Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers?

[Pumared]

It is reliable because they are using statistics that they can find on the internet but let's not be too leaning with an AI when it comes to sports. It can be unpredictable and if you are a fan of the sport then you have an idea about what I am saying. I am not a big fan of the sport but I do check the news especially if it becomes a trend. Remember that biggest upset in the world of football which is done by Saudi Arabia against Argentina with Messi? How much were the odds back then? I cannot remember but I do know Argentina was the heavy favorite and many football fans/gamblers lost their money in this game.
I bet even the AIs predicted that Argentina was going to win that game with a 90% chance and yet the impossible happened. Players can be off night, teams can be out of sync, and the opponent could be feeling better than the home players. It's a sport, and all of them are professionals so we cannot just underestimate them even if the AI thinks the favorite will mostly win. You will never know what could happen.

Yes, and I remember that there were predictions that Brazil would win or be runner-up in the last World Cup. Well, it wasn't even close to a good performance. So I agree that we should be careful with hourly predictions and in sports that have many variables

[Natsuu]

It is reliable because they are using statistics that they can find on the internet but let's not be too leaning with an AI when it comes to sports. It can be unpredictable and if you are a fan of the sport then you have an idea about what I am saying. I am not a big fan of the sport but I do check the news especially if it becomes a trend. Remember that biggest upset in the world of football which is done by Saudi Arabia against Argentina with Messi? How much were the odds back then? I cannot remember but I do know Argentina was the heavy favorite and many football fans/gamblers lost their money in this game.

Yes, and I remember that there were predictions that Brazil would win or be runner-up in the last World Cup. Well, it wasn't even close to a good performance. So I agree that we should be careful with hourly predictions and in sports that have many variables

Personally, AI analysis would be beneficial because it is driven by fast phase computed data and can easily summarize the findings but I won't make my whole decision solely from that. I would rather take the information that resonates with me, research on my own, then have my own conviction which one  should I side on. Because in gambling, the only control that I have is the decision I am going to create before placing it. So I won't give it away to computers, I would rather do it manually and take the risk for the reward I am aiming for.

[Jawhead999]

No, AI only use past history to predict the future, while the future isn't only depends by history.

Leverkusen is one of the example, I doubt there's someone will predict Leverkusen will win Bundesliga from the beginning season, people will predict it's either Bayern Munich with 90% chance or Dortmund with 10% chance.

So this make AI is useless in forecasting.

[ethereumhunter]

Personally, AI analysis would be beneficial because it is driven by fast phase computed data and can easily summarize the findings but I won't make my whole decision solely from that. I would rather take the information that resonates with me, research on my own, then have my own conviction which one  should I side on. Because in gambling, the only control that I have is the decision I am going to create before placing it. So I won't give it away to computers, I would rather do it manually and take the risk for the reward I am aiming for.

If AI can gathers all information that we needs, that will helps us to finds the information to find the right team. But we must also search for the information by ourselves so we can knows what we wants to analyze. That will gives us more information to learns many things from the information and improve our skills in analyzing the information that we gets. It will also helps us to learns from AI about how to find the sources that can be our source to find more information. With helping from the AI, that will helps us to improve our skills so we can analyze the match and knows the right team to place the bets. We don't have to confuse where we must start because the AI can gather the information although we needs to clarify the information to find what we wants.

[Solosanz]

If AI can gathers all information that we needs, that will helps us to finds the information to find the right team. But we must also search for the information by ourselves so we can knows what we wants to analyze. That will gives us more information to learns many things from the information and improve our skills in analyzing the information that we gets. It will also helps us to learns from AI about how to find the sources that can be our source to find more information. With helping from the AI, that will helps us to improve our skills so we can analyze the match and knows the right team to place the bets. We don't have to confuse where we must start because the AI can gather the information although we needs to clarify the information to find what we wants.

That's what AI supposed to be, it only give you a statistic and help you to choose instead of to be used as final decision.

Human needs to be the one who make the final decision by evaluating the statistic, this is why some people say AI help them for their work, not like majority of people who complain AI should be stopped or AI will take over the world.

But I doubt if bookies didn't aware with AI, they should be the one who use AI and it will make the odds become more accurate with the risk to reward ratios.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Human needs to be the one who make the final decision by evaluating the statistic, this is why some people say AI help them for their work, not like majority of people who complain AI should be stopped or AI will take over the world.

This is very true, one can help oneself with statistics, personally I have always said something, if we are generalizing with AIs they are tools for now, because for me this is just an automated response, for me AIs are not intelligence, They are just robots, and robots are not intelligence, they are a set of algorithms that aim to give quick answers extracted from the web, for me an AI is one that has all that ability to think and give the most appropriate response, use logic and be much more. detailed and specific, it is as if a human gave the answer, with that quality AIs do not give their point of view, AIs only give answers to what they ask for and sometimes the answers are very generalized, that is why it is very easy to determine when it is or is not an AI.

