Is gambling problem or anything related to addiction is an off-topic?

[Poker Player]

I just reported one and thought of this thread:

Gambling problems on different races

Really? As if there weren't enough threads on that topic to have another one about what's supposed to happen with gambling supposedly to people of different races. Plus the dumbass in the OP confuses "races" with economic and socio-cultural contexts.

[Eternad]

Another topic that moved to off-topic despite the discussion is all about gambling.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487686.0


I have a suggestion regarding this issue, Instead of moving it to the off-topic board which is not the best place to discuss this topic no matter how low the quality because it's still on-topic to the board.

What if we dedicated another child board to the gambling section for this kind of discussion for gambling addiction and other gambling problems should be discussed there while maintaining the gambling discussion board for sports, strategy and other stuff related to gambling gameplay?

Is this a viable solution sir @hilariousandco?

[Mpamaegbu]

My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

That's my guess too. The redundancy of such a topic for discussion would've made it boring to mods who possibly have realized that such topics cause spamming on the forum. To abate spamming, moving such topics to the "Off-Topic" section easily do the magic. That won't be far from mods decision for moving OP's thread. Users in signature campaigns have less allure posting there because posts in Off-Topic don't count towards the weekly quota in signature campaigns.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Deeply looking towards the gambling board you would see that there are lots of topics or post that are related to gambling addition, where mods or admin could start seeing them as spamming. I think gambling addiction post should be pinned on the gambling discussion board to reduce gambling addiction post.

Yes, you are absolutely right on what you said, because failure of we having a singular thread for all gambling related discussion is the reason for the repetition of threads, which was moved to off-topic of recent by the moderators in charge, Because truly if only we had singular dedicated threads such as "Gambling addiction & solution, Gambling Advice, Gambling tips & tricks" e.t.c where all new & old gambling discussion are been made just like in the case of "Premier league prediction, La Liga, Bundesliga, Basketball and Cricket", this would have drastically deduced the rate at which people make duplicate threads, most especially newbie forum users.

Hence, making a clear new rules by our moderators about what likely to be a potential gambling off-topic or full topic will go a long way saving many from creating a topic that will later be move to off-topic board. Thanks

[stompix]

My topic is about experience sharing on how gambling addiction start to each gambler we have different cases due to our gameplay. I personally value opinions on gambling it’s the way we share our hardships on gambling as fellow gambler.

Common, be honest, what did your topic have that the rest didn't?

I'm always wondering how an addiction starts for everyone because I'm sure that we have different experiences with gambling that will contribute to an addiction. Frequently gambling is one of the most common reasons why a player gets addicted. So I'm thinking before you become involved in frequent gambling behaviour what is the sign that you notice that you are doing when you gamble?

Mine is I always check my wallet balance to check my current profit then place a small bet without any reason just to gamble and increase my profit. This makes me gamble frequently because of the greediness to earn more until I become hooked and worst is when I lose everything on a bad day.

You're asking people to share what they think on gambling addiction, and what a surprise the same people reply with the same stuff that they posted on a different topic with the same theme but rephrasing their former posts.
Furthermore, after getting 50 replies in 24 hours, after being moved to off-topic there is not a single one, you do realize just as well that everyone did that for their quota, right?

And here we go, another one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491817.0

Seriously what do you think will come out of those?

I would move all those topics about the experience,the fun, family and addiction that involves gambling to offtopic and leave the gambling section for gambling on sport and odds discussions only!

I have a suggestion regarding this issue, Instead of moving it to the off-topic board which is not the best place to discuss this topic no matter how low the quality because it's still on-topic to the board.

Again, I'm asking you to be honest!
The only real problem with the topic being off-topic is that CM don't pay for a post in off-topic!
Nobody is stopping people from commenting there, but they don't because they don't give a f-word about something they are not getting paid for.

