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July 07, 2024, 05:53:30 PM
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If Fenerbahçe focus on the Champions League or other European tournaments more than the Super League, it would be meaningless. They are already being criticized by not being able to win a Super League title for 10 years. Mourinho will be quite under pressure for winning it finally next season. So the league would be their priority.  Smiley

Next season could be even more interesting. Because Beşiktaş are also trying to join Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray duo in the title race. It would be really lovely if we see these 3 teams clashing for the trophy until the end.

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July 07, 2024, 06:59:33 PM
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I think Mourinho will care more about the UEFA Conference League than the Turkish League and will get more successful results in the UEFA Conference League, because the UEFA Conference League has a vision. And there is Galatasaray in the Turkish League. European Cups can be the first target for Mourinho and Fenerbahce. They will start the season with the Champions League qualifiers. But during the season I think they will have an adventure leading to the UEFA Conference League, because the UEFA Conference League is an easier target for them than the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League.

I think they have been slow in terms of transfers. After the name of Mourinho, I expected important stars to join the team one after the other.
In last few years, we are having enough improvement in Fenerbahçe quality even they fail to bring any trophy, but things are looking pretty decent for them with now after having José Mourinho look like they are heading for the new era in this club and Turkish League as well because now first time we are having some good buying which were not happened in past and few clubs are also having transfers which are going to bring some close matches at the top for the title race.

Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe and Besiktas are already having good players and quality which is helping them for having top spots but now as things are taking changes we will have some investment from the other clubs as well for having good players which can make some good improvement in league and competitiveness which is also improvement for having more intention from the fans which want some good matches and fierce atmosphere.
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July 07, 2024, 07:31:46 PM
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If Fenerbahçe focus on the Champions League or other European tournaments more than the Super League, it would be meaningless. They are already being criticized by not being able to win a Super League title for 10 years. Mourinho will be quite under pressure for winning it finally next season. So the league would be their priority.  Smiley

Next season could be even more interesting. Because Beşiktaş are also trying to join Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray duo in the title race. It would be really lovely if we see these 3 teams clashing for the trophy until the end.

Fenerbahçe is a good club but if they should focus on the champions League they will not go far next season, I'm not saying that putting more efforts on the champions league is bad but considering the fact that there are more suitable clubs on the race to win the champions League they would be wasting there efforts because one of the things that even affected Arsenal on there premier League this season was also trying to focus on two different leagues at a time, so I wouldn't advise Fenerbahçe to follow that step next season, however another club I believe will even be more interesting than Beşiktaş is Trabzonspor because they made a great impact this season by qualifying as the third position of the league and I believe that they would be coming fully prepared next season, so considering there previous performance don't you think they have more to offer than Beşiktaş?.

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July 07, 2024, 07:49:20 PM
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If Fenerbahçe focus on the Champions League or other European tournaments more than the Super League, it would be meaningless. They are already being criticized by not being able to win a Super League title for 10 years. Mourinho will be quite under pressure for winning it finally next season. So the league would be their priority.  Smiley

Next season could be even more interesting. Because Beşiktaş are also trying to join Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray duo in the title race. It would be really lovely if we see these 3 teams clashing for the trophy until the end.

If Fenerbahçe cant become champions next season, I think a big crisis awaits them. The same things happen every year, Fenerbahçe is full of hope throughout the season and we think they will be champions. Then they make a mistake and lose the championship.
Fenerbahçe fans are now very disturbed by this situation. It's really frustrating that such a good team can't become champions.
Winning the Turkish Super League may be much more valuable to them than European success Cheesy

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July 08, 2024, 01:46:15 PM
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I think Mourinho will care more about the UEFA Conference League than the Turkish League and will get more successful results in the UEFA Conference League, because the UEFA Conference League has a vision. And there is Galatasaray in the Turkish League. European Cups can be the first target for Mourinho and Fenerbahce. They will start the season with the Champions League qualifiers. But during the season I think they will have an adventure leading to the UEFA Conference League, because the UEFA Conference League is an easier target for them than the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League.

