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March 10, 2024, 02:38:41 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

That's why you shouldn't be telling about your financial situation to anyone. It is not their business.

If some of those people show interest in you suddenly, it is because they learned about your winnings/profits etc. These people aren't really interested in you. They are interested in your money which means they want a piece of them your profits. They are like sharks that smelled blood in the ocean. Once they take the smell of money, they'll keep piling up around you.

Like you said some of those people will get even angry because you are rich now and they are not. At least they are not trying to take advantage of your wealth unlike the parasites I mentioned above. I prefer these angry people over the blood smelling sharks any day.

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March 10, 2024, 02:47:36 PM
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That is the reason why we should not tell everyone for our success in everything we do especially in gambling because we do not know how they will react. Some might be happy for us and some are not and it's natural so we should be aware of that. We should prioritize our safety instead of letting everyone know the real thing. If you don't want to take the risks stay low key. Don't make yourself a target.



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March 10, 2024, 03:01:28 PM
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Nothing bad with the message of winning, it just depends on how would an individual will recieve and give meaning into it, and that indeed includes the tendency of others to take it nevatively. Envy, cheating related accusatuons, selfishness and the likes are the ones which are most common to people who are toxic, hearing that something big happened to someone not themselves. These things aren't normal; being toxic will never be a normal behavior. We should learn to let people enjoy things especially those which makes a betterment for their lives. Of course there will be ideologies and desires for same thing to happen for you but that will never be an excuse to spread toxicity just because you did not benefit from it. Wait for your turn and know how to clap for other's happiness.
That is the reason why we should not tell everyone for our success in everything we do especially in gambling because we do not know how they will react. Some might be happy for us and some are not and it's natural so we should be aware of that. We should prioritize our safety instead of letting everyone know the real thing. If you don't want to take the risks stay low key. Don't make yourself a target.
We are free to do so. Why should we adjust with other's toxicity? Some people find joy telling other people what's something that made their day or life better, that could be their means of celebration and there's nothing wrong with it. We just have to pick the ones we would share our best moments with to somehow avoid things which are unwanted. Well yes it would still be an adjustment but at least you would still be able to do what will make you happy, which is in this instance, sharing the joy of winning from gambling. It could be a double edged sword also; there are tendencies that you could drag someone into gambling which will simply expose themselves with risk and even addiction by any chance. So better be careful still, at all times.

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March 10, 2024, 03:05:37 PM
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Joy of victory, an apparently personal accomplishment, yet how lonely! Victories should be hidden from jealousy and apathy, you say. Bad news: winning is frequently a solo experience. Why? The world doesn't celebrate others' wins unless they get a piece of the pie. Very harsh, but all too common. Friends and coworkers sharing your excitement is a fantasy. Despite their congrats, people often compare and dissatisfy. Indeed, it's not their fault. Humans naturally compare themselves to others. And when one rises too fast? Friendships strain and break

Success is elusive in sports betting, trade, and life, as you noted. Quick falls from grace make one ponder if momentary triumphs were worth the isolation. How to fix this? Humility? Secrecy? Perhaps. More significantly, reassessing our values. Joy should not be exchanged for public favor but enjoyed privately or among people who wish us good

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March 10, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
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Anyone who would feel depressed about your winning, maybe a freind or your partner is a selfish person. We should be always happy whenever a gambling freind wins and we dont win. It doesnt have to be us all the time. I know how many times i have predicted some games and i did not end up betting if. But i gave it to my freinds and colleague of which they end up wining and i did not. Yeah it is painful but i have to be happy for them.

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March 10, 2024, 03:52:04 PM
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I think we are also the best example of it.

Since when did we really become genuinely happy for another guy who won his bet? I don't think so. We say "Congratulations." "You are lucky!" and many positive things and yet, I don't think those are for real.
Deep inside we also want the same result as that guy who won his bet which is why we gamble more. Being envious of their success is a natural thing in my opinion because that's how we are as humans. I've seen guys who show their envy without any shame but I do think that's better than those friends that will keep it from you and then backstab you someday when you become a failure and spend all that money.

Anyway, I believe what you said is true. No one will be happy for us but only those who will benefit from the money that we win. Our kids or our wife, or maybe our parents who will also receive a part of that money.

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March 10, 2024, 04:06:52 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
As humans, you will always wish that they are the lucky ones but this is not always the case. There is always envy and competition in the life of everyone. But we have to control it as much as possible because it could lead to something more unhealthy. Some people can be very envious that they can harm someone because of jealousy. But we have to control ourselves not to take it too far. I always celebrate with people who win and gamble because we have a culture that states that if you celebrate other people's victory you will be attracting your own.

However, I think OP is correct that we shouldn't share our win with everyone because not everyone will be happy with our victory. There are family members and friends who shouldn't know that you won in gambling.
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March 10, 2024, 04:11:51 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

This is true with many things in life, we often have a much more grandiose vision and depiction of our own success, because it directly affects us. Your close friends and family will only ever see residual benefits of you were to have great success, although your partner and kids may very well feel great benefits from it too. However great successes like these can often, even accidentally, lead to unnecessary bragging - which is bound to breed envy and jealousy, which can turn be very destructive forces in a relationship.

