Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers?

[retreat]

The question is not whether or not to make predictions with it, but whether you can access the supercomputer? Since not everyone can have access to a supercomputer, let alone just to make ordinary predictions, it doesn't seem possible for an ordinary person like me. Even if computers in the future can make predictions like those supercomputers do, I don't think I'll have enough money to afford that. So because of that I will continue to use my own analysis and make predictions accordingly.

[Kakmakr]

I think one aspect where AI are better than humans ...is with human emotions influencing our decisions. Let's say you are a huge Manchester City fan and they are playing a strong team, then human emotions might influence your betting decision.

AI takes source data.... process it and spits out the result, there are zero emotions involved. Now, we know those computers use source data that are created by humans, so some people might say... Garbage in... Garbage out.... right.  

Will I use AI to plan my bets... for sure, because it forms part of my research to quickly process the mass of information that are out there. (Example : Question : How many games have Manchester City played against team X and how many of them have they won in the last 2 years.)

[Mauser]

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I am not sure how reliable these predictions are at the moment, but over time the supercomputers will become better at predicting sports game. The question is then how this is going to impact the betting industry. Would anybody still bet money on a match where the supercomputer already knows the outcome before. Maybe the access to these supercomputers will be limited and the general public has no access to it. Or you might need a subscription to get full access in real time to any predictions. The problem is than that the bookmaker would be struggling to create enough diverse bets if all the people would just pick the winners. Either the odds would have to change drastically or the bookie is at risk to go broke. I think that once better predictions are publicly available all the gamblers would start following it, so it would make sense to hide them behind a paywall to not ruine the betting markets.

[Samlucky O]

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

Trusting on supercomputers prediction or not, all are thesame because human prediction is not %100 assured. also supercomputer (AI)  is not %100 guaranteed. whether you chose to trust AI or not, all are still thesame. but if supercomputer is used to predict gambling, people will prefer it to most human prediction. For several years now people have been looking for a better prediction to have more wining in gambling after countless loses. Any new developments will be considered, people will test run it for some years and compare it with human prediction. And come in conclusion between both, the best to chose amongst them. Though human will be much prefarable to AI because human can analyse game in different focal point maybe a new player signed to the Club may be a good reason for predicting a particular Match to win, while AI will judge a club by it previous games not knowing that a single player attached to a club can change the history of a club. Or the match Prediction.

[Synchronice]

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?


Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

AI (Artificial Intelligence), doesn't exist in the form of intelligence. There is nothing intelligent in AI, it's just a software that unites bunch of algorithms and takes decision by following the rules of given algorithms. It's not capable to think creatively, out of frames, it only follows certain pattern. So, to my mind, predictions by supercomputers are generated according to given data and I don't think it's anything we should make ourselves dependent on.
Could any supercomputer predict that Girona would be number 1, 2 or 3 in La League chart? No! Supercomputer would advice you against this! And we all know without a supercomputer that Real Madrid, Barcelona or Athletico Madrid is going to win it anyway.

[Apocollapse]

I am not sure how reliable these predictions are at the moment, but over time the supercomputers will become better at predicting sports game. The question is then how this is going to impact the betting industry. Would anybody still bet money on a match where the supercomputer already knows the outcome before. Maybe the access to these supercomputers will be limited and the general public has no access to it. Or you might need a subscription to get full access in real time to any predictions. The problem is than that the bookmaker would be struggling to create enough diverse bets if all the people would just pick the winners. Either the odds would have to change drastically or the bookie is at risk to go broke. I think that once better predictions are publicly available all the gamblers would start following it, so it would make sense to hide them behind a paywall to not ruine the betting markets.

The predictions are solely depends on statistic and the crowd, since many Premier League is overrated and Manchester City won Champions League in the last season, it's not surprising the AI predict the winner would be either Manchester City or Arsenal.

Don't worry about bookies, before the public know to get the statistic and predictions, the bookies already know that. If the bookies didn't know about the statistic and they wrongly evaluate the odds, they will going to bankrupt ASAP.

