says other than themselves. usually they will refuse various forms of help, even from professionals, which makes it very difficult to treat gambling addicts. so the initial approach that can be taken to treat the addict is to approach him with empathy and understand what he is feeling. then, after a while of this approach being carried out, professional help is brought in to be able to provide emotional assistance to the addict and at the same time to help him get out of his addiction.
People who are addicted to gambling never understand how much money they are losing by gambling or how much their family is losing they never understand or even try to understand. By gambling, they are basically destroying their lives, destroying their families, becoming addicted to gambling, and by gambling, they are destroying their future. Such gambling should be avoided. Many times it can be seen that by gambling, the cash that they are losing may become addicted to gambling again and again to recover the money in full, so it is seen that they lose twice as much money to get that money back, so it is best to refrain from such gambling the decision

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March 22, 2024, 09:44:58 AM
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I think gambling is a controllable addiction because I can control myself, but some people cannot control themselves, like in the example you gave. Your friend seems to be a hopeless case. I don't think the advice you are giving him will have a positive outcome. If I were you, I would try to get professional help after doing everything I could. Professional health organizations that fight against addictions can help you. Specialized psychiatrists or psychologists will surely help your friend. They spend their lives helping people like your friend. We should always trust professionals and science.

but usually addicts think that what they are doing is right and they don't believe what anyone else says other than themselves. usually they will refuse various forms of help, even from professionals, which makes it very difficult to treat gambling addicts. so the initial approach that can be taken to treat the addict is to approach him with empathy and understand what he is feeling. then, after a while of this approach being carried out, professional help is brought in to be able to provide emotional assistance to the addict and at the same time to help him get out of his addiction.

That is true, unless their family goes into action, involved themselves and then "trick" the gamblers to going into rehab. I heard stories like this, that the gamblers didn't know that he will be going to the rehab and just to satisfy his family he join with them unknowingly.

And it turns out to be good in the long run, it's the start and so in the rehab, the guy was really help and he tinkers what he had done and how it affects his family. But not every recovering addict might be trick with this way though,

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March 22, 2024, 11:38:14 AM
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I had a friend in the gambling circle,he was gambler addicted person over a year.I had advised him many times,but he is not ready to accept my advice in the gambling.Apart from gambling,my friend accept my advice without any hesitation.When I had a time on weekend,I get a chance to meet him in personal.I had some question about his gambling addiction,but the sad part is he is not accepted his gambling addiction towards the gambling site.

He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources.I had advice him to use only 20 percentage of salary to get away from entire gambling loss.But he is now repeating the same 100 percentage of income from weekly,biweekly and monthly.So he was in the big loan problem.Still he is arranging funds from loan to play gambling,because he think that the recovery was possible at the place where he lost his money.What will be your suggestion for my friend to recover from the gambling addiction.
He already lost 64k to gambling and now he is on the journey to recover all he lost, it's never going to happen, because the magic is already working on him, he needs to get the 64k back and he is going keep bringing in more money lol, he might keep doing this for years to come and never made this amount back.

He was addicted already and he might never agree that he truly is addicted, many of them don't always accept until it's too late, if you want to help him he need to help himself first.

He needs to accept that he is a chronic gambling addict and he must stop chasing his losses, that 64k isn't ever coming back, if there will be a slim chance of making something back, he needs to be in control first, and start gambling in more responsible way.

Having 64k is a lot of money, it would have been better if he diverted all this amount into Bitcoin or gold, and find other means to remain a gambler.
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March 22, 2024, 12:21:02 PM
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Generally, addiction never gives us positive results but disastrous losses. Addiction can influence your thinking and behaviors which is usually a reason why we can no longer think of the right thing to do instead, most of the wrong decisions.

Gambling sites always remind us gamblers to gamble moderately they want us to become responsible despite the fact that they want to have more gamblers. Unfortunately, addiction still exists in gambling due to losing control of emotions which anyone could experience.

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March 22, 2024, 12:32:50 PM
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Your friend is chasing losses in the bid to get recovery and it's actually such a bad practice because it wouldn't help him get the recovery he's desire actually so it will be best if he apply some restrain or possibly quit gambling I'm the main time and get his hand on his job and make sure he's not going to pay up his loans using his salary and if he starts in bit, gradually he will be able to offset his loan but in the mean time he's yet to come to that realization that revenge gambling will only cause you more losses and not wins so it's much better if you allow yourself to not revenge but rather gradually get to recover from the losses and not doing it hastely as that will result in further losses and increase the stress for recovery.

Such a person can aswell seek professional help so they can be able to get guide that will actually help them through quiting such addiction because personally they may not be able to do it all alone, they may possibly go back to it even when they try to quit if they are not professionally guided. The only solution for your friend at this point is quitting els he may even loose much more if he continues because he's not in the best mindset.

