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October 12, 2025, 04:47:20 AM
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You are absolutely right, investing in Bitcoin should never be compared to greed.
Investing is saving for the future and some people may consider investing as greed due to lack of proper information.

We should try to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and be interested in investing for our financial well-being.
Basically, make use of both opportunity and age because if we do not invest now despite the opportunity, we will have nothing to do but regret it at the end of our lives.

So starting investing now will be profitable. For the future

Investing could be greed if you are overdoing it, and you are making mistakes that involve being overly aggressive and not taking proper preparations with your cashflow management and/or your back up funds... including investing beyond your discretionary income.
You make a good point. Investing itself isn’t greedy, on the contrary, it’s actually a very wise initiative if the Investor in question is doing it with understanding and discipline. When someone decides to go into Investment, there are certain important things they should at all time keep in check, such as their financial stability, when an investor ignores their financial stability, they kinda push beyond their limits and end up taking reckless risks in order to secure the bigger returns, and that’s when it goes from smart investing to greed.

Greed in investing is most likely to show up when the investor starts thinking irrationally and becomes blind to the potential risks of losses that comes with that investment. At this point, they become overly confident about the investment and can easily pour in funds meant for other essential expenses or even emergency into that investment, some even go as far as taking up high interest loans to put into that investment with hopes of paying back from the returns of the investment, all because they’re more focused on getting quick returns. And this is the point that the actual problem starts, because purpose of every investment should be to build wealth, and now rather than building wealth, they’re putting their financial security in danger, thereby defeating the purpose of investing in the first place. 

The honest truth about investing is that, it should always be part of a plan that completely fits your income, your long term goals and also your expenses. It’s crucial for every investor to have a very solid emergency fund, keep their spending habit in adequate check, be very aware and cautious of their risk tolerance level. These are the things that helps one to make better investment choices and that’s why when ignored, emotions or desperation sets in and drives their decisions, investing suddenly becomes speculation and gambling, and at this point, greed becomes the major drive of every decision you make about your investment.

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October 12, 2025, 05:14:00 AM
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Those who wait for a decline are never long-term investors. They are always a business. Because an investor will always love to continue buying.
The bold line will be  Those who invest in the short term are mainly traders or gamblers. If someone thinks of Bitcoin as a direct business and continues to invest for a long time, then there is no problem. But traders mainly invest for a short time and want to become rich quickly. That is why it is very important to always have a long-term vision in the field of investment. Because if you analyze the past market of Bitcoin, you will understand that if someone has invested or held it for a minimum of 4 years or more, they have made a profit.

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October 12, 2025, 05:54:52 AM
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Those who wait for a decline are never long-term investors. They are always a business. Because an investor will always love to continue buying.
The bold line will be  Those who invest in the short term are mainly traders or gamblers. If someone thinks of Bitcoin as a direct business and continues to invest for a long time, then there is no problem. But traders mainly invest for a short time and want to become rich quickly. That is why it is very important to always have a long-term vision in the field of investment. Because if you analyze the past market of Bitcoin, you will understand that if someone has invested or held it for a minimum of 4 years or more, they have made a profit.

If someone considers Bitcoin as a business and continues to invest, there is no problem, but the individual must understand that they cannot touch the Bitcoin in the same way that they would touch the profit from a business if they want at any time. Bitcoin is meant for long-term investment, whereas businesses can operate and use profits to cover expenses, but this cannot be done if your goal is long-term holding. As you mentioned, anyone looking for quick gains should be considered as traders or gamblers because they can lose everything in a minute. The Bitcoin price over the years proved that it should not be something that you can keep for just one year and expect to make a big profit, but it should be hold for at least 4 to 10 years and you will see something in return.

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October 12, 2025, 07:10:32 AM
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You are absolutely right, investing in Bitcoin should never be compared to greed.
Investing is saving for the future and some people may consider investing as greed due to lack of proper information.

