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June 01, 2024, 11:37:31 AM
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If you say so then we should see the gambling board as the land of outcast 😅. The traffic over there is one of the largest in the Forum and no other board comes close, at least 30% if not 45% of the Special attention (like you said) given to other boards should be thrown in that direction, gambling board shouldn't be seen as an excluded area in the Forum (just like Off-topic). In as much as we have lots of spamming in the gambling section I think we still have members who drops quality post in that board.
I did not mean excluded area but to treat it as just a regular board. It does not need any attention. Regarding 30% of 45%, do you have a stat or you are just guessing? The member who drops real post are earning merit that's what I said on my post, merit is not for spammers.

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June 01, 2024, 01:24:50 PM
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If you say so then we should see the gambling board as the land of outcast 😅. The traffic over there is one of the largest in the Forum and no other board comes close, at least 30% if not 45% of the Special attention (like you said) given to other boards should be thrown in that direction, gambling board shouldn't be seen as an excluded area in the Forum (just like Off-topic). In as much as we have lots of spamming in the gambling section I think we still have members who drops quality post in that board.
I did not mean excluded area but to treat it as just a regular board. It does not need any attention. Regarding 30% of 45%, do you have a stat or you are just guessing? The member who drops real post are earning merit that's what I said on my post, merit is not for spammers.

I get what you said but we know spamming in the Forum is something that can't be avoided and we shouldn't use because of other members who spam without knowing (if I should say) to dust off the other members and to be frank with you, members hardly get merit on post in that section and is very hard to even get half a merit in the first page of any thread in gambling section. About the % I just said like a little attention should be paid to that section of the Forum but since you said is not like the gambling board should be left like that is still cool to make that section feel among.

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June 01, 2024, 05:52:17 PM
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Why the sources need to give merit to gambling posts if most of the posts are not merit worthy? Huh

Most of the posts doesn't have any point, let's say someone talk about sport that the match will start tomorrow, instead of giving their analyst and choose the team that will win. They will say "well I think A will win, but if they're not lucky, B will win", what's the point?
Not all gambling posts looks like the one you just described. There are also post in the gambling section that gives indept analysis about a club, a coach or players. There are good posts in the gambling section, that as a sports Man, when you read it you will see that the author has valid points and the posts makes sense.

There are good posters in the gambling section, if as a merit source you come across posts that don't make sense or posts that are shitty you have to ignore it and look at other posts. Not all the posts in the gambling section are low quality.

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June 06, 2024, 12:28:50 PM
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I get what you said but we know spamming in the Forum is something that can't be avoided and we shouldn't use because of other members who spam without knowing (if I should say) to dust off the other members and to be frank with you, members hardly get merit on post in that section and is very hard to even get half a merit in the first page of any thread in gambling section. About the % I just said like a little attention should be paid to that section of the Forum but since you said is not like the gambling board should be left like that is still cool to make that section feel among.
You could be right or wrong. If we have a statistics about merit earning from the gambling boards including the ration then I think there will be a chance to agree in an agreement. Otherwise it does not seem both of us will have the same agreement. Spammers are not only in the gambling section but all over the forum. When you see a spam you can help the forum by reporting the spam posts [if you care].

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June 06, 2024, 01:34:53 PM
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You could be right or wrong. If we have a statistics about merit earning from the gambling boards including the ration then I think there will be a chance to agree in an agreement. Otherwise it does not seem both of us will have the same agreement. Spammers are not only in the gambling section but all over the forum. When you see a spam you can help the forum by reporting the spam posts [if you care].

I know spamming is one of the major battle everyone who wants the Forum to grow is fighting against but I've been asking myself, what is the way forward to stop it? How can members avoid (I think is very hard for many) it because the gambling section has been marked as the number one area where spamming do take place (correct me if I'm wrong) that's why merit hardly shows up there. Is there a way to say fine if a member uses this method you're spammer and mind you, some don't take note of all these things that are against the Forum rules and regulations, they just do their thing, is there a better way to skip it? People only think of what they want to post without putting first the rules of the Forum and it becomes a bigger problem for everyone.

