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June 08, 2024, 09:19:45 AM
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The only thing that puzzles me is the amount of work that icopress will face when counting votes.

I have a solution for counting votes. The problem is that users insist on not following the recommended format to vote!!!

VOTE IN THE FORMAT THAT @icopress GAVE!!!

If everyone votes, according to the guidelines, the votes will be counted in just a few minutes!

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June 08, 2024, 09:46:24 AM
Merited by BlackHatCoiner (4)
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He never mentioned IRV, (...)
He did, though. If you go over the OP (in the voting topic) carefully, you'll see this:



(...) and literally just said that the order isn't important.
That really confuses me... IRV belongs to the ordinal class of voting methods, so, the order does matter.

What's going on, I think, is that icopress has something in mind for how the winner will be determined, but he hasn't shared exactly what it is, and he probably shouldn't be calling it "Instant Runoff Voting". Undecided
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June 08, 2024, 10:33:22 AM
 #363

The only thing that puzzles me is the amount of work that icopress will face when counting votes.

I have a solution for counting votes. The problem is that users insist on not following the recommended format to vote!!!

VOTE IN THE FORMAT THAT @icopress GAVE!!!

If everyone votes, according to the guidelines, the votes will be counted in just a few minutes!

If you have a solution to do a IRV with 110 candidates in minutes, you might be into something.
I strongly advise you to sell this, as I saw some nog so cheap solutions for this.

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June 08, 2024, 11:51:20 AM
 #364

The only thing that puzzles me is the amount of work that icopress will face when counting votes.

I have a solution for counting votes. The problem is that users insist on not following the recommended format to vote!!!

VOTE IN THE FORMAT THAT @icopress GAVE!!!

If everyone votes, according to the guidelines, the votes will be counted in just a few minutes!

If you have a solution to do a IRV with 110 candidates in minutes, you might be into something.
I strongly advise you to sell this, as I saw some nog so cheap solutions for this.

If all users just used the voting template, I could do this. Then I just had to ask TryNinja to scrape the topic again to update all the posts that had been updated.


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June 08, 2024, 12:18:44 PM
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The only thing that puzzles me is the amount of work that icopress will face when counting votes.

I have a solution for counting votes. The problem is that users insist on not following the recommended format to vote!!!

VOTE IN THE FORMAT THAT @icopress GAVE!!!

If everyone votes, according to the guidelines, the votes will be counted in just a few minutes!

If you have a solution to do a IRV with 110 candidates in minutes, you might be into something.
I strongly advise you to sell this, as I saw some nog so cheap solutions for this.

If all users just used the voting template, I could do this. Then I just had to ask TryNinja to scrape the topic again to update all the posts that had been updated.



Sorry for the double post, but it was to show a count I put together just now:



It still needs some adjustments, but this is the current situation. Or rather, it was the panorama when the posts were made, before being edited.
If TryNinja manages to scrape the vote thread again, the data would be updated.

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June 08, 2024, 11:58:56 PM
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Wow! Today @LoyceV awarded merit prizes to the participants in the pizza contest. He distributed 678 merits among the contestants in just three minutes and 30 seconds. Many have merited multiple times here by luck. 112 out of 125 people were nominated for voting in the main competition, have all been judged in such a short period of time or just continuous merit giving where many are left out!

Also @ABCbits awarded 387 qualifying prizes to pizza contest entrants today. You have also given merit to 131 people in a single way, although you have tried to give merit awards to all  people, many have received merit more than once. You may have accidentally left something out.

ABCbits & LoyceV both awarded around 1065 merits today! Those who participated in the competition may be very happy to get such merit.
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June 09, 2024, 06:26:19 AM
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Wow! Today @LoyceV awarded merit prizes to the participants in the pizza contest. He distributed 678 merits among the contestants in just three minutes and 30 seconds. Many have merited multiple times here by luck. 112 out of 125 people were nominated for voting in the main competition, have all been judged in such a short period of time or just continuous merit giving where many are left out!

Also @ABCbits awarded 387 qualifying prizes to pizza contest entrants today. You have also given merit to 131 people in a single way, although you have tried to give merit awards to all  people, many have received merit more than once. You may have accidentally left something out.

ABCbits & LoyceV both awarded around 1065 merits today! Those who participated in the competition may be very happy to get such merit.

I do not know exactly how the pizzas for the distribution of merits were evaluated, but some of the pizzas were no different from others, but remained without merits, I have 20merits, I will gladly distribute them to those who did not receive them.  Smiley
Maybe some of the participants, including me, are on the ignore list, so they did not fall under the distribution. But it doesn't matter, the main thing is participation.

