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March 19, 2024, 10:12:35 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

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March 19, 2024, 10:37:10 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

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March 19, 2024, 10:59:05 PM
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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

Well, this isn't a surprise. The number of suicides due to gambling is really high compared to other suicidal problems out there. This is what they want to influence their audience with and there's nothing to blame with this issue other than this influencer. Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

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March 19, 2024, 11:11:43 PM
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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

I don't think this is the solution and I don't believe it will have any positive effect.
Just like any niche market, advertising and sponsorship are vital to attracting new customers.
If they ban streamers, they will certainly find other ways to advertise both legally and illegally.

It is necessary for each person to be aware of the risks involved and know how to filter what they see between what is real and what is fabricated.
It is also the obligation of platforms to manage this type of content.

Anyway... blocking streamers might help at first, but I'm sure there would be other less controlled means of communication that players would look for in search of "infallible solutions to get rich".

The problem lies with the players who want to be scammed, not the streamers.

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I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.
Seek professional help if you have tried and failed personally many times before.

What do you think about this?
It is a sad thing and it paints more of a negative picture for gambling. Critics will be quick to fault gambling in general, where as the problem is not with gambling but irresponsible gambling that has led to addiction. We should try to be good examples of gamblers by gambling responsibly always.
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March 19, 2024, 11:12:54 PM
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What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
This news is just one of the many tales of people going to the extreme because of gambling addiction. The rate at which these celebrities promote gambling on their platform is becoming very alarming. The most disturbing part of it is that most of the followers of these celebrities are underaged. Many of them will enter the gambling space immature and might not be able to control their gambling behavior because they are not financially and emotionally balanced. I think there should be restrictions on gambling advertisements by these superstars because it seems they are not concerned about the well-being of their followers because of selfish reasons.

The most annoying part of the story that OP narrated is the lack of empathy or sympathy for the young chap who lost his life. Adin Ross and his team failed to know that the deceased might have become addicted by visiting his channel. He also failed to know that the youth who took his own life has friends and family members who are mourning the loss of a loved one. This is a clear indication that people only care about money and nothing else.

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March 19, 2024, 11:20:54 PM
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The problem is that a lot of their viewers (most especially the newbies) don't know what is going on. To them, they feel they are watching someone who is just extremely lucky and is constantly hitting the jackpot without knowing that they are either being sponsored or have an account that`s different from what other users are using, and when they eventually give the game a shot, they also increase their bankroll (trying to emulate the streamer's account, thinking it would yield the same result as that of the streamer), only for them to end up losing everything.

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Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

This is not a good sign, though. If the thought continues, then I'd advise that you take a break from gambling until the urge to take your life dies down.

The fear of having this type of thought or any other depressing thought was the reason I stopped streaming gamblers, because I don`t want a situation where I'll start having the "If I were the one" thought.

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March 19, 2024, 11:24:20 PM
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It's sad to see this kind of news. Even if it's old it should not be neglected.
The streamer obviously doesn't like being attacked even though he might be one of the roots behind why the young one killed himself. But it's not his fault entirely. That kid also has a family and they should've been aware of his actions especially if he is spending a lot of time on his computer.
Still, I would be happy if the streamer would show a little sympathy over the news even though it's old because this ain't something that we should just avoid. Gambling addiction and suicide are like twins, and this just shows that money can even control our lives. And those who are advertising them should be careful with what they are doing. They should not stop telling people to gamble responsibly and they should also be aware if kids are watching their clips because those young people don't know responsibility just yet and they might do stupid things that would ruin their lives.

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The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.
They just don't care this should lead to fans not supporting this kind of streamer because he is not sensitive to this kind of issue, it is just money for this kind of streamer, and don't care about their audience.

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Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

I'm not a big fan of streamers but the platforms should have strict guidelines when it comes to streamers promoting gambling platforms on their streams to avoid this kind of news that is disturbing they should partake of the responsibility.


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March 19, 2024, 11:32:23 PM
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The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.
They just don't care this should lead to fans not supporting this kind of streamer because he is not sensitive to this kind of issue, it is just money for this kind of streamer, and don't care about their audience.