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June 06, 2024, 02:15:55 PM
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Gambling board is on my ignore list, but a lot of merit sources wear gambling signatures and therefore they are forced to create posts there, which means that your chance of getting merits there is higher.

Does anyone still force someone to write their posts in a particular board? My campaign does not require it, although I sometimes peek into that board and write some posts - because I think the best way to promote some company is actually writing in a variety of boards, not focusing on one board.

The number of posts in this board is simply such that even some super good post is quickly remained cluttered with dozens of posts mostly of those campaigns that seek quantity instead of quality.

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June 06, 2024, 02:28:45 PM
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Gambling board is on my ignore list, but a lot of merit sources wear gambling signatures and therefore they are forced to create posts there, which means that your chance of getting merits there is higher.

Does anyone still force someone to write their posts in a particular board?

Yes, the majority of campaigns have a minimum requirement for posting there, so some find themselves forced to become gamblers when in reality they haven't or don't plan on gambling ever.  There are always funny moments when someone who says that gambling is against his religion posts about betting or some who think gambling is bad and should be banned are wearing a signature for a casino!

To be honest I don't think those posters even realize what they are saying and doing!


In as much as we have lots of spamming in the gambling section I think we still have members who drops quality post in that board.

Again I'm willing to bet that the few who do so, which you can count on using your fingers,  are at the same time the last persons on this forum who would ask for merit.


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June 09, 2024, 02:07:02 AM
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Does anyone still force someone to write their posts in a particular board?

Yes, the majority of campaigns have a minimum requirement for posting there, so some find themselves forced to become gamblers when in reality they haven't or don't plan on gambling ever.  There are always funny moments when someone who says that gambling is against his religion posts about betting or some who think gambling is bad and should be banned are wearing a signature for a casino!

Funny. And the posting requirement also leads to the section being flooded with posts like this:

Gambling is gambling and it doesn't have to be up to a single percent or more than before we can know that it's gambling and the risk involved there as well, the challenge is for us not to only gamble when we think we are not in good disposition for taking the risk involved because as far as what we are doing is gambling, we are taking a long it's risk together in it to gamble with, and what we must do is to ensure going for what we can afford to bear, the minimum risk is to avoid taking the risk at all, but doing little is also the same as getting involved in every chances of risk involved in gambling.

Posters like these aren't even trying to say anything when they post. They just trudge through the keyboard, churning out perfunctory text that loosely makes sense but doesn't convey any actual information. Again, I can't believe the bar is so low for these campaigns.

In as much as we have lots of spamming in the gambling section I think we still have members who drops quality post in that board.

Again I'm willing to bet that the few who do so, which you can count on using your fingers,  are at the same time the last persons on this forum who would ask for merit.

True. One of my favorite gambling posters left the forum altogether... They are too good at what they do to bother posting here anymore.

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June 09, 2024, 08:45:31 AM
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Being a regular in the Gambling sections, the quality of posts there is less as compared to other sections because most casino campaigns have a weekly specific quota for Gambling posts and thus we see churning out of similar posts and rehashed content in different ways of speaking.

Still I try to merit some of the posts that have some quality in them or actually discusses something that is on topic. But chances are low of me going to a thread and reading the 5*10 pages of replies and finding one post worth giving a merit to.

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June 10, 2024, 03:11:03 PM
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Not all gambling posts looks like the one you just described. There are also post in the gambling section that gives indept analysis about a club, a coach or players. There are good posts in the gambling section, that as a sports Man, when you read it you will see that the author has valid points and the posts makes sense.

There are good posters in the gambling section, if as a merit source you come across posts that don't make sense or posts that are shitty you have to ignore it and look at other posts. Not all the posts in the gambling section are low quality.
Even though I didn't read in detail what was posted on several gambling topics, I clearly saw that the gambling topics gave me a little enlightenment about good analysis before a match starts, so I can consider something before placing a bet, so as stated you say, not all members who make posts on gambling topics are spammers

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There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.