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June 09, 2024, 10:24:36 AM
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Also @ABCbits awarded 387 qualifying prizes to pizza contest entrants today. You have also given merit to 131 people in a single way, although you have tried to give merit awards to all  people, many have received merit more than once. You may have accidentally left something out.

That might be possible since i manually see and send merit to each entrants. Anyway i'll revisit this whole thread later to see whether i missed something. I also notice user @JayJuanGee send merit to so many entrants.

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Last edit: June 09, 2024, 04:50:37 PM by icopress
Merited by fillippone (3)
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The voting system is exactly the same as in the BCA (which in turn is really based on IRV), but in the modern realities of the forum it is not possible to strictly follow the letter of the rules. The order of the votes is not important as it will not reflect the majority opinion... and those who do not meet the criteria will be properly eliminated, those who do not meet the minimum threshold will also be eliminated.

For 4/5 years, everything was in order with the vote count and I don’t think anything will change this year. In any case, I usually don’t do anything that I’m not asked to do, so as not to waste my own or anyone else’s time.

By the way, I edited the Op and removed the mention of IRV, although...

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Wow! Today @LoyceV awarded merit prizes to the participants in the pizza contest. He distributed 678 merits among the contestants in just three minutes and 30 seconds. Many have merited multiple times here by luck.
I only Merited one post twice (accidentally). Scrolling, opening tabs and dealing with expired links that required me to reload the page probably caused this. Selecting this many posts to Merit took me a while.

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have all been judged in such a short period of time or just continuous merit giving where many are left out!
I made my own selection. Some users are on my ignore list already, some deserved a bit more than 8 Merits, some pizzas I ignored on purpose. And some users I couldn't Merit, because I already sent them 50 in the past 30 days.

Why the interest in Merit in your first week here, instead of commenting on, say, the pizzas?

By the way, I edited the Op
You should update this part:
Voting for the Best Pizza [Soon]

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June 09, 2024, 06:37:56 PM
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The only thing that puzzles me is the amount of work that icopress will face when counting votes.

I have a solution for counting votes. The problem is that users insist on not following the recommended format to vote!!!

VOTE IN THE FORMAT THAT @icopress GAVE!!!

If everyone votes, according to the guidelines, the votes will be counted in just a few minutes!

If you have a solution to do a IRV with 110 candidates in minutes, you might be into something.
I strongly advise you to sell this, as I saw some nog so cheap solutions for this.

If all users just used the voting template, I could do this. Then I just had to ask TryNinja to scrape the topic again to update all the posts that had been updated.



Sorry for the double post, but it was to show a count I put together just now:



It still needs some adjustments, but this is the current situation. Or rather, it was the panorama when the posts were made, before being edited.
If TryNinja manages to scrape the vote thread again, the data would be updated.

Without going in too much detail for obvious reasons, I know there is a pizza which got more than a few votes, I cannot see in that chart.
I don’t know if it still need to get updated, or there is a bug somewhere. Or maybe I didn’t get how it works.

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June 09, 2024, 06:42:00 PM
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Wow! Today @LoyceV awarded merit prizes to the participants in the pizza contest. He distributed 678 merits among the contestants in just three minutes and 30 seconds. Many have merited multiple times here by luck.
I only Merited one post twice (accidentally). Scrolling, opening tabs and dealing with expired links that required me to reload the page probably caused this. Selecting this many posts to Merit took me a while.

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have all been judged in such a short period of time or just continuous merit giving where many are left out!

I made my own selection. Some users are on my ignore list already, some deserved a bit more than 8 Merits, some pizzas I ignored on purpose. And some users I couldn't Merit, because I already sent them 50 in the past 30 days.

Why the interest in Merit in your first week here, instead of commenting on, say, the pizzas?
Don't get me wrong sir, I really didn't want to talk about merit here. All the contestants here tried their best to make the pizza, I saw you giving merit among all the contestants yesterday. Due to your continuous giving of merit many have dropped out. I mean people who didn't get merit here are not eligible to get merit at all. Or they have bad luck where they are mistakenly cancelled.

Those who are dropped from your list are no more likely to get merit from you.
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June 10, 2024, 07:43:48 AM
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Congratulations to all those who participated in this whole contest, but here is one thing that is going around in the mind: many have only uploaded pictures of the pizza.

How it works?
  • Post at least 2 photos: [1] Photo of Pizza + username and date [2] Photo of Pizza in the making Note
  • Pizza should be Bitcoin pizza (Bitcointalk style is allowed).
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  • I reserve the right to decide at my own discretion whether your baked goods are pizza or not.
Did they make their pizza or buy it from the store and upload the image? I found this issue suspicious, so I said it. What do those who are experienced think?  It is also necessary to check whether everyone has followed the instructions from icopress bro. I don't know if I said it right, I apologize if I said it wrong.