I don't think Fenerbahçe are thinking about the European Cups, they will focus on winning the Turkish Super League because it's been a long time. Despite spending so much money, playing with so many big stars, collecting so many points, they are not champions. This year they brought Mourinho to put a stop to it. They don't care much about the European cups. Anyway, if Fenerbahçe fails to become champion in the local league this season, Ali Koç won't be able to sit in that seat for much longer. This season is their last chance.

I think they will focus on the European Cups. Of course they will also want to win the Turkish League. But this season they will build a team from scratch. Mourinho will need time to instill his tactics into this team. The new signings will have adaptation problems. They will face many problems. On the other hand, Galatasaray will start the season with a settled squad. The league race will be more difficult for Fenerbahçe than last season. That's why I think they will prioritize the European Cups. Also, Mourinho's tactics are more suitable for the cup format. With tight defense they can beat any team in the cup. But they can't win the league with tight defense.

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July 08, 2024, 05:36:26 PM
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If Fenerbahçe focus on the Champions League or other European tournaments more than the Super League, it would be meaningless. They are already being criticized by not being able to win a Super League title for 10 years. Mourinho will be quite under pressure for winning it finally next season. So the league would be their priority.  Smiley

Next season could be even more interesting. Because Beşiktaş are also trying to join Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray duo in the title race. It would be really lovely if we see these 3 teams clashing for the trophy until the end.
Fenerbahçe clearly wants Mourinho to win the Super League Cup, which has not been won for a long time. Mourinho is a very experienced name, I see it as highly likely that he can achieve this. Any success can be achieved in Europe, of course, they had a very good squad last season.

Fenerbahçe will be renewed with a few reinforcements and a good Mourinho. Clubs such as Galatasaray and Beşiktaş will also show themselves in this race by spending well. Let's see, as some pieces move at the beginning of the season, it will become clear where the cup will go during the season.

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July 08, 2024, 05:58:42 PM
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Cenk Tosun, whose contract with Beşiktaş has expired, has signaled that he will consider offers from other teams, but a deal similar to the contract renewed by Salih Uçan could also be agreed. At the moment, Beşiktaş has no intention of letting him go because there are not many options both as a Turkish and as a center forward. Although Cenk is not a direct starter, he is a quality player who can find a place in the rotation. I think it's necessary to agree on a suitable salary and keep him in the team.

Armand Lauriente is on the agenda for the left wing. With 5 goals and 4 assists in 37 games for Sassuolo, I think he is unnecessary for Beşiktaş. The player who will play on the left wing of Beşiktaş should contribute at least 10 goals and as many assists. Otherwise it's impossible to be champion. Look at the years when we were champions, players like Larin, Cenk Tosun and Babel always contributed to the score from the left wing.

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July 08, 2024, 09:47:41 PM
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Cenk Tosun, whose contract with Beşiktaş has expired, has signaled that he will consider offers from other teams, but a deal similar to the contract renewed by Salih Uçan could also be agreed. At the moment, Beşiktaş has no intention of letting him go because there are not many options both as a Turkish and as a center forward. Although Cenk is not a direct starter, he is a quality player who can find a place in the rotation. I think it's necessary to agree on a suitable salary and keep him in the team.

Armand Lauriente is on the agenda for the left wing. With 5 goals and 4 assists in 37 games for Sassuolo, I think he is unnecessary for Beşiktaş. The player who will play on the left wing of Beşiktaş should contribute at least 10 goals and as many assists. Otherwise it's impossible to be champion. Look at the years when we were champions, players like Larin, Cenk Tosun and Babel always contributed to the score from the left wing.

I absolutely have the same idea with you about Cenk Tosun. I have heard that his name is called with Fenerbahçe as well. Cenk Tosun could be a quite good transfer to be a backup forward player for Fenerbahçe which have just lost Batshuayi. It has been on Fenerbahçe's agenda that Dzeko could leave Fenerbahçe. When we think about this age I think it would be good to see him leaving. Because we know Mourinho wants a more dynamic main forward player.