I'm not in doubt that the gambling board do have Merit source but the board doesn't really seems like there's a single merit source talk more or many because I haven't seen merits flowing.
I've personally been wondering about this for times now. Let me not say there had been quality posts in the gambling board as I'm not a Merit source to figure that out unless I've sMerit to merit desired quality posts in there but my question is that since merits hasn't been flowing there, does it mean there hadn't been quality posts to be merited?
Sorry does it really mean that merit sources do have the right to do whatever they chooses to with merits assigned to them to distribute in the board?

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Sorry does it really mean that merit sources do have the right to do whatever they chooses to with merits assigned to them to distribute in the board?
Some members apply to be merit sources of a particular section, however if their application is approved by the admin, it does not mean they cannot merit posts outside that section, but most of their source merits would likely be spread in the section they indicated in their application.

The only gambling board merit source application i have seen is this one, and as far as i know it hasn't been approved yet, so there is no merit source for that section.

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The only gambling board merit source application i have seen is this one, and as far as i know it hasn't been approved yet, so there is no merit source for that section.

From what I saw I don't think that's going to work I mean on the link you provided, the best thing is send someone to base on the gambling section to attend to quality post, if not then I think that section is on it's own. I don't know if the spamming is what's making merit source to abstain from the gambling board, I can't tell. But 1 or 2 merit source should throw some attention over to the gambling board and I think it will make members who post there to add some seriousness, there will be some improvement in that section if it happens.

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June 12, 2024, 06:20:50 PM
 #54

The only gambling board merit source application i have seen is this one, and as far as i know it hasn't been approved yet, so there is no merit source for that section.

From what I saw I don't think that's going to work I mean on the link you provided, the best thing is send someone to base on the gambling section to attend to quality post, if not then I think that section is on it's own. I don't know if the spamming is what's making merit source to abstain from the gambling board, I can't tell. But 1 or 2 merit source should throw some attention over to the gambling board and I think it will make members who post there to add some seriousness, there will be some improvement in that section if it happens.

For real, this will work, the gambling board is also a section of the forum. And it's weird to say that members of this forum who write well in other sections lose their writing skills when on the gambling section. Lots of good writers with nice contributions are on the section, but the conversation does not vary so extensively with other created threads. Which could be a good reason why most merit sources get tired of reading the section. Looking at it you'll notice how the gambling niche revolves around addiction, win or loss. Hence, they are no much new discovery on discussion that wouldn't sit on the three I mentioned above. So, with the involvement of merit sources on casino campaigns they'll most likely read through few responses on the board, and figure out the few ones eligible for merits. The efforts there shouldn't be tagged as wasted.

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June 22, 2024, 06:15:12 PM
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The only gambling board merit source application i have seen is this one, and as far as i know it hasn't been approved yet, so there is no merit source for that section.

From what I saw I don't think that's going to work I mean on the link you provided, the best thing is send someone to base on the gambling section to attend to quality post, if not then I think that section is on it's own. I don't know if the spamming is what's making merit source to abstain from the gambling board, I can't tell. But 1 or 2 merit source should throw some attention over to the gambling board and I think it will make members who post there to add some seriousness, there will be some improvement in that section if it happens.

For real, this will work, the gambling board is also a section of the forum. And it's weird to say that members of this forum who write well in other sections lose their writing skills when on the gambling section. Lots of good writers with nice contributions are on the section, but the conversation does not vary so extensively with other created threads. Which could be a good reason why most merit sources get tired of reading the section. Looking at it you'll notice how the gambling niche revolves around addiction, win or loss. Hence, they are no much new discovery on discussion that wouldn't sit on the three I mentioned above. So, with the involvement of merit sources on casino campaigns they'll most likely read through few responses on the board, and figure out the few ones eligible for merits. The efforts there shouldn't be tagged as wasted.

Or can we say one of the reasons why gambling board lacks merit is because almost all the merit source are not into gambling or they don't really fancy going there to read post in that section. I'm just saying and if you check we hardly see some of them posting there even if they the campaign they're in support gambling.
If is not addiction then the discussion won't make members say much about a thread so we shouldn't blame users if the topics keeps repeating it self and that shouldn't stop merit source from strolling towards that area.

