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July 07, 2024, 05:00:00 PM
 #181

If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.

Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked

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July 07, 2024, 07:29:16 PM
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Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.

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July 08, 2024, 08:46:36 AM
 #183

Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.

That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.

Just leave this threads and bump it sometimes to help other users to avoid this casino.

That's what we are doing by posting in this thread, we are bumping it to other people's attention.

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July 08, 2024, 11:36:22 AM
 #184

If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.
Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.
Common, changing withdrawal limit several times per month means that they have really problems with the honesty. It is possible on the beginning, when they are trying to understand what sums are comfortable to the casino.


Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked
I didn`t control the ToS, but as i see, these changes are noticed by other members, so i think it means, that it is common withdrawal changes.



Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

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July 08, 2024, 05:38:33 PM
 #185

If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.

Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked
From what I know or have learnt so far, it seems to me that the terms and conditions was changed generally for all users and even potential users, I actually visited the casino and took a glimpse on the terms and conditions, and what was written there is the new one, and not the old one, which means that the terms were changed for all, and not for one user or some few selected ones.

And you are right about casinos communicating their intentions of new rules to their users before formerly updating their terms and conditions with such rules and implementing it into their system.
But then, its quite unfortunate that not every casino will follow or obey this process as several of them value their users differently, and also important to understand is that, casinos with no intention of serving customers for a long time, will sure do what ever they want with their term and conditions, as long as it favors them and helps them in achieving whatever their mission is.

The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.

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July 08, 2024, 06:19:14 PM
 #186

Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.

It is no problem casino changing their rules at any time. Terms and conditions of service are subject to changes as they are just temporary as stated by some casinos  and it is their right to do so but it would be nice that prior to changing the terms and conditions, their members or clients should be fully in the know so that they do not get stucked up or trapped in the course of gambling that has to do with the casino having in mind to check for the current changes. These are the problems that occurs between casinos and their client for change of policy without sending a memo for such actions.


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July 10, 2024, 07:37:11 PM
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The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.
At the end this is what matters, making a deposit in a new casino can be exciting as you do not know what kind of games they may have at their disposal, but it is precisely because you do not know what it may happen that you need to be very cautious when dealing with them, and this is a clear case about it, since there is no one that in their right mind will want to go through what the OP is going through, as having such a low withdrawal limit makes very difficult for high rollers to ever withdraw their winnings from that casino.
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July 10, 2024, 08:13:34 PM
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The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.
At the end this is what matters, making a deposit in a new casino can be exciting as you do not know what kind of games they may have at their disposal, but it is precisely because you do not know what it may happen that you need to be very cautious when dealing with them, and this is a clear case about it, since there is no one that in their right mind will want to go through what the OP is going through, as having such a low withdrawal limit makes very difficult for high rollers to ever withdraw their winnings from that casino.
If you are really that a fan of testing out some new platforms or sites then it's not bad on taking up such step or move since each one of us does have that different kind of approach and preference on things and that's why even if we are aware that it's risky on dealing up with new sites but somehow you do able to see something interesting and this is why you do really end up on having that kind of engagement toward new platforms, but the ideal approach on their one is that's you do know on how to assess things on which you do make out some small deposits for the sake of testing out.

Never ever make out that kind of all in kind of deposit on which at the moment you do find yourself having that huge deposits and ended up on having locked up funds then it would really be that an unfortunate thing.

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July 13, 2024, 10:13:34 AM
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Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.
You are making a good point my brother and I've iterated similar points on the forums. You see, casinos/sportsbooks are seriously underregulated, which is why there are no basis and warnings, otherwise, they would have sat more uprightly. They will not dare to do some ugly things because regulations will be closely monitoring them just like the CBN is watching and monitoring banks, they will easily detect issues. And even if they do not detect some issues, there will be avenues where customers can log their complaints, and when it has gotten to a high alarming rate, the regulators will act.

