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Today at 03:29:00 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.

Hold for 4 years?  But when did you buy them?

There are not many guys who can buy all of their coins at once.

There are even a lot of guys who have not bought even close to enough coins even after 4 years of buying, yet if a guy had been buying bitcoin at various points in time over 4 years, he is going to have some older coins and some newer coins.. so then ONLY the older coins would meet the 4 year definition after 4 years of investing.  There will still be some coins in his holdings that are 3 years old, 2 years old, 1 year old and even coins less than a year, such as several month old.

Do you have any proposals regarding how to treat the various aged coins except perhaps waiting a whole additional 4 more years so that all of them that had been bought prior to that 4 year time are clearly and unambiguously older than 4 years.
4 years is a bare minimum for any one who wants to invest in bitcoin but the simple truth is that it's not in any way easy for a person to hit what can be considered as over-accumulation for them in such a time period, achieving that would require a few more cycles to pull of, of course I have no idea how much the intended weekly investment amount is or if the person even intends to invest with the DCA, for all I know they could have lump summed $500k 4 years ago (granted, they would need to be in a really good financial stand to be able to pull that off) and have over $1 million worth of bitcoin in their possession right now but for them such an amount still can't be considered as over-accumulation.
Ideally just holding for 4 years wouldn't be enough, it would definitely be encouraging to have consistently accumulated and held for 4 years but that would still just be the start with even more accumulation to be done in the near future.

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Today at 03:37:52 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
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Today at 04:24:46 AM
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4 years is a bare minimum for any one who wants to invest in bitcoin but the simple truth is that it's not in any way easy for a person to hit what can be considered as over-accumulation for them in such a time period, achieving that would require a few more cycles to pull of, of course I have no idea how much the intended weekly investment amount is or if the person even intends to invest with the DCA, for all I know they could have lump summed $500k 4 years ago (granted, they would need to be in a really good financial stand to be able to pull that off) and have over $1 million worth of bitcoin in their possession right now but for them such an amount still can't be considered as over-accumulation.
Ideally just holding for 4 years wouldn't be enough, it would definitely be encouraging to have consistently accumulated and held for 4 years but that would still just be the start with even more accumulation to be done in the near future.

I totally agree with your statement! Also, Bitcoin has been considered a safe asset to invest in for 4 years but many find it very difficult to get to an "over-accumulation" level within that time-frame. Accumulation typically requires multiple cycles in the market, patience, and ongoing consistency in the effort put into acquiring etc. The way everyone is accumulating is very different. For example, there are some investors that will be gradually accumulating through dollar-cost averaging over time; while there are other investors that are able to afford a lump sum accumulation of funds early on (e.g. friends/family). Regardless, the quantity of bitcoin that will be stockpiled will vary from person to person based upon individual goals, income levels, and risk tolerance, etc.

That’s a good point. The general consensus is that four years is the minimum timeframe for investing in Bitcoin. To reach what some call an “over-accumulation” in four years is not easily done. Usually, it takes multiple years, numerous market cycles, patience, and consistent effort to accomplish that. Everybody’s situation is different. Some may DCA moderately sized amounts weekly, while others may have a significant enough financial base that from the very start they could afford to have done a lump-sum investment. Even someone who has a very substantial holding in the eyes of another person may not see that as an overabundance of holdings. In the end, a person’s ability to accumulate is very individual and all accumulation will be based on a person’s own unique circumstances (e.g., goals, income level, and risk comfort).
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Today at 06:07:57 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.

That's absolutely right. The more you invest in BTC, the greater the potential profit will be, as long as you can hold onto your BTC for the long term. The longer you hold onto your BTC, the greater the profit will be. Personally, I prefer to hold onto my BTC for more than 4 years because if I only hold onto it for 4 years, the profit will be too small for me since I only have a small amount of BTC. However, for those with large capital, the profits will certainly be substantial, even if held for 4 or 5 years, especially during a BTC bull run and when it reaches a new all-time high.

But sometimes I always think that if we hold BTC for more than 10 years, there will definitely be the potential for even greater profits because BTC will have the potential to continue to rise in the future. And what I fear is that when we sell BTC, it will be difficult to get the price we bought it at today. But clearly, the decision is in each person's hands, and everyone has different ways of doing things.