[uchegod-21]

In bitcoin discussion board for instance, any post talking about bitcoin and its investment will not be regarded as an off topic. If you take same standard to the gambling and gambling discussion sub boards, any thread containing gambling key words ought not to be an off topic. But most times, it is not so. It is always at the discretion of the board moderator to check if such a topic is repetitive. It might not be an off topic thread, but if it is repetitive and generic, it could be moved to off topic or be trashed.

My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

That's my guess too. The redundancy of such a topic for discussion would've made it boring to mods who possibly have realized that such topics cause spamming on the forum. To abate spamming, moving such topics to the "Off-Topic" section easily do the magic. That won't be far from mods decision for moving OP's thread. Users in signature campaigns have less allure posting there because posts in Off-Topic don't count towards the weekly quota in signature campaigns.

Most of the signature participants promoting casino are not grounded in gambling discussions so they tend to create generic gambling related posts where post quotas would be completed.

[Rruchi man]

This kind of topic was allowed before since addiction is a huge part of gambling in general.

They were allowed and overlooked before, but now the mods in the gambling board are fed up, and have decided to become active to reduce spamming and low quality topics.  In the recent weeks, many topics have been moved to the off topic board, but in the gambling board, I still see some new topics and old ones that may likely still end up being moved by the mods.

If the mods can give a hint on discussions that they deem gambling worthy, it will help.

Also, If the gambling board is now being cleaned of spammers and low quality posts, I hope also that there will be an increase in merit distribution there to the quality topics made in that board, that are gambling discussion worthy.

[SmartGold01]

It is possible that some moderators are bored already as they see more topics to be about gambling discussion.

This is the part which I’m confused, before this kind of topic was allowed because there’s still a lot of old thread that is same with this discussion. I believe last week some mods put a lot of gambling thread on off-topic that’s why I’m curious if something is changed on the gambling discussion board rules.

Sincerely speaking I don't get it confused because most times when you go the gambling discussion board you would find same topic and same discussion repeating itself over and over, sometimes people do create such topic to complete their post quota which I think is very bad, at least there have been old post or topic that speaks about gambling addiction why not raise and activate those topic back so that we can continue the discussion over there than creating same topic and repeating discussions. To my notice Gambling addictions comes in every single day up-to 2 and above, so this might get them take that decision to move most of the topics to off-topic. Bet me or not, try create a newer topic that doesn't related to gambling addiction and you will have it stick there.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The problem with the gambling board I noticed is, there are many topics with similar discussion idea. There are no need for that. Consider premier league.

Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024
⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽
⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 New

Give me reason why we need three [I am sure there are more] threads we need? Everyone wants to have their own thread. Keep one and move many of these to off-topic too. It does not need a rule.

[KingsDen]

The problem with the gambling board I noticed is, there are many topics with similar discussion idea. There are no need for that. Consider premier league.

Upto 3 English premier League threads running concurrently.

Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024
⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽
⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 New

I think the first is the oldest and mega thread about 5000+ pages. I think the author renamed it this season. There shouldn't be a need to rename it. It should be left for Premier League discussion, past, present and the future.
The second one was created for this season and it has already spanned to 100+ pages, I don't think that moderators would like to move it.

Give me reason why we need three [I am sure there are more] threads we need? Everyone wants to have their own thread. Keep one and move many of these to off-topic too. It does not need a rule.

Jollygood has a premier League thread also. Although his is self moderated. Maybe moderators do not moderate a self moderated thread.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I think the first is the oldest and mega thread about 5000+ pages. I think the author renamed it this season.

The first thread gives you everything to discuss about Premier league. So what it's a mega thread? We don't have WO post twitter link, WO chartbuddy, WO homer, WO green dildo. We only have one WO.

[Eternad]

I have a suggestion regarding this issue, Instead of moving it to the off-topic board which is not the best place to discuss this topic no matter how low the quality because it's still on-topic to the board.

