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May 06, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
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If having fun has no challenges then i don't think we should also be having issues with he way we gamble, except if we are not doing the appropriate thing needed of us to do when gambling, same as well is being applicable for us to know our rights in gambling because if we don't, anyone can take advantage on them against us, we must by now have a full idea about what we are doing when it comes to gambling.
If that have fun is about playing gambling, that will not a good idea because they can lose a lot of money insides the games. They will not have the opportunity to gets wins easily but only lose the money. They must thinks about the lose that can becomes big.
Otherwise, they will really lose that money and can regrets it when they ends their gambling sessions. But many people can realizes what they have done.
But in this case, both online and offline casino will have the challenge to proves to people that they are reliable to serves their members. On that case, the agent makes a wrong thing and refused to pay the winner.

When we enter a casino, things are always very given Because we expect to lose our money very quickly and in a very simple way, so this is something that we should avoid, I am one of those who, when picking mushrooms in a casino, I concentrate a lot, I try to I don't drink alcoholic beverages and I try to make money, but when things seem to turn around I leave it there, I don't want to Stop losing money , especially when you are in a Country where you always need to have money in your Pockets because you don't know what can happen , what an emergency they can get out, this is something that should be noted in every point of this, I will always think that in the casinos we have to take advantage of the luck we win and think about stopping and not continuing so as not to lose everything.
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May 07, 2024, 03:56:46 AM
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Agree with you mates the every casino matters on the behavior of the operator not the casino itself cause when the operator or the owner is not good then the casino will become not good.
the casino is representation of the owner so if the casino is bad meaning the owner is
bad you cannot differentiate them because they are one that's it.

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But the operator/owner is good enough and have a good handling on business then the casino will run forever. But ok reality it will depends on us gamblers cause we have the decision if we gonna play on that casino or not so it's better to do our own research and use some of our time to discover the ability and all about the casino.
the casino will stay strong once the operator/owner knows how to value their players
and the players will pay them respect and praises but once they are BS casino then expect
the respond of the people towards them.

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May 07, 2024, 05:33:09 AM
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When we enter a casino, things are always very given Because we expect to lose our money very quickly and in a very simple way, so this is something that we should avoid, I am one of those who, when picking mushrooms in a casino, I concentrate a lot, I try to I don't drink alcoholic beverages and I try to make money, but when things seem to turn around I leave it there, I don't want to Stop losing money , especially when you are in a Country where you always need to have money in your Pockets because you don't know what can happen , what an emergency they can get out, this is something that should be noted in every point of this, I will always think that in the casinos we have to take advantage of the luck we win and think about stopping and not continuing so as not to lose everything.
We never expects to lose our money quickly but as soon as we playing gambling without limits, we will see that happens fast without we realizes. We must avoids that happens and not uses too much money to playing gambling, especially if we use gambling for fun and just use our free time to gambling.
No matter if we focus in our games, we will see that's difficult to win the games as gambling is not place to make money. We must stops playing gambling if we already lose streak because that will not be a good ide to face another losses.
Both casino, offline and online will takes the benefits of the lose gamblers but if gamblers realizes that they don't have to lose much money, they will stops gambling immediately. That's why we must limits our gambling activity.

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May 07, 2024, 07:36:44 AM
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The popularity of online gambling platform have been on the increase for a while now thereby creating several arguments between them and the  physical outlets in terms of which is the best. There was an incidence I saw on twitter this money that made me decide to create this post so anyone who is bent on using physical shops should be cautious.

According to the tweet and the victim narration, he bet the game in a physical shop and won N16,700,000 (~$13,500) but the agent of the shop refused to pay him even after the betting company from their head office instructed him to pay. Not that the company did not pay the agent, they paid but the agent refused to pay him saying that someone else have come to withdraw the money. He approached the court only to get N3,000,000( $2,400) out of the total winning and was asked to go and look for the people that withdrew that money. Normally, when there is winning, the only way to withdraw is to tender the ticket to the agents who will take the ticket before paying the winning. So I do not know how someone will withdraw the winning of another and what the person used to make the withdrawal. I think the agent wanted to steal the entire money but due to the pressure from the court, he has to return part of it. I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

Well, according to the story, the agent at the shop obviously has greed in his person, as if he wants to rob face-to-face the gambler who won the game. It's difficult because sometimes we don't know what can happen because we don't know what's in the agent's mind.

