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July 24, 2024, 02:47:25 PM
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Playing against Lugano in the Champions League qualifiers was Mourinho first match at Fenerbahce, and even  though Fenerbahce managed to win with a score of 3-4, I think maybe there is still a lot that needs to be improved. Of course, regarding their defense because it still seems quite weak because after all, Fenerbahce also conceded first with a quick goal in the first  half.
There is enough time for Mourinho to improve the club and a first official match is never easy especially in this summer, Euro 2024 takes many players out of their club in pre season training sessions. It can impact works Mourinho can do with his players and with all players available for next weeks and in the next season, Mourinho will have better chances to work with his players and help them to improve in defense.

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But I think just maximizing the attack line to score lots of goals is also not enough for the team to win trophies. Therefore, Mourinho will certainly make changes to make Fenerbahce stronger in defense and attack. Thus, Fenerbahce will have a chance to win a trophy in the domestic league, but not in the Champions League.
It is like a personal show from Edin Dzeko and it's hard to judge on attacking system and power of Fenerbahce after only one match, just like we can not assess their defense system after a single match.

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July 24, 2024, 02:53:21 PM
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Yesterday's Champions League matches were won by the favorites. We can say that it was not a surprise result. Karabakh managed to defeat their opponents 2-0 away and took an important advantage for the round. Malmö also played a dominant game and won 4-1 at home, giving them a big advantage in the round.
FCSB vs Tel Aviv is perhaps one of the strongest matchups of this round. The next match will decide the round.

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July 24, 2024, 04:16:35 PM
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But I think just maximizing the attack line to score lots of goals is also not enough for the team to win trophies. Therefore, Mourinho will certainly make changes to make Fenerbahce stronger in defense and attack. Thus, Fenerbahce will have a chance to win a trophy in the domestic league, but not in the Champions League.
It is like a personal show from Edin Dzeko and it's hard to judge on attacking system and power of Fenerbahce after only one match, just like we can not assess their defense system after a single match.
The problem seems to be more difficult than expected because in the end if you look at the attack pattern carried out by Fenerbahce in yesterday's match, although they managed to score 4 goals in the match but I saw that they were too cautious.

It can be seen that Mou's attack pattern does not seem to be too loose where he is a little confused whether to do an offensive or defensive scheme that makes Fenerbahce a little confused even though they scored 4 goals.

Their midfield is also a little fragile in the duel in midfield which makes Fenerbahce a little more difficult in securing possession even though if in the end Mou can be more courageous to make a better attack pattern I think it can be a good advantage for them. But it looks like Mou is still sticking with his monotonous scheme where he doesn't really see the development of more modern football and prefers conservative schemes as their strength just like he did at several clubs he had coached before.

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July 24, 2024, 04:22:13 PM
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Fenerbache appointed José Mourinho who’s genius interns of managing elite clubs towards their way to glory. He is now in charge and we will definitely see the brilliant style of play he will implements for his new team. Fenerbache is categorized to be among the top clubs and will hits harder when it comes to matches.
I see this is an intense match. Fenerbahce managed to win the match but the two teams played quite evenly. I don't see a situation where Fenerbahce can dominate Lugano. But a win is still a win. I can't yet judge whether Mourinho still has the tactical genius he had in his prime. This was his first official match. And as a coach, Mou has to buy several players who can play the tactics that will be used when the competition starts. Fenerbahce is one of the best teams in Europe. I have expectations that Mourinho will give Fenerbahce good achievements in the UCL this season.

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July 24, 2024, 04:25:25 PM
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Fenerbahce played a different game in the second half to beat their opponent away from home and take the psychological advantage of the round. We've seen some players that you have to question how they really find a place in the team. Names like Kent, Krunic and Mert Hakan should not be in the team. Livakovic, on the other hand, has become a player who is constantly going backwards in terms of form. He shouldn't concede those goals even in the simplest of places. İrfan Can Eğribayat has the potential to take the jersey from him. He just needs to be given a chance.
Fenerbahce's second-half comeback was stunning. It demonstrates their heart and grit. Kent, Krunic, or Mert Hakan, specifically? That doesnt build a winning team. Consider the big picture. Coach Mourinho is also an artist. He sees things others miss. He moulds players who may not be as clever as they could be. They become better under his influence.

