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This means that buying at the time when the price is on the increase is not wisdom

I disagree with you and if I may ask when do you think the price of Bitcoin will increase? Doesn't it mean that if Bitcoin should surge or skyrocket to $500k investing in it will be lack of wisdom?. An investor doesn't care if the price of Bitcoin is increasing or not because the DCA method is there for them to accumulate Bitcoin whether increase or decrease and i want to believe this statement is for people that trade Bitcoin and not for investor because investor doesn't have any problem with Bitcoin increasing rather it is only traders that does because they only focus on entering at the low price and hoping to sell when it appreciate.

I agree with you, an investor doesn't care about the price of the bitcoin before they invest because there is a method that can be used without feeling any pressure about when the price increase or decrease, anyone thinking about the price of bitcoin before investing will find it difficult to buy bitcoin because they will always want the price to drop before investing, and that will affect them because no one knows when the price will drop, the price of bitcoin is unpredictable,  the price can drop at any time or rise at any time.

The DCA method has shown to be the ideal way for investors to accumulate bitcoin without having to wait for the perfect time to buy bitcoin, only those who don’t understand bitcoin will choose to wait for the right moment before buying bitcoin.

And this is why the DCA method is considered the best and most effective method for investing in Bitcoin, an investor should never wait for the right time to start investing in Bitcoin, because he will never find the right time, but as a result he will only miss more opportunities. The right decision is to invest consistently, regardless of the market fluctuations. if you wait for buy a little dip, then you will miss more better opportunities to buy, because you will wait for the price to decrease, but the price will rise even higher, and this is the volatility and uncertainty of Bitcoin, so such decisions should never be made, be consistent in investing without worrying too much about unexpected market fluctuations, then the portfolio will continue to grow in the most advantageous way.

[ZeroVinsonN]

they can also decide depending on the cash they have or an extra money which comes in to use it to lump sum. More so, if an investor accumulates a reasonable large portion of bitcoin and hold over time then there’s nothing wrong if he chooses to buy the dip, and that’s why dip buying is not for newbie investors because there’s every tendency that they will wait until its dip before they can accumulate bitcoin, which of course is a very wrong investment approach for them.

You're just mixing everything up, the fact is a low coiner or a no coiner is not supposed to wait for dip to occur before attempting to buy, as a newbie is advised to stick to the DCA. while going with this method there's every tendency that you will meet a good buying opportunity then you can use that opportunity to front load your investment instead of wasting the whole time, i agree with you when you said that there's nothing wrong if a guy chooses to buy the dip, but this approach is supposed to be applied when they must have reach the status of overaccumulation and not when they're still struggling to reach thier investment goal because going with this approach when you have not stack enough bitcoin in your portfolio is like a waste of time.

The DCA makes more sense as an investment strategy for a newbie, I completely agree with that but that doesn't mean they can't use any other strategy to invest with just like how JayJuanGee pointed out. It's really a matter of choice and how much money you have available to you at the end of the day, sure a newbie waiting for the DIP is a very terrible thing to do and should definitely be avoided so as to not put the newbie is a spot where they ultimately end up waiting for a dip that doesn't happen and not invest in bitcoin again in the long run so sticking to the DCA is good for a newbie and any other type of investor even, but lump sum is also good to accumulate alot of bitcoin in a short period of time if there is available fund to back it up and even buy a dip whenever it ends up coming you way as well, or are you saying I shouldn't buy at a DIP just because I haven't gotten to the stage of over-accumulation yet?? That doesn't make much sense to me since I can buy that DIP if it comes and still continue my DCAing in peace so if someone wants to add a different strategy to their DCA strategy then they can as long as they understand when they are doing.

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I agree with you. Actually, no one can say exactly when the price of Bitcoin will be low or high. So, instead of waiting for the price to drop, we should start investing by following the DCA regularly.In 2017, when the price of Bitcoin reached from $1000 to $20000, many people waited for the price to drop again, but since then the price of Bitcoin has never come close to 1000 to 2000 dollars, so they missed the opportunity and those who did not invest at that time remained as no-coiner  or low-coiner .According to the DCA method, We don't need a lot of money to invest in Bitcoin. If you have a discretionary income and a mentality of investing for a minimum of 4 to 10 years, then it is possible to get a lot of profit even if you invest $10 to $50 per week. According to a report, if someone had invested $10 a week for the past five years from 2024 august, their total investment would have been around $2,620 and they would have made a total profit of $7,913.20 from their investment, which is around 202.03% return.

