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May 15, 2024, 04:41:47 PM
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Determine how often you gamble maybe it's once a week bi weekly or once a month.
Setting your own bar on how long you want to gamble or how much money you want to gamble is a good method to control your gambling related spending. There are people who are struggling to keep this going because it takes self-discipline and composed state to execute and gamblers lack these habits, reason why they became addicted in the first place.

But once they start doing it they will be able to overcome their addiction and eventually reduce the budget and end up with being able to save their savings.

The nature of gambling is such that it makes you play more by infusing the competitive spirit in you. The way to conquer this is to understand that your battle is not with the casino but with yourself.

How would one conclude within him that he's battling himself? That wouldn't be a battle. Generally, everyone feels the need to get, by force, the losses incurred in gambling. Although the self control sets in the moment a player have experienced the downside of such habit and decides to control it. Most players get swept off to the floor for not realizing the poor gambling habit they exhibit. Which ends up landing them to a financial trouble. Setting up an effective strategy helps the player to draw the line when he should.

The issue is not knowing when to take action. That's why players are being told of preparations. Since gambling is seen, by majority, as a competition, nobody goes for a such events without training or preparations. But most players think making money out of the game is the sole aim and nothing else should be acknowledge. Limitations and self control two strong factors that helps in preventing losing streaks, are being neglected, by new players, at a speed of light. It sounds unfamiliar, that's not what there were told, initially, of gambling. Not knowing how deep and exhausting gaming can become, leads to the damage of self control in most gamblers.

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May 15, 2024, 04:57:50 PM
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Control is everything when it comes to gambling, if you lack control and patience, you will barely be able to gamble responsibly because you won't be able to stop whether you are winning or losing. You will think you can recover your losses when you are losing and you will think you can win more when you are winning and it's all because you are mentally weak and have no control over your emotions and your emotions are driving you to do things that you shouldn't.

If we are not able to control it, it means we will become more addicted and will gamble at a different level.
For people who are addicted, it will be a little more difficult to stop, whether they are losing or experiencing luck. Because the desire to continue in the hope of getting a big win will be much stronger.
The lack of control also affects emotions and this kind of gambler will usually be much more difficult to advise. Controlling emotions in gambling is the same as controlling ourselves and if we fail then everything will be much more complicated.

Gambling addiction is always caused because someone is unable to control their gambling activities so that this is what makes them eventually enter the addiction phase, and it is very clear that when someone has entered the addiction phase then they will really find it difficult to stop gambling regardless of the situation, in fact if you have entered this phase then there is very little chance for you to stop, because usually when someone has entered the addiction phase then even if they manage to win but in the end they will still continue because they are unable to ignore the greed that is in them which in the end as we know that greed more often leads someone to significant regret.

So simply put, addiction is a situation where when you win you will be addicted and when you lose you will be even more curious, meaning there is absolutely no point that can make you stop regardless of the situation and conditions. And also addiction is a situation where the person already has a different mindset from normal people in general, they have a high level of confidence and hope in winning so that sometimes they do not hesitate to justify all means such as borrowing money, or stealing money just to gamble and they consider that it is an action that is not a problem to do, even though it clearly has the potential for significant adverse effects.

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May 15, 2024, 05:10:02 PM
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I stop when I lose, not because I am traumatize with the experience but I don't have money to continue playing. Everytime I gamble, I have a set budget on how much to spend and that's from my allocated money for leisure during payday. It's not a huge amount, just right to entertain myself.

Anyway, when a gambler wins that doesn't make them to completely stop. Instead, it only became a reason for them to continue playing since they're confident the same luck will hit again, not knowing the opposite is possible to happen. On the other side, for a gamblers who can't control themselves, a losing experience can only trigger them to chase their losses hoping to recover it. Thus, it depends on what type of gambler you are.
This is what every gambler must do, to be responsible or to control something that happens in gambling. The way you are wise enough when it comes to gambling is by allocating a few percent of your income from work, you don't force yourself to continue playing if your money has run out in gambling. Yes, of course we have to have limits in controlling ourselves when gambling. if we already win money there. Don't expect too much in the future to get bigger money there. Don't be too greedy for what you have got, stop and enjoy the benefits.