[Smartprofit]

Let's think together...
Suppose there is a supercomputer, a powerful artificial intelligence that very accurately predicts the results of matches.  What will happen if the forecasts of such a supercomputer are made public? 
A large number of players will place bets in accordance with this forecast, but as a result, no one will make a big profit.  Thus, such a supercomputer or powerful artificial intelligence can be used effectively only if it is under your complete control and you have the opportunity to solely use the results of its activities.  In this case, most likely the fact of the presence of such forecasts will be detected very quickly and casinos and bookmakers will take appropriate measures. 
But in any case, you and I will not be able to use such forecasts....

[leonair]

A supercomputer might give us a possible prediction, but we wouldn't have the fun of the door itself. Betting on gambling games by predicting them yourself is much more fun.  So those who gamble just for fun will never rely on supercomputer predictions and try to make predictions on their own and take the fun out of gambling. however, those who use gambling for income can use their perception as well as supercomputer predictions to increase their betting potential for winning. but nothing should be completely trusted when it comes to gambling.  And always gamble with a fixed budget

[redsun114]

This supercomputers are just capable of doing maths that are automated on it by the manufacturers and whatever that has to do with humans are always very confusing as we humans do not even trust ourselves to our next minutes, hence no matter how smart this computers become I don't believe they will have any accurate predictions.
What we can see from this supercomputers are that they depend on the opinions or the suggestions of humans to make their predictions, and as long as this gambling related stuffs aren't mathematical/scientific computers will find it very hard to make correct predictions because they will depend on our biased opinions and observations to make their predictions.

Because, how unpredictable human beings can be at times, I think even human predictions can go wrong at times and we also make predictions after we do research and analysis just like how an AI or a super computer would do it but they do it at a higher pace than us and it may analyse everything a bit more accurately than us since it doesn't have a brain but it operates based on algorithms and codes that have been written to perfection by humans so that it works very well.

There is no doubt that no one can predict the exact things that might happen in the future, and it's also true that AI models and supercomputers don't do anything themselves but they are fed with data that they process and then come up with results based on the provided data. So, their predictions can also be wrong.

[joniboini]

Will I use AI to plan my bets... for sure, because it forms part of my research to quickly process the mass of information that are out there. (Example : Question : How many games have Manchester City played against team X and how many of them have they won in the last 2 years.)

I will be surprised if people think data collected by instruments are unreliable unless the instrument is faulty. Most of the time they just blame how data is being misrepresented or abused to suit one or two narratives. Personally, I won't use AI or any tool to blindly ask how likely is Man City going to win the title without adding more detailed indicators. For example, whether the team is similar to the past or not, whether the competitors are the same, how their form in the last 10 matches or so, how's the point progression compared to the seasons before, etc. I mean, you can't say these stats are that meaningful when they swing wildly after a game is finished since you can't really quantify team motivation, interpersonal relationships, etc.

[danadc]

Will I use AI to plan my bets... for sure, because it forms part of my research to quickly process the mass of information that are out there. (Example : Question : How many games have Manchester City played against team X and how many of them have they won in the last 2 years.)

I will be surprised if people think data collected by instruments are unreliable unless the instrument is faulty. Most of the time they just blame how data is being misrepresented or abused to suit one or two narratives. Personally, I won't use AI or any tool to blindly ask how likely is Man City going to win the title without adding more detailed indicators. For example, whether the team is similar to the past or not, whether the competitors are the same, how their form in the last 10 matches or so, how's the point progression compared to the seasons before, etc. I mean, you can't say these stats are that meaningful when they swing wildly after a game is finished since you can't really quantify team motivation, interpersonal relationships, etc.

I would not trust these things, because I know that AI has amazed many people in the world, so much so that they use it for almost everything, doing research, jobs, among other things, but they do not understand that AI is a way of searching with filters on the internet, that is something that does not give me confidence, because I still do not see the "intelligence" I only see that they are very tabulated answers and that they look like a theft, it is like searching with Google with many gfilters, but that is something that We cannot see well, because the investigation method is different, so the employees are surprised.

In betting I will always trust my own criteria and my own backups, and my research, perhaps if super computers and quantum computers come out, it will take a long time for them to change generations.

