🔥 BC.Game ⚽ Cross League Goal Madness ⚽ Discussion Thread

[arallmuus]

12 out of 16 players picked Dortmund and currently its 0-2 against Bochum.

Yep 0-2 in a home game against a team that survived relegation last season and hasnt win a single match this season. Thats terrible and now Bochum will probably defend until full 90 minutes so if we are lucky then Dortmund probably could score 1-2 goals  

The reason I picked them was because they were basically playing against a fodder team, cant believe that this actually happened

Edit : 4 freaking goals from Dortmund !

[famososMuertos]

I think that having a group for the five leagues in the Superbru App is a good alternative to control the results, it is "silly" to lose the prediction of 4 teams by being late to one, the spreadsheet should be the receiver of that information.

Then the best in points of those groups could be the tiebreaker, for the round and also for the final total... anyway, now the rule has been applied correctly to me, so I have given a bonus advantage of at least 10 goals...  


I guess if it happens to Max...  

[Saint-loup]

12 out of 16 players picked Dortmund and currently its 0-2 against Bochum.

Yep 0-2 in a home game against a team that survived relegation last season and hasnt win a single match this season. Thats terrible and now Bochum will probably defend until full 90 minutes so if we are lucky then Dortmund probably could score 1-2 goals  

The reason I picked them was because they were basically playing against a fodder team, cant believe that this actually happened

Edit : 4 freaking goals from Dortmund !

And AC Milan just scored 3 goals(from Morata, Pulisic and Theo Hernandez) against Lecce this evening so it's a very nice start for all participants(we are 4 apparently) who have picked Dortmund and ACMilan, 7goals in 2 matches, it's hard to make better.

I think that having a group for the five leagues in the Superbru App is a good alternative to control the results, it is "silly" to lose the prediction of 4 teams by being late to one, the spreadsheet should be the receiver of that information.

Then the best in points of those groups could be the tiebreaker, for the round and also for the final total... anyway, now the rule has been applied correctly to me, so I have given a bonus advantage of at least 10 goals...  


I guess if it happens to Max...  

Which one would be the 5th league? I think almost everyone will miss some rounds before the end of the season because the day and the time of the deadline change every week so, nothing is lost for you up to now.

[KTChampions]

12 out of 16 players picked Dortmund and currently its 0-2 against Bochum.

Yep 0-2 in a home game against a team that survived relegation last season and hasnt win a single match this season. Thats terrible and now Bochum will probably defend until full 90 minutes so if we are lucky then Dortmund probably could score 1-2 goals  

The reason I picked them was because they were basically playing against a fodder team, cant believe that this actually happened

Edit : 4 freaking goals from Dortmund !

If Bayern and Bayer didn't play each other (and other clubs like City/Real didn't have difficult games) then I think few would choose Dortmund. But this round left few options.
It's cool that Dortmund lived up to expectations (although in the context of a competition where everyone gets +4 it doesn't matter), but still, what clowns they are. I'll have to check their game history, maybe I should bet against them when they're leading and on them when they're losing? 

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Well guys, im very sad when i see someone missing the deadline for the round, and this time im double or triple sad because this time it was my friend from localboard famosos, and for worst he was doing phenomenal in this contest being the leader. And this like he said is gonna hurt him in the leaderboard.

I talk with him, and i think similar to him, maybe i need to change this kind of deadline that give you a 0 for the round. But i face several problems by doing that, and i dont find a practical solution.

First of all is the show picks thing, it can give advantage in some late stage of the season to know what pick your oponent. And i want to show it as fast as i can to give more trust to the whole contest.

Im open to ideas, i cant change that for this season because is already started and i already aplied the rule of giving 0 points for missing the round to some players. But for next season i want to apply something more loose and maybe give a -3 point/goal penalty for late submission, or let it be and dont take into account some picks, but this can be also a  problem because you can wait to see if X player play or not and taking and advantage of that.

What do you think? Im open to hear opinions. Seems easy but when you analized is more complicated. Im gonna start to talk with Joker or from my side to explore alternatives for the next season, with forms we are a little limited in some options.



Here is the teams more picked of this round.

[cryptofrka]

What do you think? Im open to hear opinions. Seems easy but when you analized is more complicated. Im gonna start to talk with Joker or from my side to explore alternatives for the next season, with forms we are a little limited in some options.

You have to show answers immediately which is a problem. In early BSFL seasons we hid the answers of the opponent from players that did not submit but that cannot be applied here.

Maybe give a 50% penalty to points won?
That way nobody can calculate and see who the remainder of the pack picked?

Example - you are late for the first game. You can still pick 5 teams that play after the time of your submission, but only 50% of the goals they score counts.
The penalty would be a bit less severe that way, and those people would still feel like they are playing for something that week.