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May 15, 2024, 05:19:15 PM
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Determine how often you gamble maybe it's once a week bi weekly or once a month.
Setting your own bar on how long you want to gamble or how much money you want to gamble is a good method to control your gambling related spending. There are people who are struggling to keep this going because it takes self-discipline and composed state to execute and gamblers lack these habits, reason why they became addicted in the first place.

But once they start doing it they will be able to overcome their addiction and eventually reduce the budget and end up with being able to save their savings.

The nature of gambling is such that it makes you play more by infusing the competitive spirit in you. The way to conquer this is to understand that your battle is not with the casino but with yourself.

I also think that things with casinos should always be done using our limits with our money, so if we start to review, we cannot go overboard with things because otherwise we will lose all our money, it is something that is noticeable in leagues, I see When you see how important it is to win, everyone tries to do it but sometimes not , you have to have the Necessary control to not Continue betting large amounts, because it is not pleasant to lose and when you lose you have something in your pockets Nobody likes it, self-control must always exist, otherwise we will have Bad times.
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May 27, 2024, 10:12:20 AM
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How would one conclude within him that he's battling himself? That wouldn't be a battle.
The point of my comment is exactly this. You dont realize that the battle is with you only when attempting to control your desire. The first step is to recognize that the casino and its approach to the players is only to make the player get addicted to the game so they keep on spending their money. The second step is to see how much you have already lost having been under the control of your own greed. The next step is to stop the madness.

Indeed it is a tough thing to do and those who realize this quickly enough can walk away with the minimal losses and maximum life lessons.

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May 28, 2024, 07:57:47 AM
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The point of my comment is exactly this. You dont realize that the battle is with you only when attempting to control your desire. The first step is to recognize that the casino and its approach to the players is only to make the player get addicted to the game so they keep on spending their money. The second step is to see how much you have already lost having been under the control of your own greed. The next step is to stop the madness.

Indeed it is a tough thing to do and those who realize this quickly enough can walk away with the minimal losses and maximum life lessons.

Yeah, but honestly you don't even need to gamble a single time to understand how it works.

You can study probabilities, or even just see what happens in casinos.

Soon you realize that most people end up losing instead of winning.

There is an element of entertainment as well, which is valued differently by different people though.

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May 28, 2024, 08:57:51 AM
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To answer when is the right time to stop gambling, the answers will be quite varied, where people will answer when they experience a loss and others say when they get a big win.
But if it's me then when to stop gambling when there is no chance of achieving luck so that we can avoid the next loss.
Recovering previous losses in gambling is much more difficult because we can never predict how the next bet will end up. So when we don't have luck when betting, it's best to leave gambling and continue the next day.
Yes, it is an individual preference when to stop because not all the time we are lucky nor all gamblers destined to become lucky in gambling. In some cases even doing 1 month never wins a single time which I don't think we need to continue but rather stop. We may say that "we gamble just for fun" but in the case of a 1-month losing streak, that is not acceptable anymore and is an indication to just take a break and breathe sometimes. Even losing straight for 5 consecutive bets is something it tells us, it is worse if we wait longer (a month) for that before we decide IMO.
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To answer when is the right time to stop gambling, the answers will be quite varied, where people will answer when they experience a loss and others say when they get a big win.
But if it's me then when to stop gambling when there is no chance of achieving luck so that we can avoid the next loss.
Recovering previous losses in gambling is much more difficult because we can never predict how the next bet will end up. So when we don't have luck when betting, it's best to leave gambling and continue the next day.
Yes, it is an individual preference when to stop because not all the time we are lucky nor all gamblers destined to become lucky in gambling. In some cases even doing 1 month never wins a single time which I don't think we need to continue but rather stop. We may say that "we gamble just for fun" but in the case of a 1-month losing streak, that is not acceptable anymore and is an indication to just take a break and breathe sometimes. Even losing straight for 5 consecutive bets is something it tells us, it is worse if we wait longer (a month) for that before we decide IMO.
Some individuals get carried away with the excitement and the expectations from the bets to the point that their go beyond their budget and target even when they already won in the first couple of games, the failed to draw the line and few Factors contribute to such a decision to not withdraw such as greed, or the expectation of recovering their loses from the next bet, this is what have lead many into loses in recent time and at the end of the day the end up losing they motivations because of the results and outcome of their decision, so if an individual really want to succeed in their gambling management, the first thing to do is to have a. Limits placement at each point of the way, that way you protect yourself from every form of influence from within.