But anyway, in that case, it's better to just play in an online casino here in crypto gambling because you don't have anyone to talk to physically. As long as the casino platform we play on is reputable, not an unreputed casino, because it's sure to be a scam if it happens.



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May 08, 2024, 05:33:42 PM
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But anyway, in that case, it's better to just play in an online casino here in crypto gambling because you don't have anyone to talk to physically. As long as the casino platform we play on is reputable, not an unreputed casino, because it's sure to be a scam if it happens.

In this very particular case I agree with what you say, in a fairly good casino with great acceptance, good reputation and with a lot of trust it is possible to do things like that, Otherwise I think there can be no question of considering things better, because when you are looking for good casinos we would not have any type of problem, that is a great advantage, what I can Say and that same Advice, physical casinos have their advantages, apart from the things that can be distractions that do help to have a different time and That you can share moments with other people, which is sometimes Necessary , the social part can increase in the person.

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But anyway, in that case, it's better to just play in an online casino here in crypto gambling because you don't have anyone to talk to physically. As long as the casino platform we play on is reputable, not an unreputed casino, because it's sure to be a scam if it happens.

In this very particular case I agree with what you say, in a fairly good casino with great acceptance, good reputation and with a lot of trust it is possible to do things like that, Otherwise I think there can be no question of considering things better, because when you are looking for good casinos we would not have any type of problem, that is a great advantage, what I can Say and that same Advice, physical casinos have their advantages, apart from the things that can be distractions that do help to have a different time and That you can share moments with other people, which is sometimes Necessary , the social part can increase in the person.
Online or physical casinos then it would really be always falls down into someones preference on where they should be playing. As for social aspect then we do know that going into those physical places would really be giving out that kind of experience on which we know that this is something the advantage or you could really be able to have that kind of dealing unlike when you do play online. The good thing on here is that
with having these kind of options then you would really be having that choices whether you should really be going offline or online according into your own interest.

The challenges i do see for offline casinos or physical ones that cost and marketing on getting gamblers but of course making these kind of establishments arent that something cheap.
Therefore, we can really say that they are prepared when it comes to any marketing and some promotions on which it would really be something that would really be boosting up
in terms of recognition and exposure.

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May 09, 2024, 04:50:41 PM
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Agree with you mates the every casino matters on the behavior of the operator not the casino itself cause when the operator or the owner is not good then the casino will become not good.
the casino is representation of the owner so if the casino is bad meaning the owner is
bad you cannot differentiate them because they are one that's it.
I think he can differentiate them unless you do not know the gist itself, and how casinos and other businesses operate. First, let's establish the point that many of these companies, casinos and businesses you see around you, and even online that have many branches and channels might not be the ones operating all activities directly, it could be partnerships/franchisement arrangements which may cause some issues at times. Also, even if they are from the same owners, the direct management may vary per branch, which is why we can't always blame the parent company or the headquarters.

Just because the main owner is not the one managing it, an ugly occurrence could happen down the lane. But it gets worse when it is a partnership/franchisement arrangement that is not well monitored where the headquarters will allow some operators/agent to use their names for some partnership gains. Even as the headquarters thrives to deal with their customers to satisfaction, the partner may do otherwise thereby soiling the name of the company. This is happening so much in casinos, but the wise one will always know who is to be blamed.

At times too, the headquarters could be at fault, but most times, it could be the operators/agencts even as the headquarters has done its part excellently well. So, who is to blame in this regard?