[famososMuertos]

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But why penalty? This is not a school, it is an individual competition of goals, and there are rules, the current ones already exist, no way, but in this case and the format that we have, why should we have an added penalty, if the very fact of leaving out a game is already a penalty.

In fact, I mention it again, the same superbrue adds def, when you arrive late, but you can continue doing it in the other games, today we have had a good example in this round of the Premier League, these players arrived late:



Pool Round 6/2024

Then you have them entering their scores as appropriate, so if you create a group for these top leagues of the competition, you do not have to depend on third parties, and we can have that late option, and the spreadsheet does not necessarily have to show the results of those who send them before.

^{For those who always respond, send in advance:
Ah!, And for those purists who believe they dominate time and are the kings of planning, no one on this planet is busier than me, nor does anyone know my rights and reasons for not moving in the time of an Excel spreadsheet.}


On the other hand, this weekend, perhaps some teams will play in my favor and we will see results not as bizarre as those of past weekends; so welcome to the 1x1, 0x0 and perhaps some exaggerated 2x0...   

[cryptofrka]

But why penalty? This is not a school, it is an individual competition of goals, and there are rules, the current ones already exist, no way, but in this case and the format that we have, why should we have an added penalty, if the very fact of leaving out a game is already a penalty.

Because it isn't fair otherwise. Superbru is a 3rd party app and you have to play all the games, so there's no edge to gain if you pick late.
You don't see picks from other people before the start of the game.

and the spreadsheet does not necessarily have to show the results of those who send them before.

But it's more fun to see that data - if it is locked, there will be no banter and no interaction in the thread.

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Here's an example how you can play this in your favor if there is no penalty.

With 5 rounds to go, you are 5 points ahead of me. You submit, the deadline is the 1st game which is irrelevant.
Your picks are shown, I see them, I submit late and take 4 of your teams, changing only one. I receive no penalty.

I do that all 5 rounds and the odds of me catching up on you increase.

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Penalties are always a shitty thing. Show me a better way and I'm all up for it, but not if it spoils the fun - example, if picks remain hidden.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Yes indeed im gonna read all your opinions, and see what i can take to improve the contest. As i said it seems easy but when you enter in some deep it becomes more dificult.

And some things now seems silly but when we enter in the late stage it can be used to gain some serious advantage.


About the Superbru idea i dont ended up understanding, because as far as i know i cant made a multileague private pool, and also how i know who picked who?.

Penalties are always a shitty thing. Show me a better way and I'm all up for it, but not if it spoils the fun - example, if picks remain hidden.

I agree, plus the thing of having traffic in the topic is also important, not so much for us but is a must for the sponsors.


Well some teams of top are not so good in this round, Liverpool again not showing so much, and both Bayern cancels between them.

In other news we can say WELCOME CHELSEA!!!!! for the next rounds.

[Trofo]

Penalties are always a shitty thing. Show me a better way and I'm all up for it, but not if it spoils the fun - example, if picks remain hidden.

I agree, plus the thing of having traffic in the topic is also important, not so much for us but is a must for the sponsors.

There is no good way to handle late submissions. Penalties suck but it is even worse without them. We did a lot of thinking and tinkering with penalties in BSFL and there simply isn't a perfect solution. And people will try to use loopholes if you let them, don't kid yourself.

[famososMuertos]

:://:: we are a group of how many...? 16 people, we are players who are here basically by invitation and fun.

I'm not trying to cheat with any of my proposals, I don't know why the subject of cheating has to come to light, or loopholes.











 

[darxiaomi]

What an end of the game of Osasuna-Barcelona, Osasuna making a huge win in his home, and Barcelona scoring "only" two goals, they were pretty close to score a few mores.

Bad round for me, i was expecting City making fun of Newcastle but that was not happening.

[cryptofrka]

:://:: we are a group of how many...? 16 people, we are players who are here basically by invitation and fun.

I'm not trying to cheat with any of my proposals, I don't know why the subject of cheating has to come to light, or loopholes.

Nobody says you are, but somebody might. And considering it's a paying contest the rules must be defined in advance and organizers have to make sure the integrity of the competition is intact.
We're trying to give ideas that reduce the penalty so if you have some, feel free to share. But if darxiaomi wants this to grow, it has to be serious from the start and he should not cater to people who forget but to those that are serious and committed. At least that's what I think.

Next season he might have 35 people here - some of them might be here only because they feel they can exploit the loopholes.

[ajiz138]

In other news we can say WELCOME CHELSEA!!!!! for the next rounds.

Which team will be expelled? Tottenham or the Premier League has 5 teams?
It's crazy that Chelsea is now a great team, Palmer is a valuable asset to the Club.

What an end of the game of Osasuna-Barcelona, Osasuna making a huge win in his home, and Barcelona scoring "only" two goals, they were pretty close to score a few mores.

