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September 01, 2024, 11:37:16 PM
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It's true that you need to find value in the odds before making a bet and it's not just about knowing which team has better chances to win.
So really it's also about finding good odds more than anything else because sports can have great upsets, so if you don't pick good odds all the time you'll lose any advantage with any upset that you come across. And trust me in the long run to have some upsets is very common, happens in every match day almost to have at least one.
And the odds usually take that into account.

It's a serious concern and many people don't realize it. You can't win if you don't take the odds into account.

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September 02, 2024, 04:53:38 AM
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It's true that you need to find value in the odds before making a bet and it's not just about knowing which team has better chances to win.
So really it's also about finding good odds more than anything else because sports can have great upsets, so if you don't pick good odds all the time you'll lose any advantage with any upset that you come across. And trust me in the long run to have some upsets is very common, happens in every match day almost to have at least one.
And the odds usually take that into account.

It's a serious concern and many people don't realize it. You can't win if you don't take the odds into account.
All of that is the truth that every gambler should be able to do if they want to get good chance and really close to victory.
It just shame that now many gamblers with the mindset can't consider anything to be able to get an increase in the chances of success, they bet only on their favorite team and that too without any basis for analyzing the match in detail.
We also find many gamblers who bet carelessly and they only choose based on the odds according to what the bookie gives, mistakes like this are not only made by beginners but also by some old gamblers who don't want to see and learn how the match will take place later.

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September 02, 2024, 09:24:40 AM
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Personally I don't stake or gamble on matches that I don't know properly, so what is means to find value here is that we should go into leagues or matches we know nothing about jist because we find it tempting and it could profit more of yield enough wins which is even not guaranteed.
On any leagues, you can check some information online about the league and clubs in the league which can make you know the position of clubs on the league table, to also know the matches they won and lost, to also know how the last 5 matches are, to also know the head-to-head of the club the club is playing with and to also know other important things you should know before betting on a match. You do not need to be following certain league before you can make some findings to know if you should bet on some matches on the league.

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September 02, 2024, 09:41:55 AM
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Personally I don't stake or gamble on matches that I don't know properly, so what is means to find value here is that we should go into leagues or matches we know nothing about jist because we find it tempting and it could profit more of yield enough wins which is even not guaranteed.
On any leagues, you can check some information online about the league and clubs in the league which can make you know the position of clubs on the league table, to also know the matches they won and lost, to also know how the last 5 matches are, to also know the head-to-head of the club the club is playing with and to also know other important things you should know before betting on a match. You do not need to be following certain league before you can make some findings to know if you should bet on some matches on the league.

Great tips! Analysis is key, and without it, there is no point in going guns-blazing style.
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September 02, 2024, 10:00:25 AM
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I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
In matches especially betting to double my money I will careful choose them like picked out those games I think could give me possible winning it must not be bulky games at least 2-5 games multiplier is okay for me provided it would run for long and continue winning is okay for me and I must not bet on club which I think wouldn't give me what I wanted.

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September 02, 2024, 12:26:01 PM
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With most of my bets, I've got only a few of them that I haven't found any value. Like it was a random thought and just went straight away for those matches. I'm not the type of gambler that bets on something that I don't know but you know that we've got all of our crazy times[...]
sometimes, it's always worth the try... I've also confirmed few cases where a gambler wagers on games from Scottish premiership and it cuts. You could be lucky with games like that - especially during pre-season or breaks.
Yeah, definitely it's worth to try when the odds are so great that I can't ignore that even if I know that the match is likely going to lose me money. That's fine on my end and that's part of gambling and that's why it's very interesting yet risky when you're doing the same thing. It's not advisable when someone does this and they don't have enough money to cover their losses. Those that does this are the ones that don't have a problem if their bets loss. What matters here is you know the sports that you are betting and you're enjoying the game each seconds that you're going to tune in.

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September 02, 2024, 02:15:57 PM
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If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?

It's a common thing for me, when it comes to sport be I try my best to look at the fixtures for the week and all available match. This way I'm able to make plans based on the teams strengths, players, and past wins before placing any bet. The best way to do this is to have a table of the team you know have higher chances of winning. Then set a reminder to it once the day of the match is come, you recheck for the available advantages they have over their opposing team them place your bets.

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September 02, 2024, 02:31:47 PM
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If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?

It's a common thing for me, when it comes to sport be I try my best to look at the fixtures for the week and all available match. This way I'm able to make plans based on the teams strengths, players, and past wins before placing any bet. The best way to do this is to have a table of the team you know have higher chances of winning. Then set a reminder to it once the day of the match is come, you recheck for the available advantages they have over their opposing team them place your bets.

This requires discipline and focus because you only choose to bet on the teams you like and have already analyzed well. I think this way, but sometimes I lose focus, especially when I’m down. You know, you pick the best game for yourself, you think you’ve done your research well, and you expect to win, but the outcome isn’t what you expected. So, you start thinking about chasing your losses and end up betting on any available games.

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September 02, 2024, 02:36:50 PM
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I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
If i understood correctly what you mean, i assume that you mean finding matches where bookies that have calculated odds wrong, or differently then you.

Aren't those pretty rare to find? Also you would need to know more about the game / teams then bookie does, and that's their literal job: to know about them. They have algorithms sorting the data in real time and top of that experts evaluating the probabilities.

Imho you are going to need luck to to find them. And honestly, i don't think which would give better outcome, finding one and betting on it, or betting on random, because it's not like bookies are right all the time and wrong team can win, even if that other team had better odds in your view.

