UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

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With Arsenal and Real Madrid game, everyone is talking about it. But when you think about it, we have Barcelona vs Dortmund and Inter versus Bayern, and also PSG vs Villa games as well.

I see PSG vs Villa game as easiest to bet, because in normal cases PSG should be able to win this one without much issues. Whereas Barcelona vs Dortmund could also become an easy game if Dortmund plays like they do at Bundesliga, we have seen them somehow come thus far at UCL even though they have been terrible at Bundesliga. If that is to happen then Barcelona should be an easy bet also. Hardest one is Inter vs Bayern, two leaders of their leagues, that game is tough, while most suggest Bayern, I am not so sure Inter would be that easy to beat.

All the matches in the quarterfinals are tough matches, nine of the match is exempted because for these teams to qualify to this stage, it means that they have good teamwork and quality squad, which will make eliminating any of these teams to be difficult despite how weak they look.

Dortmund Vs Barcelona will be a tough match also even though Dortmund has not been doing well in the Bundesliga this season, but Barcelona of this season has been incredible, that is why many people think that it will be an easy win for Barcelona since Dortmund is not in good form.

Any other matches apart from this will be a tough game that can’t be easily predicted especially Arsenal Ve Real Madrid, therefore, is a just have to wait and see how the quarterfinal games will go.

[Egii Nna]

PSG will surely arrive in the semifinal, but it is very difficult to say who will pass between PSG and Real Madrid in the final, unfortunately Arsenal permitting, will have to challenge each other. Same fate for Inter, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, Inter will have to eliminate both Bayern and Barcelona, very difficult but not impossible to get to the final

PSG has more chances of winning in quarter finals against Aston villa but Real Madrid has to face Arsenal in quarter finals. Arsenal is out of EPL title contest race and they will be giving there best in UEFA to compensate there fans. Apart from that we have Barcelona also in quarter finals against B. Dortmund, we can't rule out chances of Barcelona in making it to the finals as they are ahead of Madrid in Spanish league. It's difficult to predict at this stage of UEFA that who will make it to finals because of tough competitions in quarter finals.

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

[len01]

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

[Smack That Ace]

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

In these three matches, Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and PSG are the favorites. There is no doubt about it. But let's not forget that this is the Champions League platform. Any unexpected event can happen here. Last season, we saw Dortmund unexpectedly qualify for the final. Even in the PSG vs Liverpool match, we considered Liverpool as the favorite. But PSG performed great and qualified for the quarter-finals.

I am worried about the two matches of Barcelona vs Dortmund and Madrid vs Arsenal. Barcelona is the favorite, no doubt about it. Dortmund's performance this season is very irregular. But this team has the ability to surprise us. On the other hand, Arsenal is a strong team. So it is going to be very difficult for Madrid to win this match.

[Publictalk792]

In these three matches, Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and PSG are the favorites. There is no doubt about it. But let's not forget that this is the Champions League platform. Any unexpected event can happen here. Last season, we saw Dortmund unexpectedly qualify for the final. Even in the PSG vs Liverpool match, we considered Liverpool as the favorite. But PSG performed great and qualified for the quarter-finals.

I am worried about the two matches of Barcelona vs Dortmund and Madrid vs Arsenal. Barcelona is the favorite, no doubt about it. Dortmund's performance this season is very irregular. But this team has the ability to surprise us. On the other hand, Arsenal is a strong team. So it is going to be very difficult for Madrid to win this match.

You are right in upcoming Champions League matches Barcelona and Real Madrid and PSG are top teams. But we should remember that Champions League is known for being unpredictable. What happened last season is good example. Dortmund made it to final unexpectedly and PSG played very well against Liverpool. These surprises remind us that anything can happen. I am also worried about matches between Barcelona and Dortmund and Real Madrid and Arsenal. Barcelona is team most likely to win but Dortmund has played inconsistently this season so they might still cause upset. On the other hand Arsenal is strong team and this will make it hard for Real Madrid to win.

