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May 24, 2024, 03:55:36 PM
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Afraid to get addicted - dont gamble. Pretty simple. Getting addicted to something is individual problem. There are people who gamble for many years and still not addicted. There are people who have lost their first bet, now chase that loss and all they think is how to stop this and end with profit. Imho it is impossible to tell when or after which bet a switch in brain will trigger and person get addicted. Important notice - repeatedly doing something does not mean addiction. Habit is not an addiction.
Addiction can still be avoided by those who can gamble wisely in all matters such as their budget, time, or actions. but defeat is inevitable. So maybe it's more accurate if you're not ready to lose or lose money then don't gamble. Gambling addiction is of course a consequence that will occur if they gamble excessively, such as with their budget or actions that exceed their limits. also with losses that are certain to occur, it will make them addicted to gambling if they are not ready to lose money or are not ready to lose.

with those who gamble or make bets for the first time, the chance of becoming addicted is very big, especially if in their first gambling or betting they get pleasant results such as winning, of course brain changes will occur where they can think that they can make money by gambling and Of course, that is wrong thinking because it will only make them addicted or addicted to gambling Maybe the key is that they have to have good self-control and if they don't have it yet, they have to be able to learn to control themselves so they don't gamble excessively.

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May 25, 2024, 05:57:49 AM
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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Rather than regretting it in the end, it would be better for them to prevent it from the start, because prevention is better than cure. This must be taken into account so that they are not careless in deciding what decisions to make. Apart from that, I think of course beginners will only think about the positive side of gambling, namely winning, it is very unlikely that they will be able to think about the negative side of gambling.
You must first comprehend expected value. This is the long-term average for gambling. Most gambling games favor the house since they have a larger expected value than the participants. It gives them an edge. What does this mean for you? Long-term gamblers are more likely to lose than win. Just math. Beginners must understand this since they often get taken in by significant winnings without understanding the long-term probabilities

You should gamble, but do it smartly. So risk management is needed. Knowing your loss tolerance, setting limitations, and sticking to them is key. Gambling should be fun, not profitable. Consider this: you wouldn't put your life savings in one stock, right? Diversify, spread risk. Gambling deserves equal treatment. It's not just about money. Playing gambling can be addicted, which is worrying. Thus, knowing the indications of addiction and when to leave is crucial. We should all discuss that more openly

Of course the host has a greater chance of winning, and with us the others are likely to only have long-term losses. considering that gambling is a game of chance for the players, the chance of winning is smaller than the chance of losing, but for the host of course they have a definite chance of winning and of course this cannot be changed. It's true that beginners are usually locked in their thinking by the wins they've had, they think the first win is a good start, but I think even if they win it's the start of a loss, and if they make money it's the start of a loss. Beginners must be able to understand this so that they don't get caught in big losses.

of the many gamblers, of course most of them are gamblers who are easily carried away by their emotions so that in many cases there are big losses. only a few intelligent gamblers can gamble. Indeed, it cannot be hidden that gambling can really make us addicted to the point where we can spend all the money we have, especially if we don't have good self-control, a strong addiction will occur.

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May 25, 2024, 07:24:49 AM
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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Yes, it's a good step to tell beginners about the bad experiences that experienced gamblers have had and hopefully this step can really make beginners aware so they don't get addicted to the gambling they do.
And I hope that beginners can be more careful because the temptation before their eyes is definitely waiting for them.

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May 25, 2024, 06:43:45 PM
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Afraid to get addicted - dont gamble. Pretty simple. Getting addicted to something is individual problem. There are people who gamble for many years and still not addicted. There are people who have lost their first bet, now chase that loss and all they think is how to stop this and end with profit. Imho it is impossible to tell when or after which bet a switch in brain will trigger and person get addicted. Important notice - repeatedly doing something does not mean addiction. Habit is not an addiction.
Well, I see your first sentence to be inaccurate, as it's not proper to cut the head simply because you are having a headache, gambling is not an automatic means to get addicted to it but how people take it causes the addiction. If you can't control yourself, especially your emotions and mind regarding gambling, then it becomes a problem. But this problem is not directly orchestrated by gambling but by the weak minds of the gamblers, so should we now entirely avoid gambling just because we are not man enough to be cautious and control ourselves, I say No. I for one is not addicted to gambling and what has helped me most is the fact that I do not take anything too seriously, esevailly when it involves money. This is in addition to the fact that I have a very strong mind, I mean I have my on mind that I can control actively, and this has helped me to have my say over gambling.