So imagine how much more profit they would have made if they hade been investing $100 every week for that 5 year, that's how much potential we can find in bitcoin investment but all of this is only possible when we go long term for at least 1 cycle (the more cycles the better) you don't see short term traders coming out with profit margins like this, instead you see reports of their losses and you see them talking about how the would have made excess profit if they had just done this or that, a confused set of people really. And for some of them the refusal to accept that their method is wrong for bitcoin investment has led to to remain no-coiners till date because they are just too proud to move past their narrow narrative and come to terms with the fact that good success in bitcoin can only come through long term investment.

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Once a person reaches overaccumulation status then he might choose to pause any new buying, and he might have a period where he is neither buying or selling, and perhaps once he starts to withdraw, then if the dollar value of his bitcoin holdings is growing faster than his withdrawal rate then he does not need to keep buying..

Do we need to give an example?

It is optional to keep buying once a guy reaches overaccumulation status, and sure he might make mistakes and come to conclude that he is in overaccumulation status and he is not.  He also might not really know what overaccumulation status is, so if he does not know, then he is also more likely to make mistakes.

I would think that if someone spends 4-10 years or longer accumulating bitcoin, he might be able to develop skills so that he is able to assess when he has reached overaccumulation status. 

I would think that the more common mistakes in bitcoin are related to guys failing to accumulate enough or selling too soon or not really knowing how to manage their bitcoin holdings so that they can sustainably hang onto it, so sure I can see why guys might be nervous about making sure that they have enough bitcoin or more than enough, since guys are likely to make mistakes because they will come to believe that it is good to draw down the principle when it is probably better to withdraw in a way that is less than the rate that the bitcoin is growing in value.. and yeah, guys may also disagree about these ideas about how much bitcoin to accumulate and when they can transition into being able to sell their bitcoin.

I get what you mean, Overaccumulation isn’t some fixed number, it’s more like a personal decision depending on the person's needs and comfort level. For example, let’s say someone has built up enough bitcoin over 8–10 years, and their holdings are growing at around 8–10% or more a year. If they’re only withdrawing about 3% to 5% a year for expenses, then technically their bitcoin stash is still growing even while they are already living off of it, so they don’t really need to keep buying although they can continue if they want to. The tricky part, like you said, is that people sometimes misjudge where they are, some stop too early thinking they’ve already made it and later regret it, while others never feel like they’ve reached enough and just keep stacking/accumulating forever. Honestly, the bigger mistakes usually happen earlier on like selling too soon or not accumulating enough during those early cycles like the first and second one.
At the end of the day, it comes down to experience and discipline. The longer someone has been accumulating bitcoin, the easier it gets for them to judge when they have crossed into that overaccumulation territory and shift their mindset from pure accumulation to careful management.

[andywolfer]

That’s the classic crypto dilemma — nobody can time the market perfectly. Prices move fast, and it’s easy to feel like you bought too high or sold too early. The key is having a plan: if you believe in a coin long-term, dips are buy opportunities; if you’re just looking for short-term flips, you need strict targets and stop-losses.

As for “buy or sell right now,” it really depends on your risk tolerance and horizon — the market is very volatile, so for most people, gradual buying (dollar-cost averaging) is safer than trying to guess the exact moment.

👉 Do you see yourself as more of a long-term holder or a short-term trader?

[Zackz5000]

That’s the classic crypto dilemma — nobody can time the market perfectly. Prices move fast, and it’s easy to feel like you bought too high or sold too early. The key is having a plan: if you believe in a coin long-term, dips are buy opportunities; if you’re just looking for short-term flips, you need strict targets and stop-losses.

As for “buy or sell right now,” it really depends on your risk tolerance and horizon — the market is very volatile, so for most people, gradual buying (dollar-cost averaging) is safer than trying to guess the exact moment.

👉 Do you see yourself as more of a long-term holder or a short-term trader?

What coin are you even talking about if you don't know we are discussing Bitcoin here and not just coin as you have mention, reading through one won't be able to get the particular coin your emphasizing on you can call Bitcoin or shitcoins and not just coin or crypto.

Investing in Bitcoin you should plan for a long term if you have a discretionary income you can start accumulating Bitcoin and hodl for long with the dollar cost averaging strategy you can be accumulating Bitcoin fraction by fraction either weekly or every months and hodl for 4-10 instead of selling for a short time or been a Bitcoin trader Bitcoin should be accumulated and hodl for long.