[MusaMohamed]

You are right in upcoming Champions League matches Barcelona and Real Madrid and PSG are top teams. But we should remember that Champions League is known for being unpredictable. What happened last season is good example. Dortmund made it to final unexpectedly and PSG played very well against Liverpool. These surprises remind us that anything can happen. I am also worried about matches between Barcelona and Dortmund and Real Madrid and Arsenal. Barcelona is team most likely to win but Dortmund has played inconsistently this season so they might still cause upset. On the other hand Arsenal is strong team and this will make it hard for Real Madrid to win.

There are matches in quarter finals and also semi finals before Real Madrid can meet Barcelona in Champions League.

Quarter finals:
Real Madrid vs Arsenal
Barcelona vs Dortmund

Semi finals:
Real Madrid vs PSG/ Aston Villa
Barcelona vs Bayern Munich / Inter Milan.

Potentially Real Madrid and Barcelona will meet in UEFA Champions League final match this season but they still have at least 4 more matches before meeting each other.

[Fuso.hp]

PSG will surely arrive in the semifinal, but it is very difficult to say who will pass between PSG and Real Madrid in the final, unfortunately Arsenal permitting, will have to challenge each other. Same fate for Inter, Bayern Munich and Barcelona, Inter will have to eliminate both Bayern and Barcelona, very difficult but not impossible to get to the final

PSG has more chances of winning in quarter finals against Aston villa but Real Madrid has to face Arsenal in quarter finals. Arsenal is out of EPL title contest race and they will be giving there best in UEFA to compensate there fans. Apart from that we have Barcelona also in quarter finals against B. Dortmund, we can't rule out chances of Barcelona in making it to the finals as they are ahead of Madrid in Spanish league. It's difficult to predict at this stage of UEFA that who will make it to finals because of tough competitions in quarter finals.

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

As Arsenal's opponents in the quarter-finals are Real Madrid, we initially assume that Arsenal's journey may end in the quarter-finals. Before the start of the match with Real Madrid, there is no chance to keep Arsenal ahead. Performance on the field, past statistics, head-to-head, Real Madrid is ahead in everything, so I think that if Real Madrid wins the two matches ahead, they will confirm the semi-finals. But you predicted about Barcelona that Barcelona will play the final, I think your prediction will change in this case. Barcelona may be doing well now, but when it comes to important matches, Barcelona cannot perform like that, which is their biggest weakness. If they can overcome this weakness and continue to perform consistently, good things may be in store for them in this Champions League.

[SatoPrincess]

In general, Real Madrid is still able to survive in the UCL because luck is often on their side, including when facing Atletico in the second leg. At first I thought Madrid would be slaughtered after Atletico took the lead in the 1st minute, but after that Atletico were unable to increase their lead even though they always built fast attacks that troubled Madrid's defenders. There is no doubt about the mentality of Real Madrid players, but they still have 4 games left before reaching the final.

In the Champions League, Real Madrid, in addition to luck, also has the support of the referee, because this team often plays as champions, so in some controversial issues they get an advantage, even as it was in the cancelled penalty of Alvarez, in my opinion it is stupid to cancel such a penalty... So in order to beat Real Madrid, you need to be not only stronger than them. You also need to take into account other circumstances that can affect the result and in the case of Real Madrid, it is not only luck.

Real Madrid having support from referees? I don’t know about that. What I know and I am very sure of is the fact that they play better and play confidently when they play in the champions league. If we are still debating about the Atletico penalty shootout I still stand on my opinion there was a double touch and it is in the rule that it should be cancelled so I don’t think it was a false call. To beat Real Madrid in the Champions League you have to be resilient and be fearless as well as stay focused for the whole 90 minutes because any little slip up is opportunity for them to take advantage of.