[Churchillvv]

This supercomputers are just capable of doing maths that are automated on it by the manufacturers and whatever that has to do with humans are always very confusing as we humans do not even trust ourselves to our next minutes, hence no matter how smart this computers become I don't believe they will have any accurate predictions.
What we can see from this supercomputers are that they depend on the opinions or the suggestions of humans to make their predictions, and as long as this gambling related stuffs aren't mathematical/scientific computers will find it very hard to make correct predictions because they will depend on our biased opinions and observations to make their predictions.

There is no doubt that no one can predict the exact things that might happen in the future, and it's also true that AI models and supercomputers don't do anything themselves but they are fed with data that they process and then come up with results based on the provided data. So, their predictions can also be wrong.

That's exactly my point. We provided the data's that supercomputers use to theorise their results, and with this, humans are so much biased when giving out informations (data) based on our favourites, feelings and emotions can influence our perspective and informations that we can give out hence for this supercomputers to do well on  and give an accurate predictions it will require us humans to be objective and not subjective with the informations (data's) which is never possible.

With this major point I seem to believe that AIs, Supercomputers etc can not give an accurate predictions but can a close to correct because at some point the informations will surely be slightly correct hence it's a chance for us to use them. But in the cost of using an automated machine for predictions we should influence this predictions with our biases a little bit in order to be line always.

[mirakal]

By supercomputers I think we all agree that it is AI.
Well for any predictions, it depends on probability and mathematical and statistical equations based on past records and present form. It is no different from what a professor or STEM student who is interested in gambling would do. There's already some AI components embedded in some Sports books websites and many people depend or count their analysis as reliable.

But not all AI are reliable.. it's reliability and accuracy is dependent on its features and how much you pay for it.

In general, I don’t see AI highly reliable in gambling. Although there are instances that supercomputers are helping gamblers to derived at its best prediction, but that doesn’t happen all the time. Maybe it also depend on what type of game you are playing, but based on my own perception, once you risk your hard-earned money, it’s still best to bet following your own educated guess or prediction, and not just rely on supercomputers alone.

[taufik123]

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In betting I will always trust my own criteria and my own backups, and my research, perhaps if super computers and quantum computers come out, it will take a long time for them to change generations.

You do have to believe in what you do yourself, you don't always have to follow the predictions of super sophisticated tools that are still not necessarily correct.
Now everything is still oriented with AI, so every prediction can also be made by AI by looking at how historical data in the past, But gambling is not that easy to guess because every online casino has their own program, and it will always be updated.

Although using quantum computers is still no guarantee, but the current era still has no quantum computers that can be used commercially,
and the price is also very expensive.

It wouldn't be worth the gambling done, gambling was as entertainment in my opinion and I wouldn't think too long about how to get winnings.
Just use the allocation that has been limited and play according to our own instincts, winning or losing will only be an experience when gambling.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.
While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.
Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I think in the field of sports, especially football, these predictions should only be a reference factor, it is only based on past and present data to make predictions. However, football is a sport with too many surprises and depends on many other factors such as weather conditions, referees, stadiums, cheering audiences, especially performance during competition of the players. And those are factors that supercomputers cannot predict. Sometimes, a team can win against a stronger opponent just because they have a higher spirit.

Supercomputer predictions can provide us with useful information, for example, through its predictions, we can also know how the past and present force correlation of the two teams, throught it helps us have an overview first. However, we then need to consider unpredictable factors as well as having a personal analysis to make the final decision. That is the most reliable decision.

[Pumared]

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.
While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.
Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I think in the field of sports, especially football, these predictions should only be a reference factor, it is only based on past and present data to make predictions. However, football is a sport with too many surprises and depends on many other factors such as weather conditions, referees, stadiums, cheering audiences, especially performance during competition of the players. And those are factors that supercomputers cannot predict. Sometimes, a team can win against a stronger opponent just because they have a higher spirit.

Supercomputer predictions can provide us with useful information, for example, through its predictions, we can also know how the past and present force correlation of the two teams, throught it helps us have an overview first. However, we then need to consider unpredictable factors as well as having a personal analysis to make the final decision. That is the most reliable decision.