         -   Because those gamblers who are chasing the loss have been carried away by their emotions, just by my observation. They chase because they may have lost or lost a lot,
and when that happens, it's a very difficult situation.

That's why having an addiction often leads to losing most of the time, but the loss of gamblers is not just for addicts; it happens to everyone. Even if you are a newbie here you can also
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March 22, 2024, 12:34:37 PM
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Generally, addiction never gives us positive results but disastrous losses. Addiction can influence your thinking and behaviors which is usually a reason why we can no longer think of the right thing to do instead, most of the wrong decisions.

Gambling sites always remind us gamblers to gamble moderately they want us to become responsible despite the fact that they want to have more gamblers. Unfortunately, addiction still exists in gambling due to losing control of emotions which anyone could experience.
Gambling addiction can actually be prevented by ourselves because usually people who are addicted to gambling are never aware that they are addicted to gambling, so when they are advised it is quite difficult, unless they realize it themselves, there will definitely be no positive impact when they are addicted to gambling because it is always certain. it will have a negative impact on himself and even the people around him too, so it is important to control yourself when gambling because once you are addicted to gambling it will be very difficult to cure it.

I have friends who are addicted to gambling and some of them have realized that they have crossed the line, usually they will realize after experiencing losing a lot of money and also the people around them, therefore when someone starts to be addicted to gambling, they don't just lose money. and not only the time but also other things such as losing family and others which make us ultimately suffer really big losses. The most important thing every gambler must realize is to have confidence that he can control himself from gambling addiction because when he can't do it it will definitely be difficult. cure it, but if we feel unable to do so, we should never gamble.

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Gambling addiction is chronic, and its healing process consumes time. Nobody undergoes this process with no long-lasting trauma. Unless the bond between the addict and his friend isn't strong, they can forgo the painful thoughts of the healing process. Therapists due to work and one rule that states, "remember you are not the cause of the player's trouble" don't stress themselves thinking about the pains of the addict, added to it, the therapists don't spend lots of time with the addict. Unlike a loved one who worries over the wellbeing of a friend, and may spend nights and days with him, he'd undergo lots of depression during the period. For the rule stated above, it's not right that a friend suffers pain or gets affected by a gambler's addiction. The healer is free and wasn't the cause of the trouble. Although we are humans, and lots of our thoughts are reflexive, we'll find ourselves getting worried over it.

That's why referring him to a therapist is a superb idea. Because the pains don't register in the therapist's brain, he's the right candidate for handling the healing process. However, not everyone is capable of paying for a session, an alternative method plays a vital role. This is the idea you wrote above, letting him remember that he's loved. Telling him he's wrong may not work, hence trying to teach him his game is not effective. Concealing our intentions works best, working alongside him to guide him will build an interpersonal relationship between the gambler and his friend, to a point where the addict, depends on his friend for advice and gambling techniques. The goal is to let the addict lead the process, then hijack his thoughts or strategies and replace them with ours, as a friend.


when addiction has occurred then big losses cannot be avoided, and perhaps it is true that what you said is that in order to recover you need help from other people, however I think that if the main perpetrator does not have his own awareness then it will be just as difficult, so if you really want to recover from addiction then The main actor must have his own awareness first and then others. because there are people who are addicted to gambling who get suggestions and advice from other people but they can't accept it because they feel that they are addicted to it and they feel right about what they are doing even though it is detrimental to themselves.

If the conversations don't align with that of the gambler, then it'll be hard for the gambler to comply with his therapist. That's why it's crucial to reason alongside the gambler. Whatever his strategy is, he should be left alone and watched. Then, along the line, he can gradually be taken out of such thoughts and changed entirely. The mistake with such people, addicts, is that they get affected by the statements of people around them not aligning with his reasoning. They'll only be your friend if you think and claim to act like them. And the goal is to achieve a good relationship with the gambler. This happens with everybody, we only love those who think like we do, and then they can influence us easily.

Arguments don't help good relationships, compared to effective conversation. Hence, the person who is working on helping the gambler needs to be careful not to get carried away by the lifestyle of the addict. As it's a long-term healing process. We all need to figure out ways of dealing with psychotherapy, it'll go a long way to save addicts. I had a conversation with a friend who is related to a drug addict, she said they end up disagreeing with one another because she tries to caution the addict. I told her, the point is to have a good conversation with him, because the victim, also, thinks he's right. Building a relationship that'll make him want to be around us is very crucial. At least, someday we can chime in our thoughts slightly until he starts to think responsibly. These problems are not easily solved by the victim, it's not simple on their end. So, we must not rush them, that's why Psychologists tagged it as a long-term healing process.