They conceded early, but thats life. Get up after being knocked down. They fought back, not simply stood up. They ruled. The Mourinho magic. He makes any team win. Please trust the process. Trust Mourinho, he knows his stuff.

No doubt, Livakovic has struggled. Sometimes everyone stumbles. But what distinguishes excellent from great? The way they manage hardship. This is how they recover. This youngster has potential. He's skilled. He just needs some direction and encouragement. Where Mourinho comes in. He'll refocus this youngster. He'll make him famous. The competition and fire from İrfan Can will only improve them both.

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July 24, 2024, 04:52:02 PM
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Fenerbache appointed José Mourinho who’s genius interns of managing elite clubs towards their way to glory. He is now in charge and we will definitely see the brilliant style of play he will implements for his new team. Fenerbache is categorized to be among the top clubs and will hits harder when it comes to matches.
I see this is an intense match. Fenerbahce managed to win the match but the two teams played quite evenly. I don't see a situation where Fenerbahce can dominate Lugano. But a win is still a win. I can't yet judge whether Mourinho still has the tactical genius he had in his prime. This was his first official match. And as a coach, Mou has to buy several players who can play the tactics that will be used when the competition starts. Fenerbahce is one of the best teams in Europe. I have expectations that Mourinho will give Fenerbahce good achievements in the UCL this season.
Fenerbahce were almost beaten by Lugano and fortunately Fenerbahce was able to maintain its defense so as not to concede more goals in the final minutes.
I admit that Fenerbahce can dominate the match but Fenerbahce underestimated Lugano in the second half causing them to lose focus and concede 3 scores.
In Mourinho's first match, this is one of the initial stages of finding out how the club is performing and after this I think Mourinho can find a more appropriate strategy to make the best contribution to his club.

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July 24, 2024, 05:10:20 PM
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Fenerbache appointed José Mourinho who’s genius interns of managing elite clubs towards their way to glory. He is now in charge and we will definitely see the brilliant style of play he will implements for his new team. Fenerbache is categorized to be among the top clubs and will hits harder when it comes to matches.
I see this is an intense match. Fenerbahce managed to win the match but the two teams played quite evenly. I don't see a situation where Fenerbahce can dominate Lugano. But a win is still a win. I can't yet judge whether Mourinho still has the tactical genius he had in his prime. This was his first official match. And as a coach, Mou has to buy several players who can play the tactics that will be used when the competition starts. Fenerbahce is one of the best teams in Europe. I have expectations that Mourinho will give Fenerbahce good achievements in the UCL this season.

Even if the both teams played very well but what matters at the end of a match is who the winner is and for Jose Mourinho first official game since he was contracted to coach Fenerbahce, it was a welcome development by the players. There's one thing about Mourinho, he always tries as much as possible to have a good start and the win against Lugano is just to confirm his capacity as a manager. One thing about these clubs is that they don't care much about making new signings and even when they do it's not always world class players since most professional players feels going to such clubs might make them not too recognized except they are offered huge pay then some of them can consider moving in but most of the European players in top clubs just go on loan and later return to their initial clubs. Even if Mourinho don't succeed to take Fenerbahce far in the Champions League but since he's a very popular European coach he will want to make some attempts to boost the club's performance in the champions league.

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July 24, 2024, 05:24:17 PM
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Fenerbache appointed José Mourinho who’s genius interns of managing elite clubs towards their way to glory. He is now in charge and we will definitely see the brilliant style of play he will implements for his new team. Fenerbache is categorized to be among the top clubs and will hits harder when it comes to matches.
I see this is an intense match. Fenerbahce managed to win the match but the two teams played quite evenly. I don't see a situation where Fenerbahce can dominate Lugano. But a win is still a win. I can't yet judge whether Mourinho still has the tactical genius he had in his prime. This was his first official match. And as a coach, Mou has to buy several players who can play the tactics that will be used when the competition starts. Fenerbahce is one of the best teams in Europe. I have expectations that Mourinho will give Fenerbahce good achievements in the UCL this season.
Fenerbahce were almost beaten by Lugano and fortunately Fenerbahce was able to maintain its defense so as not to concede more goals in the final minutes.
I admit that Fenerbahce can dominate the match but Fenerbahce underestimated Lugano in the second half causing them to lose focus and concede 3 scores.
In Mourinho's first match, this is one of the initial stages of finding out how the club is performing and after this I think Mourinho can find a more appropriate strategy to make the best contribution to his club.
Mourinho managed to win in his first match coaching Fenerbache, as you said Fenerbache was lucky enough to maintain their victory after Lugano tried to catch up with them in that match, but to be honest, I haven't seen many changes that have occurred in Fenerbache current style of play and If you pay attention, it seems that the Fenerbache players have not been able to maximize  from Mourinho style and playing strategy, So far we know Mourinho as a coach who often applies solid defense (parking the bus) when they are ahead, but in fact in this match it was very visible that the defense possessed by Fenerbache is very fragile even though at the end of the match they were able to secure the victory, the first leg may be in accordance with Fenerbache hopes but the second leg will be very difficult even though Fenerbache will play at home.