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Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

I'm not a big fan of streamers but the platforms should have strict guidelines when it comes to streamers promoting gambling platforms on their streams to avoid this kind of news that is disturbing they should partake of the responsibility.
I don't know why people are so quick to commit suicide when things just start going south. It changes nothing. And your right if i am a fan of a streaming club or podcast and i am not sensitive to these kinds of acts i will immediately quit watching and not just that they would lose a fan like me i will also tell my friends and people around me who will avoid such things in the future. Sometimes they should people things into consideration before taking such actions. I know how many persons have been affected by this.

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March 19, 2024, 11:36:27 PM
Last edit: March 25, 2024, 06:27:24 PM by AmoreJaz
 #11

It's sad to see this kind of news. Even if it's old it should not be neglected.
The streamer obviously doesn't like being attacked even though he might be one of the roots behind why the young one killed himself. But it's not his fault entirely. That kid also has a family and they should've been aware of his actions especially if he is spending a lot of time on his computer.
Still, I would be happy if the streamer would show a little sympathy over the news even though it's old because this ain't something that we should just avoid. Gambling addiction and suicide are like twins, and this just shows that money can even control our lives. And those who are advertising them should be careful with what they are doing. They should not stop telling people to gamble responsibly and they should also be aware if kids are watching their clips because those young people don't know responsibility just yet and they might do stupid things that would ruin their lives.

The streamer can always remind his subscribers about their responsibilities as a gambler. The tragic event was not on streamer's fault as he didn't have direct influence in his subscriber's life. His influence is very limited to what he is showing to his audience. The responsibility relies on the person himself.

The family should also be aware of what's going on with their family members particularly those younger ones who can easily be influenced by social media. In today's generation, a lot of what's going on can be hidden from your parents or guardians. But if you are a parent, you can instill some basic virtues to your kids that you believe they will hold onto up until they grow up.

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Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

The problem was on Discord and not on Kick, a fan on Discord committed suicide while Adin was watching...

We know how gambling can ruin lives, if someone loses his life savings for sure he will think for a time about ending his life, but is a stupid move. First of all, we know the basic rules of gambling, and you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

This will only cause some drama around Adin, but nothing will change at all.

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The issue of having ethics in marketing is something that can be questioned when it comes to dealing with the behavior of Streamers. It is enough to see that when on TV, newspapers and even in leagues that are sponsored by a casino they advertise that same casino, there is always a warning warning people to gamble responsibly and informing people that gambling should not be seen as a source of income and that gambling should not be seen as forms of investment, and that there is a high risk of people losing money. This is a warning and mandatory information that you see on TV, newspapers and clubs that advertise gambling websites. but when you look at Streamer's, realize that they focus more on getting new customers for those casinos that paid them

Therefore, the Streamer forgets about honesty, forgets about ethics and starts lying to people, he becomes a character and acts in the videos, pretends that he is surprised by the victory or defeat during the game, pretends that he is playing with the player's money. their pocket, their performance is so good that they manage to convince many other people to play and think that they will win a lot of money with gambling games like the Streamer's that they saw. Streamers don't keep saying things like you shouldn't gamble with money you can't afford to lose, because if they kept talking about that, they would lose customers, that's why they don't say anything about the dangers of gambling, just stay in character during the Stream

I myself had a Stream channel that I sometimes watched, the guy was honest, but since last year when a big casino paid him a lot of money, the guy changed, he started to be dishonest with people, even though I saw that the big casino makes selective payments and scams, yet he continues to promote this casino and keeps acting during his Streamer's, he keeps laughing, he keeps pretending that he is surprised that he won. I stopped watching everything he posts since last year, because he became a person who acts in his videos, as if he were a great actor, he became dishonest. unfortunately this has happened a lot

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That's really sad for someone's fan to take his own life because of someone not listening to you. I do hope that these people in power that have a stream and reach try to see and be empathetic toward people who might be struggling with something. They should be controlled and accountable for what he is doing because of the fact that there are a lot of people who probably look up to him. It's a responsibility IMO.

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In my opinion, all those gambling streamers should be exterminated like the plague.  Most of them earn money by endorsing gambling platforms and streaming games with fake money, drawing in younger susceptible viewers vulnerable to addiction.  This is exactly why Twitch banned gambling livestreams.

Bro this is extreme.

I agree that something should be done about these streamers and their fake life or whatever. The have caused more harm than good.
I don't see the value that they are adding other than pull their young audience into gambling addiction and its attendant mental health issues.