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June 22, 2024, 08:08:48 PM
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For real, this will work, the gambling board is also a section of the forum. And it's weird to say that members of this forum who write well in other sections lose their writing skills when on the gambling section. Lots of good writers with nice contributions are on the section, but the conversation does not vary so extensively with other created threads. Which could be a good reason why most merit sources get tired of reading the section. Looking at it you'll notice how the gambling niche revolves around addiction, win or loss. Hence, they are no much new discovery on discussion that wouldn't sit on the three I mentioned above. So, with the involvement of merit sources on casino campaigns they'll most likely read through few responses on the board, and figure out the few ones eligible for merits. The efforts there shouldn't be tagged as wasted.

There are merits on the gambling board, but not as many as on other boards, and those who post on proper thread with less spam find it much easier to gain merit than those who exclusively post on mega spam threads that no one reads... I've handed out a few merits on the gambling board, and I've received a couple of them. It's also about posting where everyone can read.

Or can we say one of the reasons why gambling board lacks merit is because almost all the merit source are not into gambling or they don't really fancy going there to read post in that section. I'm just saying and if you check we hardly see some of them posting there even if they the campaign they're in support gambling.

Most of the individuals I engage with on the gambling board are merit sources who rarely read mega threads. Those who complain about not receiving a single merit are the ones who spam mega threads and avoid discussing in self-moderated threads.

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June 22, 2024, 10:00:31 PM
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There are many merit sources on gambling boards now. The problem is that they do not like to give merit to gambling posts. I see many more of them when mixers and Bestchange campaigns ended, most of them are now hearing the signature and avatar of gambling sites.
Yes, if we look at various posts on gambling platforms, a very small percentage of posts get merit. Indeed, each merit sources certainly has certain criteria in distributing their merits. And so far, it could be that the discussion on gambling is not one of the priorities for getting merits.

Oh yes, actually it's not just the merit awards, but also us as members, so far I personally have never given merits on the gambling board, or I forgot. Have we become accustomed to the fact that it is only for gambling discussions, so we ourselves are not able to think about it to provide merits?

Gambling board is on my ignore list, but a lot of merit sources wear gambling signatures and therefore they are forced to create posts there, which means that your chance of getting merits there is higher.

Does anyone still force someone to write their posts in a particular board? My campaign does not require it, although I sometimes peek into that board and write some posts - because I think the best way to promote some company is actually writing in a variety of boards, not focusing on one board.
Yes, there are still some campaigns, especially altcoins, which still have exceptions for posting on several boards, one of which is on gambling boards. However, this also seems to be because who knows what the project team wants, that their target is not on the gambling boards. So, whatever it is, we just do it according to the rules of each campaign we are running.

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Most of the individuals I engage with on the gambling board are merit sources who rarely read mega threads. Those who complain about not receiving a single merit are the ones who spam mega threads and avoid discussing in self-moderated threads.

Not everyone who noticed these spamming on the Forum like those who post, some just do their thing and go without checking the harm it will cause but I believe with time the number of spamming will reduce especially in the gambling board. I myself I don't really know most of the merit source, I see them same way I see other Forum members without knowing they hold a particular position but I wish one source would be in control in the gambling section.

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June 23, 2024, 08:54:02 AM
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Most of the individuals I engage with on the gambling board are merit sources who rarely read mega threads. Those who complain about not receiving a single merit are the ones who spam mega threads and avoid discussing in self-moderated threads.
The threads in gambling that end with 15 pages on average are the regular posting sections for those who are enrolled in casino signature campaigns with a gambling section posting requirement. Then there are those discussion threads that go for hundreds of pages. I believe you are talking about the first one, because I have rarely seen posts beyond page 2 getting merited and then the discussion gets rehashed and off topic from the OP.

There are specific threads where some sources are regulars, but not everyone feels welcome while posting in them. Cool

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I myself I don't really know most of the merit source, I see them same way I see other Forum members without knowing they hold a particular position but I wish one source would be in control in the gambling section.

This is the list of both old and New merit source + allocation power https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

There are specific threads where some sources are regulars, but not everyone feels welcome while posting in them. Cool

You're referring to sponsored pool threads - well, you're welcome to Post but we only allowed participants so you're gonna pay small fee to come onboard and enjoy all the privilege that follows...  Cheesy

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