Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Futurexxx]

. This means that most people that engage in buying dips only also hardly hold for a long time. The sell off whenever they feel it has risen to their taste to give them their desired profit while they sit back and wait for another dip.

I think you are actually wrong to have such thought, not all investors that buys the dip that sell once Bitcoin rises in value, some buys with the intention of holding for a very long time regardless of what the value of Bitcoin does during those years, the only problem of buying only the dip is it requires you to wait for it which I sees as a bad idea, because you may never buy at all since the dip you may be look for may never come, and you are going to miss that buying opportunity.

If @Agbam compares it to buying shitcoins, then technically speaking, he is not completely wrong. Shitcoiners buy in order to sell more quickly when their hope is met (price increase),

Buying Bitcoin can never be compared with buying shit coin buddy, buying shit coin is completely gambling and you may likely get burnt if the market makes a sharp you turn on your investment, so buying Bitcoin wether it's a dip or not can never be compared with buying shit coin that are pure gambling.

[gracreavix]

Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

Yes, that's a good idea to combine the two, because sometimes when there is a drop in the price of BTC, we always want to buy more BTC, so of course the DCA technique still works and the lump sum technique also works. Honestly, I personally always use that technique and of course everything goes smoothly.

In my opinion, all BTC buying techniques are good, because the mistake lies with those who invest in BTC but suffer losses because they don't hold onto BTC for long. So, the point is that investing in BTC is easy, and we are free to buy in any way we want, as long as we hold onto BTC for the long term. However, the most comfortable strategy in my opinion is the DCA technique because you don't need to think about the price; you just focus on accumulating BTC. Of course, everyone has different methods and preferences, and we are free to use any technique.

Yeah, true that bro. but what I think is it all comes down to patience...  Like you said, there is really no bad method as long as you are holding long term.. 
DCA just keeps things simple you will not stress and overthink, just steady stacking..  But when the market dips hard, I also like to throw in a little extra if I have got some spare cash.. It’s just about finding that balance that works for you and staying with it..  Everyone got their own pattern in this game..

[jems]

I think this buying the dip method is similar to the idea behind investing in shitcoins, we want to buy cheaper so we can sell when price is higher.

You are very wrong, buying the dip is not similar to what you are refering it to, and no bitcoin investor want's to buy bitcoin cheaper with the mindset of selling at a higher price. We all are buying the dips when ever they occur to add up to our bitcoin holding, Because  dips encourage aggressive buying of bitcoin since you are buying at cheaper price. And also remember buying the dip is another good strategy for accumulating bitcoin to hold for long term 4 to 10 years or more, so you saying that buying the dip is similar to the idea behind in investing shitcoins makes me believe that you know nothing about buying the dip, because if you actually know that buying the dip is one of the accumulating strategy of bitcoin you won't be making this your statement above, so try and read along and learn to avoid saying things wrong way.

Sometimes people don't have a long-term investment plan; they only think about the immediate profits they want to achieve. That's a big mistake, and I think this is a place for us to discuss it more openly and think more forward with our investments.
There are many methods for accumulating Bitcoin, and after a lengthy discussion in this thread, I've found that the DCA method is very appropriate for accumulating Bitcoin and holding this investment for the long term. For those who still think short-term, aiming for immediate profits, it might be better to learn more about Bitcoin investment.
These are various words that are difficult to interpret, but I hope we all realize this is for the big things in the future.

[Nightwatchmare]

yes it is wrong to say that long term investors only buy bitcoin whenever there is a dip .

What you said is what a new investor should follow
Yes, one can wait for dips if he keeps his investment consistent through DCA.

A trader always waits for dips but an investor manages his investment consistently and also saves for dips

A long term investor is ready to buy at any market price and does not want to miss the opportunity by waiting for dips

But a trader always guesses the dips and later loses his money
But a long term investor knows that Bitcoin is always the most valuable asset

waiting is not part of the strategy that is used in buying bitcoin. So saying that one can wait for a dip isn't a good idea and there is no way you can be waiting for a dip and still be consistent with your DCA , but rather you don't wait for a dip, you the dip whenever it occurs while still buying or accumulating bitcoin continuous and persistently. This can be achieved by setting out some percentage of your discretionary income and using it for buying the dips whenever it will occur while the remaining percentage is for your regular DCA. Therefore we don't wait for dips but rather we buy the dip, to avoid missing market opportunities and as a low coiner in other to be able to have a good portfolio in your holding you ought to be consistent with your DCA instead prioritising to wait for a dip that may never happen.

