UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

[Jegileman]

To be able to win the Champions League trophy is not an easy job, let alone Arsenal, even PSG are still unable to do it. We realize that every team has the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, including Arsenal, but it is better for them to focus on the Premier League first. In my opinion, Arsenal will have the opportunity to compete with the Champions League favorites in the future, once they are truly able to conquer the Premier League. Arsenal has shown signs of success, Arteta needs to maintain his squad performance so that it does not decline, and start next season more impressively.

So Arsenal are not capable enough to win the Champions League trophy and should focus more on the premier league? I don’t think so and if they do that they’re undermining their strength as a team. They should try and be at their best when participating in the two competitions so that they get use to it from now. If they don’t play and come out as their best in both competitions, how can they win more than one trophy in a season talk more of winning treble. I have a thing that Arsenal will win a trophy next season if they keep up with their performance or rather improve their performance, but I’m not certain which of the trophy they’ll get to win in the next season.

[irhact]

And I think even the arsenal fans themselves know this because they have an outstanding issue that have been faced with them for time now and they can't seem to really get their finger wrapped around the issue which is the torment that Manchester city has given to them in terms of always snatching the premier league from them even with their very best effort and this is one of the major reason many feel they are not yet upto standard of winning the UCL.

A team can win the champions league without winning their domestic leagues, Liverpool has done this before and Real Madrid the biggest winners of the championship league have lost their domestic league but won the champions league many times. Arsenal are capable of winning the champions league if they are determined and have a good squad depth. Arsenal always start their season very well but they start having issues when the season has gone half as they don't have quality players on the bench that they can use when their starting eleven isn't giving the coach the results he wants. Instead of trying to sign starting players that'll be very expensive, arsenal should hurt for backups.

[nelson4lov]

So Mbappe signed for Real Madrid today but there aren't much talks about it on this thread. That's good to see, really. I know Madrid has taken the center stage this season as one of the biggest favorites to win it but I'm not buying it because that was what everyone thought about City during that last UCL that they'd make it  back to back UCL title wins because they won the PL in 4 consecutive seasons.

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I also believe that whoever wins UCL this year , won't be from City , Real , Barca or Inter and Bayern and most likely it will be a surprise team that will have a legendary run.

You just spoke my mind. The team to win it won't be the clear favorites that everybody is gunning for.  I'm personally tipping Liverpool to do it even if my choice is biased but who knows.

[SUPERSAIAN]

So Mbappe signed for Real Madrid today but there aren't much talks about it on this thread. That's good to see, really. I know Madrid has taken the center stage this season as one of the biggest favorites to win it but I'm not buying it because that was what everyone thought about City during that last UCL that they'd make it  back to back UCL title wins because they won the PL in 4 consecutive seasons.

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I also believe that whoever wins UCL this year , won't be from City , Real , Barca or Inter and Bayern and most likely it will be a surprise team that will have a legendary run.

You just spoke my mind. The team to win it won't be the clear favorites that everybody is gunning for.  I'm personally tipping Liverpool to do it even if my choice is biased but who knows.

Mbappe was talked about a lot before the transfer, anyway, the transfer finally happened and Real Madrid got the center forward they were looking for, four-year contract, everything looks good.

For the Champions League, everyone generally says that a surprise team will come out and take the cup, but generally the cup hunter like Real Madrid usually carries the cup. They have strengthened their weapons this season, other teams are doing the same, there is still time for the transfer season to get more active.

[promise444c5]

To be able to win the Champions League trophy is not an easy job, let alone Arsenal, even PSG are still unable to do it. We realize that every team has the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, including Arsenal, but it is better for them to focus on the Premier League first. In my opinion, Arsenal will have the opportunity to compete with the Champions League favorites in the future, once they are truly able to conquer the Premier League. Arsenal has shown signs of success, Arteta needs to maintain his squad performance so that it does not decline, and start next season more impressively.

True! It's not an easy job , thus  IMO PSG lacks a better coach to be candid, even when they had a perfect squad  they couldn't win it(maybe too much of star player but I still feel they need a better coach).
Arsenal has what it takes to win the Champions league  if they could compete with Mancity, Mancity made it past the group stage in the last two years they won the championship once of the two years and and still compete with Arsenal in Premier league to still win it whereas  Arsenal couldn't even make it past the group stage, they really need to double their effor even if they want to win EPL next year

[ndutndut]

And I think even the arsenal fans themselves know this because they have an outstanding issue that have been faced with them for time now and they can't seem to really get their finger wrapped around the issue which is the torment that Manchester city has given to them in terms of always snatching the premier league from them even with their very best effort and this is one of the major reason many feel they are not yet upto standard of winning the UCL.