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July 10, 2024, 08:08:35 PM
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Because we know Mourinho wants a more dynamic main forward player.

talking about striker and mourinho, fenerbahce reached an agreement with Al Ahli for Al Ahli player Allan Saint-Maximin to be loaned to fenerbahce, he played 30 games in the Saudi league and only managed to score 4 goals, I don't know why mourinho is interested in himself even though he has such low performance, today fenerbahce played another friendly game and lost, it was a game in which fenerbahce failed to score a goal and conceded 1 goal, the opponent was not weak and from what i could see the Mourinho once again played with another formation, I think he is testing which formation suits Fenerbahce and what characteristics of players he needs for the ideal formation he wants to create. here is the news about Allan Saint-Maximin's loan


Fenerbahçe agree deal to sign Allan Saint-Maximin on loan from Al Ahli, here we go!

Deal in place for one season loan with salary to be reduced, verbal agreement in place waiting to check contracts.

José Mourinho wanted ASM and he was able to convince the player



source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1811003000002863405

In 2 weeks Fenerbahce will have an important game, it will be a qualifying game for the European Champions League and it will be against Lugano who finished in second place in the Swiss league. I think it will be the first big test for Mourinho, losing this qualification will start the season badly for Mourinho. I hope Fenerbahce makes good signings

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The fixtures for the 24/25 Super League season have been announced. Starting on August 9, the Super League will end on June 1, 2025. This season 19 teams will play in the league. There have been some important transfers in the Super League this summer and hopefully we will see a league with a high level of competition and football quality this season. Here are the derby weeks we are curious about in the fixture;

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Week 6: Fenerbahçe v Galatasaray
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July 11, 2024, 04:54:58 PM
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Because we know Mourinho wants a more dynamic main forward player.

talking about striker and mourinho, fenerbahce reached an agreement with Al Ahli for Al Ahli player Allan Saint-Maximin to be loaned to fenerbahce, he played 30 games in the Saudi league and only managed to score 4 goals, I don't know why mourinho is interested in himself even though he has such low performance, today fenerbahce played another friendly game and lost, it was a game in which fenerbahce failed to score a goal and conceded 1 goal, the opponent was not weak and from what i could see the Mourinho once again played with another formation, I think he is testing which formation suits Fenerbahce and what characteristics of players he needs for the ideal formation he wants to create. here is the news about Allan Saint-Maximin's loan
Obviously Mourinho is really using this games to try to test out what works best for Fernerbahce, I believe with Al Ahli Allan Saint-Maximin coming into play there is going to be an improvement in the team as to what is currently in place because Allan Saint-Maximin is indeed a striker with hidden great potential in the play field which I believe that's what mourinho might have seen to be so much interested in bringing him to the club and he definitely suit Mourinho's kind of tactics because of his aggressiveness in the goal post, has played 30 matches scored 6 goals and 9 assists since he joined Al Ahli.

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July 12, 2024, 10:25:24 AM
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In 2 weeks Fenerbahce will have an important game, it will be a qualifying game for the European Champions League and it will be against Lugano who finished in second place in the Swiss league. I think it will be the first big test for Mourinho, losing this qualification will start the season badly for Mourinho. I hope Fenerbahce makes good signings
Yes, the UCL qualifying round is very important for Fenerbahce and in this match they are facing Lugano, one of the strongest teams in the Swiss Super League and of course this is not an easy match or one that Fenerbahce can underestimate.
At least Fenerbahce should be able to take advantage in the second leg because they will be playing at home, for the first leg itself it is an away match for Fenerbahce so being able to get draw is success to increase the chances.
I sure that Fenerbahce will really optimize their performance to be able to get out of the UCL qualifying round.

Mourinho has certainly prepared everything well because being able to bring Fenerbahce through the qualifications is already big thing for him, who in his first season was able to lead Fenerbahce to the UCL competition.
First leg match will still take place in less than 2 weeks and this is time that Mourinho can use in training the Fenerbahce squad so that it can be in condition that allows it later.