[Grace333]

This means that buying at the time when the price is on the increase is not wisdom

I disagree with you and if I may ask when do you think the price of Bitcoin will increase? Doesn't it mean that if Bitcoin should surge or skyrocket to $500k investing in it will be lack of wisdom?. An investor doesn't care if the price of Bitcoin is increasing or not because the DCA method is there for them to accumulate Bitcoin whether increase or decrease and i want to believe this statement is for people that trade Bitcoin and not for investor because investor doesn't have any problem with Bitcoin increasing rather it is only traders that does because they only focus on entering at the low price and hoping to sell when it appreciate.

I agree with you, an investor doesn't care about the price of the bitcoin before they invest because there is a method that can be used without feeling any pressure about when the price increase or decrease, anyone thinking about the price of bitcoin before investing will find it difficult to buy bitcoin because they will always want the price to drop before investing, and that will affect them because no one knows when the price will drop, the price of bitcoin is unpredictable,  the price can drop at any time or rise at any time.

The DCA method has shown to be the ideal way for investors to accumulate bitcoin without having to wait for the perfect time to buy bitcoin, only those who don’t understand bitcoin will choose to wait for the right moment before buying bitcoin.

Yeah bro, a lot of people keep delaying because they are always waiting for that so called perfect dip, but truth is, Bitcoin doesn’t move according to anyone timing. If you keep waiting, you will most likely end up with nothing, because by the time you think the price will drop, it might actually pump even higher.
That is where DCA really makes sense, it takes away the pressure of trying to predict every move, and it helps you keep stacking bit by bit without stressing about timing. it’s not about buying at the absolute lowest price, it is about actually being in the market and holding long enough to enjoy the bigger growth..

[nfuorus]

You're indirectly talking about buying only dips here, newbies aren't supposed to be encouraged to buy simply because there's a presumed dip but should get started and continue buying regardless of the market price movement. For a good discipline, as long as newbies are sure they have discretionary income present,

It will never be logical to just wait for a fall. Rather, it will be a waste of time and lack of confidence. A new investor should never be encouraged to fall. Buy from the current market price, but keep the investment management consistent even through the DCA strategy.

If there is a fall while your investment is consistent, try to buy more units from prudent income.

And keep an emergency fund and backup fund along with the investment. The emergency fund will be your danger companion that will save you from sudden danger.

Follow the DCA strategy while investing in the first stage. And try to increase the portfolio slowly. This will make your investment sound and risk-free.

So after the first stage the investor should discard using the DCA method is that what you are saying? While I agree some of the things you said here, I quite find this particular statement I highlighted troublesome. As an investor, I don't think there should be a stage you should discard using the DCA method if you want to get most out of your accumulation journey. Utilise the DCA method from the beginning to the end of your accumulation phase and you will derive more value in your portfolio.

Well there's a stage you don't need DCA strategy anymore that stage is when you have reached a fuck you stage, in this stage you have already accumulated enough Bitcoin and you can even decide not to work anymore and your accumulated Bitcoin can serve as your source of income and you can use it to settle basic needs, at this stage you can only be accumulating Bitcoin when Bitcoin dips.
Apart from this stage there's no time you should stop using DCA strategy because DCA strategy is one of the best strategy for Bitcoin investment, DCA strategy helps you be consistent and fast in your accumulation journey.

I think every investor have the privilege to decide to switch or mix his accumulation pattern which understandably suits his own cash flows at any point in time. Although it’s pertinent that a newbie investor should be able to accumulate and invest regularly with the DCA method of accumulation either weekly or monthly, but at some point, they can also decide depending on the cash they have or an extra money which comes in to use it to lump sum. More so, if an investor accumulates a reasonable large portion of bitcoin and hold over time then there’s nothing wrong if he chooses to buy the dip, and that’s why dip buying is not for newbie investors because there’s every tendency that they will wait until its dip before they can accumulate bitcoin, which of course is a very wrong investment approach for them.

That is actually the mistake most of we newbie made when we just getting started. Sitting around waiting for that perfect dip, I was also lured to do that at one point, but thank God I found this forum and in the end we miss out because the market doesn’t move exactly how I was told it would. That is why the DCA method is such a lifesaver, it makes me consistent, no matter what the price is saying.
With time, once someone has already built up a solid bag and understands the market better, then yeah, buying dips can be a good strategy. But relying only on dips from the start is risky, because it means you are always waiting instead of actually building. I would say the smartest approach is knowing your own cash flow and finding a pattern that works without putting yourself under pressure..