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Did they make their pizza or buy it from the store and upload the image? I found this issue suspicious, so I said it. What do those who are experienced think?  It is also necessary to check whether everyone has followed the instructions from icopress bro. I don't know if I said it right, I apologize if I said it wrong.
Is there an entry that included into voting phase when the user only upload the pizza without the process?

I know there are few users that forgot to take picture of their pizza with their username, but they still upload the process and I don't see anything suspicious like (the pizza is different, the background changed etc). So, I think they're really forgot, not cheating or something like that.

After all, if the winners already announced, anyone can going back to the thread and check whether the entry is valid or not.

FYI, there are 13 pizzas excluded, those pizzas might be AI generated, not a pizza, not a valid entry etc.

 
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June 10, 2024, 08:17:47 AM
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Without going in too much detail for obvious reasons, I know there is a pizza which got more than a few votes, I cannot see in that chart.
I don’t know if it still need to get updated, or there is a bug somewhere. Or maybe I didn’t get how it works.

What I did was just a quick sketch of what I was capable of.
Each table has each choice, according to the voting order - which doesn't seem to count, and thank goodness.
And if some posts have been edited, updates will not be counted.
Furthermore, some posts were not counted, as they did not follow the format requested by @icopress.

Here is an overview of the current votes (indicating only pizzas with 3 or more votes) (take into account the points mentioned before):


@icopress If you don't want me to present this data, say so. If you want the tool I created, say so. Wink

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June 10, 2024, 09:29:51 AM
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 #376

Sorry again for the double post, but the table I presented before had a small configuration bug and was not displaying some data, which should have appeared (The votes for pizzas numbered #100 and up were not being counted).

Some considerations that should be taken into account when looking at these numbers:
- These are not definitive results
- Votes that were edited are not included
- Votes that were not presented, according to the format suggested by the OP, are not included
- May include double votes and invalid votes, as I did not do this quality filter
- Pizzas with less than 3 votes do not appear on the list (although they are included in my file)
- In a post that the user quoted, all the votes may not be included
- This is just an outline and there may be other criteria that are not configured. I will only improve the file if @icopress is interested in using it.

Below is the updated table:

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Man, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop posting preliminary voting results.

1. Anyone can edit their post until the thread is locked, so this may not be accurate.
2. Information about leaders or laggards can affect objectivity (very significantly).
3. Thanks to the preliminary results, the intrigue disappears.

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Also @ABCbits awarded 387 qualifying prizes to pizza contest entrants today. You have also given merit to 131 people in a single way, although you have tried to give merit awards to all  people, many have received merit more than once. You may have accidentally left something out.

That might be possible since i manually see and send merit to each entrants. Anyway i'll revisit this whole thread later to see whether i missed something. I also notice user @JayJuanGee send merit to so many entrants.
It ain’t easy having to go through all them pages and to the many contestants we have in the pizza contest, making the associated threads colourful and leaves a few lovers of good Italian pizza salivating.
However, one way to keep track of all of them is in the initial thread for uploading them pizza where, through the compiled picture evidence of entries, you can review posts from individual entries.

However, what might have been left out are the late entries and disqualifications based on other reasons. Though these might not count, efforts are still there which is worth rewarding.

The contest have become a large one and forum intuitive, am amazed at how motivated users are towards this eventuality.

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Man, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop posting preliminary voting results.
2. Information about leaders or laggards can affect objectivity (very significantly).
I feel so too. It’s a nice idea and the open ballot system used here is very cool though, having to analyze and post these votes before it’s time could influence individual decisions as, users would tend to review where the most votes are cast, seek out those options more for a potential vote, leaving less and less concentration on other entries.

Of course this could be the case should users randomly check but, it would mean a ton of work too and not many users would want to go through that and pre-result exposure like this makes the work easy for them towards this goal and concentrates votes.
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Man, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop posting preliminary voting results.

1. Anyone can edit their post until the thread is locked, so this may not be accurate.
2. Information about leaders or laggards can affect objectivity (very significantly).
3. Thanks to the preliminary results, the intrigue disappears.

Agreed and I apologize for the inconvenience. That wasn't my intention.

Either way, I made it clear that the information is incomplete and inaccurate.


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June 10, 2024, 07:09:09 PM
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- Votes that were not presented, according to the format suggested by the OP, are not included
I didn't think about that so I have a question for icopress: do the votes have to be submitted using the code format otherwise they won't be considered valid even if the user has all the correct requirements (account age, merits, and active before the contest) to vote?

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