Hardyrobust, Lembo69 didn't specify or say that waiting is a part of the strategy used in buying Bitcoin; he was only giving an advice to investors who wish to buy the dip to wait for the dip, but before they do that, they should have an ongoing DCA strategy that will allow them to seize all the buying opportunities the market will present to them. Even if it's not advisable to wait for the dip, i think you are very wrong for saying that we can't wait for the dip because we can actually do that by reserving some portion of our discretionary income for the dip, and we continue accumulating Bitcoin with the DCA strategy, and if the dip happens, then we can use the discretionary income we kept for the dip to buy the dip.

[IceLincoln]

I think this buying the dip method is similar to the idea behind investing in shitcoins, we want to buy cheaper so we can sell when price is higher.

You are very wrong, buying the dip is not similar to what you are refering it to,  and no bitcoin investor want's to buy bitcoin cheaper with the mindset of selling at a higher priced. We all are buying the dips when ever they occur to add up to our bitcoin holding, Because  dips encourage aggressive buying of bitcoin since you are buying at cheaper price. And also remember buying the dip is another good strategy for accumulating bitcoin to hold for long term 4 to 10 years or more, so you saying that buying the dip is similar to the idea behind in investing shitcoins makes me believe that you know nothing about buying the dip, because if you actually know that buying the dip is one of the accumulating strategy of bitcoin you won't be making this your statement above, so try and read along and learn to avoid saying things wrong way.

Huh?!! Are you sure you know what you’re saying?… Why do you buy the dip then or why are you holding for long term? Even the Dollar Cost Averaging that we employ helps us to buy cheaper as we grow our portfolio, if you have been investing in bitcoin using the DCA method Check your average price you’ll see it’s a lot cheaper than what price is now.
And when we do sell it’s at a high price after we have reached our accumulation goal or have a decent amount of bitcoin so technically we invest in bitcoin to buy cheaper and sell high.

Buying Bitcoin can never be compared with buying shit coin buddy, buying shit coin is completely gambling and you may likely get burnt if the market makes a sharp you turn on your investment, so buying Bitcoin wether it's a dip or not can never be compared with buying shit coin that are pure gambling.

I don’t think the author of that statement was trying to compare buying bitcoin to shitcoins, there was an argument about people who wait to buy the dip and he was trying to compare that attitude to those who buy shitcoins.
There’s no Comparing bitcoin to shitcoins and I think he knows it well too.
You guys have to try to be open and understand a concept before jumping to comment.

[sotelorene]

I think this buying the dip method is similar to the idea behind investing in shitcoins, we want to buy cheaper so we can sell when price is higher.

You are very wrong, buying the dip is not similar to what you are refering it to, and no bitcoin investor want's to buy bitcoin cheaper with the mindset of selling at a higher price. We all are buying the dips when ever they occur to add up to our bitcoin holding, Because  dips encourage aggressive buying of bitcoin since you are buying at cheaper price. And also remember buying the dip is another good strategy for accumulating bitcoin to hold for long term 4 to 10 years or more, so you saying that buying the dip is similar to the idea behind in investing shitcoins makes me believe that you know nothing about buying the dip, because if you actually know that buying the dip is one of the accumulating strategy of bitcoin you won't be making this your statement above, so try and read along and learn to avoid saying things wrong way.

First of all you're very correct when you tried to point out that Buying the dip is also an investment strategy. But one thing peculiar to those that strictly invest by buying the dip is that greater percentage of those bitcoin enthusiasts that only buy at dips are into bitcoin trading/gambling. This means that most people that engage in buying dips only also hardly hold for a long time. The sell off whenever they feel it has risen to their taste to give them their desired profit while they sit back and wait for another dip. If @Agbam compares it to buying shitcoins, then technically speaking, he is not completely wrong. Shitcoiners buy in order to sell more quickly when their hope is met (price increase), so those that buy the Dip has same attitude as shitcoiners even though there are still few percentages that don't act same.

As a good bitcoiner that is very intentional about holding your bitcoin for a long-term, why would you wait for dips that may not happen before investing in bitcoin? Buying the dip is an investment strategy but it is better applied during aggressive buys or periodic lump-sum accumulation while you concentrate on a more investor-friendly strategy, the DCA strategy. Anyone that sees buying the dip as a perfect strategy might be a secret bitcoin gambler or a short term bitcoin pedler.

Thank you @Tonimez I think you perfectly understood what I was saying; The attitude of shitcoiners and those that buy the dip are very similar in that they’re after quick profits in short terms. Yeah buying the dip is a good strategy for accumulating bitcoin but you @ Joy maker should know beyond accumulating more at the dip the aim or end product is to sell when price is high enough or you’ve reached your goal. So you can’t say no bitcoin investor wants to buy cheaper and sell when price is high cause basically that’s what we all want in the long run.