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Dynamo Kyiv scored a barrage of goals in a dominant 6-2 win over Partizan. Dynamo Kiev will most probably be the team to go through. I don't think they will lose away because they didn't give their opponents many chances in this match.
Ferencvaros also scored a goal-laden victory against a weak opponent. I think it's safe to say that Ferencvaros are through for sure.
Likewise, Midtjylland didn't have too much difficulty in beating their opponents and secured a 3-0 away win.

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July 24, 2024, 05:34:45 PM
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To win the UCL you need a squad that is able to maintain its performance in every match. Arsenal must learn more from the success achieved by Real Madrid and Manchester City if they want to win this most prestigious championship. Arsenal still needs time to compete with Real Madrid or other big clubs, maybe it's true as you said, Arsenal should focus on the EPL first, when they are able to win the title, they can increase their target to the UCL.
What Real Madrid and Manchester City have done will be difficult for Arsenal to imitate. Real Madrid have built a very solid squad over the years and of course they also have a winning mentality in the UCL. Manchester City has good finances so club management can give Guardiola the freedom to choose any player he likes and form a solid squad. Both are the best in the UCL at the moment. Arsenal will take a long time to be able to compete with Madrid or City. But I think the EPL is more realistic. They had good form and the league and only bad luck made them fail to win. This season Arsenal will become even more solid and I hope they can maintain consistency in their game this season.

Manchester City and Real Madrid always give a lot of importance to their domestic league and Champions League but we don't see that in case of Arsenal. Arsenal may take the English Premier League tournament very seriously but they are not too interested in the Champions League tournament. If they had given more importance to the Champions League tournament, their performances in the Champions League would not have been so bad on a regular basis, while in the English Premier League they are rightly second in the points table. Real Madrid and Manchester City are as much expected in the Champions League as we are in Arsenal, so Arsenal should prepare for the Champions League and prepare accordingly. 

Real Madrid will certainly be ahead of the rest of the teams next season with the way the teams have been so far and Manchester City could do well there as well but Arsenal have yet to change their squad so it wouldn't be a surprise if their performance is similar to last season.

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July 24, 2024, 05:44:47 PM
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Playing against Lugano in the Champions League qualifiers was Mourinho first match at Fenerbahce, and even  though Fenerbahce managed to win with a score of 3-4, I think maybe there is still a lot that needs to be improved. Of course, regarding their defense because it still seems quite weak because after all, Fenerbahce also conceded first with a quick goal in the first  half. Althoughindeed, we also realize that Dzeko still has an impressive performance and is still able to make a big contribution to the team even though he is no longer young.

Some players will always add value to any team they play in because of their experience they’ve gathered over the years of their career in football that’s why a senior player is always needed in a team especially the teams that are filled with young talents. Dzeko really did well and that’s exactly what’s expected from him as their most senior player in the squad.

Mourinho still has a lot of time to put this team together and the victory in the champions league qualifiers was a necessary win for them to help them prepare ahead for the main season football in both domestic and champions league games. Mourinho will not disappoint and I’m sure he’ll present a well qualified squad for Fernerbache against next season and all mistakes in this match will be fixed.