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August 11, 2024, 10:27:36 PM
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Drawing the line when you loose or when you win isn't what I think is realistic enough, rather what really do applies is keeping your greed and emotions in check, if you know how well to handle this two, then you will always know when best to exit the casino but when you have neither of these in check, you will never know when to draw the line because  you will be seeing is opportunities even when they do not exist.

Learning to keeping your mind in check at all times while gambling as a gambler Wii help a whole lot and this will even cover your risk management and your money management so you don't actually get your account drained while you are still trying.

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August 11, 2024, 10:29:35 PM
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To answer when is the right time to stop gambling, the answers will be quite varied, where people will answer when they experience a loss and others say when they get a big win.
But if it's me then when to stop gambling when there is no chance of achieving luck so that we can avoid the next loss.
Recovering previous losses in gambling is much more difficult because we can never predict how the next bet will end up. So when we don't have luck when betting, it's best to leave gambling and continue the next day.
Different gamblers have different gambling strategies that works for them and that's why I totally agree with you about the variation of answers to this topic. Personally I have my own moments when I draw the curtains whenever I'm betting. If it's a day I'm having a good day in gambling and winning, I quit immediately I start to experience loss and if it's a day I'm losing from start, I stop gambling when I've exhausted the amount I did set as my maximum I can lose at that particular time. This strategies have been helping me to avoid losing much money in gambling

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Learning to keeping your mind in check at all times while gambling as a gambler Wii help a whole lot and this will even cover your risk management and your money management so you don't actually get your account drained while you are still trying.

Let's say a player has achieved the skill of self-control as you said when would be the best moment to stop? For such players who stay in control, they hardly care about these results, they stop when their designated time for gambling is due. And that's a valid skill for every gambler to learn and practice.

It's not appropriate to permit win or loss as a criterion for decision-making. The player may become confused someday and can't remain consistent. Though it's easier to stop when we win, I'd encourage people to stop when the losses increase.

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Learning to keeping your mind in check at all times while gambling as a gambler Wii help a whole lot and this will even cover your risk management and your money management so you don't actually get your account drained while you are still trying.
Let's say a player has achieved the skill of self-control as you said when would be the best moment to stop? For such players who stay in control, they hardly care about these results, they stop when their designated time for gambling is due. And that's a valid skill for every gambler to learn and practice.

It's not appropriate to permit win or loss as a criterion for decision-making. The player may become confused someday and can't remain consistent. Though it's easier to stop when we win, I'd encourage people to stop when the losses increase.

And that I believe is hard to accomplish, for most gamblers. As they try their luck to win big, they continue to play even if they already have some winnings. They tend to find their big winnings up until they got wrecked and bankrupt their bankroll. Self-control is one attribute that everyone mostly fails.

Determine how often you gamble maybe it's once a week bi weekly or once a month.
Setting your own bar on how long you want to gamble or how much money you want to gamble is a good method to control your gambling related spending. There are people who are struggling to keep this going because it takes self-discipline and composed state to execute and gamblers lack these habits, reason why they became addicted in the first place.

But once they start doing it they will be able to overcome their addiction and eventually reduce the budget and end up with being able to save their savings.