As for beginners or anyone who is fighting gambling addiction, they should go back to their drawing table of initial learning and mind shaping towards it, if not, it will never stop and it could get aggravated into more issues. If gamblers are pre-warned about the issue of gambling and prepared to be cautious towards it, it will never be an issue for them. They will gamble with care and calculatively, to the point that they will never put their minds on the money to be made through gambling but will always resort to the true fact that gambling is more luck-inclined and nothing more.

With this understanding, and with the right preparation and expertise in the areas of planning, budgeting and management, and also in the preservation of a balanced psychology, I am sure that the gambler will be a better person void of addiction and other gambling issues.

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May 26, 2024, 05:14:19 PM
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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Rather than regretting it in the end, it would be better for them to prevent it from the start, because prevention is better than cure. This must be taken into account so that they are not careless in deciding what decisions to make. Apart from that, I think of course beginners will only think about the positive side of gambling, namely winning, it is very unlikely that they will be able to think about the negative side of gambling.
That is a flaw that is often present in most people, they only think about the positive outcomes they can get, but they hardly think about the negative consequences their actions may carry, a huge mistake as in the case of gambling, it is quite likely that the negative outcomes get to happen, and if you are not psychologically ready to face them, it could not be long until you take mistaken decisions when that happens, which could cause you some terrible losses.



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Ideally, the dangers of gambling entertainment should be talked about in some format as early as high school. Young people should realise that there are no free ways to get rich, and that some effort is required everywhere. One in a million can become rich just like that (unfortunately, I do not have exact statistics). And this must be kept in mind and do not forget when you dive headlong into gambling entertainment.

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That is a flaw that is often present in most people, they only think about the positive outcomes they can get, but they hardly think about the negative consequences their actions may carry, a huge mistake as in the case of gambling, it is quite likely that the negative outcomes get to happen, and if you are not psychologically ready to face them, it could not be long until you take mistaken decisions when that happens, which could cause you some terrible losses.

Indeed this is the mindset of most newbies in gambling and that is were they get it all wrong. Everything has it advantage and disadvantages but when you fail to consider the disadvantages you might as well end up walking towards that part without you even knowing. There is a saying that, you cannot solve a problem when you don't know the cause. Having the consciousness that gambling will not always favour you, will help you keep a discipline financial behaviour. So a beginner must first know the dangers of gambling because most of them get referred based on wins from their friends and all the pictures  they have have in mind is how gambling  can make them rich overnight.

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Ideally, the dangers of gambling entertainment should be talked about in some format as early as high school. Young people should realise that there are no free ways to get rich, and that some effort is required everywhere. One in a million can become rich just like that (unfortunately, I do not have exact statistics). And this must be kept in mind and do not forget when you dive headlong into gambling entertainment.
Before thinking about this I think you have to look into the fact that there's no bad publicity. Young people don't care about the good aspect of some of the things they have been taught in school. What matters is that they hear it, nobody knows if the kids would practice it or not. So, talking about gambling addiction in school is just another form of publicizing gambling to the young students. It can actually impact into their life in a strange way, that is, negatively, because they would want to try it out. Think of how sex education has been taught in schools but people still don't look into having safe sex. Premarital sex is still on the increase across the world.

Although it helps to teach young people about gambling and how difficult it is to earn money. But, that should be the work of their parents, not school teachers. Students get pressured by their peers to try gambling. And when it's discussed in school, they'll have a set of pupil who wouldn't learn what is being taught. When they get home they'll want to research about it and then delve into the niche unprepared. If the task is left for parents to handle, they could help their children escape addiction. However, children are exposed to gambling ads all over the net, with their parents always busy with work. Yet I don't think teaching responsible gambling in school would be beneficial to school kids.

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May 26, 2024, 06:32:09 PM
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The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

 I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I doubt if the reason of gambling addict is as a result of not understanding what gambling is all about because there are numerous of people who knows and understand what gambling is all about and the chances of becoming an addict and after knowing all this things most of them still end up becoming an addict, so I don't think lack of gambling understanding is the major factor that causes gambling addict but however I think is an individual fault because at the moment someone doesn't have control of what he is doing then he becomes vulnerable to it.

So I believe that's one of the reasons why most people easily get addicted, though gambling addiction could come from so many ways such as gambling with a particular amount and after losing it you intend to continue gambling in other to win back the money and before you could realize yourself you had already drone to gambling were it will be very difficult to stop so that's actually how most of the people became an addict today, so however I think they best way for a gambler to be safe is to budget a particular amount of money he will be using for a gambling either on a month or more and never to go beyond that even if he loses or win.