You seems to be complicating the whole thing, not every one that buy during the Dip have the intension to sell when the price increase or surge, mind you even investor usually buy at the dip when they have a strong discretionary income despite the fact that they are using the DCA method to accumulate Bitcoin.

You are wrong, the aim is not actually to buy the dip and sell when the price increase because there will be no difference between us and traders, well I don't know about you but as for me my aim and motive is not to buy at the dip and sell when there is price increase rather my aim is to accumulate Bitcoin and hold for the long term and until I reach my set target that is overaccumulation stage I won't sell.

[Grace333]

Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

Yes, that's a good idea to combine the two, because sometimes when there is a drop in the price of BTC, we always want to buy more BTC, so of course the DCA technique still works and the lump sum technique also works. Honestly, I personally always use that technique and of course everything goes smoothly.

In my opinion, all BTC buying techniques are good, because the mistake lies with those who invest in BTC but suffer losses because they don't hold onto BTC for long. So, the point is that investing in BTC is easy, and we are free to buy in any way we want, as long as we hold onto BTC for the long term. However, the most comfortable strategy in my opinion is the DCA technique because you don't need to think about the price; you just focus on accumulating BTC. Of course, everyone has different methods and preferences, and we are free to use any technique.

Most people lose not because they bought at the wrong time, but because they could not hold long enough to see the real value of Bitcoin.. The DCA method just makes everything easier, you do not have to stress about whether the price is high or low, you just keep stacking little by little..  With time, those buys you think is small will start adding up..
I think the key thing is to understand what you are holding and have the patience to let it grow..  Everyone I had their own style, but long term conviction always wins..

[ZeroVinsonN]

The best time to accumulate Bitcoin is not when the price is low, although it is the traders that think in this direction because they want to buy low and sell on an increase while an investor will focus on the long term benefits and not the short term and this will result them in to consideration every time or condition of the market as an opportunity to increase the quantity of their Bitcoin as they buy all the time be it when the price is high or low and this is the best approach because, Bitcoin is for long term investment and not good for short term ( trading) buy when in high or low with dollar cost averaging.

For a trader, it's always the best time to accumulate BTC or any other coin or token as the case may be. It's always wise to 'buy the dip' then sell when the price is high, after all the main goal of buying and selling is to make profit. Even an investor who wants to HODL for a long time always aim at buying when the price is low.

Waiting only for the dip before buying is one bad way to accumulate Bitcoin, since you may likely miss a whole lot of buying opportunity, but the most terrible and stupid idea is getting involved or gambling with shit coin thinking that you are investing, No that's not an investment to me because it's pure gambling, since the possibility of you losing your money is way more higher than the possibility of making money out of it.
So I can only advice you to stop wasting your time and effort f**** around with shit coin with the false hope of making something out of it.

Your advice is spot on about dealing with shitcoins, they’re terrible for investments I’ve personally had an experience as I didn’t know any better. I thought buying cheap coins was gonna give me high returns in the future but most have totally disappeared and reduced to nothing.
I think this buying the dip method is similar to the idea behind investing in shitcoins, we want to buy cheaper so we can sell when price is higher. I’ve come to understand that bitcoin is for the long term so when you buy the dip you have to hold for a long term that way you have more profits.

Shitcoins are shitcoins for a reason so even talking about them here is very out of place as this is a bitcoin thread and it's conversations should be centered around bitcoin, and not just to say bitcoin but bitcoin investment, since there are alot of people who think bitcoin trading is a smart thing to do🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ even when we already know that is not, bitcoin trading is actually one of the worst money making schemes out these. Bitcoin investment on the other hand has shown to be trustworthy enough over the years as there are actually alot of people who have benefited from it.

[POPOLUV]

yes it is wrong to say that long term investors only buy bitcoin whenever there is a dip . This is a misconceptions and can mislead someone especially newbies into thinking that buying the dips is the best strategy for long term investors. However, there is nothing wrong to buy the dips whenever it occurs but waiting or targeting a desire is pretty lame idea. An investor can combine DCA strategy with the other two strategy like buying the dips and also lump sum buying. The motive behind waiting for a desire dip is to make quick profit and this is what distinguished a trader from long term investors.