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March 10, 2024, 04:12:00 PM
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well, I agree with you, a few years ago society was made up of humble people where even when another person x won some prize, friends, family and even neighbors were very happy to see that person x won some prize and They congratulated themselves sincerely, even if that person x didn't give anything to their neighbors, relatives and family. it was normal to see a family giving food to those people who didn't have a home or food, years ago people had more love and concern for other people, marriages were made for love and equal sharing of goods and they were lasting marriages, but as technology started to evolve very quickly and people started to focus a lot on money

getting to the point where we see money being valued more than feelings, nowadays most women want houses with rich men, nowadays rich guys can sleep with most women, just see the horrors of this on Instagram in that many women started posting photos with little clothing to attract the attention of the rich. Nowadays, football players, F1 drivers, famous boxers, NBA players and many other rich athletes, when they have parties at their mansions, they invite famous women from Instagram and they have sex with them and give them money and the next day they leave and they are as if nothing had happened. When a person wins a lot of money in gambling games, that person will become the target of many women who will want their money.

and when all her money runs out, those women will abandon him and even though he sees them after many years, they pretend they don't know him, because he will be poor. It's hard to admit that our society is made up of perverse people, capable of pretending that they are happy with someone else's victory when inside their heads, they are filled with hatred and thinking about revenge. That's why I think people shouldn't show off their earnings all over the internet and shouldn't show off to their family, friends and neighbors because the chances are that many people will approach him pretending to love him while they just like his money. It's very big that this happens, unfortunately

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March 10, 2024, 04:21:41 PM
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I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure.

It is not a lie that things like this happen. Some friends are envious of their friend who have won bet especially if it is very huge and they themselves have not won that much. The envy is well expressed if the friend has not won a bet to a reasonable amount or even at all. It is always like a thing of comparison between what the friend won and what they have won too. But it should be understandable that some people envy your progress while some like it. So we just have to be careful to determine those who are happy with us and those who are friend and enemy. However, it is not advisable that you expose your winnings to everyone, it is better that they may know you have a winning but you can keep the value of your winning away from them except you are a streamer.

But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

Sure, some people may make you feel they are happy with your winning but they are not really happy with it in secret.
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March 10, 2024, 04:43:54 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy.

I think you are the only one who will enjoy the winnings. The other ones who will feel the real joy are the ones who are dependent upon you like your wife, your children and those who live in your home (to whom you are responsible for taking care of). The rest of the people will not be so happy. The good ones may feel a bit of joy seeing other happy but most of the people will feel jealous and they may be feeling bad inner self but apparently show you that they are happy.

I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

The is the real example of jealousy as most of people would not like the other person to grow and become rich. They want only themselves to be the ones making money and if they see or know that other people are making money and are happy, they become extremely jealous and sad. Some may even become depressed on knowing that the others have been doing good in life and gambling of course.

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March 10, 2024, 05:05:02 PM
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Anyone who would feel depressed about your winning, maybe a freind or your partner is a selfish person. We should be always happy whenever a gambling freind wins and we dont win. It doesnt have to be us all the time. I know how many times i have predicted some games and i did not end up betting if. But i gave it to my freinds and colleague of which they end up wining and i did not. Yeah it is painful but i have to be happy for them.
It's lucky if everyone has principles like you, I admit that I like these principles, and I'm happy when friends or other people win. However, this principle only applies to those who gamble for fun, not to those who purely seek profit from gambling, because these two things are very contradictory.

For some people, they can easily share a number of winnings with their friends which can be used as initial capital, and quite a few people also hide it for various reasons, are reluctant to share and it could be because their environment is not a healthy way of thinking. Indeed, in almost all activities, there are types of people who find it trouble to see other people happy, and who enjoy seeing other people having difficulties.

On the other hand, it all comes back to each individual, everyone has their own principles. If I am in a lucky position when gambling, I will willingly share a little of the winnings with the people closest to me, and will treat them to food.

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Basically, an individual will feel happy when he is satisfied with what he gets. and where a gambler's pleasure lies is when he gets a win, but that pleasure will disappear when a person tries to compare the results of the victory he obtained with the results of wins obtained by other people. So in other words, a gambler will never feel happy if he continues to feel jealous and always compares what he gets with what other people get. and unfortunately, this often gives rise to an ambition to continue gambling or place a bet, just to show that he is superior compared to other people. but instead of getting a victory that was greater than that obtained by other people, this actually led him to an even greater loss.

And so that this doesn't happen to us, be grateful for whatever small victory we get, because perhaps the small victory we achieve is a dream for those who continuously experience losses. Just keep gambling appropriately, and don't compare the wins you get with other people's wins.

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True, I think this kind of situation really happens, meaning that not everyone will be happy when they see a win that they managed to get in any amount, as you said here that most likely they will be in indifference to the win that was achieved by others or especially some of their fellow gamblers, especially if you brag too much to others about the win that you managed to get. It will only cause a gap, and maybe they just smile but their reaction is actually different from what is in their hearts and minds.