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September 02, 2024, 03:39:00 PM
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Imho you are going to need luck to to find them. And honestly, i don't think which would give better outcome, finding one and betting on it, or betting on random, because it's not like bookies are right all the time and wrong team can win, even if that other team had better odds in your view.

No, you don’t rely on luck to find it; you rely on your skills. If you don’t have those skills yet, you can develop them. What separates us from professional gamblers is that they are skilled at developing their abilities. Even with the smallest advantage, they’ll take it, so we need to think that way if we want to be successful in sports betting. Finding value is always the key, and you can do that by analyzing the market, looking for certain matches that are overvalued or undervalued, and then betting on the team you think will win based on the available odds.

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If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
I concur and that is a main reason why we must follow historical performances and live matches of our interested teams while making our picks because it enables possible analytical skills of winning.

Literally not all displayed teams from the bookmakers are favorable for gamblers and that is why there is need to analyze games and play based on experiences.

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I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
Well this is a situation that should be considered from the beginning, friend, because after all, when a site provides bets that have been listed, it does not mean that we have to do everything just because we expect more parlays, the odds are greater.
We do not need to be that aggressive to make a bet because in the end in a gambling especially is a bet on sportsbook certainly requires a study and we can not do all at the same time especially research and foresight and common sense must really be maintained in this case so that we are not too aggressive so that what we do gets results.

In the end, bet accordingly with a few matches that we are sure will be profitable because it would be better to do a little bet with a win than to do a lot of betting but it doesn't get results because we are too aggressive in placing some bets that we don't even do any research there and only based on instinct.

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I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
Well, for me personally, I've always believed that finding value simply means to find and bet only on sports matches where you know within yourself that you have a high chance of winning that game/bet.
Sports betting in not like playing slot where you can't tell what the outcome of your next spin will be, no no, in sports betting, when you see a match coming up, And looking at the team playing that match, you as a person who is very knowledgeable in sports should already know or have an imagery idea of how that match may or will likely end.

So, finding matches where you know you have a very high chances of winning the bet is what I understand finding value to mean.

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Yes, that's right, to waste time on trifles, or to place bets where we know nothing about the teams, is equivalent to hoping only for luck. I will not take risks. However, I am well acquainted with the local teams, and I only support one. Based on this, I know not only all the players but also the level of preparation of the players for this or that game. You can calculate the chances of winning, knowing some facts about the state of the teams, and then there will be more chances than placing blind bets.

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Yes, that's right, to waste time on trifles, or to place bets where we know nothing about the teams, is equivalent to hoping only for luck. I will not take risks. However, I am well acquainted with the local teams, and I only support one. Based on this, I know not only all the players but also the level of preparation of the players for this or that game. You can calculate the chances of winning, knowing some facts about the state of the teams, and then there will be more chances than placing blind bets.
It's not fun to do sports betting if we bet on games or teams that we don't know; it's just pure gambling, which doesn't serve its purpose of entertainment. It's important to have fun and then find a way to win, which is why finding value is crucial when it comes to achieving success in gambling.

Limiting the number of games to bet on might help, but it's still important to ensure that you stick to the right bankroll management and be disciplined in following the percentage you'll stake from the total bankroll. If we're really good, there's no reason we wouldn't succeed in the long run.

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If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?

In sports betting it is different than in poker but there is also some similarity. To find value you have to make assumptions and calculations that combine mathematics and intuition. But while in poker you play against other players, in sports betting you play against the house that is also trying to find value in the odds it gives you.

From what I understand, in the old days it was easier to find value in minor sports and secondary leagues, but over time the bookmakers became aware of this and adjusted the odds better. If you add to this that at least in some countries if they see that you are a winner or they forbid you to continue betting or they limit your bets to very low amounts, we see that it is becoming increasingly difficult to find value.

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Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.
Except: making random bets for all matches without taking into account analytical values, just hoping that luck will be on our side.
This has been done by someone, the results of betting make many people surprised, without the final result being brilliant, but that is something that is rare and has happened, making bets randomly and emotionally with extraordinary results, surrendering to winning and losing, that is a reckless person life and death.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
Find the exact value of the analysis for the club that we want to bet on during the match, be it the score they get or the ranking for the league, The assessment doesn't stop there, the team and players are also the main targets in the assessment, as well as whether the referee's career experience is bad or fair.
Well, that's why most of my sports betting usually only involves two clubs in detailed assessment, nothing more.

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September 04, 2024, 01:08:26 PM
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I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?

I don't know how to find value, but I agree with reasoning mentioned herein.

You can't make a good bets on matches/sports you have no idea of. Stick to matches you are interested in, you have idea of teams, players and importantly you like to passionately keep track of particular sports and that'll automatically result in you making successful bets.
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September 06, 2024, 07:13:29 AM
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This is called a strategy, that is, I mean that it is nothing more than a strategy. Everything else is just elements of strategy. The author wrote that he limits the number of matches he uses for betting. This is reasonable, but it is a well-known element of strategy. When a player starts to do only what he is good at, then he gets an advantage. And this advantage can be converted into profit. Strategy is the main value for a player.

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September 06, 2024, 07:46:27 AM
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Finding value is the most difficult thing. The problem is that the value is not obvious. If the value was obvious, there would be no bookmakers.  For example, a selective betting strategy. With this strategy, the "weight" of each unsuccessful bet is much greater than with the mass betting strategy. Accordingly, such a strategy will either be very advantageous, or it will not last long, since the player will lose if he finds the "wrong value". It turns out that such a strategy is closer to gambling than a mass betting strategy, in which the win-loss ratio may tend to 1/2 with a sufficiently large number of bets.

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