[Fiatless]

Yes, and I remember that there were predictions that Brazil would win or be runner-up in the last World Cup. Well, it wasn't even close to a good performance. So I agree that we should be careful with hourly predictions and in sports that have many variables

Gambling wins are not only determined by analysis because luck also plays a vital role. In that last World Cup it would have been hard to believe that Saudi Arabia will beat Argentina, Cameroon beat Brazil and Morocco will get to the semi-finals. I don't think many people would have predicted it just as AI would have failed to predict it because historical analysis or statistics would have been useless

No, AI only use past history to predict the future, while the future isn't only depends by history.

Leverkusen is one of the example, I doubt there's someone will predict Leverkusen will win Bundesliga from the beginning season, people will predict it's either Bayern Munich with 90% chance or Dortmund with 10% chance.

So this make AI is useless in forecasting.

From what I have gathered from this thread, Artificial intelligence could help to analyse games using statistics and history but it is now up to humans to make the final decision. These AI tools could be very helpful in giving us quick statistical feedback but as humans, we have to do the reasoning before using these AI-powered predictions. I don't think machines can ever replace the mental capacity of humans.

[LDL]

A supercomputer can only make predictions by data analysis and formula analysis, so it cannot justify how well a team will perform. A supercomputer or artificial intelligence will make predictions only by analyzing the past data of a team, so maybe in some cases the prediction is correct but in most cases the prediction will be wrong. For example, in the match between Real Madrid and Real Sociadad, the supercomputer may give 30% probability in favor of Real Sociadad, but in a match, 100% probability may be in favor of Real Madrid. So no matter how well the supercomputer does the analysis, the supercomputer does not have the ability to do a complete analysis on a team.

[ethereumhunter]

That's what AI supposed to be, it only give you a statistic and help you to choose instead of to be used as final decision.

Human needs to be the one who make the final decision by evaluating the statistic, this is why some people say AI help them for their work, not like majority of people who complain AI should be stopped or AI will take over the world.

But I doubt if bookies didn't aware with AI, they should be the one who use AI and it will make the odds become more accurate with the risk to reward ratios.

But from the statistic that we gets from AI can helps us to determine which team that we can select. We can also analyze more deeper from the statistic if we wants to know more from the information. Yes, I agree that we must decides by ourselves and not just depends on the other sources to decides. The statistic that we gets from AI can gives us a way to learn the analyze so we can improve our skills better.

Bookies will not lets that happens and will do something. They don't wants to see their business ruins because of the AI. They will use AI to prevents that so they can still gets profits from the gamblers. This will becomes a fight between the gamblers and the casinos and the gamblers will trying hard to find the best AI that can helps them to win.

[wxa7115]

That's what AI supposed to be, it only give you a statistic and help you to choose instead of to be used as final decision.

Human needs to be the one who make the final decision by evaluating the statistic, this is why some people say AI help them for their work, not like majority of people who complain AI should be stopped or AI will take over the world.

But I doubt if bookies didn't aware with AI, they should be the one who use AI and it will make the odds become more accurate with the risk to reward ratios.

But from the statistic that we gets from AI can helps us to determine which team that we can select. We can also analyze more deeper from the statistic if we wants to know more from the information. Yes, I agree that we must decides by ourselves and not just depends on the other sources to decides. The statistic that we gets from AI can gives us a way to learn the analyze so we can improve our skills better.

Bookies will not lets that happens and will do something. They don't wants to see their business ruins because of the AI. They will use AI to prevents that so they can still gets profits from the gamblers. This will becomes a fight between the gamblers and the casinos and the gamblers will trying hard to find the best AI that can helps them to win.

I am sure casinos will find a way to counter AI, and the most straightforward way to do this is to make use of AI themselves, after all AI depends on three things, the algorithm itself, the hardware in which it runs, and the data that you give to your AI so it can generate a new predictive model.

And in those three aspects casinos are above the average player by a significant margin, so I do not think there is a lot of people which can make use of AI to beat them.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I think the question is incorrect. It's the bookies who have long used statistical software and nowadays AIs to calculate the odds they offer you. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to covertly sell the idea that using AIs is going to make you rich, when it's getting harder and harder to do so.

I am sure casinos will find a way to counter AI, and the most straightforward way to do this is to make use of AI themselves...

But what do you think, that they're not already doing that?

[Findingnemo]

The future outcomes doesn't really has to be dependent on the past incidents so saying the predictions by supercomputer is going to affect the betting industry is just BS. There is no alternative to find the future other than time machine so don't worry about the sport betting industry until we get there also don't waste your money by trusting the calculations of finding the results of a game.