[Marvelockg]

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

at least 70% of gamblers will make this kind of prediction in the remaining fixtures because that is the kind of result we want to see but in the end, it is not always what we wish to see that ends up happening but what is somehow destined to happen. i would personally love to witness this kind of result because if it happens this way, it will mean that the next phase of the tournament will be more interesting with our favorite team still standing to the end.

a Barca vs Real Madrid final will be one sweet final to look out for especially when you are considering it from many points of view including the fact that Barca has made a mess of Real Madrid in league games, and this will look like a retaliation match. Arsenal is still hopeful that this might just be the year that things turn around for their good and they finally break that York of always going home trophyless but having to deal with these tough teams that are already standing in their way is something that is going to be a nightmare for them even before the day of the game comes.

[Ale88]

In general, Real Madrid is still able to survive in the UCL because luck is often on their side, including when facing Atletico in the second leg. At first I thought Madrid would be slaughtered after Atletico took the lead in the 1st minute, but after that Atletico were unable to increase their lead even though they always built fast attacks that troubled Madrid's defenders. There is no doubt about the mentality of Real Madrid players, but they still have 4 games left before reaching the final.

In the Champions League, Real Madrid, in addition to luck, also has the support of the referee, because this team often plays as champions, so in some controversial issues they get an advantage, even as it was in the cancelled penalty of Alvarez, in my opinion it is stupid to cancel such a penalty... So in order to beat Real Madrid, you need to be not only stronger than them. You also need to take into account other circumstances that can affect the result and in the case of Real Madrid, it is not only luck.

Real Madrid having support from referees? I don’t know about that. What I know and I am very sure of is the fact that they play better and play confidently when they play in the champions league. If we are still debating about the Atletico penalty shootout I still stand on my opinion there was a double touch and it is in the rule that it should be cancelled so I don’t think it was a false call. To beat Real Madrid in the Champions League you have to be resilient and be fearless as well as stay focused for the whole 90 minutes because any little slip up is opportunity for them to take advantage of.

In Europe Real Madrid had help from the referees several times, and they are also very lucky, several times they won matches they didn't deserve to win. Being lucky is part of football, being helped from referees, unfortunately, is part too, and it's not easy for a referee to go against them. Of course they are also very good and have a ton of experience, that's why they really shouln't need extra help.

[Juicyhome]

In Europe Real Madrid had help from the referees several times, and they are also very lucky, several times they won matches they didn't deserve to win. Being lucky is part of football, being helped from referees, unfortunately, is part too, and it's not easy for a referee to go against them. Of course they are also very good and have a ton of experience, that's why they really shouln't need extra help.

There is nothing like that mate, No Referees helped Real Madrid at any point, the var is there for reviews. you are talking with sentiment it seems you are barca fan. when you see a club that is doing well hail them, Real Madrid is the  king of Champions league, they know how to win in champions league, they own this trophy, and when they play you can see how they play like their life depend on it. We see them doing wonders at a die minutes on several occasions with any manipulations. Can you say is Referee that help them to score in a die minutes in several years, or the come back they have repeated season in season out. Its just luck and master, Real Madrid has mastered the games in champions league, no team can so superior like them in years to come.   lets give them the respect they deserve without sentiment.

[Arenga pinnata]

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

Real Madrid is superior in terms of their mentality and experience in the UCL compared to Arsenal. And yes, this can bring Real Madrid closer to winning the match. because at UCL mentality is sometimes very important. And Real Madrid has proven a lot that their mentality does not fall easily. They always fight until the end. In fact, quite often we see Real Madrid succeed in turning things around at the last moment.

I personally would probably also like to see Barcelona in the Final. because it's been quite a long time since Barcelona didn't make it to the final in the UCL. But there is one team that I also hope will reach the final besides Barcelona.

[Frankolala]

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

There is always a home advantage in this stage unlike in the group stage. This makes it very easy for the favorite clubs to strategize properly and take advantage of the matches when playing at home. However, football is full of surprises and we might see something different from your predictions on those three matches. Real Madrid will definitely win Arsenal, it's a sure bet.

[Velvet78]

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

If see any drama in the quarter final matchups, it might be in the Arsenal - Real Madrid one maybe. I don't think Barcelona or PSG will fail at all. I don't think we can call it a drama if Inter get past Bayern Munich either.