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Who knows, maybe, the sons of the gambler have actually taken the bet ticket from their dad without his notice and have gone to cash out the money or the casino attendant is the person who have plotted everything so he could deprive the man of his luckily won money. In this kind of situation, a proper investigation is supposed to be carried out by the appropriate crime team in that country. If an investigation is made, there is no way they will not find out if the casino attendant is lying or if the gambler is the one lying, because any of them could be lying. I was thinking, what, if the gambler has duplicated that ticket and asked someone else to come before him to do the cash out?

So, let them do a proper investigation on that, and perhaps the betting shop is supposed to have a CCTV to capture such activities.

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May 10, 2024, 12:00:56 AM
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Who knows, maybe, the sons of the gambler have actually taken the bet ticket from their dad without there dad's notice and have gone to cash out the money or the casino attendant is the person who have plotted every so he could deprive the man of his luckily won money. In this kind of situation, a proper investment is supposed to be carried out by the appropriate crime team in that country. If an investment is made, there is no way they will not find out if the casino attendant is lying or if the gambler is the one they are lying to. Because any of them could be lying. I was thinking, Who if the gambler has duplicated that ticket and asked someone else to come before him to do the cash out?

So, let them do a proper investigation on that, and perhaps the betting shop they were talking about is supposed to have CCTV to capture such activities.

Maybe you are thinking about proper investigation here, not proper investment as you mentioned earlier in your post.  Each situation is different as we don't know the whole story in play. Most of the time, the stories published are lacking with specific details, hence, we can't conclude what really happened.

In the case of what the OP posted, the agent paid some of the winnings because of the pressure of the court. If there is no CCTV in his place, hard to justify that someone really did claim the winnings, especially if he has no receipt or other supporting documents. The presence of CCTV in every business is a must now, it will assist a lot in the investigation, if there's any trouble or happenings surrounding the business.

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May 10, 2024, 12:08:12 AM
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Who knows, maybe, the sons of the gambler have actually taken the bet ticket from their dad without there dad's notice and have gone to cash out the money or the casino attendant is the person who have plotted every so he could deprive the man of his luckily won money. In this kind of situation, a proper investment is supposed to be carried out by the appropriate crime team in that country. If an investment is made, there is no way they will not find out if the casino attendant is lying or if the gambler is the one they are lying to. Because any of them could be lying. I was thinking, Who if the gambler has duplicated that ticket and asked someone else to come before him to do the cash out?

So, let them do a proper investigation on that, and perhaps the betting shop they were talking about is supposed to have CCTV to capture such activities.

Maybe you are thinking about proper investigation here, not proper investment as you mentioned earlier in your post.  Each situation is different as we don't know the whole story in play. Most of the time, the stories published are lacking with specific details, hence, we can't conclude what really happened.

Yea, my bad, already corrected it  Wink.

Yea, this particular story, in my opinion, it did not go as it's supposed to. This is a huge amount of money we are talking about here, by right they are supposed to get to the root of the matter so they the culprit can be captured and forced to provide all that money.

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Who knows, maybe, the sons of the gambler have actually taken the bet ticket from their dad without there dad's notice and have gone to cash out the money or the casino attendant is the person who have plotted every so he could deprive the man of his luckily won money. In this kind of situation, a proper investment is supposed to be carried out by the appropriate crime team in that country. If an investment is made, there is no way they will not find out if the casino attendant is lying or if the gambler is the one they are lying to. Because any of them could be lying. I was thinking, Who if the gambler has duplicated that ticket and asked someone else to come before him to do the cash out?

So, let them do a proper investigation on that, and perhaps the betting shop they were talking about is supposed to have CCTV to capture such activities.

Maybe you are thinking about proper investigation here, not proper investment as you mentioned earlier in your post.  Each situation is different as we don't know the whole story in play. Most of the time, the stories published are lacking with specific details, hence, we can't conclude what really happened.

Yea, my bad, already corrected it  Wink.

Yea, this particular story, in my opinion, it did not go as it's supposed to. This is a huge amount of money we are talking about here, by right they are supposed to get to the root of the matter so they the culprit can be captured and forced to provide all that money.