Again, I'm asking you to be honest!
The only real problem with the topic being off-topic is that CM don't pay for a post in off-topic!
Nobody is stopping people from commenting there, but they don't because they don't give a f-word about something they are not getting paid for.

With all due respect and honesty. My statement is about clarifying about the current general rules on gambling discussion board.

Be honest too, is this topic not related to gambling discussion board? How come is this an off-topic on gambling if it’s all about gambling. Even if the discussion is just a repetition of other topic, this is common even on Bitcoin discussion board and others especially price speculation.

If the mods preferred sports discussion and other specific then “gambling discussion” board descriptions should be specific. This is for reference on the future post as guidelines. I’m not even asking to move those off topic thread back on gambling discussion board.

at least there have been old post or topic that speaks about gambling addiction why not raise and activate those topic back so that we can continue the discussion over there than creating same topic and repeating discussions. To my notice Gambling addictions comes in every single day up-to 2 and above, so this might get them take that decision to move most of the topics to off-topic. Bet me or not, try create a newer topic that doesn't related to gambling addiction and you will have it stick there.

Those old topic is already locked or you might necro bump a topic that is too old. The best solution here is to provide a separate child board or one general thread for this kind of topic if mods doesn’t preferred discussion like this.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is the part which I’m confused, before this kind of topic was allowed because there’s still a lot of old thread that is same with this discussion. I believe last week some mods put a lot of gambling thread on off-topic that’s why I’m curious if something is changed on the gambling discussion board rules.

IMO threads about gambling addiction should either stay in the gambling section or get merged if they're essentially the same, not moved to Off-Topic.  General gambling topics and those about problem gambling go hand in hand, so it's kind of a no-brainer.

Plus I've seen so, sooooo many "Bitcoin or gold" threads in Bitcoin Discussion over the years, and those seemingly never get moved, merged, or trashcanned.  I've always thought any new thread with a title like that should be deleted by the mods on sight, and unfortunately I don't have the power to do it myself (lol).

[Eternad]

This is the part which I’m confused, before this kind of topic was allowed because there’s still a lot of old thread that is same with this discussion. I believe last week some mods put a lot of gambling thread on off-topic that’s why I’m curious if something is changed on the gambling discussion board rules.

IMO threads about gambling addiction should either stay in the gambling section or get merged if they're essentially the same, not moved to Off-Topic.  General gambling topics and those about problem gambling go hand in hand, so it's kind of a no-brainer.

Plus I've seen so, sooooo many "Bitcoin or gold" threads in Bitcoin Discussion over the years, and those seemingly never get moved, merged, or trashcanned.  I've always thought any new thread with a title like that should be deleted by the mods on sight, and unfortunately I don't have the power to do it myself (lol).

Thanks for a valuable opinion about this topic. I notice many repetitive thread not only on Bitcoin board but also on altcoins and other boards in the forum but none of them move to off-topic no matter how useless it is anymore.

I saw new topic on gambling discussion that might move to off-topic later since it’s almost the same to the recent topic that moved. Maybe some user is still not aware about this changes.

[Faisal2202]

I think the mods need to tell why they moved these topics to off-topic when they clearly belongs to Gambling discussion board.
If there is any change in the gambling discussion topic selection, then it must be communicated across the board to avoid confusions.

Thanks for bringing it in front of our eyes. I did not know many other old topics as well have been moved to off-topic as well. If that's the case then the moderators should really shed light on it, like why did they moved these topics there. As you aforementioned, if there is some change in the rules then that should be told otherwise people would be wasting their posts as they might end up in the off section as well.

Although I am not a regular poster in the gambling section, but still I understand how it feels when your post is wasted, even if you had made good efforts in it. TBH besides this, some of my posts are deleted by the forum as well. I put good efforts into them, (it's not frequent but a very rare case, as 1 out of 300 maybe). It was actually a sef-moderated topic and my post got deleted for some reason. Well, the point is a proper reason should be given as well.