We should try to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and be interested in investing for our financial well-being.
Basically, make use of both opportunity and age because if we do not invest now despite the opportunity, we will have nothing to do but regret it at the end of our lives.

So starting investing now will be profitable. For the future

Investing could be greed if you are overdoing it, and you are making mistakes that involve being overly aggressive and not taking proper preparations with your cashflow management and/or your back up funds... including investing beyond your discretionary income.
You make a good point. Investing itself isn’t greedy, on the contrary, it’s actually a very wise initiative if the Investor in question is doing it with understanding and discipline. When someone decides to go into Investment, there are certain important things they should at all time keep in check, such as their financial stability, when an investor ignores their financial stability, they kinda push beyond their limits and end up taking reckless risks in order to secure the bigger returns, and that’s when it goes from smart investing to greed.

Greed in investing is most likely to show up when the investor starts thinking irrationally and becomes blind to the potential risks of losses that comes with that investment. At this point, they become overly confident about the investment and can easily pour in funds meant for other essential expenses or even emergency into that investment, some even go as far as taking up high interest loans to put into that investment with hopes of paying back from the returns of the investment, all because they’re more focused on getting quick returns. And this is the point that the actual problem starts, because purpose of every investment should be to build wealth, and now rather than building wealth, they’re putting their financial security in danger, thereby defeating the purpose of investing in the first place.  

The honest truth about investing is that, it should always be part of a plan that completely fits your income, your long term goals and also your expenses. It’s crucial for every investor to have a very solid emergency fund, keep their spending habit in adequate check, be very aware and cautious of their risk tolerance level. These are the things that helps one to make better investment choices and that’s why when ignored, emotions or desperation sets in and drives their decisions, investing suddenly becomes speculation and gambling, and at this point, greed becomes the major drive of every decision you make about your investment.

To chip in briefly, Another areas greed can be showcased in investment is this issue of a fall in the price of Bitcoin presently, and so many talks about buying the Dips now and Hodl, that this is another good time to buy the Dip, and with this talks all over,  some investors might be covered with greed to front load their Bitcoin investment now when actually they have no extra cash to do so, but are only getting involved because they see some other investors buying the Dip.

Some might go as far as buying the Dip this period with their Thier main income or even with highest percentage of their discretionary income without proper allocation of funds to every area, just because people or other investors says it's perfect time for Dip, forgetting that any error you make now in buying aggressively that was not planned for will definitely affect the accumulation in the future.

Investors must not be so bothered about buyiythe Dip is they are not well prepared for it. It is greed that makes you also want to even tap into your emergency funds too just to purchase more Bitcoin because others are doing so. This should be avoided if such investor wants to invest in peace and Hodl for long as previously planned. Greed is never good and should be avoided totally. Buy only when you are prepared for it, or when you have extra cash saved up for the Dip, it's shouldn't be out of plan buying.

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October 12, 2025, 07:28:55 AM
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To chip in briefly, Another areas greed can be showcased in investment is this issue of a fall in the price of Bitcoin presently, and so many talks about buying the Dips now and Hodl, that this is another good time to buy the Dip, and with this talks all over,  some investors might be covered with greed to front load their Bitcoin investment now when actually they have no extra cash to do so, but are only getting involved because they see some other investors buying the Dip.

What you said above is very interesting for know. Btw, BTC drop to 102,000 yesterday was perfectly normal, not due to the pressure of the trade war between the two. Rather, it could be said that the market was already full of a leverage bubble, and those who read this automatically took profit-taking actions, while that's how BTC copes with the already high FOMO in my opinion.