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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Rather than regretting it in the end, it would be better for them to prevent it from the start, because prevention is better than cure. This must be taken into account so that they are not careless in deciding what decisions to make. Apart from that, I think of course beginners will only think about the positive side of gambling, namely winning, it is very unlikely that they will be able to think about the negative side of gambling.
That is a flaw that is often present in most people, they only think about the positive outcomes they can get, but they hardly think about the negative consequences their actions may carry, a huge mistake as in the case of gambling, it is quite likely that the negative outcomes get to happen, and if you are not psychologically ready to face them, it could not be long until you take mistaken decisions when that happens, which could cause you some terrible losses.

So far yes what you said is true that most of them beginners tend to always focus on the positive results rather than the negative impact, and it is a fact that many beginners come because they are tempted by the victories achieved by other people they see without knowing that the people they see have actually experienced various bad events such as losing significant amounts of money in the process of their gambling involvement, and they also do not know that the big wins made by other people are actually nothing more than the result of luck that comes at the right time.

In some cases, beginners will get caught up in the dopamine rush in their brain when they manage to win big in the beginning of their gambling which will form a more chaotic mindset that will be more harmful to themselves in the long run, they will not hesitate to make various out-of-control decisions that have the potential to have a negative impact. Therefore, I honestly always suggest or give an understanding of how gambling actually works to beginners who want to get involved in gambling.

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Unfortunately many people didn't have a same brain like you @OP, their brain aren't working, that's why many gamblers are become addicts. There have been few seminars that talks about gambling disorder and the guests are the casinos' owners or employees, which mean they're already tried to educate people to not become an addict. However most people don't want to join this kind seminars because they think it's wasting time, so the problem is the people.

Some gamblers aren't open minded I guess that is why they just ignore it or maybe they don't have time for it instead focus on gambling. Seminars are good but the way people absorb what's in it depends on one's principle in life and attitude as a gambler, some people find it interesting to attend and some are not having it.



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Afraid to get addicted - dont gamble. Pretty simple. Getting addicted to something is individual problem. There are people who gamble for many years and still not addicted. There are people who have lost their first bet, now chase that loss and all they think is how to stop this and end with profit. Imho it is impossible to tell when or after which bet a switch in brain will trigger and person get addicted. Important notice - repeatedly doing something does not mean addiction. Habit is not an addiction.
Addiction can still be avoided by those who can gamble wisely in all matters such as their budget, time, or actions. but defeat is inevitable. So maybe it's more accurate if you're not ready to lose or lose money then don't gamble. Gambling addiction is of course a consequence that will occur if they gamble excessively, such as with their budget or actions that exceed their limits. also with losses that are certain to occur, it will make them addicted to gambling if they are not ready to lose money or are not ready to lose.

with those who gamble or make bets for the first time, the chance of becoming addicted is very big, especially if in their first gambling or betting they get pleasant results such as winning, of course brain changes will occur where they can think that they can make money by gambling and Of course, that is wrong thinking because it will only make them addicted or addicted to gambling Maybe the key is that they have to have good self-control and if they don't have it yet, they have to be able to learn to control themselves so they don't gamble excessively.
but rarely do people play gambling wisely in terms of time and action, budget allocation. It's really fun to gamble wisely and be able to control it. Don't follow passions in the hope of big wins. But people who are addicted to gambling are already in disarray with self-inflicted attitudes that have a big impact on destroying their lives. Everyone definitely has the opportunity to be in a better condition, even though it is very difficult to change to avoid addiction.

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May 26, 2024, 07:14:24 PM
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It seems to me that we cannot influence in any way those who have come to gambling or betting, and are trying to make money in this way, or arrange emotional fun for themselves. We don't know the past of every person, maybe someone is genetically predisposed to addiction, maybe someone had a difficult childhood...
There are a lot of factors that correct personality behavior, and we cannot know them.

That's why I think it's enough for beginners to show videos about healed gamblers, but they can't be influenced in any way.

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May 27, 2024, 09:41:21 AM
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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Rather than regretting it in the end, it would be better for them to prevent it from the start, because prevention is better than cure. This must be taken into account so that they are not careless in deciding what decisions to make. Apart from that, I think of course beginners will only think about the positive side of gambling, namely winning, it is very unlikely that they will be able to think about the negative side of gambling.
That is a flaw that is often present in most people, they only think about the positive outcomes they can get, but they hardly think about the negative consequences their actions may carry, a huge mistake as in the case of gambling, it is quite likely that the negative outcomes get to happen, and if you are not psychologically ready to face them, it could not be long until you take mistaken decisions when that happens, which could cause you some terrible losses.