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March 22, 2024, 12:59:13 PM
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     -   Because those gamblers who are chasing the loss have been carried away by their emotions, just by my observation. They chase because they may have lost or lost a lot,
and when that happens, it's a very difficult situation.

That's why having an addiction often leads to losing most of the time, but the loss of gamblers is not just for addicts; it happens to everyone. Even if you are a newbie here you can also
face lose, get it.

Exactly, I think It's not addiction that makes gamblers lose a lot of money. But, chasing losses to get big wins, is the problem faced. Many forum members gamble regularly, but they may not feel like they are losing much. Because even though they are also addicted to gambling, they don't prioritize to chasing losses they experienced. They focus on each gambling session so they remain within the limits of what they can do on every session. IMO

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March 22, 2024, 01:09:20 PM
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If the gambler has completely lost the value of money and control over himself, it is important to take urgent action. The first step is to seek help from a specialist in psychology or psychiatry to understand the causes of addiction. Next, you need to restrict access to money, for example, by asking your loved ones to control finances. It is also important to find an activity that will help distract you from gambling, for example, sports or creativity.

Do not hesitate to ask for help from relatives or professionals, because the health and well-being of the gambler is most important.

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March 22, 2024, 01:19:17 PM
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He said that he had nearly 64k dollars as a loss in the gambling site.In order to recover that 64k dollars,he keeps on betting from all his economic resources
Judging from this sentence, it seems like a loss is what makes someone 'forced' to become addicted to gambling. Usually they chase these losses in the hope of hitting a big jackpot on their small betting round. Meanwhile, this moment was very difficult to happen because his luck was not big enough.

The biggest possibility is that once he is able to take all his previous losses (although this is very unlikely), he will start winning profits there. And that doesn't mean he immediately quit the gambling industry, he wants to take bigger profits, including payment for his efforts in the gambling industry. Human nature is never satisfied with what it has and always wants to get more.
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Generally, addiction never gives us positive results but disastrous losses. Addiction can influence your thinking and behaviors which is usually a reason why we can no longer think of the right thing to do instead, most of the wrong decisions.

Gambling sites always remind us gamblers to gamble moderately they want us to become responsible despite the fact that they want to have more gamblers. Unfortunately, addiction still exists in gambling due to losing control of emotions which anyone could experience.
That's correct.
I am on the brink of gambling addiction myself but luckily I asked myself what the heck am I doing. That made me realize I was going the wrong way and somehow I got back in control.
It's truly loss after loss and I agree with what you said that it can influence our thinking. Mentally a gambling addict will think he can get back all those losses if he just keeps on playing but that is wrong. There's a chance you might not get it all back and the chance is way higher than what we are expecting.
Gambling sites need to make money and that means our chances to win are slim to hit a multiplier that will get us back to our initial balance. Casino games and slots especially, those games are obviously trying to rekt us using the house edge so I recommend playing sports betting instead.
That way, we are hitting two birds in one stone. We are avoiding the house edge and we are also not prone to addiction because sports are not played 24/7, unlike casino games. There's always a rest and we can do the same while waiting for our preferred game to happen.

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March 22, 2024, 01:29:54 PM
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Generally, addiction never gives us positive results but disastrous losses. Addiction can influence your thinking and behaviors which is usually a reason why we can no longer think of the right thing to do instead, most of the wrong decisions.

Gambling sites always remind us gamblers to gamble moderately they want us to become responsible despite the fact that they want to have more gamblers. Unfortunately, addiction still exists in gambling due to losing control of emotions which anyone could experience.
Taking in just enough is fun, taking in too often already starts having problems and taking in too much will cause many abnormal signs, this is how gambling as well as many other games work, a gambler who has only bet very little in the past has little to no history of losing while a more frequent player has shown signs of relative loss and on the other side, there are people who live and die by gambling every day. The casino's warnings only imply that they are following the law and have given advice, they show responsibility but they do not strongly prevent it, it is almost like the addiction only gets worse with each passing day.

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March 22, 2024, 01:31:55 PM
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but usually addicts think that what they are doing is right and they don't believe what anyone else says other than themselves. usually they will refuse various forms of help, even from professionals, which makes it very difficult to treat gambling addicts. so the initial approach that can be taken to treat the addict is to approach him with empathy and understand what he is feeling. then, after a while of this approach being carried out, professional help is brought in to be able to provide emotional assistance to the addict and at the same time to help him get out of his addiction.
When someone has become addicted, they will not be able to stop even if someone stops them or advises them because they feel right about the actions they are taking regarding gambling even though it is detrimental to themselves. It's true what you said, it's difficult to treat someone who is addicted because in my opinion what is sick is mental and their thoughts are not physical, because if they are physically sick they will definitely feel the pain and will treat it themselves.
If they are chronically addicted, maybe they really need help from someone who is professional in dealing with it, perhaps like a psychologist who is an expert in their field. Those who are addicted must of course be helped to get out of their addiction, because it is impossible for them to continue in that cycle. because it is a cycle that harms them financially or health-wise. especially if the person who is addicted is our own brother, I think we should help him to get out of the addiction that is detrimental to him.