[POPOLUV]

Are you now saying that in the fuck you stage all you have to be doing is just taking of profit to settle your basic needs because you have gotten to your over accumulation stage you should take a break from investing and only spend? No that is not right because your investment will not be increasing but reducing, because you are not adding, then do do people even the rich still work daily to earn more more if all they have can sustain them through it their life time, this is a wrong mindset and mentality because you can end up becoming a low or not coiner within a short period of time because you are just spending and not adding up to your investment.

Using the dca strategy is good at all stages even if you have gotten to your over accumulation stage than waiting for the dip before buying, at least it will help you remain regular  in accumulation, I see it as even more easier at this stage because it will be more stress less than ever, the dip might be more expensive tat your set aside funds for it.

It is advisable not to stop accumulating even if you have gotten to your over accumulation stage  because you don't know what will happen next, since your basic expenses might just be outrageous at anytime .

Once a person reaches overaccumulation status then he might choose to pause any new buying, and he might have a period where he is neither buying or selling, and perhaps once he starts to withdraw, then if the dollar value of his bitcoin holdings is growing faster than his withdrawal rate then he does not need to keep buying..

Do we need to give an example?

It is optional to keep buying once a guy reaches overaccumulation status, and sure he might make mistakes and come to conclude that he is in overaccumulation status and he is not.  He also might not really know what overaccumulation status is, so if he does not know, then he is also more likely to make mistakes.

This is really a good phase that will happen to investor since it will lessen up the pressure of thinking about they should buy more Bitcoin since for reaching that level is like they have freedom to choose whether they continue buy now or just relax then do this later since they already hit their targets.

But I would rather choose to buy more since for many good things happened in terms of adoption and recognition. My confidence level goes high that I can use Bitcoin for retirement, that's why I continue accumulating then let see if I could able to hit that goal without getting bothered by future events, but most likely will not since I know Bitcoin is good asset to hold.

That is a wonderful idea big man, i really abide to your idea of coming to conclusions of using Bitcoin portfolio as your retirement benefits, and i believe that with years of accumulation in your Bitcoin portfolio you have been able to accumulate enough Bitcoin that if your year of retirement approach you will not lack anything more again, because you have been able to archive a wonderful asset that can still grow while you have retired, i blame myself for not making the right decision of acquiring a knowledge that could have keep me pushing in accumulating aggressively when i had a better opportunity but never the less is never too late to start buying as i have amended my mistakes of not buying in early twenties, if actually every one can grab this opportunity of retiring with Bitcoin, such a person has fullfil everything has to do life.

[Silikiem]

That’s the classic crypto dilemma — nobody can time the market perfectly. Prices move fast, and it’s easy to feel like you bought too high or sold too early. The key is having a plan: if you believe in a coin long-term, dips are buy opportunities; if you’re just looking for short-term flips, you need strict targets and stop-losses.

As for “buy or sell right now,” it really depends on your risk tolerance and horizon — the market is very volatile, so for most people, gradual buying (dollar-cost averaging) is safer than trying to guess the exact moment.

👉 Do you see yourself as more of a long-term holder or a short-term trader?

@andywolfer, I think it will be more measurable and meaningful if you should be more specific with your choice of words while referring to Bitcoin. Not just crypto or any coin, but simply say ”bitcoin” which of course is the discussion of the thread. When you say coin or crypto, it seems to imply any shitcoin and is capable of misleading or contradicting the narrative of Bitcoin.
Of course you’re right when you say no body can time the bitcoin market perfectly, it’s unpredictable, and that’s what makes it a highly volatile asset with so much value and potential. People can only speculate, but can not predict accurately what the price will be in the next seconds. As a newbie investor, timing the market before accumulating bitcoin is a wrong investment approach which is capable of turning you into a trader who’s in for quick profit making and you’ll panic to sell whenever you notice a little downturn in the market price. More so, timing the market before accumulating and investing in bitcoin will make you miss out on several investment opportunities and that time you’re waiting to always time the market would have been used to accumulate a reasonable amount of bitcoin stash and gradually build up your portfolio and hold for the long term goal. The DCA strategy have made it looks pretty easy and swift to regularly accumulate bitcoins either weekly or monthly depending on how your income flows, and hold for the long term goal no matter the price and no matter your financial position weather low coiner or not. All you need is to be able to figure out a discretionary income and accumulate bitcoin and hold for the long term goal and gradually build up your portfolio.

[Sim_card]

That’s the classic crypto dilemma — nobody can time the market perfectly. Prices move fast, and it’s easy to feel like you bought too high or sold too early. The key is having a plan: if you believe in a coin long-term , dips are buy opportunities; if you’re just looking for short-term flips, you need strict targets and stop-losses.