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July 12, 2024, 05:18:39 PM
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Fenerbahce haven't made any additions to the main squad. I think all the transfers made so far will be players who will wait on the bench. It is obvious that the team needs a good striker first. They sent Batshuayi away and Cenk Tosun came in as a substitute and rotation player. Now they need to buy a striker to be in the starting 11, but nothing has been finalized yet. There is talk of En nesyri's future but the transfer is currently on hold.

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Fenerbahce haven't made any additions to the main squad. I think all the transfers made so far will be players who will wait on the bench. It is obvious that the team needs a good striker first. They sent Batshuayi away and Cenk Tosun came in as a substitute and rotation player. Now they need to buy a striker to be in the starting 11, but nothing has been finalized yet. There is talk of En nesyri's future but the transfer is currently on hold.
I was thinking that Fenerbahce will be one of the most active clubs in summer transfer window after signing Jose Mourinho as the club manager during end of last season. The Portuguese manager is known for being a serial winner of trophies so his  arrival as Fenerbahce manager might help the club win the Turkish Super Lig that they've been runners-up in the last two seasons. The fact that the club haven't made significant signings so far this summer I think means that Jose Mourinho is happy with the quality of players at the club already. The talk about signing Morocco and Sevilla's striker Youssef En-Nesyri o think are still mere rumors until it's finalized.

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I was thinking that Fenerbahce will be one of the most active clubs in summer transfer window after signing Jose Mourinho as the club manager during end of last season. The Portuguese manager is known for being a serial winner of trophies so his  arrival as Fenerbahce manager might help the club win the Turkish Super Lig that they've been runners-up in the last two seasons. The fact that the club haven't made significant signings so far this summer I think means that Jose Mourinho is happy with the quality of players at the club already. The talk about signing Morocco and Sevilla's striker Youssef En-Nesyri o think are still mere rumors until it's finalized.



In the last clubs where he was a coach, he was not given such large transfer opportunities as he had previously at Chelsea or Manchester United, where he had huge transfer budgets available to him. I have no doubt that he would also like to get such an opportunity in Fenerbahce, but unfortunately Fenerbahce is far from the richest club, so the opportunities will not be that great. He is trying to attract several players now, but you are right, for now it all remains at the level of rumors. It is difficult to say whether he will be able to lead Fenerbahce to the championship, with Roma, his results were not very good in Serie A, but he achieved success in the Conference League and Europa League.

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July 12, 2024, 06:56:01 PM
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If Fenerbahçe focus on the Champions League or other European tournaments more than the Super League, it would be meaningless. They are already being criticized by not being able to win a Super League title for 10 years. Mourinho will be quite under pressure for winning it finally next season. So the league would be their priority.  Smiley

Next season could be even more interesting. Because Beşiktaş are also trying to join Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray duo in the title race. It would be really lovely if we see these 3 teams clashing for the trophy until the end.
Watching a championship race with three teams really gives us pleasure. What I think now is that Batshuayi was transferred to Galatasaray. Fenerbahçe is about to sign Cenk Tosun from Beşiktaş. There seems to have been an exchange between the players. Icardi is on the agenda with his private life. He and his wife are about to divorce and this will show us whether he will concentrate on football or not.

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July 12, 2024, 07:24:51 PM
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I was thinking that Fenerbahce will be one of the most active clubs in summer transfer window after signing Jose Mourinho as the club manager during end of last season. The Portuguese manager is known for being a serial winner of trophies so his  arrival as Fenerbahce manager might help the club win the Turkish Super Lig that they've been runners-up in the last two seasons. The fact that the club haven't made significant signings so far this summer I think means that Jose Mourinho is happy with the quality of players at the club already. The talk about signing Morocco and Sevilla's striker Youssef En-Nesyri o think are still mere rumors until it's finalized.