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July 24, 2024, 05:52:34 PM
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Yesterday's Champions League matches were won by the favorites. We can say that it was not a surprise result. Karabakh managed to defeat their opponents 2-0 away and took an important advantage for the round. Malmö also played a dominant game and won 4-1 at home, giving them a big advantage in the round.
FCSB vs Tel Aviv is perhaps one of the strongest matchups of this round. The next match will decide the round.

You are perfectly right.

FCSB vs Maccabi is the strongest by far and I would say that FCSB is the better team and should have the first chance to qualify further. I've watched the game last night and I also wanted to go and see the game but I was to tired after work to actually go on the Stadium ( it's just 20 minutes with uber from where I live ). However , if FCSB manage to qualify further I will surely go and watch the game against Sparta Praga.  Cool Grin

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With addition of Youssef En-Nesyri and Allan Saint Maximin (and possibly maybe more) I am sure that Fenerbahçe will be a fairly good squad. The only thing I wonder, how many players can you add/remove from this leg to facing Lille? Are you giving a whole new list, or are you capable of doing just a few? If just one or two, then they may have trouble if they make any new transfers, or at least not a trouble but wouldn't be able to play those players. I know that, because we had the same issue last year, we had Derrick Kohn, but we couldn't register him at the right time, and that caused us to not play with him on our last games, which hurt us awfully a lot. I do hope that Fenerbahce and Galatasaray goes to group stages, I do not think that its fairly often to see two Turkish teams in the UCL group stages, not even sure if it ever happened, but if it did, must be very few rare times.

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July 24, 2024, 06:21:22 PM
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There are a lot of games until Fenerbahce could be in the group stages, and that's not easy. I think 3 teams? If I am mistaken they have to beat three teams to qualify for group stages, I am sure that they can beat Lugano, that doesn't look like a hard opponent.

Next up will be Lille, which is harder of course, and they finished decently at 4th place, and that could potentially mean that Lille could beat Fenerbahce, but this is Mourinho we are talking about, dude is literally the master at tournament style football, it is a wonder that no national team ever got him. If they gave him the Portugal national team, they would have won world cup long ago, they should have done that during Ronaldo prime era, and they could have totally win it.

Fenerbahce could of course lose, there is no guarantee that they will win, but contrary to what others believe, I see Fenerbahce as the favourites against Lille, favourites do not always win, so there is a chance of losing, but more likely result will be a win. Plus they started making some transfers too, they got some striker and they got Maximin too, when you think about how these are not even playing yet, when they do, they will be much better with time.

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Arsenal already have a strong enough foundation for them to continue next season, from season to season they always show improvement and improvement, this is a breath of fresh air for them and then they can achieve something they want. Mikel Arteta has so far been able to carry out his duties well, now it's just a matter of how he can create a squad that is more consistent.
If we reflect on their failures in 2 consecutive seasons, in fact they always have very good momentum. It's just that at the same time they slipped a little, which opened up opportunities for other teams to overtake them, and Manchester City, as their rival at that time, did not miss the opportunity that came to get back above Arsenal.

That's right, I still remember that decisive match where Arsenal did not do well, even against CITY, Arsenal lost to many teams in games that they should not have lost, so this is something that had a lot of influence and it is as you say, City is a team that practically took advantage of everything, the PL is going to get more interesting, and if we start to look at teams like City, Liverpool are not going to give away absolutely anything, they are going to go out to win all the games, I personally hope that Arteta shines with Arsenal and the PL gets much better.




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Edu and Mikel Arteta hold talks with Gabriel Jesus after striker returns ‘fitter than ever’

Gabriel Jesus’ Arsenal future has been up in the air for a few months now.

The Brazilian had a very difficult 2023/24 season. He had multiple injury issues and that pushed him below Kai Havertz in the pecking order.

Jesus started just 21 games in all competitions for Arsenal, and that resulted in a lot of speculation about his future at the club.

Source: https://tbrfootball.com/arsenal-decide-they-will-not-sell-dangerous-player-after-he-returned-fitter-than-ever-for-pre-season/

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July 24, 2024, 07:06:32 PM
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While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille. This is a very serious test for the team and also for Mourinier, who recently seems to have begun to lose his authority a little. If he can take Fenerbahçe to the group stage of the Champions League, this will be a very significant achievement.
Fenerbahce will win against Lugano, Lugano can't even become a champion in Super League, they're nothing compared to Fenerbahce which often become a runner up in tougher league. Lille vs Fenerbahce will be interesting match, I expect Fenerbahce will be favorite since people think having Mourinho will boost their performance.