It's a shame for Barcelona to be mocked by Osasuna, this round I was unlucky to pick the team that scored the fewest goals.

Bad round for me, i was expecting City making fun of Newcastle but that was not happening.

Due to the absence of De Bruyne and Rodri, Manchester City could not score more goals.

[famososMuertos]

Source:superbru.

Here are the results of the BUN, interesting... the two most frequent teams failed but the other 3 teams came out with 10 goals...

:://:: we are a group of how many...? 16 people, we are players who are here basically by invitation and fun.

I'm not trying to cheat with any of my proposals, I don't know why the subject of cheating has to come to light, or loopholes.

Nobody says you are, but somebody might. And considering it's a paying contest the rules must be defined in advance and organizers have to make sure the integrity of the competition is intact.
We're trying to give ideas that reduce the penalty so if you have some, feel free to share. But if darxiaomi wants this to grow, it has to be serious from the start and he should not cater to people who forget but to those that are serious and committed. At least that's what I think.

Next season he might have 35 people here - some of them might be here only because they feel they can exploit the loopholes.

Let's leave the discussion for another season, but I emphasize again, you cannot use pejorative adjectives if you want a high-level discussion, for example, the fact that I did not send a response (not the five) does not indicate that I am not committed and even less serious, as you wrote earlier. Be careful, sometimes a few commas, a few periods, the grammar can sound high-sounding, and that is not the case here with any of the guests at this CLGM, which is where we found ourselves with this topic.

[cryptofrka]

Let's leave the discussion for another season, but I emphasize again, you cannot use pejorative adjectives if you want a high-level discussion, for example, the fact that I did not send a response (not the five) does not indicate that I am not committed and even less serious, as you wrote earlier. Be careful, sometimes a few commas, a few periods, the grammar can sound high-sounding, and that is not the case here with any of the guests at this CLGM, which is where we found ourselves with this topic.

I had no intention of offending anyone, there's no reason to feel called out or targeted in any way. The goal here is to give our views for the betterment of the competition.
In the end it will be the decision of the organizer, I will play and have fun regardless.

I was just sharing an opinion based on experience - if you give people a chance to take advantage of unclear rules, they will eventually do that. You know it.
So let's put our heads together and find a solution that does not penalize heavily those that are late, but crucially, a solution in which there's absolutely no way to get an advantage for being late.

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Seems like another good round for me, maybe even a freebet?

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Well guys another round has gone, and we have the winners, cryptofrka vd309 and saint loup have the same points (17), but for tiebreak the winners of the freebets for this round are cryptofrka and vd309.

We had 41 goals in total and they were more close to that number.

Please re-check as allways.

Seems like another good round for me, maybe even a freebet?

Yes you win a freebet.


Very low goals in some matches, and we ended up our first pot of teams, now the mayority of the teams remains but we have to say welcome to......

- CHELSEA
- NAPOLI
- EINTRACH FRANKFURT

And in Spanish league we have to wait until tomorrow.

Goodbye Girona.

[cryptofrka]

Chelsea might be fun to try on occasions - they are playing really offensively this season.

Napoli isn't nowhere near the team that they were a few seasons ago so I won't be touching them and Eintracht will surely be skipped too.
I do like the changes to the teams though, brings a bit of freshness every couple of weeks.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Well the last newcomer is.....

VILLARREAL from LALIGA in replace of Girona.


Premier League changes:

IN: CHELSEA (15 goals until now) OUT: TOTENHAM (12 goals until now).

LaLiga:

IN: Villarreal (17 GOALS!!!) OUT : Girona (9 goals).

Seria A:

In: NAPOLI (11 goals) OUT: BOLOGNA ( 7 goals)

In: TORINO ( 10 goals) Out: Atalanta ( 11 goals)

Bundesliga:

In: E.Frankfurt(11 goals) Out: Sttutgart (14 goals).


Who is gonna have the balls, to pick Torino in this next five rounds? 

Chelsea might be fun to try on occasions - they are playing really offensively this season.

Napoli isn't nowhere near the team that they were a few seasons ago so I won't be touching them and Eintracht will surely be skipped too.
I do like the changes to the teams though, brings a bit of freshness every couple of weeks.

Napoli started not so well (despite they are in first position) but they are starting to gaining pace.

[darxiaomi]

ROUND 6 IS HERE


WEEK FROM FRIDAY 04/10 to 07/10 [DEADLINE: START OF NAPOLI GAME ON FRIDAY 04/10]

TAKE CARE GUYS GAME OF NAPOLI IS VERY EARLY ON FRIDAY!!!!!

Code:

Trofo
cryptofrka
KTChampions
famososmuertos
vd309
LTU_btc
buwaytress
elche
iv4n
jayce
ajiz138
darxiaomi
Saint-loup
arallmuus
omikifuse

After this round we have international break.