So far yes what you said is true that most of them beginners tend to always focus on the positive results rather than the negative impact, and it is a fact that many beginners come because they are tempted by the victories achieved by other people they see without knowing that the people they see have actually experienced various bad events such as losing significant amounts of money in the process of their gambling involvement, and they also do not know that the big wins made by other people are actually nothing more than the result of luck that comes at the right time.

In some cases, beginners will get caught up in the dopamine rush in their brain when they manage to win big in the beginning of their gambling which will form a more chaotic mindset that will be more harmful to themselves in the long run, they will not hesitate to make various out-of-control decisions that have the potential to have a negative impact. Therefore, I honestly always suggest or give an understanding of how gambling actually works to beginners who want to get involved in gambling.
Gambling is more than simply luck. Most people dont comprehend its dark psychology. As you said, newbies are blinded by glitz and glamour and sudden billionaires. The endless hours of loss, rising debt, and destroyed relationships are hidden from them. Like a siren song, it promises easy money but leaves people shipwrecked and broke.

Also, that dopamine rush? Its deadly. It changes your brain, making you want the next big win even when you're down. Its a vicious cycle that's hard to escape. Thus, education matters. We must inform individuals of the risks, odds, and catastrophic potential. We must demonstrate gambling's reality, not fiction.

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May 27, 2024, 10:43:14 AM
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Gambling's "what if" thrill can hook you. The uncertainty and a chance to win keep people coming back. Man, chance rules. No plan will affect the odds. You can boost your odds. Knowing the game and odds is important. Knowledge and strategy help poker players calculate pot odds and make smarter plays.  Ultimately, luck is uncontrollable. Listen, stories of turning a little gamble into a fortune are rare. Enjoy the game, but be wise about it. Know your limit, turn away, and don't chase losses

I think "don't chase your losses" can be a very useful advice to beginners. Many gamblers lose much more than what they were wanting to recover in the beginning because of this destructive process. I think, in reality we all do that sometimes. No gambler, even an experienced one, is immune to that. It often happens with me too. I lose $5 and I think I will just take that back and I quit. But I lose $20 more instead. And than I stop, because I don't want to lose even more. It is very important to stop when you lost $25 already. It is very important to not try to recover that amount. You should know that it can become $100 and then $200 and so on.
Loss chasing is the way that leads to addiction. This is why beginners should not see gambling as a get rich quick activity because if they do, they will finally get trapped with chasing their losses and they must become gambling addicts.

What I will advice beginners is only to gamble with the amount of money that they can afford to lose, and they should also see gambling as a means of losing money. It is only people that loves the fun in gambling that should gamble because they understand that their chances of running at loss is higher than winning which has made them to gamble responsible.


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May 27, 2024, 12:21:06 PM
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So far yes what you said is true that most of them beginners tend to always focus on the positive results rather than the negative impact, and it is a fact that many beginners come because they are tempted by the victories achieved by other people they see without knowing that the people they see have actually experienced various bad events such as losing significant amounts of money in the process of their gambling involvement, and they also do not know that the big wins made by other people are actually nothing more than the result of luck that comes at the right time.

In some cases, beginners will get caught up in the dopamine rush in their brain when they manage to win big in the beginning of their gambling which will form a more chaotic mindset that will be more harmful to themselves in the long run, they will not hesitate to make various out-of-control decisions that have the potential to have a negative impact. Therefore, I honestly always suggest or give an understanding of how gambling actually works to beginners who want to get involved in gambling.
Gambling is more than simply luck. Most people dont comprehend its dark psychology. As you said, newbies are blinded by glitz and glamour and sudden billionaires. The endless hours of loss, rising debt, and destroyed relationships are hidden from them. Like a siren song, it promises easy money but leaves people shipwrecked and broke.

Also, that dopamine rush? Its deadly. It changes your brain, making you want the next big win even when you're down. Its a vicious cycle that's hard to escape. Thus, education matters. We must inform individuals of the risks, odds, and catastrophic potential. We must demonstrate gambling's reality, not fiction.

Yes but beginners like to feel that they will always be able to get lucky, or they feel that they will always be able to produce wins in every time they run their gambling sessions, I don't know what the reason is but certainly they are obsessed and also they have a high enough confidence which is a mindset based on the amount of hope for victory, on the other hand one of the other reasons is that the wins produced by other people they see really become a big motivation for a novice gambler, indirectly they become very confident that they will also be able to produce the same wins as others without understanding the dark side of gambling.