But how much chance do Arsenal have?    I don't see it very high. Maybe at Emirates they could do something but I'm still doubtful about a win even there. At Santiago Bernabeu, I believe they wouldn't stand a chance as much as Atletico Madrid earlier.

[Out of mind]

No doubt I have hope for Barcelona to meet up to the final, and I also have hope that PSG will be able to win against Aston Villa in the quarterfinals, but the one I will not go with your prediction is that of Arsenal against Real Madrid, as we all know that Real Madrid is in their best form now, and Arsenal's performance is not that stable, which made me have more hope for Real Madrid winning against Arsenal because not even in performance but in experience, Real Madrid's experience is better than that of Arsenal, so I don’t have much hope for Arsenal meeting up to the semifinals.

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

Yes, we can predict this and these teams are the most likely to win the next match. Yes, something dramatic could happen here, which we have seen before, but the teams you mentioned are definitely strong and favorites to win. It has a very negative impact on every team when a player on one team has to go off the field after getting a red card, and when such an incident happens, many times the strong team loses dramatically. I am not thinking about all the teams right now, but I think maybe Real Madrid will make it to the semi-finals, and I am waiting to see if Madrid even makes it to the final.

[irhact]

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

PSG vs ASTON Vila looks even more predictable than Barcelona Dortmund, last champions league Dortmund was outstanding and that performance isn't one that should be undermined, even recently,  they have not been doing as much in the domestic league like they do in the Champions League now of which I believe they may be placing more priority on the champions league so against Barcelona they are going to give all their best but it's very likely we may have a Spanish finals in tha champions league this season. Arsenal and Madrid I will believe more that Madrid is going to win but may not be thrown into shock if Arsenal does.

[SatoPrincess]

Somehow Arsenal can catch up with Liverpool in the EPL, because now the points gap is 12 and with 9 games left, it seems impossible for Arsenal to displace Liverpool from the top of the standings and win the EPL title this season. So I think chasing the EPL title this season is not Arsenal's main focus for this season, they will let the title be won by Liverpool again.

Actually Arsenal's main focus at the end of this season is how they can get the best results in the champions league, because as we know that the champions league title has always been a big dream for them. Moreover, Arsenal is one of the teams that has never won the title.

At this time Arsenal managed to touch the quarter-finals of the champions league, so their ambition to win the UCL title this season is getting higher, they will give their best when facing Real Madrid both home and away.

Yes it is possible and in football anything can happen but I still believe Liverpool won’t give up the title that easily especially now that they are out of every other competition in the season, now all attention and focus is in the EPL. It is Arsenal I even have major doubt about because they have had chances not only in this season to make a statement but failed  to do so.

[BlackBoss_]

Barcelona vs Dortmund (Barcelona win), Arsenal vs Real Madrid (Madrid win), PSG vs Aston Villa (PSG win).

It looks so easy and like the narrative that should happen. But trust me drama can happen when one of the favorite teams makes a big mistake. And usually the mistake happens when a player from the favorite team loses several players when getting a red card. So for now I don't want to speculate too much but I agree with you that Madrid should reach the final.

The common narrative is Barcelona and PSG will win in quarter finals and go to semi finals but Dortmund can be an interesting underdog like two seasons ago and Aston Villa with their first season in Champions League, will fight with all things they have and potentially can be biggest surprise in this season. It is not realistic to think that they both will win and move to semi finals but maybe one of them can do this, and I see more risk for PSG than for Barcelona to lose in quarter finals.

PSG vs ASTON Vila looks even more predictable than Barcelona Dortmund, last champions league Dortmund was outstanding and that performance isn't one that should be undermined, even recently,  they have not been doing as much in the domestic league like they do in the Champions League now of which I believe they may be placing more priority on the champions league so against Barcelona they are going to give all their best but it's very likely we may have a Spanish finals in tha champions league this season.