The money is the key, and once it is available for investment, the decision to buy or not is no longer necessary because people believe that you can only buy when the price is down. This belief is not unique to newbies; many people believe that they will only decide to buy when the price is down. No one is saying that buying dips is bad, but the main point is that, when it comes to holding, doing the DCA and buying when the price is down are the best combination everything about bitcoin depends on how you make use of every opportunity that is available to buy.

It is crucial to avoid using the DCA approach for pranks since, in addition to the fact that you will have to wait a long time if you are waiting for the dip, it allows you to buy whenever you want. What if the price does not dip? Then you won't buy so it is better the DCA so that anyone don't have to wait.

If investors buy when the price of Bitcoin is low is not wrong people believe that they can only purchase Bitcoin when price of Bitcoin increases . buying the price of Bitcoin when is low is a kind of multiple combination just like you stipulated early for new investors you should think of long term strategy as an option ,  waiting for the dip  to pump up is not a good mentality

Me i think it is the best time to by if Bitcoin when the fluctuation of Bitcoin has decreased because with time the Bitcoin will still raise again, which the Bitcoin you bought at the lower price will add more value to the price market, so buying a Bitcoin when the price is low is the best compared when you buy Bitcoin when the price is higher.

Everytime is good for buying Bitcoin, you can buy Bitcoin today, you can buy Bitcoin tomorrow, I will suggest that you’ve not heard about the DCA method, which is know as Dollar Cost Averaging, you don’t have to only think that when the price of Bitcoin dips that is when you can most likely be buying Bitcoin so will you be waiting when the price drops so you can buy Bitcoin, when you can always buy with DCA, well I must say that isn’t a good mentality you are having, someone that wants to buy and accumulate Bitcoin for a very long term and hodl, wouldn’t be waiting for dip to buy Bitcoin or sees a dip as the best possible way of buying and accumulating Bitcoin, Bitcoin is most certainly better to be accumulated on a consistent basis depending when you have discretionary income, either weekly or monthly basis when you have discretionary amount available.

I think it will be good if you can change your mentality, knowing that you can always buy Bitcoin always and not considering a dip in the price of bitcoin,

The ideas of buying Bitcoin everytime is not really a bad idea shall but there is something that i will like to clearify of because if actually buying Bitcoin everytime even the price of Bitcoin in the parallel market is higher, i can compare it with an investors that have been accumulating their Bitcoin for years when the price of Bitcoin is low or do you think that an investors that bought Bitcoin when it is higher will gain more profits than the investor that has accumulating since, with my own opinion i suggest and advise that is better to buy Bitcoin now than buying Bitcoin when the price in the parallel market is high.

[Tonimez]

. This means that most people that engage in buying dips only also hardly hold for a long time. The sell off whenever they feel it has risen to their taste to give them their desired profit while they sit back and wait for another dip.

I think you are actually wrong to have such thought, not all investors that buys the dip that sell once Bitcoin rises in value, some buys with the intention of holding for a very long time regardless of what the value of Bitcoin does during those years, the only problem of buying only the dip is it requires you to wait for it which I sees as a bad idea, because you may never buy at all since the dip you may be look for may never come, and you are going to miss that buying opportunity.

If @Agbam compares it to buying shitcoins, then technically speaking, he is not completely wrong. Shitcoiners buy in order to sell more quickly when their hope is met (price increase),

Buying Bitcoin can never be compared with buying shit coin buddy, buying shit coin is completely gambling and you may likely get burnt if the market makes a sharp you turn on your investment, so buying Bitcoin wether it's a dip or not can never be compared with buying shit coin that are pure gambling.

You are making the same point as I said iny post. I said that MOST people that STRICTLY but at dips do that with the intention to sell when it rises beyond what they have bought to their satisfaction. Take it this way, as an investor who intends HODLing for a long term of at least 4 to 10 years time, nothing harmful about buying bitcoin today at $122k since you don't even intend to sell anytime soon and being that you believe that bitcoin is a store of value, you will be convinced that after about 2 to 3 cycles of bitcoin, you are sure of an improved tendencies to earn a good profit and still have an option to keep Holding.

This is not the same with bitcoin traders, they won't buy now, they are waiting for the price to Dip to about $110-113k before they will buy. A greater percentage of such people sell after a rise due to FOMO even though it does not occur to everyone that buys the Dip too.

Moreover, comparing it to shitcoiners accumulation doesn't mean I'm seeing bitcoin as one possible shitcoins neither do I undermine the credibility of bitcoin. All I tend to infer from there is that greed is the core reason for going into shitcoins, when they believe they can buy lower and sell higher later which is the origin of bitcoin Gambling; capitalising on bitcoin volatility to make their gain.