Did you just say a coin, which means that any coin. Nah... Shitcoins are not the same as bitcoin and will never have the uniqueness and potential of bitcoin. This is the main reason why you should only think bitcoin and nothing more in the cryptospace because only bitcoin is worth to invest into and hodli for a long-term because it's a store of value overtime and a hedge to inflation. Shitcoins are the opposite of bitcoin as they will bring pains, frustration and regrets if you buy them because they're for gambling and not an investment.

As for “buy or sell right now,” it really depends on your risk tolerance and horizon — the market is very volatile, so for most people, gradual buying (dollar-cost averaging) is safer than trying to guess the exact moment.

👉 Do you see yourself as more of a long-term holder or a short-term trader?

Traders are the same with shitcoiners because they will become losers in the long run for trying to play smart with the market wave. A new investor should only choose a long-term investment plan and stay focus on building his bitcoin portfolio for 4-10 years and till he reaches his bitcoin target through his ongoing weekly DCA overtime. If you sell because of little profit, you will end up as a low coiner in future when bitcoin price will be very expensive and you will regret gambling your bitcoin through trading.

Trading and buying shitcoin is the wrong path for anyone in the cryptospace. So choose your path wisely.

[gracreavix]

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Perhaps the strongest point here is that Bitcoin stands in a category of its own, so comparing it with other coins often misses the bigger picture. Even if people try to use past charts to predict the future, markets don’t move in straight lines, and relying only on history can set investors up for panic when volatility strikes. Because Bitcoin is decentralized and outside the control of banks or governments, no one can dictate its shortterm direction. What really matters is understanding the fundamentals scarcity, adoption, and resilienceand then having the patience to hold through the noise. In that sense, long term conviction matters far more than trying to guess the next move based on yesterday’s patterns.

Investors who think differently and have the mental fortitude to remain confident in Bitcoin will never be swayed by short-term predictions or be intimidated by the volatility that often plagues the market. This is evident in the number of investors who remain in Bitcoin and the continued increase in new investors, driven by the influence of scarcity, adoption, and resilience. So, we all need not be afraid or doubtful about Bitcoin because it is on a different path than all other coins, making it unworthy of comparison. Other coins lack the scarcity, adoption, and resilience of Bitcoin.

Now is still a good time for new investors to continue buying Bitcoin before the price rises again to its highest price this month. Because in the long term, Bitcoin consistently performs best throughout its market cycles, and this has also been experienced by long-time investors who have held Bitcoin for a long time and have never grown weary of sticking with it forever.

The ones who stay confident in Bitcoin aren’t shaken by the daily ups and downs. History keeps showing us the same thing, exercising patience pays. Bitcoin is different from every other coin because of its scarcity and adoption, so comparing it with altcoins doesn’t really make sense.....My advice is  for new investors, the best move isn’t trying to time the market perfectly but to stay consistent. Long term holders have already proven how rewarding that can be.

[Victorybit1]

That’s the classic crypto dilemma — nobody can time the market perfectly. Prices move fast, and it’s easy to feel like you bought too high or sold too early. The key is having a plan: if you believe in a coin long-term , dips are buy opportunities; if you’re just looking for short-term flips, you need strict targets and stop-losses.

Did you just say a coin, which means that any coin. Nah... Shitcoins are not the same as bitcoin and will never have the uniqueness and potential of bitcoin. This is the main reason why you should only think bitcoin and nothing more in the cryptospace because only bitcoin is worth to invest into and hodli for a long-term because it's a store of value overtime and a hedge to inflation. Shitcoins are the opposite of bitcoin as they will bring pains, frustration and regrets if you buy them because they're for gambling and not an investment.

As for “buy or sell right now,” it really depends on your risk tolerance and horizon — the market is very volatile, so for most people, gradual buying (dollar-cost averaging) is safer than trying to guess the exact moment.

👉 Do you see yourself as more of a long-term holder or a short-term trader?

Traders are the same with shitcoiners because they will become losers in the long run for trying to play smart with the market wave. A new investor should only choose a long-term investment plan and stay focus on building his bitcoin portfolio for 4-10 years and till he reaches his bitcoin target through his ongoing weekly DCA overtime. If you sell because of little profit, you will end up as a low coiner in future when bitcoin price will be very expensive and you will regret gambling your bitcoin through trading.

Trading and buying shitcoin is the wrong path for anyone in the cryptospace. So choose your path wisely.

Some persons are impatient and they always prefer the short route to grow their investment that's why they choose to gamble with their Bitcoin because I feel anyone that trades his coin is practically gambling with his portfolio and might possibly end up at the losing end. It's always better to take the motive to start and choose a long term investment plan with your Bitcoin investments since their is high certainty that your growth will be massive and guaranteed for a time frame of about 5years plus.