A team can win the champions league without winning their domestic leagues, Liverpool has done this before and Real Madrid the biggest winners of the championship league have lost their domestic league but won the champions league many times. Arsenal are capable of winning the champions league if they are determined and have a good squad depth. Arsenal always start their season very well but they start having issues when the season has gone half as they don't have quality players on the bench that they can use when their starting eleven isn't giving the coach the results he wants. Instead of trying to sign starting players that'll be very expensive, arsenal should hurt for backups.

Yes agree. To win the UCL league you don't have to win the domestic league. This has been proven by several clubs as you mentioned. Indeed, winning the domestic league will be a factor in proving their consistency in every match. The problem is, Arsenal failed in the last two seasons because they didn't have a bicycle reserve player, which made Arteta not dare to rotate players.

We know that player rotation is very important to maintain player fitness, especially if you are pursuing targets in the domestic league and UCL league. In fact, in the last two years under coach Arteta there have been many developments and changes, in the domestic league they competed very closely with Man City and last season in the UCL league they also played well, but many Arsenal players were tired. in the end they were no longer consistent in the end. season. This was also proven when they lost to Bayern Munich, in fact their game was quite good but they did not have reserve players who were the difference who could score goals in every match.

This is Arteta's main task next season, strengthening reserve players so that it is not impossible to be successful in UCL matches. It is true that they are not favored to win the UCL trophy next season, but in football anything can happen and luck definitely exists in football.

[kawetsriyanto]

True! It's not an easy job , thus  IMO PSG lacks a better coach to be candid, even when they had a perfect squad  they couldn't win it(maybe too much of star player but I still feel they need a better coach).

Which PSG coach are you referring to?
Mauricio Pochettino, Thomas Tuchel, Unai Emery, Laurent Blanc, and Carlo Ancelotti are few former coaches of PSG. None of them are bad coaches, even Ancelotti is the most successful coach in football history, especially in UCL. I think PSG is just unlucky that they always failed to win UCL.

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/paris-saint-germain/9/

Well, Luis Enrique is the coach of PSG now. He is also a great coach, but not sure if he is able to lead PSG winning UCL trophy. FYI, he also ever won UCL trophy with Barcelona.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/luis-enrique/erfolge/trainer/6499

To win the UCL league you don't have to win the domestic league. This has been proven by several clubs as you mentioned. Indeed, winning the domestic league will be a factor in proving their consistency in every match.

Of course, winning or leading domestic league is surely not the requirement to win UCL trophy. Even if winning or leading the domestic league indicates the strength of a club, they can perform differently in UCL. On the other hand, even though a club doesn't perform very consistent in the domestic league, it is possible that they play consistently in UCL matches. 

[asriloni]

And I think even the arsenal fans themselves know this because they have an outstanding issue that have been faced with them for time now and they can't seem to really get their finger wrapped around the issue which is the torment that Manchester city has given to them in terms of always snatching the premier league from them even with their very best effort and this is one of the major reason many feel they are not yet upto standard of winning the UCL.

A team can win the champions league without winning their domestic leagues, Liverpool has done this before and Real Madrid the biggest winners of the championship league have lost their domestic league but won the champions league many times. Arsenal are capable of winning the champions league if they are determined and have a good squad depth. Arsenal always start their season very well but they start having issues when the season has gone half as they don't have quality players on the bench that they can use when their starting eleven isn't giving the coach the results he wants. Instead of trying to sign starting players that'll be very expensive, arsenal should hurt for backups.

It's not all the positions in Arsenal are having problems with their bench players. Arsenal still need a minor change in the main squad. This is especially true for the attacking line. This flaw on Arsenal's atk line caused them to struggle to get the trophy last season. Arteta, as Arsenal's coach, he needs to solve all problems.
Focusing only on benched players won't guarantee you a trophy. Arsenal did well last season in EPL. But, their mentality was weak when they competed in the UCL.

Arteta must also be concerned about their mentality. And again, it's not all starting players are forcing you to pay expensive prices for them. The quality of the player is directly related to how big their price is. And i think there's nothing wrong with recruiting a new player to play as starting line up. 
It's very obvious that Arsenal need new attackers. This is why Arteta must split his focus. It will help his team rebuild its quality.