Yes, it makes total sense. As I said here previously, there are many variables and the most I see they can do is take some of these variables and create a model and over time refine it and who knows, maybe they will get something of value that really generates some prediction. But in the meantime, I agree that it should be used as a reference only.

[danherbias07]

It is reliable because they are using statistics that they can find on the internet but let's not be too leaning with an AI when it comes to sports. It can be unpredictable and if you are a fan of the sport then you have an idea about what I am saying. I am not a big fan of the sport but I do check the news especially if it becomes a trend. Remember that biggest upset in the world of football which is done by Saudi Arabia against Argentina with Messi? How much were the odds back then? I cannot remember but I do know Argentina was the heavy favorite and many football fans/gamblers lost their money in this game.
I bet even the AIs predicted that Argentina was going to win that game with a 90% chance and yet the impossible happened. Players can be off night, teams can be out of sync, and the opponent could be feeling better than the home players. It's a sport, and all of them are professionals so we cannot just underestimate them even if the AI thinks the favorite will mostly win. You will never know what could happen.

[serjent05]

Firstly, I will have to ask is it humans that are going to play this matches? If yes then you're likely to understand what I'm taking about.

This supercomputers are just capable of doing maths that are automated on it by the manufacturers and whatever that has to do with humans are always very confusing as we humans do not even trust ourselves to our next minutes, hence no matter how smart this computers become I don't believe they will have any accurate predictions.

I highly agree that is why it is called prediction and not prophecy  . but take note supercomputers are very capable of recording history, performance and result of game. It is also capable of comparing data analysis between team although I would not entirely depends on supercomputer but I would make use of its resources and data for references.  There are something that computers are able to analyse which somehow escape the minds of human.

What we can see from this supercomputers are that they depend on the opinions or the suggestions of humans to make their predictions,

Depends on what kind of software or application these supercomputers are installed or program with.  If the supercomputers is programmed to take the survey of people's prediction then what you are saying is correct but if the supercomputers application is dependent on data, result and performance of players, then it is way different from what you are saying.

and as long as this gambling related stuffs aren't mathematical/scientific computers will find it very hard to make correct predictions because they will depend on our biased opinions and observations to make their predictions.

there are software that is programmed with logic where different data of analysis is input on the computer it is also the reason why there is an "if", "else" and "or" statement on the command line of the program to deal with certain logic involved.  Super computers are also capable of identifying certain patterns and thus can produce a good predictions between team matches.  But as the word stated, prediction is not 100% to come true since there are limitations and variables that is to be considered that can affect the result of the matches.

As I stated, I would rather make use of supercomputers as a reference for my predictions and not entirely depend on it.

[pinggoki]

That depends too, is the supercomputer's predictions at the 99% accuracy? Anything lower than that is definitely not a good reason to depend on them when it comes to predicting the potential outcomes despite being able to do ungodly amounts of calculations, human factor will always be unpredictable. Maybe if that supercomputer shows an impressive result that predicts perfectly even if the accuracy is lower then I'd still take it but knowing how supercomputer is, it's unlikely that you'd be seeing a lot of them in any households yet, they're the size of buildings and most of them are used for far more important things than just predicting what could be the next team that would win or what number's going to hit the lottery. Regards to those that are doubtful of the power of supercomputers, you don't know the depth of what they can do because they're the most impressive human object in my opinion.

[entertheabyss]

I think we should accumulate statistics of successful match predictions by supercomputers. Statistics are the best and most visible form of certainty. However, I do not believe that supercomputers will be able to predict match results with 100% accuracy. The fact is that the outcome of many matches depends on chance. For example, if two teams of equal strength are playing, then the victory of one of them can often be the result of such a chance that no supercomputer can predict. Again, let's not forget that there are fixed matches that may not end as the supercomputer predicted.

The system is tougher but accompanied with backup strategy, a gambler will easily knot the relevant winnings and also have risks management when he's observing crucial changes. We have fixed matches in the system and we ought to understand how the system operates, there's more to handle than just mere witnessing these games. Statistics are mainly for clubs that have the consistent records and we're not holding back from claiming our points.