That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.



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May 10, 2024, 03:48:22 AM
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That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.
This should be one lesson that gamblers need to make sure to learn, the most important aspect when evaluating any casino will always be its reputation and the customer service they provide.

And when taking into account those factors neither online or offline casinos are better than their counterparts, because just as there are scam offline casinos, there are also a lot of scam online casinos, and we have several examples of this on the forum.
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Agree with you mates the every casino matters on the behavior of the operator not the casino itself cause when the operator or the owner is not good then the casino will become not good.
the casino is representation of the owner so if the casino is bad meaning the owner is
bad you cannot differentiate them because they are one that's it.

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But the operator/owner is good enough and have a good handling on business then the casino will run forever. But ok reality it will depends on us gamblers cause we have the decision if we gonna play on that casino or not so it's better to do our own research and use some of our time to discover the ability and all about the casino.
the casino will stay strong once the operator/owner knows how to value their players
and the players will pay them respect and praises but once they are BS casino then expect
the respond of the people towards them.

Is this for real? I don't believe your statement.

If you own a casino you need to hire people right? How will you know that they are into reaping people off? Not until you get some information I believe and that is if the information gets to you.

The last time I checked, casino owners don't come visit during the day when games are going on and people or customers are available, most of them even hire managers to look after the whole operation.

How will you know?

I am talking from experience, it is harder to know about the reputation of an offline casino, until they do something bad and you are lucky to get informed, maybe by your friends or neighbors, in my country people who are into gambling will prefer to go to the nearby betting station, that is it.

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May 10, 2024, 01:27:59 PM
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Who knows, maybe, the sons of the gambler have actually taken the bet ticket from their dad without there dad's notice and have gone to cash out the money or the casino attendant is the person who have plotted every so he could deprive the man of his luckily won money. In this kind of situation, a proper investment is supposed to be carried out by the appropriate crime team in that country. If an investment is made, there is no way they will not find out if the casino attendant is lying or if the gambler is the one they are lying to. Because any of them could be lying. I was thinking, Who if the gambler has duplicated that ticket and asked someone else to come before him to do the cash out?

So, let them do a proper investigation on that, and perhaps the betting shop they were talking about is supposed to have CCTV to capture such activities.

Maybe you are thinking about proper investigation here, not proper investment as you mentioned earlier in your post.  Each situation is different as we don't know the whole story in play. Most of the time, the stories published are lacking with specific details, hence, we can't conclude what really happened.

Yea, my bad, already corrected it  Wink.

Yea, this particular story, in my opinion, it did not go as it's supposed to. This is a huge amount of money we are talking about here, by right they are supposed to get to the root of the matter so they the culprit can be captured and forced to provide all that money.

That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.

Any casino can be fraudulent, whether online casino or physical casino, it is left for us gamblers to do our findings first before using any casino. I bet you, that particular casino or betting shop in OP's story has already earned for itself a negative review. Lots of gamblers who are very conscious of where they put their money will beware of that casino. There are so many reputable physical casinos out there and one way to find out is through customers' reviews. I do not think the operators of that  casino care about their reputation because if they do, they wouldn't have allowed such a situation to go out of hand without giving the gambler who won what is rightfully his. It is their loss anyway, a proper legal action will help the said gambler claim his benefits.

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Online or physical casinos then it would really be always falls down into someones preference on where they should be playing. As for social aspect then we do know that going into those physical places would really be giving out that kind of experience on which we know that this is something the advantage or you could really be able to have that kind of dealing unlike when you do play online. The good thing on here is that
with having these kind of options then you would really be having that choices whether you should really be going offline or online according into your own interest.