[klidex]

To be able to win the Champions League trophy is not an easy job, let alone Arsenal, even PSG are still unable to do it. We realize that every team has the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, including Arsenal, but it is better for them to focus on the Premier League first. In my opinion, Arsenal will have the opportunity to compete with the Champions League favorites in the future, once they are truly able to conquer the Premier League. Arsenal has shown signs of success, Arteta needs to maintain his squad performance so that it does not decline, and start next season more impressively.

So Arsenal are not capable enough to win the Champions League trophy and should focus more on the premier league? I don’t think so and if they do that they’re undermining their strength as a team. They should try and be at their best when participating in the two competitions so that they get use to it from now. If they don’t play and come out as their best in both competitions, how can they win more than one trophy in a season talk more of winning treble. I have a thing that Arsenal will win a trophy next season if they keep up with their performance or rather improve their performance, but I’m not certain which of the trophy they’ll get to win in the next season.

Actually, Arsenal has the ability to win the Champions League title, it's just that the competition is very difficult, especially since Arsenal has to face Real Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, etc.
Meanwhile, Arsenal failed to win the Premier League title for 2 seasons and they were also eliminated in the Champions League before reaching the final. Arsenal always do their best in these 2 important competitions but cannot maintain everything at the same time if they work too hard in the end they fail to win one of the titles like last season where they focused on 2 competitions in the end they couldn't balance their performance and ultimately failed in the EPL and UCL. I agree with what @imamusna said, it would be better for Arsenal to focus on conquering the Premier League, if they feel their abilities are stronger, they can focus on 2 competitions, like Man City, who have conquered the Premier League many times, finally they are strong candidates in the UCL.

[Solokan]

To be able to win the Champions League trophy is not an easy job, let alone Arsenal, even PSG are still unable to do it. We realize that every team has the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, including Arsenal, but it is better for them to focus on the Premier League first. In my opinion, Arsenal will have the opportunity to compete with the Champions League favorites in the future, once they are truly able to conquer the Premier League. Arsenal has shown signs of success, Arteta needs to maintain his squad performance so that it does not decline, and start next season more impressively.

I agree with you. It is true that winning the Champions League title is certainly not an easy thing, but of course all teams want to win lots of trophies, such as in the Domestic League and Champions League, as Real Madrid did in the season that just ended.

It's true that Arsenal's performance so far has been good, but it's a shame they always fail to become EPL champions and only produce runners up, but I'm sure it would be better if Arsenal won lots of titles in the next season. But of course, even though they are focused on becoming Premier League champions, there is no problem, but of course in my opinion it is better for Arsenal to focus on the domestic league and Champions League. because this will certainly make Arsenal fans proud because Arsenal managed to win many awards, but we'll see what Arteta does whether he will be able to make Arsenal successful in winning titles in the UCL and EPL or not.

I personally also think that there is no doubt about Arsenal's strength and Arsenal's performances are always impressive and we'll see whether Arteta will be able to bring Arsenal to EPL and UCL championships or not, but I'm sure Arteta will practice optimally so that Arsenal will be even better. in terms of performance.

[OcTradism]

Actually, Arsenal has the ability to win the Champions League title, it's just that the competition is very difficult, especially since Arsenal has to face Real Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, etc.
Meanwhile, Arsenal failed to win the Premier League title for 2 seasons and they were also eliminated in the Champions League before reaching the final.

Arsenal are strong and competitive but not enough to win Champions League. If they failed to win Premier League, it would be harder for them to win Champions League. It is still possible but if they win Premier League title first, their players will have more confidence, stronger mentality to fight in Champions League. It is not mandatory to win Premier League as a prerequisite to win Champions League but winning Champions League when don't have experience as champion in Premier League, is very small.

Which PSG coach are you referring to?
Mauricio Pochettino, Thomas Tuchel, Unai Emery, Laurent Blanc, and Carlo Ancelotti are few former coaches of PSG. None of them are bad coaches, even Ancelotti is the most successful coach in football history, especially in UCL. I think PSG is just unlucky that they always failed to win UCL.

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/paris-saint-germain/9/

Well, Luis Enrique is the coach of PSG now. He is also a great coach, but not sure if he is able to lead PSG winning UCL trophy. FYI, he also ever won UCL trophy with Barcelona.

They are great coach but only Ancelotti had experience of winning Champions League before joining PSG. None of Pochettino, Tuchel, Emery, Blanc won Champions League, except Tuchet with 1 Champions League title after leaving PSG to join Chelsea.

This detail is not to prove these coaches are not good enough and failure of PSG comes from their board members that gave too many power to star players. Players also failed to show their values to help PSG winning Champions League. Many imperfection in PSG system and problems are not only from their coaches.