[Makus]

This means that buying at the time when the price is on the increase is not wisdom

I disagree with you and if I may ask when do you think the price of Bitcoin will increase? Doesn't it mean that if Bitcoin should surge or skyrocket to $500k investing in it will be lack of wisdom?. An investor doesn't care if the price of Bitcoin is increasing or not because the DCA method is there for them to accumulate Bitcoin whether increase or decrease and i want to believe this statement is for people that trade Bitcoin and not for investor because investor doesn't have any problem with Bitcoin increasing rather it is only traders that does because they only focus on entering at the low price and hoping to sell when it appreciate.

I agree with you, an investor doesn't care about the price of the bitcoin before they invest because there is a method that can be used without feeling any pressure about when the price increase or decrease, anyone thinking about the price of bitcoin before investing will find it difficult to buy bitcoin because they will always want the price to drop before investing, and that will affect them because no one knows when the price will drop, the price of bitcoin is unpredictable,  the price can drop at any time or rise at any time.

The DCA method has shown to be the ideal way for investors to accumulate bitcoin without having to wait for the perfect time to buy bitcoin, only those who don’t understand bitcoin will choose to wait for the right moment before buying bitcoin.

Yeah bro, a lot of people keep delaying because they are always waiting for that so called perfect dip, but truth is, Bitcoin doesn’t move according to anyone timing. If you keep waiting, you will most likely end up with nothing, because by the time you think the price will drop, it might actually pump even higher.
That is where DCA really makes sense, it takes away the pressure of trying to predict every move, and it helps you keep stacking bit by bit without stressing about timing. it’s not about buying at the absolute lowest price, it is about actually being in the market and holding long enough to enjoy the bigger growth..

truth of the matter is if we are planing on holding for long term then buying the dip shouldn't be a major concern or thee reasson we are still holding back because with bitcoin's volatility we never know what the next few weeks holds but if we look from a wider time frame probably from years ago and the current price we cab clearly see that bitcoin is still mounting stong but then there are still some short term dips and retraceements.
those who have issues with timing the market for dips can adopt the DCA strategy if other strategy makes then miss out, with DCA you can actually buy at all price level and still remain comfortable with the result provided your intentons are long term hold. though one can still employ the use of mixing two or more strategies like combining DCA and buying the dip, by contantly using DCA to accumulate and increase the buying power probably when there is a retracement, but the most important thing is, we keep an accumulation plan.

[De seer1]

This means that buying at the time when the price is on the increase is not wisdom

I disagree with you and if I may ask when do you think the price of Bitcoin will increase? Doesn't it mean that if Bitcoin should surge or skyrocket to $500k investing in it will be lack of wisdom?. An investor doesn't care if the price of Bitcoin is increasing or not because the DCA method is there for them to accumulate Bitcoin whether increase or decrease and i want to believe this statement is for people that trade Bitcoin and not for investor because investor doesn't have any problem with Bitcoin increasing rather it is only traders that does because they only focus on entering at the low price and hoping to sell when it appreciate.

I agree with you, an investor doesn't care about the price of the bitcoin before they invest because there is a method that can be used without feeling any pressure about when the price increase or decrease, anyone thinking about the price of bitcoin before investing will find it difficult to buy bitcoin because they will always want the price to drop before investing, and that will affect them because no one knows when the price will drop, the price of bitcoin is unpredictable,  the price can drop at any time or rise at any time.

The DCA method has shown to be the ideal way for investors to accumulate bitcoin without having to wait for the perfect time to buy bitcoin, only those who don’t understand bitcoin will choose to wait for the right moment before buying bitcoin.

And this is why the DCA method is considered the best and most effective method for investing in Bitcoin, an investor should never wait for the right time to start investing in Bitcoin, because he will never find the right time, but as a result he will only miss more opportunities. The right decision is to invest consistently, regardless of the market fluctuations. if you wait for buy a little dip, then you will miss more better opportunities to buy, because you will wait for the price to decrease, but the price will rise even higher, and this is the volatility and uncertainty of Bitcoin, so such decisions should never be made, be consistent in investing without worrying too much about unexpected market fluctuations, then the portfolio will continue to grow in the most advantageous way.

I agree with you , anyone that invest on bitcoin should have it on his back of his mind that no one can actually predict when the price of Bitcoin will escalate or decreases, as a good investors. waiting for the increase in the market cycle to get is increase is not really an option, will should move on investing using DCA method, some years ago when Bitcoin hit really good they forget that time was perfect to harvest their profit, since then the price of Bitcoin has really never be determine.