Personally, there have been times when I've thought about taking my life but I always remind myself that it's just a bad day and for sure tomorrow will be different. I want to quit gambling but I can't. I don't know why. Hopefully this won't happen to me.

This should be taken seriously. Seeking help is the best thing that you can do for yourself.

I know it is not going to be easy but do not hide your addiction from someone who you know you can trust and whose opinion you value. You can beat it because there are countless others that have.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?
At the end of the day, Kick is a business entity and with that, they can still Adin Ross to continue as he is one of their biggest streamers as you have said. Even myself have seen him play. And in response by the editor, he blurted it out and it was put out of context. He said that he thought that Adin Ross already knew the news about it and so he called it "old news". However, we really don't want to hear this kind of bad news and this is the worst thing that gambling can bring to us. Our decisions are very clouded and we can't really separated the reality. Hopefully, this will be the last time that we will hear this news as everyone can recover from our gambling addiction and not thinking of ending our precious life.

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A sad reality of online streaming that also doubles as a gambling promotion is that it can have unknown consequences with its widespread reach. As it recently came to light, a fan of Adin Ross took his own life. The controversy however was much more than just this fact. The controversy stemmed from the fact that Adin Ross' editor, being completely apathetic to these news of a man taking his own life, called it "old news" in a dismissive tone.

Source: https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-rip-him-adin-ross-editor-confirms-kick-star-reacted-fan-taking-life-due-gambling-addiction

Adin Ross is one of the most famous streamers in the world right now, with his content having hundreds of thousands of hours in watch time. Of course much of his content is direct promotion to slots games and such gambling. Perhaps Kick should add some limits to how "controversial" a streamer can be in their platform. People like Ross were banned from twitch after maaany violations.

What do you think about this? Do such people deserve a platform even on Kick?

It was a bad statement from the editor. Even if they believed they have zero reasons to be called into it, they should have atleast shown some sympathy afterall it's another human dying. I too don't believe the Adin Ross or his team has not incited the suicide in any way and that was the personal decision of the fan.
Streamers or any public figure in general are closely followed by their fans and even the creators intention might not have been bad, every small thing shown, spoke or referred by they has a positive or negative impact. So, they always need to be humble and corrective when it comes to dealing with public. Failing to do so would create controversy and hurt their own popularity.



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This further worsens the image of the gambling industry because things related to gambling such as murder, violence or domestic violence, harassment and so on, ordinary people will blame gambling.
In fact, it's because of their own stupid carelessness, and I don't really care about negative gambling-related news even if it's just manipulation or whatever. However, ordinary people will assume or judge that the gambling industry is the problem.

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I’ve always frown so hard at gambling streamers because i think and feel most of their contents aren’t real and they are maybe some sort of calculated attempt to lure young and gullible players to the site to maybe earn some affiliate commissions at the end and I think these streamers are causing more harm then good and in my country, I’ve seen a lot of adverts from content creators about a particular local game “WAJE GAMES” and one thing I’ve noticed is that, they make it seem there is no loss in the game but when you finally give it a trial, there are extremely very slim chances of you making a win and I’ve also heard about several people who tried  the above mentioned game, I concluded the game is a scam but there are still adverts going on by famous content creators in my country and those adverts have high potentials and possibilities of leading their fans astray.

Addictions is a very crucial issue gambling and I think we shouldn’t castigate addicted but we should rather seek ways to comfort them as it could possibly be anyone a anytime.

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This is one of the major negative consequences that can occur when a player is not aware of the risks involved in gambling, especially when they are influenced just because they saw it on a streaming platform. Its effect varies on different individuals, especially when they have different perspectives, they might misunderstand, especially if there's something wrong on the part of a streamer promoting gambling.

Kick should consider implementing stricter guidelines regarding the content and behavior of streamers, particularly when it involves controversial or potentially harmful topics like gambling addiction.

Even on Meta, there are many of these, former gamer streamers playing slot games and boasting about their large bankrolls. I'm not sure, but I don't think that's their own money; it's probably just used for them as part of promotion. Many children have access to Facebook and enjoy watching videos, so they might develop an interest in this at a young age. That's why I've unfollowed content creators like these now.


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