What's the impact of BTC's sharp correction? This is a great, unsolicited opportunity for those who believe in the DCA concept, in addition to their usual routine of buying small, measured amounts. It's important to remember, and don't be mistaken, that every "dip" isn't necessarily a golden opportunity and you should go all in, even though it's not guaranteed. Sometimes a "dip" actually leads to a deeper decline. Relax and remain calm, and always pay attention to the market's direction when trading short-term, but with DCA, cases like the ones in the past two days are just advertising.
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October 12, 2025, 10:55:51 AM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.
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October 12, 2025, 12:49:16 PM
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Those who are waiting for Bitcoin's retracement may have missed the opportunity to buy in 2022, and now the market is seeing a small decline, they may miss this decline. Because a person who waits for a decline can never buy. Because they always think that it may decrease further and then they will buy. While they are thinking like this, they see that your market has corrected its own position before investing. An investor never needs to worry about what will happen in the market. An investor should always continue to buy until his portfolio reaches the goal.

Those who wait for a decline are never long-term investors. They are always a business. Because an investor will always love to continue buying.
Yes, people who wait for the price to drop before making a purchase are clearly traders, not Bitcoin investors. Because the habit of waiting for a low price before making a purchase is already a characteristic, reflecting a mindset that reflects someone who wants to make a quick profit without having to wait too long. However, the mindset of a Bitcoin investor is not like that. Instead, they invest their money and believe that Bitcoin's fundamentals will always be sound, which is why they hold their Bitcoin for the long term. Furthermore, true Bitcoin investors certainly won't wait too long to make a purchase. Because as long as they have cash, they will immediately invest it in Bitcoin. So, in essence, people who claim to invest in Bitcoin but are too afraid to buy right now, I think they are simply experiencing FOMO.

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October 12, 2025, 01:06:30 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.
long time hodling is every investors heart desire in the industry but lack of source of income or lack of finance is the major condition that is forcing some investors into short time.

Now that the price of BTC has dump below $112k, I guess this is the right season for investors to start accumulating BTC, because the price will still going to pump before the end of this year. Short time investors will not joke with this opportunity on ground to buy BTC and hodl because they know how to earn little profit once the green light start to be stable.


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October 12, 2025, 01:14:12 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.
long time hodling is every investors heart desire in the industry but lack of source of income or lack of finance is the major condition that is forcing some investors into short time.

Now that the price of BTC has dump below $112k, I guess this is the right season for investors to start accumulating BTC, because the price will still going to pump before the end of this year. Short time investors will not joke with this opportunity on ground to buy BTC and hodl because they know how to earn little profit once the green light start to be stable.
Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

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You are absolutely right, investing in Bitcoin should never be compared to greed.
Investing is saving for the future and some people may consider investing as greed due to lack of proper information.

We should try to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and be interested in investing for our financial well-being.
Basically, make use of both opportunity and age because if we do not invest now despite the opportunity, we will have nothing to do but regret it at the end of our lives.

So starting investing now will be profitable. For the future

Investing could be greed if you are overdoing it, and you are making mistakes that involve being overly aggressive and not taking proper preparations with your cashflow management and/or your back up funds... including investing beyond your discretionary income.

Never invest in Bitcoin in excess of demand in the DCA method, because if you invest in Bitcoin aggressively, you may face problems with your Bitcoin investment later. Because to protect your investment, you must take some steps, if you invest in Bitcoin aggressively with all this money, then if there is any pressure on your Bitcoin investment from outside, you will not be able to protect the pressure, as a result, there will be a high probability of selling your Bitcoin investment.
Therefore, you should never invest in Bitcoin outside of excess demand, for this reason, it is necessary to form an emergency fund to protect your Bitcoin investment. So that your Bitcoin investment can be protected from any danger.

Well, DCA can deposit Bitcoin little by little using this method but in that case there is really no need to deposit extra Bitcoin, if he starts depositing more Bitcoin than he can afford then he may face some problems later which may affect his Bitcoin investment. So he should take care of these things and it is very important to have an emergency fund along with his Bitcoin investment.