[Rhow]

Yeah, true that bro. but what I think is it all comes down to patience...  Like you said, there is really no bad method as long as you are holding long term.. 
DCA just keeps things simple you will not stress and overthink, just steady stacking..  But when the market dips hard, I also like to throw in a little extra if I have got some spare cash.. It’s just about finding that balance that works for you and staying with it..  Everyone got their own pattern in this game..

You should not invest extra money only if you have extra cash. We all know that DCA is the easiest strategy among all the investment methods. But there are some processes to maintain the DCA method, which if managed properly, makes it easy for us to invest in the long term.

Long-term investment is not possible only if there is a flow of money. To keep the investment for a long time, we need a prudent income. It is very easy to always deposit some money from that prudent money in a fund or emergency fund and continue investing using the rest. This will never affect your investment. But if you want to catch a falling market using your fund or emergency money, then this is not the right decision for you. Because after investing in a falling market, if you suddenly face a financial crisis, you may have to sell the investment. So if you have extra money, you should not always think about investing using that money. If you can separate a discretionary amount from your extra money, then you can invest during the fall with that money.

[Shineup]

yes it is wrong to say that long term investors only buy bitcoin whenever there is a dip . This is a misconceptions and can mislead someone especially newbies into thinking that buying the dips is the best strategy for long term investors. However, there is nothing wrong to buy the dips whenever it occurs but waiting or targeting a desire is pretty lame idea. An investor can combine DCA strategy with the other two strategy like buying the dips and also lump sum buying. The motive behind waiting for a desire dip is to make quick profit and this is what distinguished a trader from long term investors.

The money is the key, and once it is available for investment, the decision to buy or not is no longer necessary because people believe that you can only buy when the price is down. This belief is not unique to newbies; many people believe that they will only decide to buy when the price is down. No one is saying that buying dips is bad, but the main point is that, when it comes to holding, doing the DCA and buying when the price is down are the best combination everything about bitcoin depends on how you make use of every opportunity that is available to buy.

It is crucial to avoid using the DCA approach for pranks since, in addition to the fact that you will have to wait a long time if you are waiting for the dip, it allows you to buy whenever you want. What if the price does not dip? Then you won't buy so it is better the DCA so that anyone don't have to wait.

If investors buy when the price of Bitcoin is low is not wrong people believe that they can only purchase Bitcoin when price of Bitcoin increases . buying the price of Bitcoin when is low is a kind of multiple combination just like you stipulated early for new investors you should think of long term strategy as an option ,  waiting for the dip  to pump up is not a good mentality

Me i think it is the best time to by if Bitcoin when the fluctuation of Bitcoin has decreased because with time the Bitcoin will still raise again, which the Bitcoin you bought at the lower price will add more value to the price market, so buying a Bitcoin when the price is low is the best compared when you buy Bitcoin when the price is higher.

Everytime is good for buying Bitcoin, you can buy Bitcoin today, you can buy Bitcoin tomorrow, I will suggest that you’ve not heard about the DCA method, which is know as Dollar Cost Averaging, you don’t have to only think that when the price of Bitcoin dips that is when you can most likely be buying Bitcoin so will you be waiting when the price drops so you can buy Bitcoin, when you can always buy with DCA, well I must say that isn’t a good mentality you are having, someone that wants to buy and accumulate Bitcoin for a very long term and hodl, wouldn’t be waiting for dip to buy Bitcoin or sees a dip as the best possible way of buying and accumulating Bitcoin, Bitcoin is most certainly better to be accumulated on a consistent basis depending when you have discretionary income, either weekly or monthly basis when you have discretionary amount available.

I think it will be good if you can change your mentality, knowing that you can always buy Bitcoin always and not considering a dip in the price of bitcoin,

The ideas of buying Bitcoin everytime is not really a bad idea shall but there is something that i will like to clearify of because if actually buying Bitcoin everytime even the price of Bitcoin in the parallel market is higher, i can compare it with an investors that have been accumulating their Bitcoin for years when the price of Bitcoin is low or do you think that an investors that bought Bitcoin when it is higher will gain more profits than the investor that has accumulating since, with my own opinion i suggest and advise that is better to buy Bitcoin now than buying Bitcoin when the price in the parallel market is high.

What is your definition of Bitcoin parallel market? Buying any time is good whether the price is low or not for investors with future plans of their Bitcoin and not the presen, their focus now will be increase their Bitcoin size without looking at price of Bitcoin, the journey of Bitcoin investment is personal and there wouldn't be any reason comparing what will be your profit and that of others because it is not a competitive journey, you are sounding like you have issues buying Bitcoin any time without considering if the market is low or high.