One of the terrible things about the situation is that the flow of dopamine that dominates, especially when they manage to win a large enough victory, usually the situation can completely eliminate consciousness, Excessive excitement and pleasure can trigger uncontrollable sensations and it can eliminate the level of consciousness slowly and this is what makes gamblers do not hesitate to bet again with a much larger budget in pursuit of bigger wins based on confidence and higher expectations but in the end yes usually the opposite happens where the results do not match their expectations and the situation can trigger emotions and various out-of-control actions that will lead them to more significant regret, And yes it's true that try that we always try to give real understanding to beginners especially those we know, it never hurts to help others for good.

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May 28, 2024, 08:01:20 AM
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It seems to me that we cannot influence in any way those who have come to gambling or betting, and are trying to make money in this way, or arrange emotional fun for themselves. We don't know the past of every person, maybe someone is genetically predisposed to addiction, maybe someone had a difficult childhood...
There are a lot of factors that correct personality behavior, and we cannot know them.

That's why I think it's enough for beginners to show videos about healed gamblers, but they can't be influenced in any way.

Maybe it would be even better to show the worst that can happen when gambling. That's something that casinos definitely don't want to be seen.

They only show the good parts. Also gamblers will always just share their wins, never their losses.

If someone is OK with that, then fair enough. At the end of the day everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their lives.

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May 28, 2024, 10:13:10 AM
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Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Rather than regretting it in the end, it would be better for them to prevent it from the start, because prevention is better than cure. This must be taken into account so that they are not careless in deciding what decisions to make. Apart from that, I think of course beginners will only think about the positive side of gambling, namely winning, it is very unlikely that they will be able to think about the negative side of gambling.
That is a flaw that is often present in most people, they only think about the positive outcomes they can get, but they hardly think about the negative consequences their actions may carry, a huge mistake as in the case of gambling, it is quite likely that the negative outcomes get to happen, and if you are not psychologically ready to face them, it could not be long until you take mistaken decisions when that happens, which could cause you some terrible losses.

Maybe this happens because they really want to win at gambling so they ignore the risks that definitely happen in gambling. even though in fact they shouldn't only think about the positive side, but with those who have been influenced by gambling, it's not surprising that they continue to gamble even though it always ends with disappointing results. they continue to gamble with the same goal of being able to get a win that can restore or reverse their situation. but unfortunately actions like that will only put them in a difficult position and their chances of losing more money are very large.

The hope for beginners is not to misunderstand gambling, don't think that gambling is a means that can make money for sure, besides that, don't put big hopes on gambling because it will only lead them to an unprofitable point. It's better to gamble appropriately and not excessively. If the gambling you've done has ended in defeat then you should just stop, don't think you can turn things around by gambling again.

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May 28, 2024, 10:42:12 AM
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It seems to me that we cannot influence in any way those who have come to gambling or betting, and are trying to make money in this way, or arrange emotional fun for themselves. We don't know the past of every person, maybe someone is genetically predisposed to addiction, maybe someone had a difficult childhood...
There are a lot of factors that correct personality behavior, and we cannot know them.

That's why I think it's enough for beginners to show videos about healed gamblers, but they can't be influenced in any way.
I personally find your idea of ​​watching interviews interesting and useful, I mention it here often because it helps me a lot when I see what long-time addicted gamblers talk about. I can imagine how difficult it was for them to decide to go to these interviews, show their faces and admit to all their relatives, friends and classmates that they have an addiction and large debts. But in this way they protect inexperienced players, they indirectly influence them, because if new players begin to feel like they are becoming dependent, they may have a defensive reaction and they will stop, at least for a while. Of course, we will not be able to calculate the real number of those who were helped by this, but the fact that this will be measured in thousands of players who do not take that fatal step is a fact.

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May 28, 2024, 11:25:31 AM
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If a new gambler talks to you before gambling, you can give him the right idea about gambling, but if the gambler expresses his desire to gamble on his own without talking to you, you cannot help him in this regard. When a person wants to know about something, we can tell him about it, but when he does it himself without wanting to know and he keeps it secret, then we have nothing to do. Gambling has become a very accessible thing now so a gambler gets involved in various gambling games very easily and all the gamblers who get involved in gambling in the new situation get addicted to gambling due to some mistakes. In this case, if the new gamblers are not careful about themselves, then they will be in danger later on.
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