Suppose he is a salaried person, and when he starts buying Bitcoin using DCA method with some amount of money from his salary every month, in that case if he does not deposit his extra money in an emergency fund and if he buys Bitcoin with all his money, then he may face financial crisis at any time, and when he needs money he will be forced to sell his Bitcoin holding, so it is very important to have an emergency fund in addition to their Bitcoin holding.
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October 12, 2025, 01:29:50 PM
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Those who wait for a decline are never long-term investors. They are always a business. Because an investor will always love to continue buying.
The bold line will be  Those who invest in the short term are mainly traders or gamblers. If someone thinks of Bitcoin as a direct business and continues to invest for a long time, then there is no problem. But traders mainly invest for a short time and want to become rich quickly. That is why it is very important to always have a long-term vision in the field of investment. Because if you analyze the past market of Bitcoin, you will understand that if someone has invested or held it for a minimum of 4 years or more, they have made a profit.

If someone considers Bitcoin as a business and continues to invest, there is no problem, but the individual must understand that they cannot touch the Bitcoin in the same way that they would touch the profit from a business if they want at any time. Bitcoin is meant for long-term investment, whereas businesses can operate and use profits to cover expenses, but this cannot be done if your goal is long-term holding. As you mentioned, anyone looking for quick gains should be considered as traders or gamblers because they can lose everything in a minute. The Bitcoin price over the years proved that it should not be something that you can keep for just one year and expect to make a big profit, but it should be hold for at least 4 to 10 years and you will see something in return.
If someone shows an attitude of not accumulating Bitcoin for 4-10 years, then it will be his wrong decision. He can use his wealth in any way, but if he accumulates Bitcoin and holds it for one year or two years or even maximum three years, it can still be considered a risky investment. Short term trading is always risky. The issue of losing capital in a minute is not really said just to scare. I guess it can happen to any investor/trader. I think no investor has lost money yet by buying Bitcoin. It can be short term trading or long-term investment. Long term investment is best suited for Bitcoin and it is designed for long term accumulation. By trading short term you are abusing it and selling it in the hope of small profits. And again you are buying Bitcoin at a higher price. As you mentioned the time frame (4-10 years), those investors should have accumulation Bitcoin long term instead of short term trading.











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October 12, 2025, 01:41:41 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.
long time hodling is every investors heart desire in the industry but lack of source of income or lack of finance is the major condition that is forcing some investors into short time.

Now that the price of BTC has dump below $112k, I guess this is the right season for investors to start accumulating BTC, because the price will still going to pump before the end of this year. Short time investors will not joke with this opportunity on ground to buy BTC and hodl because they know how to earn little profit once the green light start to be stable.
People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.











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October 12, 2025, 02:00:56 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.
long time hodling is every investors heart desire in the industry but lack of source of income or lack of finance is the major condition that is forcing some investors into short time.

Now that the price of BTC has dump below $112k, I guess this is the right season for investors to start accumulating BTC, because the price will still going to pump before the end of this year. Short time investors will not joke with this opportunity on ground to buy BTC and hodl because they know how to earn little profit once the green light start to be stable.
People who are only investing in bitcoin for the long term are the once meant to be called investors, right now that their is a so much anticipated dip in the price of bitcoin most people would definitely take the opportunity of buying more bitcoin because they are excited about the dip and it’s an opportunity for them, but their are also people who are investing in bitcoin that wouldn’t have an opportunity of buying the dip, because they already bought bitcoin before the unprecedented dip, bitcoin is always volatile and it’s very hard to predict the price of bitcoin, which is why many people wouldn’t have the opportunity of buying through the dip.

However people who have different cashflow and people who also have other financial flexibility would definitely know how to keep money aside for taking the opportunity of buying a dip, but right now people who do not have a so much grate income to discretionary, would rather prefer buying little by little through the DCA.