[Becky Wealth]

The price of bitcoin is very difficult to predict, that's why if we only buy when the price drops and sell when the price is high, I think such actions are not good. Because basically we don't know when bitcoin will rise or fall in price. So that's why many people recommend investing in the long term in bitcoin.

Anyone that buys Bitcoin and sell in a very short timeframe just because Bitcoin has rose in value is not an investor, but a trader. And investor in Bitcoin is someone that bought and accumulate a huge stash of bitcoin over the years and hold for a very long time, without selling irrespective of how far the value of Bitcoin has grown, and that's the best way to build a generational wealth overtime, not buying and selling for gains that wouldn't have any significant impact on your finance status.

When you say one doesn't need to know everything about bitcoin because there may not be enough time to gather all the necessary knowledge about bitcoin it gets me very confused because those vital informations involved in Bitcoin is what one requires to venture into Bitcoin diligently and I think neglecting them could be disastrous at the long run if an individual must make profit,

You don't need to be confused in what he is trying to say mate, what he meant is that once you have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin, you can start your accumulation journey and along the line you can seek further knowledge on Bitcoin and what am what is required to hold strong into the future, but if you decide to seek knowledge first, you might be left behind because their is no time to waste, by being perfect before you start, that's what he is trying to say.

You're really correct.i completely agree Timing of Bitcoin market is really difficult Even to experts
It's true that Bitcoin price is unpredictable because it's has factors that influenced it  which are Global events Market, sentiment and many more
Nobody can predict the actual time to enter or Exist in Bitcon,so I will advise investors go into long_term investment In Bitcoin
Because it's base on the Believe that Bitcoin value will continue to grow over time because of limited supply,long time investors should focus on how to accumulate Bitcoin And holding it through Bull And bear markets
The time in Bitcon market is actually important than timing he Bitcoin market

[Becky Wealth]

The price of bitcoin is very difficult to predict, that's why if we only buy when the price drops and sell when the price is high, I think such actions are not good. Because basically we don't know when bitcoin will rise or fall in price. So that's why many people recommend investing in the long term in bitcoin.

Anyone that buys Bitcoin and sell in a very short timeframe just because Bitcoin has rose in value is not an investor, but a trader. And investor in Bitcoin is someone that bought and accumulate a huge stash of bitcoin over the years and hold for a very long time, without selling irrespective of how far the value of Bitcoin has grown, and that's the best way to build a generational wealth overtime, not buying and selling for gains that wouldn't have any significant impact on your finance status.

When you say one doesn't need to know everything about bitcoin because there may not be enough time to gather all the necessary knowledge about bitcoin it gets me very confused because those vital informations involved in Bitcoin is what one requires to venture into Bitcoin diligently and I think neglecting them could be disastrous at the long run if an individual must make profit,

You don't need to be confused in what he is trying to say mate, what he meant is that once you have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin, you can start your accumulation journey and along the line you can seek further knowledge on Bitcoin and what am what is required to hold strong into the future, but if you decide to seek knowledge first, you might be left behind because their is no time to waste, by being perfect before you start, that's what he is trying to say.

You're really correct.i completely agree Timing of Bitcoin market is really difficult Even to experts
It's true that Bitcoin price is unpredictable because it's has factors that influenced it  which are Global events Market, sentiment and many more
Nobody can predict the actual time to enter or Exist in Bitcon,so I will advise investors go into long_term investment In Bitcoin
Because it's base on the Believe that Bitcoin value will continue to grow over time because of limited supply,long time investors should focus on how to accumulate Bitcoin And holding it through Bull And bear markets
The time in Bitcon market is actually important than timing he Bitcoin market

I think this buying the dip method is similar to the idea behind investing in shitcoins, we want to buy cheaper so we can sell when price is higher.

You are very wrong, buying the dip is not similar to what you are refering it to, and no bitcoin investor want's to buy bitcoin cheaper with the mindset of selling at a higher price. We all are buying the dips when ever they occur to add up to our bitcoin holding, Because  dips encourage aggressive buying of bitcoin since you are buying at cheaper price. And also remember buying the dip is another good strategy for accumulating bitcoin to hold for long term 4 to 10 years or more, so you saying that buying the dip is similar to the idea behind in investing shitcoins makes me believe that you know nothing about buying the dip, because if you actually know that buying the dip is one of the accumulating strategy of bitcoin you won't be making this your statement above, so try and read along and learn to avoid saying things wrong way.