By then, such casinos/sportsbooks could be hit with heavy fines to the tune of millions of dollars, will they dare to try that openly again? I guess not. But for the lack of that, that's why they can update their terms and conditions among others and be silent about it, this is awkward in monetary deals. The standard procedures force them to duly notify all their customers by any means necessary and ensure that they accept it before they can continue with their company. Sadly, I only see this in financial and trading activities, and with a very minute percentage of betting platforms I've played with.

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July 15, 2024, 10:21:56 AM
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You are making a good point my brother and I've iterated similar points on the forums. You see, casinos/sportsbooks are seriously underregulated, which is why there are no basis and warnings, otherwise, they would have sat more uprightly. They will not dare to do some ugly things because regulations will be closely monitoring them just like the CBN is watching and monitoring banks, they will easily detect issues. And even if they do not detect some issues, there will be avenues where customers can log their complaints, and when it has gotten to a high alarming rate, the regulators will act.

By then, such casinos/sportsbooks could be hit with heavy fines to the tune of millions of dollars, will they dare to try that openly again? I guess not. But for the lack of that, that's why they can update their terms and conditions among others and be silent about it, this is awkward in monetary deals. The standard procedures force them to duly notify all their customers by any means necessary and ensure that they accept it before they can continue with their company. Sadly, I only see this in financial and trading activities, and with a very minute percentage of betting platforms I've played with.
Even in my country all i heard about casinos` fines - were with big bettors. If your standard bet $5-50 - you is nobody for casino, without any rights. ToS is written for casino and, sometimes, for big boys.
Even in my country i willn`t go to the court - even if i win - it would be about $100-500 and at least several month of work.  And if the casino license in the Curacao - just forget it.

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July 15, 2024, 11:09:41 AM
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.

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July 15, 2024, 11:44:32 AM
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.
One of the common issues or thing that do happen into this forum is that there are people who do make out a new account, telling some issues or problems on a certain site without being mindful on giving out some updates
basing up into the condition or situation that they are facing,whether its been that resolved out or still pending. They would really be that forgetting on which making the community would really be left hanging
and keeps puzzled whether it has been that solved or not. Usually these kind of issues raised up into those sites on which arent that heard off into this forum or not really that simply a popular thing.
One of the main issues on this one is on the moment that you would really be dealing up with sites which arent that known here on this forum. One of the main risks that you would be able to encounter.

If you dont like to experience headaches and problems or issues with things then it would really be better that you should really be sticking into those popular or simply known into this forum
on which you could really be able to read up feedbacks and real experiences from people here on this forum. There's soo much difference when it comes tot his aspect because this is where
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One of the common issues or thing that do happen into this forum is that there are people who do make out a new account, telling some issues or problems on a certain site without being mindful on giving out some updates
basing up into the condition or situation that they are facing,whether its been that resolved out or still pending. They would really be that forgetting on which making the community would really be left hanging
and keeps puzzled whether it has been that solved or not. Usually these kind of issues raised up into those sites on which arent that heard off into this forum or not really that simply a popular thing.
One of the main issues on this one is on the moment that you would really be dealing up with sites which arent that known here on this forum. One of the main risks that you would be able to encounter.
It seems that this case is not resolved based on reviews from several members who provided information regarding withdrawal limits that are not updated in the rules and withdrawal limits on the account, we hope for a response from the OP to respond regarding this problem but he will not return and maybe he will continue to withdraw all the funds every day even though the withdrawal limit is still low. Gambling at non-reputable and trusted casinos is very risky because the rules are unclear, the games are detrimental to gamblers, and many other things are unfair to gamblers. So leave the obscure casinos behind and we have a list of top crypto casinos here and you are free to choose any of them because they already have positive feedback and trust.

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July 16, 2024, 07:16:40 AM
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.
I don`t think we`ll hear the OP once more. But it doesn`t mean that we mustn`t try.
If i have some problems with withdraw i try to change the casino mostly. There were just few situations, when it was my mistake and as the result i had no more problems with casino - in these situation i continued gambling. But most times it looks like red flag for the casino and i try to withdraw all my money and change it.