There is nothing wrong keeping money aside in preparation for buying the dip but we should also have it in mind that there is a certain level of trade off in doing that other than buying right away since the dip may not end up happening, with a consistent DCA alot of dips can be catch there is nothing much to worry about not buying from the present dip as akind of intentional purchase of Bitcoin in a dip, I have pity for those who will get overly excited about the dip and probably invest the money that is not meant for investment all in the name of buying the dip, so many will definitely fall in to this which is wrong.

 
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Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

Of course, patience is a virtue to attaining any height.  But I keep asking, if investors already know the floating and/or fluctaution nature of Bitcoin, been fully aware that dips might come at anytime, shouldn't they be prepared for such Dip?, like adopting accumulation Strategies that's allows them be able to Hodl there Bitcoin assets during these Dip period, knowing that at a long run, if we Hodl it, Bitcoin has the potential of giving back much more value and worth in years? Why accumulating Bitcoin under pressure or using your main income to accumulate Bitcoin without settling your basic needs, and when Dip comes, you fear of loosing everything and then, you hurriedly sell, sometimes even in lose just so you can have a little thing to your self?

To me, frankly speaking, it sounds so unwise to me, that a Bitcoin investor knows that Bitcoin fluctuates, and can drop down to a very low state at anytime, and then still goes ahead to invest in Bitcoin with income that is very much needed to do other stuffs, funds like emergency funds, or even your main income just to boost your holdings. Isn't this putting your self into panic and  pressure, and also putting your personal needs to stop or suffering on the other hand because you wouldn't be able to meet up with basic needs when the need arises.

This is why it is largely adviced that investors should ensure to use there discretionary income for accumulation, after settlement of basic needs. This gives you free hands and makes you in charge of your investment journey, that even in face of Dips, just like this recent decilne in price, you wouldn't be panicking or running to sell off rather too quickly. We must learn to invest in the right way, so that we can achieve our long term budget of accumulating of Bitcoin and Hodl.

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October 12, 2025, 02:30:28 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.


They are not just called gamblers rather they are also known and called traders, people who are so impatient and are interested in getting rich overnight forgetting that things doesn't work that way. Anyone who gets rich overnight will only be by virtue of luck otherwise there's no such thing because all principles and protocol must be fully observed and followed. Sometimes what causes or make some people go about Bitcoin this way is misinformation or misconception, some people give wrong information while some people give right information but the information is been interpret wrongly or apply wrongly.











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October 12, 2025, 03:04:15 PM
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Yes, we've seen a significant decline, but it's important to remember that patience is essential in these situations. There's a concept in human psychology for these situations: Prospect Theory.

I don't know if you've heard of this theory, but people tend to focus more on the amount they lose than the amount they gain. Therefore, during times of such major crashes, it's best to be patient and perhaps stay away for a while. If you act on this sentiment, you'll be swept up in a wave of panic selling and lose your long-term investments prematurely. I'm a long-term Bitcoin believer. There will certainly be times like these, but the key is patience and looking ahead. I believe regular investment is always a guaranteed gain.

Of course, patience is a virtue to attaining any height.  But I keep asking, if investors already know the floating and/or fluctaution nature of Bitcoin, been fully aware that dips might come at anytime, shouldn't they be prepared for such Dip?, like adopting accumulation Strategies that's allows them be able to Hodl there Bitcoin assets during these Dip period, knowing that at a long run, if we Hodl it, Bitcoin has the potential of giving back much more value and worth in years? Why accumulating Bitcoin under pressure or using your main income to accumulate Bitcoin without settling your basic needs, and when Dip comes, you fear of loosing everything and then, you hurriedly sell, sometimes even in lose just so you can have a little thing to your self?

To me, frankly speaking, it sounds so unwise to me, that a Bitcoin investor knows that Bitcoin fluctuates, and can drop down to a very low state at anytime, and then still goes ahead to invest in Bitcoin with income that is very much needed to do other stuffs, funds like emergency funds, or even your main income just to boost your holdings. Isn't this putting your self into panic and  pressure, and also putting your personal needs to stop or suffering on the other hand because you wouldn't be able to meet up with basic needs when the need arises.