[Mia Chloe]

Anything like a topic, game or something in general related to gambling is supposed to be a thread in the gambling board. If a post can't fit in any board based on its context and content, then it's suitable for the off topic board.
However I personally have noticed that it seems the moderators have taken their job more seriously probably they were initially ignoring such posts before but currently they aren't. The gambling board has a lot of repeated topics and discussions but I guess it's what's keeping it flowing. Moderators are probably creating this notion that posts In the gambling board should be more creative else they would simply be moved to the off topic section.

[mirakal]

My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

That's my guess too. The redundancy of such a topic for discussion would've made it boring to mods who possibly have realized that such topics cause spamming on the forum. To abate spamming, moving such topics to the "Off-Topic" section easily do the magic. That won't be far from mods decision for moving OP's thread. Users in signature campaigns have less allure posting there because posts in Off-Topic don't count towards the weekly quota in signature campaigns.

Well, you have a point. Although gambling addiction discussion is essential to warn present and future gamblers, but the reality that it’s become almost the majority’s topic, then probably the mods will no longer want to entertain any of those things related and moving it to off-topic would be the easiest move. So as much as possible, we posters should be careful in selecting threads to answer, that is not becoming redundant in the gambling discussion board, otherwise our efforts in posting will be put into waste.

[Poker Player]

Well, you have a point. Although gambling addiction discussion is essential to warn present and future gamblers, but the reality that it’s become almost the majority’s topic, then probably the mods will no longer want to entertain any of those things related and moving it to off-topic would be the easiest move. So as much as possible, we posters should be careful in selecting threads to answer, that is not becoming redundant in the gambling discussion board, otherwise our efforts in posting will be put into waste.

I, however, see a negative point to this. I have seen a few threads moved from the Gambling section to off topic. If this happens regularly I think that instead of leading to less spam it will create more. Why? Because if people have to have a minimum of 10 posts in that section to get paid, and if every week 3 or 4 threads in which they reply are moved to O/T, instead of writing the 12 they were writing before in that section they will write 20, to make sure they have met the criteria to get paid.

I'm not saying it's wrong what the moderators have done, and I actually reported a thread that has been moved to O/T, the only thing I would advise is beware of overdoing it.

[KingsDen]

I think the first is the oldest and mega thread about 5000+ pages. I think the author renamed it this season.

The first thread gives you everything to discuss about Premier league. So what it's a mega thread? We don't have WO post twitter link, WO chartbuddy, WO homer, WO green dildo. We only have one WO.

I support your idea of maintaining one mega thread, but if you can flash back you will remember where the deviation started. There was when suggestions were made in this meta that all the mega threads like English premier League, La liga, Bundesliga and Italian Serial A be locked and a new one created. The arguement was that they have lost their relevance. It was after that discussion that other threads began to spring up in the gambling discussion boards. It is just peculiar to English premier League as other league threads don't have duplicates yet.

[aioc]

My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

That's my guess too. The redundancy of such a topic for discussion would've made it boring to mods who possibly have realized that such topics cause spamming on the forum. To abate spamming, moving such topics to the "Off-Topic" section easily do the magic. That won't be far from mods decision for moving OP's thread. Users in signature campaigns have less allure posting there because posts in Off-Topic don't count towards the weekly quota in signature campaigns.

Well, you have a point. Although gambling addiction discussion is essential to warn present and future gamblers, but the reality that it’s become almost the majority’s topic, then probably the mods will no longer want to entertain any of those things related and moving it to off-topic would be the easiest move. So as much as possible, we posters should be careful in selecting threads to answer, that is not becoming redundant in the gambling discussion board, otherwise our efforts in posting will be put into waste.

There are new gambling discussions that were moved to off-topic if you have a quota to complete from the platform you are promoting you have to check if the thread is likely to be moved off-topic or if you're going to create a new discussion be sure it's not a subject that has been discussed so many times before.
It should be a fresh and new topic about gambling discussion so the discussion will not become redundant