PSG is more unpredictable and less consistent than Barcelona so Aston Villa will have better chance of making surprise in quarter finals than Dortmund in their matches with Barcelona. Dortmund are more experienced than Aston Villa in Champions League but with very strong performances of Barcelona throughout this season and recent weeks, I don't see too good opportunity for Dortmund.

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid still have four matches before reaching to the final match, and now it's too early to call for a Spainish final match.

[Zanab247]

In these three matches, Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and PSG are the favorites. There is no doubt about it. But let's not forget that this is the Champions League platform. Any unexpected event can happen here. Last season, we saw Dortmund unexpectedly qualify for the final. Even in the PSG vs Liverpool match, we considered Liverpool as the favorite. But PSG performed great and qualified for the quarter-finals.

I am worried about the two matches of Barcelona vs Dortmund and Madrid vs Arsenal. Barcelona is the favorite, no doubt about it. Dortmund's performance this season is very irregular. But this team has the ability to surprise us. On the other hand, Arsenal is a strong team. So it is going to be very difficult for Madrid to win this match.

You are right in upcoming Champions League matches Barcelona and Real Madrid and PSG are top teams. But we should remember that Champions League is known for being unpredictable. What happened last season is good example. Dortmund made it to final unexpectedly and PSG played very well against Liverpool. These surprises remind us that anything can happen. I am also worried about matches between Barcelona and Dortmund and Real Madrid and Arsenal. Barcelona is team most likely to win but Dortmund has played inconsistently this season so they might still cause upset. On the other hand Arsenal is strong team and this will make it hard for Real Madrid to win.

We have seen their performance in the last UEFA champion league tournament, but this season tournament is a tough one because there are still many strong teams standing in the UEFA champion league final stage. If PSG can drop Liverpool in the second leg, I believe they will still fight with all their tactics to make sure they win to get to final becaus they have strong team to face after the international qualifiers games.

Real Madrid will not escape this stage they are about to play soon and if they escape this stage show that they will be the luck team to lift this UEFA champion league trophy which Arsenal will not allow such mistakes to happen.

[3meek]

In these three matches, Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and PSG are the favorites. There is no doubt about it. But let's not forget that this is the Champions League platform. Any unexpected event can happen here. Last season, we saw Dortmund unexpectedly qualify for the final. Even in the PSG vs Liverpool match, we considered Liverpool as the favorite. But PSG performed great and qualified for the quarter-finals.

I am worried about the two matches of Barcelona vs Dortmund and Madrid vs Arsenal. Barcelona is the favorite, no doubt about it. Dortmund's performance this season is very irregular. But this team has the ability to surprise us. On the other hand, Arsenal is a strong team. So it is going to be very difficult for Madrid to win this match.

You are right in upcoming Champions League matches Barcelona and Real Madrid and PSG are top teams. But we should remember that Champions League is known for being unpredictable. What happened last season is good example. Dortmund made it to final unexpectedly and PSG played very well against Liverpool. These surprises remind us that anything can happen. I am also worried about matches between Barcelona and Dortmund and Real Madrid and Arsenal. Barcelona is team most likely to win but Dortmund has played inconsistently this season so they might still cause upset. On the other hand Arsenal is strong team and this will make it hard for Real Madrid to win.

We have seen their performance in the last UEFA champion league tournament, but this season tournament is a tough one because there are still many strong teams standing in the UEFA champion league final stage. If PSG can drop Liverpool in the second leg, I believe they will still fight with all their tactics to make sure they win to get to final becaus they have strong team to face after the international qualifiers games.

Real Madrid will not escape this stage they are about to play soon and if they escape this stage show that they will be the luck team to lift this UEFA champion league trophy which Arsenal will not allow such mistakes to happen.

Arsenal played really well against PSV, leaving them no chance in the return game, but I think PSV were a miracle to get to 1/8 UCL... Now the real battles among top clubs from different leagues are starting... Madrid is not PSV, Girona, Zagreb or Monaco.... Madrid is a real test for the English... But let's not forget that there are also Bayern and Inter who have a lot of experience in the UCL...