This is why it is largely adviced that investors should ensure to use there discretionary income for accumulation, after settlement of basic needs. This gives you free hands and makes you in charge of your investment journey, that even in face of Dips, just like this recent decilne in price, you wouldn't be panicking or running to sell off rather too quickly. We must learn to invest in the right way, so that we can achieve our long term budget of accumulating of Bitcoin and Hodl.

Well, it is very unwise not to inform investors to understand how to use his or her discretionary income in the process of accumulation
most investors knows how to
manage and take fully in charge after multiple expenses.
Bitcoin being an asset so investors should get parepared that dip might comes up soon because long term hold is key to achievement.
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October 12, 2025, 03:21:33 PM
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Either short time or long time it's all a matter of what they want to choose but most people love long time because they have to wait for the price to go up before they will be able to make money from the market they need to be have patience because if the price is down it

In this case, we are certainly free to choose whether we want to invest in the long term or short term, but of course, everything has its pros and cons. However, there are quite a few people who choose to invest in BTC in the long term because investing in BTC in the long term is certainly the easiest to do, unlike short-term investments, which require us to constantly monitor the market and sometimes worry when we see the price of BTC falling, for example. However, if we invest for the long term, we can always be calm and not worry.

Those who invest in BTC for the long term must be patient, but the fact is that those who invest in BTC for the long term will not be confused because they already know that BTC has the potential to rise significantly in the future. Of course, in this case, we are free to choose whether we want to invest for the long term or short term because everyone has different opinions. However, there are also many people who invest in BTC for both the long term and short term, and that is certainly their right.











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October 12, 2025, 03:31:09 PM
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You are absolutely right, investing in Bitcoin should never be compared to greed.
Investing is saving for the future and some people may consider investing as greed due to lack of proper information.

We should try to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and be interested in investing for our financial well-being.
Basically, make use of both opportunity and age because if we do not invest now despite the opportunity, we will have nothing to do but regret it at the end of our lives.

So starting investing now will be profitable. For the future

Investing could be greed if you are overdoing it, and you are making mistakes that involve being overly aggressive and not taking proper preparations with your cashflow management and/or your back up funds... including investing beyond your discretionary income.

Let’s be real, Sometimes “investing” isn’t strategy, it’s it could be greed in disguise. Here’s how you know you’ve crossed the line from smart investor to a greedy gambler, for example; If you’re investing with money meant for rent, food, or emergencies, you’re not investing, you’re hoping luck saves you. Again greed kicks in when you ignore risk tolerance, you’re chasing 100% returns but can’t handle a 10% dip. "putting all your eggs in” sounds cool until the market flips. No diversification, No backup plan, Just pure YOLO. That’s not confidence, that’s greed with a cape. When you’re chasing every pump like it’s your ticket out the trenches, It’s not hustle but FOMO investing as Fast profits fade and Discipline pays. Skipping research because “everyone’s buying it”? Bro, that’s not alpha, that’s autopilot greed.Reinvesting every profit without pausing to review equals burnout waiting to happen. Using debt to “double down” on investments? That’s not bold, that’s borrowing disaster. The moment you forget why you started, freedom, stability, legacy and focus only on more, you’ve turned investing into an addiction and if no gain ever feels enough, If you keep chasing highs just to feel alive, That’s greed whispering, “One more trade.” Real wealth isn’t built by chasing. It’s built by managing risk, respecting money, and knowing when to stop. Discipline should be greater than desire, and Strategy should be greater than greed.