[ruykeri]

Some persons are impatient and they always prefer the short route to grow their investment that's why they choose to gamble with their Bitcoin because I feel anyone that trades his coin is practically gambling with his portfolio and might possibly end up at the losing end. It's always better to take the motive to start and choose a long term investment plan with your Bitcoin investments since their is high certainty that your growth will be massive and guaranteed for a time frame of about 5years plus.

If you invest for a long time, that is, 4 to 10 years or more, then the chances of making a profit are very high. However, we can never guarantee when it comes to investing in Bitcoin because no one can accurately predict what the price of Bitcoin will be in the future. However, we can tell from past statistics that the price of Bitcoin increases several times over a long period of time.  However, one thing that can be noticed by analyzing past data is that the longer you invest in Bitcoin and hold it, the greater the potential for profit. For example, in early 2020, the selling price was around $8,000. Later, the price reached an all-time high of $60,000/BTC at the end of 2021. But since then, the price of btc has started to decline and increase  more and less, but since 2024, the price of the bitcoin has increased and exceeded $100k.

https://charts.bitbo.io/price/
So if someone had invested for four years, from 2020 to early 2024, they would have made much less profit based on the current Bitcoin price, but if he had extended their Bitcoin investment period, they would have made much more profit today.  It is clearly understood here that the price of Bitcoin can increase significantly in just a year or months, so the more patiently you can invest, the more likely you are to profit from Bitcoin.

[Nightwatchmare]

You're indirectly talking about buying only dips here, newbies aren't supposed to be encouraged to buy simply because there's a presumed dip but should get started and continue buying regardless of the market price movement. For a good discipline, as long as newbies are sure they have discretionary income present,

It will never be logical to just wait for a fall. Rather, it will be a waste of time and lack of confidence. A new investor should never be encouraged to fall. Buy from the current market price, but keep the investment management consistent even through the DCA strategy.

If there is a fall while your investment is consistent, try to buy more units from prudent income.

And keep an emergency fund and backup fund along with the investment. The emergency fund will be your danger companion that will save you from sudden danger.

Follow the DCA strategy while investing in the first stage. And try to increase the portfolio slowly. This will make your investment sound and risk-free.

So after the first stage the investor should discard using the DCA method is that what you are saying? While I agree some of the things you said here, I quite find this particular statement I highlighted troublesome. As an investor, I don't think there should be a stage you should discard using the DCA method if you want to get most out of your accumulation journey. Utilise the DCA method from the beginning to the end of your accumulation phase and you will derive more value in your portfolio.

I quite agree with you. We should never discard the DCA method at some point in our accumulation process because the DCA method gives us the opportunity to gradually accumulate a good quantity of Bitcoin over time. But if we discard the DCA method at some point in our accumulation process, we will need a big amount of money to buy Bitcoin with the lump sum method before we can accumulate a good quantity of Bitcoin, and if we don't have a good discretionary income that would allow us to buy a good quantity of Bitcoin with the lump sum method, we are going to miss out on accumulating a good quantity of Bitcoin. Instead of us to discard the DCA strategy in our accumulation process, we can make use of the various Bitcoin accumulation methods to accumulate Bitcoin.

[durg0319]

Yeah bro, a lot of people keep delaying because they are always waiting for that so called perfect dip, but truth is, Bitcoin doesn’t move according to anyone timing. If you keep waiting, you will most likely end up with nothing, because by the time you think the price will drop, it might actually pump even higher.
That is where DCA really makes sense, it takes away the pressure of trying to predict every move, and it helps you keep stacking bit by bit without stressing about timing. it’s not about buying at the absolute lowest price, it is about actually being in the market and holding long enough to enjoy the bigger growth..

Facts, bro. Too many people miss out because they want to catch that perfect dip, but in reality nobody can time Bitcoin perfectly. The best move is consistency, DCA keeps you in the game without stress, and over time those little stacks build into something big. At the end of the day, it’s not about being the smartest trader, it’s about having the discipline to stay in and let Bitcoin do its thing.

[Umulala-alala]

That is actually the mistake most of we newbie made when we just getting started. Sitting around waiting for that perfect dip, I was also lured to do that at one point, but thank God I found this forum and in the end we miss out because the market doesn’t move exactly how I was told it would. That is why the DCA method is such a lifesaver, it makes me consistent, no matter what the price is saying.
With time, once someone has already built up a solid bag and understands the market better, then yeah, buying dips can be a good strategy. But relying only on dips from the start is risky, because it means you are always waiting instead of actually building. I would say the smartest approach is knowing your own cash flow and finding a pattern that works without putting yourself under pressure..