But it's a different story if you just share some of your winnings with others, which they will definitely respond positively to even though you might be bragging about your winnings, and that means it's all about the money, or money is in control. But overall I would agree with what the OP said that the bottom line is that it's better to hide information about your winnings from others, because sometimes this can lead to problems when some of them ask for a share of the winnings but you don't want to give it to them.

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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

I am a very reserved person, I do not see the need announcing my gambling win to anyone,  of what use will such information be to them?

Again, for security reasons, it is not adviceable to announce your gambling win or how much you've won, such announcements can attract lots of people who genuinely love you and those who will be bitter about your win, including thieves who would greedily want to have all you've won for yourself. You will become a target to many.

Avoid telling people you've got money on you and you will be free from lots of troubles. Many gamblers today cannot give account of what they used their gambling earnings to do because whenever they win, there will always be fake irresponsible friends around to ensure they squander the money until nothing is left.

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For some people, they can easily share a number of winnings with their friends which can be used as initial capital, and quite a few people also hide it for various reasons, are reluctant to share and it could be because their environment is not a healthy way of thinking. Indeed, in almost all activities, there are types of people who find it trouble to see other people happy, and who enjoy seeing other people having difficulties.

On the other hand, it all comes back to each individual, everyone has their own principles. If I am in a lucky position when gambling, I will willingly share a little of the winnings with the people closest to me, and will treat them to food.
Some gamblers also have an interesting aspect of human behavior and the dynamics of sharing winnings from gambling. They are generous and willingly share their winnings with friends. They use it as initial capital for further activities or simply as a gesture of goodwill. But there are also people who choose not to share their winnings due to past experiences or a lack of trust in their environment. It's not easy to be a nice person when money involved.

Sharing winnings or not can be influenced by the environment where there is a healthy attitude towards sharing and generosity that makes people may be more inclined to share their winnings. In environments where there is a lack of trust or a scarcity mindset, people may be more reluctant to share. It's true that in almost all activities, there are individuals who find pleasure in others' misfortune or struggle to see others happy. This aspect of human nature can influence the sharing behavior of individuals, because some may feel threatened by others' success. It's a complex interplay of individual values and social dynamics that shape sharing behavior in such situations.

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It does not only apply to gambling, actually, it also applies to anything which could be related to money: investments, savings, jobs, interests, banking, trading... One should never disclose one's positive situation to other without having a very good reason to do so beyond bragging about it. If anything, I would say one is only supposed to trust such information to one's closest family members who one could completely trust, no nobody else.
The sad reality is that there is a lot of bad people out there in the world, who could allow envy and bad thought to take over them, making them to try to steal your money or assets from you, one example of this is the simple Bitcoin 5$ Wrench attack. Though, in the same way someone could use a wrench to steal your satoshis, they could also do the same to take gold bards, silver coins, cash, your new Iphone you just bragged about, etc.

In societies where safety and economical equality are not a warranty by the state, one is better to play smarter and never to talk about money.
It does not manner how much you have, if you appear to be broke no one will to after you.

Take Vitalik Buterin as an example, he is a billionaire and still he dresses with a simple shirt and shorts all the time.  

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A human being's nature makes him greedy wanting to always own things and be the best at everything. When someone works hard and succeeds in his life especially financially, others gets jealous, some could take that person's success as an example and would try to do the same and be inspired, others who are lazy would just envy him and hate him for that.

So yes not everyone can be happy for another's wins except for maybe very close family members who would be happy that someone of them could make that amount of money for them to maybe rely on. I think that the only people who could be happy for your winnings genuinely are your parents because they love unconditionally.

It is always best to not talk a lot about your winnings and success to others to not jinx it or maybe to avoid the evil eye. Wise people know how to surround themselves with individuals they can trust and keep their circle small.

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First off, winning is great. You're right - it often reveals others' actual selves. The issue is facts, not analogies. First rule of business, sports betting, and trading: not everyone will be happy when you win. And why? Basically, envy. Honest joy from victory? A personal matter. Those closest to us who gain directly from our accomplishment will be ecstatic. But neighbors, coworkers, that coffee shop man you barely talk to? Ignore it. Their indifference or envy is predictable and pitiful. This is human nature and a sign that you're doing well.

You're right regarding friendships. Wealth, especially sudden wealth, tests relationships. Were your "friends" truly pals if they cant handle your success? In sports betting and trading, where fortunes can change in an instant, caution is key. Finally, one should believe in oneself and enjoy triumph with people who matter. Please let the rest observe and wonder. Their problem, not yours. Keep winning, be great, and let the chips fall.

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I think you should not share your financial information with anyone except the most trusted people. Because I believe in one thing that those who are your friends now, maybe they can be also your enemies tomorrow and then it will be easy for them to harm you if they know these things about you. Moreover, I also believe that if one person wins or earns more than the other person, jealousy can be created between those persons, and nothing good can ever be expected from that.
To put it more simply, let me give one more example, currently crypto currency is illegal in my country, there are many news that those who earn cryptocurrency are arrested by the police. And the fact that they are associated with cryptocurrency is informed by the people around them to the police so that they can take money from him by blackmail. This happened in our country a few days ago, a freelancer's 5 bitcoins were taken by a police member through blackmail.

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