Lastly invest what you can afford to let go, and invest to hold for long term that's the smartest play with Bitcoin because with the trajectory of BTC you would most definitely 😁 smile at the end of the day
let's be realistic here, I do not consider any kind of investment in Bitcoin to be any form of greed, as a matter of fact it takes self discipline and a great deal of integrity for one to invest in Bitcoin which is a legitimate platform and for anyone to even think of someone else's investment as being greedy is somewhat demeaning in my own opinion, perhaps there are so many people out there that have the resources but would rather invest in stuff that are not even as realistic as Bitcoin, some even prefer gambling in casinos which is more greedy and addictive not Bitcoin.
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October 12, 2025, 03:41:50 PM
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long time hodling is every investors heart desire in the industry but lack of source of income or lack of finance is the major condition that is forcing some investors into short time.
If anyone doesn't have a discretionary income, he shouldn't bother to invest into bitcoin until he's able to get a discretionary income because if you use money for your basic needs to buy bitcoin and believe that you will make profit fast and sell back to get your money, you are wasting your time because you are gambling. If bitcoin price falls dip below your entry point, you will definitely panic and sell in loss. Losing the funds of your basic needs to the market which is the worse of it all.


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Now that the price of BTC has dump below $112k, I guess this is the right season for investors to start accumulating BTC, because the price will still going to pump before the end of this year. Short time investors will not joke with this opportunity on ground to buy BTC and hodl because they know how to earn little profit once the green light start to be stable.
From your post above that I replied, it shows that you are more of a trader and don't have a long-term investment mindset because if you have, you wouldn't give excuses that lack of finance will make you become a trader. Even if you don't have a discretionary often and have once in a while, you can buy bitcoin and hodli without selling.

What if you buy bitcoin and plan to sell when the price increases but the price continues to dip, what will you do than to panic and sell in fear just as traders do. Don't be carried away with little price fluctuations because bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme and traders will end up being losers in the long run.

Here is a trader that commited suicide because his position went against him after Trump announced 100% tariff on China imported goods.

https://x.com/splinter0n/status/1976980545004617988?t=LEeO8E6BooNzUVw2ikhuCw&s=19

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October 12, 2025, 03:44:17 PM
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Funny where you said some traders,are we talking about traders or are we not trying to point out a good method that can be helpful for everyone to buy at all time,
Basically, traders do not play a role in investing they only play a role in trading because they make short-term plans. On the other hand, investing means believing in long-term stability and goal achievement.

When a trader buys Bitcoin, he sells it as soon as he sees a small profit.

But an investor never decides to sell his investment before his main goal. For this, an investor is always more thoughtful and patient than a trader.

Trading and gambling are the same thing because both increase people's blood pressure.

The current falling market is a happy mood for an investor because at the current market price they will be able to accumulate more BTC.

And the next cycle is the basis for future happiness for the saver through the DCA strategy.

Remember that every fall creates an opportunity to start anew, so it is really wise to use the opportunity.

A lot of investors chooses to go for short term goal because they only think of making quick money  but not realizing that long term investment is for future purpose. But for the long term they are always mightfu , consistent and patients  if the price of Bitcoin raising they  are not panic because they  knew the present of the market conditions.
I was told and i believe so that those investors that choose Short term are called the gamblers, and such investors always placed their focus on the fluctuation of Bitcoin for them to know when it is the best time for them to trade in other to making a quick income.


They are not just called gamblers rather they are also known and called traders, people who are so impatient and are interested in getting rich overnight forgetting that things doesn't work that way. Anyone who gets rich overnight will only be by virtue of luck otherwise there's no such thing because all principles and protocol must be fully observed and followed. Sometimes what causes or make some people go about Bitcoin this way is misinformation or misconception, some people give wrong information while some people give right information but the information is been interpret wrongly or apply wrongly.
Those who think that investing will bring them success in a short time, but this is very wrong, they need to change their thinking, you have to be stable in the long term, those who become impatient in the market, or those who are afraid due to instability, can never survive here, and because of this they can never achieve long-term success in Bitcoin, it is important for you to have a long-term mindset when investing in Bitcoin, because from the history of Bitcoin, we can clearly understand that Bitcoin is always very unstable, but it tends to be very valuable in the long term.

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