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August 06, 2024, 09:11:53 AM
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If you dont like to experience headaches and problems or issues with things then it would really be better that you should really be sticking into those popular or simply known into this forum
on which you could really be able to read up feedbacks and real experiences from people here on this forum. There's soo much difference when it comes tot his aspect because this is where
you would really be getting your basis whether you should be playing or not. Why would go into those new or unheard of?

Exactly. That's the simplest answer to the question "how to avoid situations that happened to OP?". However attractive their adds might be, if they are not presented on this forum -  do not register there, or you might regret it later.

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If you dont like to experience headaches and problems or issues with things then it would really be better that you should really be sticking into those popular or simply known into this forum
on which you could really be able to read up feedbacks and real experiences from people here on this forum. There's soo much difference when it comes tot his aspect because this is where
you would really be getting your basis whether you should be playing or not. Why would go into those new or unheard of?

Exactly. That's the simplest answer to the question "how to avoid situations that happened to OP?". However attractive their adds might be, if they are not presented on this forum -  do not register there, or you might regret it later.
Even if they are here - first of all - DYOR. Feedback, last news, changes - all of it must be analyzed before deposit in new casino. There is one bad moment, it calls "bonus for the first deposit". It makes you make a big deposit but as result you can give money to someone like Betiro. Think about it. Sometimes it would be better to risk $10 than to lose $1000.

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August 13, 2024, 09:54:43 PM
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Hello everyone,

I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience:

Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances.
I have had such an experience with daily limit of withdrawal on my bet account but on the site I used there's no limits on the amount a gambler would withdraw but it's the number of time you withdraw. Actually I can't recall how many times one have to withdraw before it elapse (maybe 3 to 5 times P/day). The reason they are doing this is probably because of money laundry and other illegal activity.

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August 13, 2024, 11:21:11 PM
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Hello everyone,

I wanted to share my concerns regarding the withdrawal limits and payment processes on the Betiro platform. Here’s my experience:

Initially, I deposited 5000 USDT into my Betiro account. After losing this balance, I added another 10,000 USDT to my account. When my account balance eventually reached 21,000 USDT, I decided to withdraw 1000 USDT. However, I was quite surprised and disappointed to discover that there is a daily withdrawal limit of only $500, which I find to be highly unreasonable given the circumstances.
I have had such an experience with daily limit of withdrawal on my bet account but on the site I used there's no limits on the amount a gambler would withdraw but it's the number of time you withdraw. Actually I can't recall how many times one have to withdraw before it elapse (maybe 3 to 5 times P/day). The reason they are doing this is probably because of money laundry and other illegal activity.
Well, in the case of Betiro (or what ever the name of the casino in question is called), their limitation to withdrawal is not really as a way to prevent money laundering, but more like they are a new casino and can't afford to process a withdrawal amount that is higher than that which they have set as limit.

I do not know how long the casino has been running though, but clearly from the look of things, what I said above may perhaps, be the scenario.

But there are also other scenarios to note as well, which another might be that they may likely be planning a rug, that is, they allow unsuspecting users deposit as much money as they want to deposit, but won't be able to withdraw more than $500, and as soon as soon they have gathered enough, they vanish. This is also possible as well, so, best to avoid this casino.

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August 13, 2024, 11:30:13 PM
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.

It seems like a month ago when he was last active here in the op on the topic he made. The only thing he complains about is that his money can't be taken out all at once compared to when he enters the fund; even if it's only one day, he can get it in quickly when he deposits what he's going to do.

Well, at this point, it looks like he didn't immediately read in Tos that the casino has such terms or rules when it comes to withdrawal limits. And it seems that I don't see anything wrong with that because it is also within the jurisdiction of the casino management to make such rules. So I think there is nothing he can do but follow the daily withdrawal limits on the platform instead of withdrawing money every day.

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