Currently, Fenerbache is actually still trying to recruit a new striker who they will plot on the front line later, even though Mourinho has currently become Fenerbache coach, but I don't think this has been able to convince European star players to play for Fenerbache at this time, several players previously it was reported that he was getting closer to joining Fenerbache but this failed to materialize after the players were interested in other clubs, not because the attraction  from of Fenerbache and Mourinho has gone but I think currently the poor quality of the Turkish Super League is still a consideration for many players to play in current turkish league.

Fenerbache had so far recruited Allan Saint Maximin on loan from Al Ahli and Çağlar Söyüncü from Atletico Madrid and Apart from these two players, it seems that Mourinho has not brought in any other players to strengthen their squad, It was previously reported that Raheem Sterling was one of them Mourinho is aiming for a target, but it seems that getting Raheem Sterling is not an easy thing because with his age and current performance, of course there are still many other teams that are better for him to continue his career if he leaves from Chelsea in the future.

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July 12, 2024, 08:41:50 PM
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In 2 weeks Fenerbahce will have an important game, it will be a qualifying game for the European Champions League and it will be against Lugano who finished in second place in the Swiss league. I think it will be the first big test for Mourinho, losing this qualification will start the season badly for Mourinho. I hope Fenerbahce makes good signings
Yes, the UCL qualifying round is very important for Fenerbahce and in this match they are facing Lugano, one of the strongest teams in the Swiss Super League and of course this is not an easy match or one that Fenerbahce can underestimate.
At least Fenerbahce should be able to take advantage in the second leg because they will be playing at home, for the first leg itself it is an away match for Fenerbahce so being able to get draw is success to increase the chances.
I sure that Fenerbahce will really optimize their performance to be able to get out of the UCL qualifying round.

Mourinho has certainly prepared everything well because being able to bring Fenerbahce through the qualifications is already big thing for him, who in his first season was able to lead Fenerbahce to the UCL competition.
First leg match will still take place in less than 2 weeks and this is time that Mourinho can use in training the Fenerbahce squad so that it can be in condition that allows it later.

tomorrow fenerbahce will play against strasbourg in a friendly game, strasbourg is a Ligue1 team that last season was fighting to not be relegated, so we will see how fenerbahce will do against a small Ligue1 team that despite being a Friendly game, it is important that Fenerbahce win to give the players and fans more confidence for the next game, which will be a serious game. In my opinion, Mourinho needs to improve Fenerbahce's attack so they can score more goals, last season Fenerbahce managed to perform well in attack but sometimes had problems in defense, which caused the team to lose points precisely at moments when they were close to or above Galatasaray and this has always made Galatasaray, which is consistent, win the league

It will be difficult to win the league if they can't have other good players in attack, defense and midfield, and if Mourinho fails to win the title I think the criticism has started to become hell for him and this will make the situation worse of him who is currently not seen as good enough to be hired by the big teams, he needs to achieve great things in Turkey, looking at the bad history that Turkish teams have had in European competitions in the recent times that I have been following football, I see mouriho needing a lot of luck to win the first serious game, both the first and second legs I see fenerbahce with little chance of winning

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July 13, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
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Beşiktaş have signed a 2-year deal with Ciro Immobile. He will have the same contract as Rafa Silva. The two players will earn 6 million Euros per year. These are very high prices in Turkish conditions. Beşiktaş made very good transfers. But I think they may have financial problems.

Of course, it is not right to criticize this already. Because if Beşiktaş become the league champion and these two players play with an average of 10 goals and 10 assists, no one will criticize these transfers. But if Beşiktaş fail to become champion and the performance of these two footballers falls below expectations, everyone will criticize these two transfers first.

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Source: https://www.capology.com/player/ciro-immobile-32924/

This source says Immobile is going to earn 8 million € a year at Beşiktaş? Can this be true? Because as far as I know Capology is one of the reliable sources when it comes to player information.

If it is true it must be some kind of a record in the Super League right? Some sources like Transfermarkt are saying he is going to make 6 million € a year. Even in that case it is a huge amount.  Sad

Beşiktaş can really be regretful for paying this amount to him if he doesn't score so many goals or make a big contribution together with assists. His last season stats look really scary also.

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