First of all you're very correct when you tried to point out that Buying the dip is also an investment strategy. But one thing peculiar to those that strictly invest by buying the dip is that greater percentage of those bitcoin enthusiasts that only buy at dips are into bitcoin trading/gambling. This means that most people that engage in buying dips only also hardly hold for a long time. The sell off whenever they feel it has risen to their taste to give them their desired profit while they sit back and wait for another dip. If @Agbam compares it to buying shitcoins, then technically speaking, he is not completely wrong. Shitcoiners buy in order to sell more quickly when their hope is met (price increase), so those that buy the Dip has same attitude as shitcoiners even though there are still few percentages that don't act same.

As a good bitcoiner that is very intentional about holding your bitcoin for a long-term, why would you wait for dips that may not happen before investing in bitcoin? Buying the dip is an investment strategy but it is better applied during aggressive buys or periodic lump-sum accumulation while you concentrate on a more investor-friendly strategy, the DCA strategy. Anyone that sees buying the dip as a perfect strategy might be a secret bitcoin gambler or a short term bitcoin pedler.

Thank you @Tonimez I think you perfectly understood what I was saying; The attitude of shitcoiners and those that buy the dip are very similar in that they’re after quick profits in short terms. Yeah buying the dip is a good strategy for accumulating bitcoin but you @ Joy maker should know beyond accumulating more at the dip the aim or end product is to sell when price is high enough or you’ve reached your goal. So you can’t say no bitcoin investor wants to buy cheaper and sell when price is high cause basically that’s what we all want in the long run.

You're correct.the buy in dip has the same similar mindset with those who invest in "shitcoins"both approaches are built in the same principle
Buy low and sell high,
It's goal is to take advantage of price fluctuation to generate profit,with Bitcoin buying The dip will still make sense because it's long_established asset With strong fundamentals even when the price drops the long_term growth remains,
When we are talking about Shitcoins it doesn't have long_term utility they may risk quickly Due to hype,but will later crash, buying dips in such coin Is like gambling than investing
The strategy may sound the same "but the quality of what you are buying make all the difference

[Silikiem]

Although someone else might fancy the other (buying the dip) and it's not a bad one either if he can time the market well

Your statement here looks contradictory and misleading in the sense that it’s getting to look like you’re encouraging people to time the market before they can accumulate bitcoin and hold for the long term goal. Buying the dip whenever it presents itself coupled with how prepared the investor is isn’t a bad thing, but it’s bad when an investor is intentionally waiting for the dip to occur before accumulating bitcoin. For a long term bitcoin investor, market timing before accumulating bitcoin is bad. Anyone timing the market before accumulating bitcoin is a trader who’s in for a short profit and such person is not an investor. instead of waiting and timing the market before accumulating bitcoin, one should use the DCA method and accumulate bitcoin with just a discretionary income either on a weekly or monthly basis depending on how the income flows and gradually build up their portfolio and hold for the long term goal.

[Solokan]

Bitcoin investment strategies are for everyone, it's more a matter of which one will work better for you depending on how you decide to om look at it but while all investment strategies are good the DCA method is arguably better for an everyday investor, this is because the DCA cancel out most of the anxiety that comes with investing, there is no fear of the increase and decrease of price plus it works regardless of your budget, as long as you Discretionary income is available to then you can always invest. It works based consistency, the investor just needs to know what they want.

Of course, we are free to choose any strategy for investing in BTC because the most important thing is that we use discretionary income to buy BTC. The DCA strategy is indeed a good strategy, and what makes it unique is that we potentially won't experience anxiety because the focus is on accumulating BTC, and of course, we don't pay attention to whether the price of BTC is rising or falling. However, what is clear is that we only focus on saving BTC for the long term.

However, we must also have emergency funds and continue to add to them because if we don't have emergency funds, it will sometimes make it difficult for us to invest in BTC for the long term. For example, we may have urgent needs that could potentially cause us to sell our BTC. And of course, we must also be patient when holding BTC for the long term because without patience, it will be difficult for us to get big profits. There are many examples of people who have successfully invested in BTC for the long term, such as those who bought BTC in 2010 and have held onto it until now.

[abaeze]

Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

First of all, DCA and DIP are two different investment methods. DCA is to buy regularly with the same amount of money every week or month. DIP is to buy aggressively when the market is falling. I think it is best to always buy through the DCA method. Because if a person waits to buy DIP, then it will never be the right decision. Because no one can tell when the market will fall. So a person should always buy and buy using the DCA method.

As you said, I do not like this method very much if you buy DIP along with DCA. Because you have money, buy. If you wait to buy DIP today, if the market does not fall and if it never goes to this price, then you have missed this opportunity to buy. So a person will be best off if he always buys using the DCA method.