They have 2 match, I think the first match Lille will win with small margin since the match will start in Decathlon Arena-Stade Pierre-Mauroy aka their home town.
Fenerbahçe football team won the match by 4- 3 goals. Fenerbahçe team did four goals and team won the match as expected. Džeko did three goals in this match and his performance was top of the rank because his body language is of winners and he always play with confidence and he did first goal at penalty and he did second second goal  in the 46 minutes of the match and after that he did third goal at 67 minutes of the match.  We saw back to back goals from Džeko and I didn't see that kind of good player. Lugano football also gave their hundred percent and they did three goals in this match and three kickers were different. A. El Wafi did first goal of the match and he gave a good start to the team but after that Džeko changed tge side of match and  Fenerbahçe team won the match easily by 4-3 ratio.

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Yesterday's Champions League matches were won by the favorites. We can say that it was not a surprise result. Karabakh managed to defeat their opponents 2-0 away and took an important advantage for the round. Malmö also played a dominant game and won 4-1 at home, giving them a big advantage in the round.
FCSB vs Tel Aviv is perhaps one of the strongest matchups of this round. The next match will decide the round.
The games yesterday was really interesting because all the big teams who were favorites actually won and it was on that same note that I was actually encourage to atleast place a bet on the two big teams playing which is the like of paok and ludogoret, although I didn't actually make any forecast on the game because it was obvious that were going to win seeing that they are already playing at home. The bet was just a simple odd doubler as I pick both teams to win.

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July 24, 2024, 07:11:36 PM
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Mourinho managed to win in his first match coaching Fenerbache, as you said Fenerbache was lucky enough to maintain their victory after Lugano tried to catch up with them in that match, but to be honest, I haven't seen many changes that have occurred in Fenerbache current style of play and If you pay attention, it seems that the Fenerbache players have not been able to maximize  from Mourinho style and playing strategy, So far we know Mourinho as a coach who often applies solid defense (parking the bus) when they are ahead, but in fact in this match it was very visible that the defense possessed by Fenerbache is very fragile even though at the end of the match they were able to secure the victory, the first leg may be in accordance with Fenerbache hopes but the second leg will be very difficult even though Fenerbache will play at home.
José Mourinho in turkey and expects quite different dimensions and heighten level with the coach. He have his own style of play and his oppositions are there to ensure he doesn't secure his ambitious run with his new club. Perhaps one of the good thing to happen to Fenerbahçe this season. We know the records been set by José Mourinho in Europe and he's not bending down because he will fight his way through for the purpose to lift major titles for Fenerbahçe.

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July 24, 2024, 08:00:46 PM
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While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille. This is a very serious test for the team and also for Mourinier, who recently seems to have begun to lose his authority a little. If he can take Fenerbahçe to the group stage of the Champions League, this will be a very significant achievement.

Considering that this stage of selection is very murky (consists of two different paths), few fans pay attention to it. It’s unlikely that anyone even knows the pairings in this round of competition except fans of the participating teams.
By the way, the game, judging by the score (3-4 in favor of Fenerbahce), was epic and I think that Fenerbahce decided the issue of advancing to the next round. It seems to me that in the return game they will win with a more comfortable score.

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July 24, 2024, 08:22:29 PM
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Manchester City and Real Madrid always give a lot of importance to their domestic league and Champions League but we don't see that in case of Arsenal. Arsenal may take the English Premier League tournament very seriously but they are not too interested in the Champions League tournament. If they had given more importance to the Champions League tournament, their performances in the Champions League would not have been so bad on a regular basis, while in the English Premier League they are rightly second in the points table.

Arsenal are just beginning to pick form in the premier league as they weren't title contender before but for the last two seasons, they have been the only one chasing Manchester city. I think Arsenal wants to win the premier league first before they start concentrating on the champions league as it would be much easier to win the premier league than to win the championship league. The champions league has alot of heavyweight clubs that arsenal can't comfortably win. There's Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Manchester city and Liverpool is right there above them when it comes to champions league therefore winning the premier league should be their priority first.

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