You are right, I personally have always said something, when it comes to doing things like establishing the best of ourselves to approve our skills or our luck, I think that physical or online casinos do their part, for me in that aspect they are very Similarly, you say something very true, it is the tastes of the person, perhaps strengthening the social part, not everyone goes to the casino to spend their money, and this is something that must be considered, but the greatest advantage of physical casinos is the No Kyc, and now with so many demands on the online casino regarding that, I think they are already on par, the advantage of online casinos is that you can play from home and without problems of stopping and continuing playing whenever you want depending on the game, but now Failure to comply with KYC carries a lot of weight.


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May 10, 2024, 06:50:23 PM
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That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.

My dear, it's safe to gamble in both online and offline casinos. As a matter of fact, what happened in this case cannot happen and has not happened in any part of my country. The betting shops in my country are usually filled with customers most of the time in the morning and in the evening. If really traditional gambling is as unsafe as you said because of this singular act, then people would not be visiting it. If this kind of issue comes up in any betting shop in my country, they will make sure to get to the root of the matter until the truth is found. 

If perhaps it is established that the fault is with the casino attendant, he must provide all the money that was won. 

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May 10, 2024, 07:45:07 PM
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That can happen to anyone.

It's not actually a challenge but it is something that happens for you to anticipate if you have experienced that before. Betting shops/agents or local casinos, anything can happen based on their rules.

They can give oddly reasons for one to deny the winnings of a bettor or at least delay it for them to test that gambler and see how long his patience is.

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May 10, 2024, 09:18:52 PM
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That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.
This should be one lesson that gamblers need to make sure to learn, the most important aspect when evaluating any casino will always be its reputation and the customer service they provide.

And when taking into account those factors neither online or offline casinos are better than their counterparts, because just as there are scam offline casinos, there are also a lot of scam online casinos, and we have several examples of this on the forum.
If people would really be just that making use of their own common sense then they wont really be able to find out that too hard or making themselves going into the right place. It is really just that
people are really that too lazy when it come on doing this basic stuff. They would really be just that making themselves doing making some verification on the time that they do face up some issues.

Basing up on the condition of those things mentioned on OP then having those agents could potentially ran off the money with those people who had actually won.
This is why it would really be on their own discretion on how they would really be hiring up  those staff or people that would really be trustable specially that they are really that dealing
or making some engagement of possible big money that would be held. Temptation is really there always.

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May 11, 2024, 04:29:13 AM
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That's why, until now, what I'm thinking is the agent's intention to take the other amount from what the gambler himself won. Imagine it even leading to legal matters because of such a thing done by the agent. But anyway, I hope this will be a lesson for other gamblers in the crypto space.

And then, since the online casino is now trending, I hope we can stay focused on playing gambling online because it is really safer and there is really no hustle. I am just stating the facts.

My dear, it's safe to gamble in both online and offline casinos. As a matter of fact, what happened in this case cannot happen and has not happened in any part of my country. The betting shops in my country are usually filled with customers most of the time in the morning and in the evening. If really traditional gambling is as unsafe as you said because of this singular act, then people would not be visiting it. If this kind of issue comes up in any betting shop in my country, they will make sure to get to the root of the matter until the truth is found. 

If perhaps it is established that the fault is with the casino attendant, he must provide all the money that was won. 

I agree with the last sentence you said. Maybe at that time the attendant was also going through a problem, and he saw that the solution to his problem was a gambler winning a large sum of money. And what the player won was probably the answer to what he was going through.

And that's the only wrong way he thought of as a solution to his problem, which made his problem even worse in the end because the attendant also made an excuse to add to his problem.



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May 11, 2024, 06:31:00 AM
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That can happen to anyone.

It's not actually a challenge but it is something that happens for you to anticipate if you have experienced that before. Betting shops/agents or local casinos, anything can happen based on their rules.

They can give oddly reasons for one to deny the winnings of a bettor or at least delay it for them to test that gambler and see how long his patience is.
We are just gamble and the authority will always have the last word/action and in which stands for the gambling site/operator or whom we are addressing .
we are thankful to never experience any troubles from our gambling activities though I manage to taste delayed payment because of some errors but never that I was alarmed because that site is reputable and have proven their name in this field for long time now.

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