The nature of gambling is such that it makes you play more by infusing the competitive spirit in you. The way to conquer this is to understand that your battle is not with the casino but with yourself.

Yourself is indeed your enemy when it comes to discipline. But if you do really want to stick with your budget or your plans, you will find a way how to motivate yourself to stop when you feel you are already going overboard.

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August 12, 2024, 06:58:57 AM
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When you lose. That is always the case especially if you lose control already.
I'm not sure if there are gamblers here who are that addicted actually that they don't sleep and just play all day chasing their loss. But people to themselves know they are in a situation when this happens to them.

When money becomes a problem already, its time to stop and start evaluating what's best to do. I think the friends and siblings will notice the person when something is wrong and so they can give advice if they are not admitting here in the forum.

You are absolutely right, when you lose is the best time to stop for the day so you won't be tempted to start chasing your losses,  at that point that's when your emotions starts kicking in...Yes there are gamblers that deprive themselves of their night rest chasing their profits, I was one of those gamblers, it was a very terrible addiction.. chasing your losses can get you stuck on gambling for a long time especially when you see every opportunity as a way of getting back everything you have lost.

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August 12, 2024, 07:02:52 AM
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when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?
1-when you lose?
2- when you win?

While most people here says that the best time to stop gambling is either of the two as long as you are within your limits and not trying to get past in everything you set on a threshold to avoid getting excessive loses. But, in my opinion, I think it is always better to stop when you are losing, again, that's to avoid getting further losses because that is where it leads to most of the time. In comparison, when you are winning, you will never get to worry when you lose in the next couple or so games as you still have the capital and you're gonna lose the part of your winnings yet. The problem will arise again when you are start losing and that you should start considering in making a stop at that point of time.


Totally, I agree here. Of course, it's also important to look after the prize you've got after the win so it won't vanish from your hands, but when you don't get the win you wanted, it's a top priority to see the odds in front of you and think about whether it's worth it or not.

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You are absolutely right, when you lose is the best time to stop for the day so you won't be tempted to start chasing your losses,  at that point that's when your emotions starts kicking in...Yes there are gamblers that deprive themselves of their night rest chasing their profits, I was one of those gamblers, it was a very terrible addiction.. chasing your losses can get you stuck on gambling for a long time especially when you see every opportunity as a way of getting back everything you have lost.

Another view would be that the best time to stop is when you win something, as that would be minimizing your losses.

But yeah, I think if you keep losing that actually affects your mind in a bad way so it would make sense to not continue.

Still, if you quite after winning your mind will stay in a positive way and maybe you don't want to continue gambling as you might just focus on using that money to buy something else instead, or save it.

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August 12, 2024, 01:21:39 PM
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Drawing the line when you loose or when you win isn't what I think is realistic enough, rather what really do applies is keeping your greed and emotions in check, if you know how well to handle this two, then you will always know when best to exit the casino but when you have neither of these in check, you will never know when to draw the line because  you will be seeing is opportunities even when they do not exist.

Learning to keeping your mind in check at all times while gambling as a gambler Wii help a whole lot and this will even cover your risk management and your money management so you don't actually get your account drained while you are still trying.
You're suggesting a smart gambler understands when to leave. True, but that's only the top of the iceberg. One thing is controlling emotions; another is knowing why you originally gamble. That is the true game-changer. It's about realizing the underlying cause rather than about suppressing the emotion

This transcends playing games. Everybody is in this gamble that life offers. We attempt to avoid the lows; we pursue highs and we take chances. Still, most people have no idea what motivates them. False opportunities and secret wants are tugging the thread

Approaching your judgments like a damn computer is the true test. Examine the results, figure the chances. It's about knowing why you started in the first place as much as about knowing when to stop. Mastery of the game of life depends on this

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August 13, 2024, 01:04:12 PM
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You're suggesting a smart gambler understands when to leave. True, but that's only the top of the iceberg. One thing is controlling emotions; another is knowing why you originally gamble. That is the true game-changer. It's about realizing the underlying cause rather than about suppressing the emotion

This transcends playing games. Everybody is in this gamble that life offers. We attempt to avoid the lows; we pursue highs and we take chances. Still, most people have no idea what motivates them. False opportunities and secret wants are tugging the thread

Approaching your judgments like a damn computer is the true test. Examine the results, figure the chances. It's about knowing why you started in the first place as much as about knowing when to stop. Mastery of the game of life depends on this

Yeah, but the thing is that in reality, as you know it, there is no way of knowing if the person actually doing that in the first place.