New investor shouldn't be waiting for the dip before buying bitcoin because they are still fresh in the market and need to be buying consistently, those who has reached their over accumulation stage can choose to buy during the dip since they will be buying on a lower price.

Waiting for a desire dip can get you discourage not to get started with your bitcoin investment because your expected dip may not come you can procastinate and later end up not buying bitcoin and regret in the future when other who invested will be jubilating, secondly waiting for the dip can only get you little bitcoin in your portfolio.

With the dca strategy a new investor won't be waiting for a dip before buying as you can be buying as you can using your discretionary income and also with any price of bitcoin dip or high either every weeks or every months and hodl for long and buy more when the dip comes it's far more better than waiting for the dip before you can buy bitcoin.

[Showlove01]

Yeah bro, a lot of people keep delaying because they are always waiting for that so called perfect dip, but truth is, Bitcoin doesn’t move according to anyone timing. If you keep waiting, you will most likely end up with nothing, because by the time you think the price will drop, it might actually pump even higher.
That is where DCA really makes sense, it takes away the pressure of trying to predict every move, and it helps you keep stacking bit by bit without stressing about timing. it’s not about buying at the absolute lowest price, it is about actually being in the market and holding long enough to enjoy the bigger growth..

Facts, bro. Too many people miss out because they want to catch that perfect dip, but in reality nobody can time Bitcoin perfectly. The best move is consistency, DCA keeps you in the game without stress, and over time those little stacks build into something big. At the end of the day, it’s not about being the smartest trader, it’s about having the discipline to stay in and let Bitcoin do its thing.

Sad enough there is nothing like a perfect Dip in Bitcoin investment and it is folks that just forge that and be deceiving theirselve and at same time wasting opportunity to use an accumulate Bitcoin by waiting for what they call perfect Dip. Someone who is serious and knows what is ahead will accumulate Bitcoin with all willingness. Those who are waiting for the so called perfect Dip sometimes they realize themselves and start accumulating and sometimes they don't... and opportunities will pass them by because of ignorant.

[Jostern]

Yeah bro, a lot of people keep delaying because they are always waiting for that so called perfect dip, but truth is, Bitcoin doesn’t move according to anyone timing. If you keep waiting, you will most likely end up with nothing, because by the time you think the price will drop, it might actually pump even higher.
That is where DCA really makes sense, it takes away the pressure of trying to predict every move, and it helps you keep stacking bit by bit without stressing about timing. it’s not about buying at the absolute lowest price, it is about actually being in the market and holding long enough to enjoy the bigger growth..

Facts, bro. Too many people miss out because they want to catch that perfect dip, but in reality nobody can time Bitcoin perfectly. The best move is consistency, DCA keeps you in the game without stress, and over time those little stacks build into something big. At the end of the day, it’s not about being the smartest trader, it’s about having the discipline to stay in and let Bitcoin do its thing.

There is nothing like a perfect dip, a dip is a dip, maybe you’re expecting Bitcoin to fall into unimaginable numbers, which I don’t know when you might experience this number, but for the main time I would advise you against waiting for a perfect dip because you might eventually not get what you’re expecting, which is why it’s more important you keep buying bitcoin on a consistent and regular basis, as a newbie and a pleb who wants to stay firm and consistent in buying bitcoin should always realize that, the waiting game would never be efficient for longevity in terms of holding bitcoin for 4-10years intervals.

Which is why as a pleb, I have decided to continue buying and accumulating bitcoin not considering what could happen in Bitcoin market, and I have tried to stay away from any irregularities.

[Stable090]

Sad enough there is nothing like a perfect Dip in Bitcoin investment and it is folks that just forge that and be deceiving theirselve and at same time wasting opportunity to use an accumulate Bitcoin by waiting for what they call perfect Dip.

If you are a investor, and you waiting for perfect dip, then maybe you not just ready to invest in bitcoin, because if you really want to invest, I don’t think you will be waiting for perfect dip, I don’t even know what people mean by perfect dip, because all I know about bitcoin investment is that you can never catch the bottom. If anyone tells me they are waiting for perfect dip, then automatically I see that the person is not really ready to invest.

If you want to invest, then make use of DCA strategy, you can just keep on accumulating bitcoin gradually, but you don’t have to wait for bitcoin to dump before you going to buy, if you waiting for dip, then you not serious.