I think if you have the money then buy it, waiting for DIP may miss the opportunity. Because since the main objective is to profit from this through long-term investment. So, you might say this argument comes from Lump Sum thinking. But the main objective is to accumulate Bitcoin, so whatever investment method you use, if it is for long-term investment, then no opportunity should be missed.

[liasbaa]

Yeah, true that bro. but what I think is it all comes down to patience...  Like you said, there is really no bad method as long as you are holding long term.. 
DCA just keeps things simple you will not stress and overthink, just steady stacking..  But when the market dips hard, I also like to throw in a little extra if I have got some spare cash.. It’s just about finding that balance that works for you and staying with it..  Everyone got their own pattern in this game..

You should not invest extra money only if you have extra cash. We all know that DCA is the easiest strategy among all the investment methods. But there are some processes to maintain the DCA method, which if managed properly, makes it easy for us to invest in the long term.

Long-term investment is not possible only if there is a flow of money. To keep the investment for a long time, we need a prudent income. It is very easy to always deposit some money from that prudent money in a fund or emergency fund and continue investing using the rest. This will never affect your investment. But if you want to catch a falling market using your fund or emergency money, then this is not the right decision for you. Because after investing in a falling market, if you suddenly face a financial crisis, you may have to sell the investment. So if you have extra money, you should not always think about investing using that money. If you can separate a discretionary amount from your extra money, then you can invest during the fall with that money.

If you do not need the extra funds urgently, then there is nothing wrong with buying Bitcoin with them. The idea of buying Bitcoin is wiser than saving extra money. Buying Bitcoin with extra money can increase your capital quickly. If you have available source of income then you must continue to accumulation Bitcoin through DCA. It is more logical to use the extra funds during times of price decline. If you do not have a high income flow but have extra money do not use full money for lump sum. Buying Bitcoin with extra funds will be the right decision for you at that time when you are doing DCA regularly and your portfolio is growing.

The Bitcoin market can always be volatile, so do not allocate all that you have for investment. The DCA method is considered the most suitable means of investing in Bitcoin because it gradually increases your portfolio and the unit price decreases due to different purchase prices.  When there is an excessive upward trend, its unit price may go up, but long term Bitcoin accumulation will benefit you greatly overall.

[Bluedrem]

Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

There are many investors who have a lump sum of money and then they buy Bitcoin using their weekly or monthly income as a consideration and consider investing in Bitcoin but leave it for DIP. To be honest, waiting for them will only bring them profit when it is very certain that Bitcoin's DIP is coming. But the extreme reality is that no one knows what Bitcoin will be like in a month, 6 months, a year or 5 years. If you review the price of Bitcoin, you will see that its value has increased much more than its value has decreased. So if you think of Bitcoin as a single currency rather than relating it to the dollar, then you should increase your portfolio in Bitcoin because how wealthy you are will be measured based on how many Bitcoins you have had in the past. So you should invest your lump sum money in Bitcoin now and later when you are investing in the DCA method, create another fund from your discretionary income in addition to investing in Bitcoin, with which you can buy if Bitcoin DIP comes.

[taibodi]

Given that the two can actually complement one another, we might say that using DCA does not prevent anyone from purchasing the dip. I occasionally attempt to DCA on a regular basis as well, but I still buy more to profit from a sharp market decline. It's similar to cleverly combining the two tactics, particularly if you have enough extra cash on hand. I believe those men were attempting to convey the same idea, but perhaps their explanation was not sufficiently clear for everyone to understand.

First of all, DCA and DIP are two different investment methods. DCA is to buy regularly with the same amount of money every week or month. DIP is to buy aggressively when the market is falling. I think it is best to always buy through the DCA method. Because if a person waits to buy DIP, then it will never be the right decision. Because no one can tell when the market will fall. So a person should always buy and buy using the DCA method.

As you said, I do not like this method very much if you buy DIP along with DCA. Because you have money, buy. If you wait to buy DIP today, if the market does not fall and if it never goes to this price, then you have missed this opportunity to buy. So a person will be best off if he always buys using the DCA method.

I think if you have the money then buy it, waiting for DIP may miss the opportunity. Because since the main objective is to profit from this through long-term investment. So, you might say this argument comes from Lump Sum thinking. But the main objective is to accumulate Bitcoin, so whatever investment method you use, if it is for long-term investment, then no opportunity should be missed.

A person with a short-term mindset can never be an investor. Thinking about the dip will waste time and opportunity and will fall behind. The main objective is to collect Bitcoin and hold it for the long term.