The people gambling will just want to make money, that is it, really.

There's nothing else really, there is no other metric in which you can think about this...

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August 13, 2024, 03:49:29 PM
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There is always a trap in gambling and foe a gambler to escape that trap is not easy. And the trap is one win and serval lose. When you win one big, you will be motivated to play more to win more so to draw the line when you are winning is not easy and not possible. But it is only possible when someone lose frequently. As for me I can't give the best option because I am not a chronic gambler and I gamble whenever I feel like or if there is spare funds in my wallet. And leaving gambling nis from the mind of the gambler and not because he lose big or win big. It is just a determination of the person. People are coming to game every day upon all the loses people face in the gambling section.

 
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August 13, 2024, 04:35:43 PM
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When we experience a losing streak, it is clear that it is time for us to stop betting. Because if you continue to bet, it will only make you lose everything. There is no good reason to continue betting when you are losing, because at that moment it will be difficult for you to control yourself and your emotions, so you will no longer have control over yourself. So yes, leaving gambling when you experience a losing streak is the right thing to do.

But, that doesn't mean that when you only experience consecutive losses you have to stop, because when you win there will also be time for you to stop. For example, let's say you bet with an initial capital of 10$ and you manage to make it 100$ and of course, this is also a success. However, if you have made it at least 150$ but then it decreases little by little or loses, then at that time you can set a limit to stop and perhaps also to make a withdrawal. Of course, there are moments where we can also continue betting with the winnings, but if you have or set limits at times like that, then I'm sure that will be a good decision too.

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August 13, 2024, 04:41:32 PM
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when is the best time to stop gambling and take a break?
1-when you lose?
2- when you win?

While most people here says that the best time to stop gambling is either of the two as long as you are within your limits and not trying to get past in everything you set on a threshold to avoid getting excessive loses. But, in my opinion, I think it is always better to stop when you are losing, again, that's to avoid getting further losses because that is where it leads to most of the time. In comparison, when you are winning, you will never get to worry when you lose in the next couple or so games as you still have the capital and you're gonna lose the part of your winnings yet. The problem will arise again when you are start losing and that you should start considering in making a stop at that point of time.


Totally, I agree here. Of course, it's also important to look after the prize you've got after the win so it won't vanish from your hands, but when you don't get the win you wanted, it's a top priority to see the odds in front of you and think about whether it's worth it or not.
Its never been recommended that you would really be trying out to make yourself on being or becoming a winner on the time that you would really be playing gambling because this would really be something that in resulting into that disaster on which we know that when it comes into this aspect then you would really be that basically making yourself having this kind of approach on which on which we know that this isnt something that could really be able to resist once that greed would really be kicking in. It would really be that so simple that you do make out those kind of suggestions or advises on quitting up or having a break but on the time or moment that you would really be finding yourself on that situation or you are the ones who is really that doing that then you wouldnt really be easily making yourself that see that you could really be able to stop midway.

Drawing up the line shouldnt really be on the time or moment that you are already that making up some huge loses or you have already sold out your house and lot or your car or any valuable posessions just because
you are really that indeed dealing up with gambling then tendency on getting addicted would really be high and on the time that you do have lost that control then you are just basically
messing up your entire life and you would really be having that regret on which you cant really be able to forget and this is why its important that you should really know on what you are doing
or trying out to have a good grasps on taking up good decisions on which you know that you could be able to stick on which one would really be better.

R


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