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Today at 06:46:08 AM
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4 years is a bare minimum for any one who wants to invest in bitcoin but the simple truth is that it's not in any way easy for a person to hit what can be considered as over-accumulation for them in such a time period, achieving that would require a few more cycles to pull of, of course I have no idea how much the intended weekly investment amount is or if the person even intends to invest with the DCA, for all I know they could have lump summed $500k 4 years ago (granted, they would need to be in a really good financial stand to be able to pull that off) and have over $1 million worth of bitcoin in their possession right now but for them such an amount still can't be considered as over-accumulation.
Ideally just holding for 4 years wouldn't be enough, it would definitely be encouraging to have consistently accumulated and held for 4 years but that would still just be the start with even more accumulation to be done in the near future.

I totally agree with your statement! Also, Bitcoin has been considered a safe asset to invest in for 4 years but many find it very difficult to get to an "over-accumulation" level within that time-frame. Accumulation typically requires multiple cycles in the market, patience, and ongoing consistency in the effort put into acquiring etc. The way everyone is accumulating is very different. For example, there are some investors that will be gradually accumulating through dollar-cost averaging over time; while there are other investors that are able to afford a lump sum accumulation of funds early on (e.g. friends/family). Regardless, the quantity of bitcoin that will be stockpiled will vary from person to person based upon individual goals, income levels, and risk tolerance, etc.

That’s a good point. The general consensus is that four years is the minimum timeframe for investing in Bitcoin. To reach what some call an “over-accumulation” in four years is not easily done. Usually, it takes multiple years, numerous market cycles, patience, and consistent effort to accomplish that. Everybody’s situation is different. Some may DCA moderately sized amounts weekly, while others may have a significant enough financial base that from the very start they could afford to have done a lump-sum investment. Even someone who has a very substantial holding in the eyes of another person may not see that as an overabundance of holdings. In the end, a person’s ability to accumulate is very individual and all accumulation will be based on a person’s own unique circumstances (e.g., goals, income level, and risk comfort).

With bitcoin investment, there is no need to fill your thoughts with pressure, you just have to invest  according to your ability. Besides it's a decentralized currency and you can also keep your holdings private and accumulate accordingto your own pace. The fact that someone got to the level of over accumulation doesn't mean you should do likewise perhaps he has less life challenges than your self or probably has a good financial structure that made him get to that stage. As our faces are different so are our financials and life situations, the major goal is to invest for long-term off your discretionary income, now the size of your discretionary income is what determines your accumulation size or amount. If anyone feel really uncomfortable with his investment size maybe he should consider getting himself a side hustle or work towards increasing his income.

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Today at 07:08:30 AM
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With bitcoin investment, there is no need to fill your thoughts with pressure, you just have to invest  according to your ability. Besides it's a decentralized currency and you can also keep your holdings private and accumulate accordingto your own pace. The fact that someone got to the level of over accumulation doesn't mean you should do likewise perhaps he has less life challenges than your self or probably has a good financial structure that made him get to that stage. As our faces are different so are our financials and life situations, the major goal is to invest for long-term off your discretionary income, now the size of your discretionary income is what determines your accumulation size or amount. If anyone feel really uncomfortable with his investment size maybe he should consider getting himself a side hustle or work towards increasing his income.

That is why you should not be aggressive towards Bitcoin investment, as much as you can increase your Bitcoin investment with prudent income and sustain it for a long time is good for you. The more aggressive you are with Bitcoin investment, the more risks you may face, so Bitcoin investment should be made suitable enough and should be worked according to a long-term plan that is tolerant in the long term. So that your investment does not touch any danger, only then will you be able to sustain it for a long time, those who do not follow these things and do not invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method are the ones who cannot sustain Bitcoin investment for a long time. Use the IDC method and form an emergency fund Strengthen your investment with prudent income.

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Today at 07:50:37 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.
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Today at 08:43:30 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.

One of the biggest challenge that an investor most fails in , is Holding for a long period of time, that is where their patience is mostly tested or should I just say that the hardest part of being an investor. Many usually have that determination to start strong, build their mind that whatever happens they won't allow emotions or anything to come in their way but at the end  they lose focus along the way. As an investor you must not allow any form of distraction or emotions to decide your path, yes at times the market might not  be in the direction we hoped it would be, but it is better to stay calm during those phase ( it is usually when the market is dipping that most investors who doesn't have strong  psychology sells their Bitcoin due to fear). Bitcoin works best when given time, with that we should stay relaxed, sticking to your plan and letting things play out often beats trying to push too hard or rush results before time does its job.

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Today at 09:10:23 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.