[Litzki1990]

Artificial intelligence but made by humans, artificial intelligence will suggest you any team only considering the past statistics of the player but it is more acceptable to use your own intelligence than artificial intelligence in betting. Artificial intelligence will only suggest you from the information it has but when you try to use your brain to make predictions, the results will likely come in your favor. If a player suddenly gets injured, the artificial intelligence will give you a signal without you knowing about it, but this is definitely a minus point for you. We don't want to put pressure on our brain but if we put pressure on our brain then brain will suggest us something better.

[aioc]

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

There were times when they were accurate, but you can't rely 100% on these supercomputers, they can only provide data and insight and are not guaranteed results, so there's a probability that they can make a mistake, AI is a big help for analysis but in the end, it should be your final analysis that matters.
There are many AI's and I don't think all AI will give the same analysis and predictions, it depends on the data in their database.

[irhact]

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

If the super computer could give accurate predictions as you claim then that shoud be something the house should worry about cause they'll begin to lose more funds while bettors win more, but on a second thought i doubt if the said claim AI would be 100% accurate, 40-60% might be considered because as we all know gambling is based on luck and good strategy so the AI might have good predictions strategy but one might be unlucky.

 Take for instance in a game where an AI predicted Liverpool to win Manchester United, based on their recent stats Liverpool are far better than United no doubt and are even in a better position in their previous game Liverpool outplayed united but United managed to beat them at the extra minutes of the game, therefore you've definitely lost your bet while following the predictions of an AI.

[Pumared]

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

If the super computer could give accurate predictions as you claim then that shoud be something the house should worry about cause they'll begin to lose more funds while bettors win more, but on a second thought i doubt if the said claim AI would be 100% accurate, 40-60% might be considered because as we all know gambling is based on luck and good strategy so the AI might have good predictions strategy but one might be unlucky.

 Take for instance in a game where an AI predicted Liverpool to win Manchester United, based on their recent stats Liverpool are far better than United no doubt and are even in a better position in their previous game Liverpool outplayed united but United managed to beat them at the extra minutes of the game, therefore you've definitely lost your bet while following the predictions of an AI.

I agree and I've been saying this in this topic, it's very difficult to predict something with many variables. The best thing is to use some data with some variables and try to refine this model to the point of being able to predict something. But other than that it is very impossible to predict anything.

[boty]

The future outcomes doesn't really has to be dependent on the past incidents so saying the predictions by supercomputer is going to affect the betting industry is just BS. There is no alternative to find the future other than time machine so don't worry about the sport betting industry until we get there also don't waste your money by trusting the calculations of finding the results of a game.

Because no one can know for sure what will happen in the future, of course we don't have to be influenced by supercomputer predictions and we can place bets according to our wishes and we don't need to worry about predictions that other people make and I agree with you entrusting predictions. what other people do only makes us waste the bets we place, because when we experience defeat of course this is very detrimental to ourselves and we never do anything other than just entrust our bets to other people's predictions and it is very different if we experience losing on bets we place on predictions we make ourselves.

[kotajikikox]

Firstly, I will have to ask is it humans that are going to play this matches? If yes then you're likely to understand what I'm taking about.

Wow you burn it there mate , indeed the perfect question to ask the team that says gonna lose if they will allow this to happen?
Am sure with this Supercomputer prediction the team will do everything at its best to prevent them from losing.

This supercomputers are just capable of doing maths that are automated on it by the manufacturers and whatever that has to do with humans are always very confusing as we humans do not even trust ourselves to our next minutes, hence no matter how smart this computers become I don't believe they will have any accurate predictions.
What we can see from this supercomputers are that they depend on the opinions or the suggestions of humans to make their predictions, and as long as this gambling related stuffs aren't mathematical/scientific computers will find it very hard to make correct predictions because they will depend on our biased opinions and observations to make their predictions.

You can have a different perception of the supercomputers but this is mine.

another correct mate, this computers are good at math and analyzing but they are not here to foreseen future , in short they can be right but they can also be wrong.

[Nrcewker]

These supercomputers do nothing, but just predict based on past trends, player stats and playing conditions. This is similar to the AI models who predict the outcomes. If I have to invest or bet, then I will never risk my hard earned money on these machines. I would rather prefer to do calculations myself and place the bets. So yes, I won’t use supercomputers for the games in any circumstances.

[Pumared]

These supercomputers do nothing, but just predict based on past trends, player stats and playing conditions. This is similar to the AI models who predict the outcomes. If I have to invest or bet, then I will never risk my hard earned money on these machines. I would rather prefer to do calculations myself and place the bets. So yes, I won’t use supercomputers for the games in any circumstances.

Yes, but see that the returns they will give for your bets are very promising. And you are weighing in a small scenario, you cannot calculate thousands of data to place a bet. Anyone understands that there is practicality in this, whether it works or not is another matter.