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March 22, 2024, 07:04:39 PM
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but usually addicts think that what they are doing is right and they don't believe what anyone else says other than themselves. usually they will refuse various forms of help, even from professionals, which makes it very difficult to treat gambling addicts. so the initial approach that can be taken to treat the addict is to approach him with empathy and understand what he is feeling. then, after a while of this approach being carried out, professional help is brought in to be able to provide emotional assistance to the addict and at the same time to help him get out of his addiction.
When someone has become addicted, they will not be able to stop even if someone stops them or advises them because they feel right about the actions they are taking regarding gambling even though it is detrimental to themselves. It's true what you said, it's difficult to treat someone who is addicted because in my opinion what is sick is mental and their thoughts are not physical, because if they are physically sick they will definitely feel the pain and will treat it themselves.
If they are chronically addicted, maybe they really need help from someone who is professional in dealing with it, perhaps like a psychologist who is an expert in their field. Those who are addicted must of course be helped to get out of their addiction, because it is impossible for them to continue in that cycle. because it is a cycle that harms them financially or health-wise. especially if the person who is addicted is our own brother, I think we should help him to get out of the addiction that is detrimental to him.
When someone is addicted to gambling, advising them to quit is ineffective. Like shouting in a storm. Still, addiction is mental. War in the brain is more intricate than damaged bones. Although invisible, those scars and harm are eating them up

Help from professionals? The move is that. Just find someone who gets it. An addict speaks its language and knows its rhythm. Gambling may amuse and excite. When it changes and controls you, that's a red flag

With your brother and others, you must be proactive. Not a choice, but a duty. Show them their blind spots. Most importantly, guide them, not force them. Choose to quit that addiction. Long-ass fight with ups and downs, but also tiny successes. The grind will be real. What's worthwhile without a fight?

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March 22, 2024, 07:08:34 PM
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Whatever I will be suggesting to your friend for sure he won't listen. He didn't even listened to you when you've explained that he's addicted.

That's how it is going to be with those gamblers that are seriously addicted already. No suggestion will be good to them because what they are listening with is only themselves.

They can't admit that they're heavy gamblers and they're losing a lot and have been doing crazy things just to gamble.



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March 22, 2024, 07:52:32 PM
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Generally, addiction never gives us positive results but disastrous losses. Addiction can influence your thinking and behaviors which is usually a reason why we can no longer think of the right thing to do instead, most of the wrong decisions.

Gambling sites always remind us gamblers to gamble moderately they want us to become responsible despite the fact that they want to have more gamblers. Unfortunately, addiction still exists in gambling due to losing control of emotions which anyone could experience.
Taking in just enough is fun, taking in too often already starts having problems and taking in too much will cause many abnormal signs, this is how gambling as well as many other games work, a gambler who has only bet very little in the past has little to no history of losing while a more frequent player has shown signs of relative loss and on the other side, there are people who live and die by gambling every day. The casino's warnings only imply that they are following the law and have given advice, they show responsibility but they do not strongly prevent it, it is almost like the addiction only gets worse with each passing day.

Yes but not everyone comes with the goal of fun so they don't take things in moderation and instead prioritize overdoing it, but on the other hand yes what you said is true that this is how gambling works but overall I think we have to admit that the aggressive gamblers who are on the wrong and unadvisable path are more than the gamblers who stay and maintain a safe zone that can make them avoid unwanted possibilities.

One of the reasons I think it's obvious is that most gamblers can't afford to ignore the chances of winning, I understand that everyone wants to win but the problem is that they take the pursuit of winning too seriously so that in the end the situation is reversed where they end up losing a large amount of money but that's natural because after all gambling is not an activity that should be taken seriously.

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March 22, 2024, 08:15:55 PM
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I think gambling is a controllable addiction because I can control myself, but some people cannot control themselves, 
If you can control addiction it means you are not addicted. Addiction is not something that is easy that can be controlled. People who are addicted to gambling battles with it because it is something that is beyond their control.  The reason why people get into addicted in gambling is because they do not know their limits of playing gambling,  and this get them addicted that they battle to stop when they are affected by gambling lose but it seems so difficult for them to come out of their addiction.

One of the sad thing getting addicted is that people who for into gambling addiction,  they do not know they are getting addicted because they have giving their all to gambling.

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