One of the biggest challenge that an investor most fails in , is Holding for a long period of time, that is where their patience is mostly tested or should I just say that the hardest part of being an investor. Many usually have that determination to start strong, build their mind that whatever happens they won't allow emotions or anything to come in their way but at the end  they lose focus along the way. As an investor you must not allow any form of distraction or emotions to decide your path, yes at times the market might not  be in the direction we hoped it would be, but it is better to stay calm during those phase ( it is usually when the market is dipping that most investors who doesn't have strong  psychology sells their Bitcoin due to fear). Bitcoin works best when given time, with that we should stay relaxed, sticking to your plan and letting things play out often beats trying to push too hard or rush results before time does its job.
Yes, I completely agree that the hardest part of investing is to hold, not to buy. Everyone has such strong confidence when they buy but when the price drops they let fear and doubt take control and end up selling at the bottom. Having a clear plan and sticking to it is very important because those who are patient with Bitcoin will reward you for your patience; however, those who panic will lose. If you strongly believe in the long-term vision, then your short-term fluctuation shouldn't affect your decisions. What makes a successful investor compared to all others is being able to keep calm and not react emotionally to market shocks.
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Today at 09:56:02 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.

One of the biggest challenge that an investor most fails in , is Holding for a long period of time, that is where their patience is mostly tested or should I just say that the hardest part of being an investor. Many usually have that determination to start strong, build their mind that whatever happens they won't allow emotions or anything to come in their way but at the end  they lose focus along the way. As an investor you must not allow any form of distraction or emotions to decide your path, yes at times the market might not  be in the direction we hoped it would be, but it is better to stay calm during those phase ( it is usually when the market is dipping that most investors who doesn't have strong  psychology sells their Bitcoin due to fear). Bitcoin works best when given time, with that we should stay relaxed, sticking to your plan and letting things play out often beats trying to push too hard or rush results before time does its job.
Yes, I completely agree that the hardest part of investing is to hold, not to buy. Everyone has such strong confidence when they buy but when the price drops they let fear and doubt take control and end up selling at the bottom. Having a clear plan and sticking to it is very important because those who are patient with Bitcoin will reward you for your patience; however, those who panic will lose. If you strongly believe in the long-term vision, then your short-term fluctuation shouldn't affect your decisions. What makes a successful investor compared to all others is being able to keep calm and not react emotionally to market shocks.

There is nothing actually hard in Bitcoin investment as long as you have made up your mind and determined to invest and hold for a long time. People who find it difficult to hold are people who has not made up their mind completely and also people who don't believe in Bitcoin, there are people who still doubt the potential of Bitcoin even when they are Investing in it and that is why these people find it difficult to continue holding when the market is down or going down, anyone who want to be successful in this journey would or should always be determined and believe in Bitcoin.











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Yes, I completely agree that the hardest part of investing is to hold, not to buy. Everyone has such strong confidence when they buy but when the price drops they let fear and doubt take control and end up selling at the bottom. Having a clear plan and sticking to it is very important because those who are patient with Bitcoin will reward you for your patience; however, those who panic will lose. If you strongly believe in the long-term vision, then your short-term fluctuation shouldn't affect your decisions. What makes a successful investor compared to all others is being able to keep calm and not react emotionally to market shocks.
There is nothing actually hard in Bitcoin investment as long as you have made up your mind and determined to invest and hold for a long time. People who find it difficult to hold are people who has not made up their mind completely and also people who don't believe in Bitcoin, there are people who still doubt the potential of Bitcoin even when they are Investing in it and that is why these people find it difficult to continue holding when the market is down or going down, anyone who want to be successful in this journey would or should always be determined and believe in Bitcoin.
Obviously there is nothing easy or difficult about this digital gold investment because i think that's investing in this digital gold can be started mainly depending on our risk tolerance, knowledge and mindset. At first glance, if we do not know a little knowledge, it seems difficult, but if we know a little knowledge, it seems very easy. At this point, your explanation is correct, because you mentioned that those who find it difficult to hold Bitcoin investment are people who have not fully made up their minds, however, these people should have the idea that the easy way to invest in Bitcoin is to buy a small amount of this digital gold through discretionary income and this is not something that everyone has to constantly research and be under pressure. In fact my opinion this investment brings financial freedom to everyone because it is possible to buy it through our discretionary income and hold it for the long term.

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Today at 11:12:45 AM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.

We will only deposit Bitcoin and follow the strategies on how to maintain it for a long time. The price of Bitcoin can go even higher, so if you do not deposit Bitcoin, you will not have any chance of making any profit. Therefore, every Bitcoin holder should focus on depositing Bitcoin, and how to maintain his Bitcoin investment for a long time, so he should pay more attention to emergency funds and discretionary income. The more your Bitcoin investment portfolio is, the more tightly you hold it and the longer you maintain your Bitcoin holding, the more likely you are to get good dividends.


The key to profiting from Bitcoin is to consistently deposit and create a mindset to hold it for the long term, to be financially and mentally prepared to hold it for the long term, and to be very careful about security issues. Emergency funds and discretionary income are very important, because they are what create the ability to hold Bitcoin for the long term. If the investment has to be broken due to financial stress or sudden need, then the long-term strategy fails, so we must be prepared to provide emergency funds to ensure this security. Those who are forced to sell their investments in the middle of the way, this obligation exposes them to very large losses, as a result of which they face complete failure. Therefore, we must first make our portfolios well-organized and balanced, with the necessary funds for safety and good income mechanisms for long-term continuity, all ready, because the slightest weakness can cause failure.

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Today at 11:27:36 AM
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Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

I have also heard and experienced both situations that you said, the way to overcome them is to use management, you must have a buying and selling target when you invest in a coin, this will make you wiser in making choices. Then about whether now is the time to sell or buy, if you've bought crypto before the new year, I think this is the time for you to sell your coins (including bitcoin) if you're profit-oriented.

Most of the problems we have, many people will not buy there bitcoin when the price is cheap, is when the price is high that’s when some people will go ahead and buy the bitcoin. And if you have already buy your bitcoin keep in your wallet. stop checking on just live it the more you invest in bitcoin the more you will gain it.

And to be very careful about security agencies, because there are many scammers now the increase of the price is the only an estimate but the increase of the size is a reality having a clean plan and sticking to it is very important because those who are patient with bitcoin will rewards.

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Today at 01:19:23 PM
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4 years is a bare minimum for any one who wants to invest in bitcoin but the simple truth is that it's not in any way easy for a person to hit what can be considered as over-accumulation for them in such a time period, achieving that would require a few more cycles to pull of, of course I have no idea how much the intended weekly investment amount is or if the person even intends to invest with the DCA, for all I know they could have lump summed $500k 4 years ago (granted, they would need to be in a really good financial stand to be able to pull that off) and have over $1 million worth of bitcoin in their possession right now but for them such an amount still can't be considered as over-accumulation.
Ideally just holding for 4 years wouldn't be enough, it would definitely be encouraging to have consistently accumulated and held for 4 years but that would still just be the start with even more accumulation to be done in the near future.

I totally agree with your statement! Also, Bitcoin has been considered a safe asset to invest in for 4 years but many find it very difficult to get to an "over-accumulation" level within that time-frame. Accumulation typically requires multiple cycles in the market, patience, and ongoing consistency in the effort put into acquiring etc. The way everyone is accumulating is very different. For example, there are some investors that will be gradually accumulating through dollar-cost averaging over time; while there are other investors that are able to afford a lump sum accumulation of funds early on (e.g. friends/family). Regardless, the quantity of bitcoin that will be stockpiled will vary from person to person based upon individual goals, income levels, and risk tolerance, etc.

That’s a good point. The general consensus is that four years is the minimum timeframe for investing in Bitcoin. To reach what some call an “over-accumulation” in four years is not easily done. Usually, it takes multiple years, numerous market cycles, patience, and consistent effort to accomplish that. Everybody’s situation is different. Some may DCA moderately sized amounts weekly, while others may have a significant enough financial base that from the very start they could afford to have done a lump-sum investment. Even someone who has a very substantial holding in the eyes of another person may not see that as an overabundance of holdings. In the end, a person’s ability to accumulate is very individual and all accumulation will be based on a person’s own unique circumstances (e.g., goals, income level, and risk comfort).

With bitcoin investment, there is no need to fill your thoughts with pressure, you just have to invest  according to your ability. Besides it's a decentralized currency and you can also keep your holdings private and accumulate accordingto your own pace. The fact that someone got to the level of over accumulation doesn't mean you should do likewise perhaps he has less life challenges than your self or probably has a good financial structure that made him get to that stage. As our faces are different so are our financials and life situations, the major goal is to invest for long-term off your discretionary income, now the size of your discretionary income is what determines your accumulation size or amount. If anyone feel really uncomfortable with his investment size maybe he should consider getting himself a side hustle or work towards increasing his income.
Your statement is very wise, we should be more interested in buying and accumulating bitcoin on a consistent basis, instead of getting pressured for no reason, and we should be more adamant to keep buying bitcoin when we have a discretionary income, which is why we shouldn’t get bothered about anything when buying bitcoin, we should be more interested in buying bitcoin within our means and within our financial capabilities of having a discretionary income, bitcoin is a long term investment plan which is why we should be more concerned about accumulating when we have a discretionary income because it’s not a viable when we have pressure on ourselves, there should be no reason to be pressured about investing in Bitcoin.
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Today at 01:50:45 PM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.

One of the biggest challenge that an investor most fails in , is Holding for a long period of time, that is where their patience is mostly tested or should I just say that the hardest part of being an investor. Many usually have that determination to start strong, build their mind that whatever happens they won't allow emotions or anything to come in their way but at the end  they lose focus along the way. As an investor you must not allow any form of distraction or emotions to decide your path, yes at times the market might not  be in the direction we hoped it would be, but it is better to stay calm during those phase ( it is usually when the market is dipping that most investors who doesn't have strong  psychology sells their Bitcoin due to fear). Bitcoin works best when given time, with that we should stay relaxed, sticking to your plan and letting things play out often beats trying to push too hard or rush results before time does its job.
Investors are most likely to sell their Bitcoin prematurely too when the market is bullish as a result of over excitement maybe on seeing a small profits, it is not only when the market is dipping that investor who doesn't have strong psychological balance falls victims of selling their Bitcoin when they are supposed to be buying I mean when they are still in their accumulation process, generally investors are meant to build their psychology in both directions and look towards achieving their long term goals regardless of whatever becomes of the present circumstances they should choose not to be distracted and focused on what is ahead of them.

 
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Today at 01:54:51 PM
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A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.
All you just need in other to accumulate a reasonable stash of bitcoin is constant accumulation, either weekly or monthly, so consistency is the proper word you should be using, no need to intensify anything.
Furthermore, I don't think that holding Bitcoin for just a circle is enough to achieve maximum result or success from your bitcoin investment because accumulating just for a period of four years and selling after then doesn't make you an  investor bit a trader that sold too quick just because of small gains. If you are talking of real investment in bitcoin it's from ten years and above, not four years or lesser.

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Today at 02:00:37 PM
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The more you invest in Bitcoin for 4 years or beyond, more will be your return. That's why we must try to invest maximum in bitcoin because that will eventually be returned to us with huge profit. If someone can spare 100$ per month and that's he is maximum capacity then he must not hesitate in putting that in Bitcoin.  

With Bitcoin you aim must be high. Buying Bitcoin at $85,000 and selling few days after price touches $90,000 must not be the goal. If you have bought Bitcoin at $85,000 then your aim must be to sell some of your Bitcoins at $200,000 and that's possible only if you can hold your Bitcoins for 4 years.
Holding bitcoin for 4 years shows that we are serious about ours investment as it wouldn't seem like we gambling. In as much as bitcoin has the potential of reaching $200,000 in the future but it isn't certain that it would happen in 4 years time. It is could happen that the price of bitcoin might increase more than $200,00 yet it still falls on probability as we can't be certain since we don't have control over the price of bitcoin. Our focus shouldn't be the price of bitcoin but to make sure that we have constant flow discretionary income to invest consistently for the long term.
If it is two more cycles, it will be a great decision for you. Since you can be confident of continuous Bitcoin for four years, holding the portfolio for the next two more cycles (8 years) is more than a decent level.

Plan to reach the level of regular Bitcoin in the presence of a continuous flow of discretionary income. Increase the size of the long term capital. The possibility of being equipped with multiple forms with the increase in the price of Bitcoin. The increase in the price is only an estimate but the increase in the size of the portfolio is a reality. The attitude of maintaining the process of accumulating Bitcoin and moving to the level of over accumulation is based on reality.
A combination of consistency and intensity could be very vital if anyone will be willing to HODL bitcoin for such a long period of time as, 4 years is a very good period for anticipated growth and and with if engaged consistently then I believe the investor might be able to yield much profit within this period of time.


For me i don't see four years of bitcoin holding as good enough for making profit, four years is an accumulation stage because you are gradually buying your bitcoin using your discretionary income adopting the dca strategy, you will not have accumulated much because you did not buy themselves once except you bought and accumulate your bitcoin using lump sum strategy or you bought massively during the dip once. Four years is not good and long enough to sell your bitcoin investment off.

"According to JJG There are even a lot of guys who have not bought even close to enough coins even after 4 years of buying, yet if a guy had been buying bitcoin at various points in time over 4 years, he is going to have some older coins and some newer coins.. so then ONLY the older coins would meet the 4 year definition after 4 years of investing.  There will still be some coins in his holdings that are 3 years old, 2 years old, 1 year old and even coins less than a year, such as several month old."

In situation like this what will you do, the profit will not be uniform, that is why it is better to hodl   till ten years or more before reasoning to sell your bitcoin in that way the profit will have more than just sell at four years.

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