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https://x.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1863728827492340196It's official, we will see the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev next year in February, and we all know that during their first fight, it was a big controversial as Artur Beterbiev def. Dmitry Bivol via majority decision (114-114, 115-113, 116-112). At least personally for me, I saw it as a draw, as Bivol take the early charge but Beterbiev finishes strong. And so there were talks of a rematch and finally we will see it. And not just this fight as the card is pretty much stack up, Daniel Dubois v Joseph Parker; ( We already have a separated thread, [ POLL ] IBF boxing heavyweight title Fight: DUBOIS vs PARKER 22nd February 2025Shakur Stevenson vs Floyd Schofield Carlos Adames vs Hamzah Sheeraz Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Israil Madrimov; Zhilei Zhang vs Agit Kabayel Joshua Buatsi vs Callum Smith What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
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December 05, 2024, 11:24:00 PM |
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Great undercard indeed, but with regards to the rematch, even Beterbiev says that he is not satisfied with his win and so are the fans. And up to know, there are still debate whether Beterbiev actually did enough to win or Bivol with his sheer volume punching should have won the fight. So somewhat the result is a big controversial that's why there is this rematch. And looking at the odds, it's very close just like the last one, but now, it's a flip, Beterbiev is now the slight favorite base on the strength of his win,  So with that, I will go with Beterbiev to win in another close fight.
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December 06, 2024, 12:21:29 AM |
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.
Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes.
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December 06, 2024, 01:41:43 AM |
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There was a lot of debate in their last fight because it was so close so it's only fair that they have a rematch. I think Bivol has the potential to make adjustments now and get his revenge, so I’m leaning towards him winning by decision. He’s younger and faster, as long as he avoids the big punches that Beterbiev will throw early on.
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December 06, 2024, 01:55:20 AM |
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Here are the records/stats of Dmitrii Bivol and Artur Beterbiev. Exciting match! I will really place a bet here and I am more convinced of Artur Beterbiev, the undefeated. But still, I am worried about Dmitrii Bivol as he got more matches and height advantage (extremely small), age also is not that really high gap. 
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December 06, 2024, 02:16:49 AM |
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.
Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes. I won't go as far as to say it was a robbery. It was a close fight. Victory could be given to either of them. Both Beterbiev and Bivol deserved to win. Yeah, it seems Bivol was the one who threw more combinations, but it was Beterbiev who put the pressure all throughout the fight. It was Bivol who was more athletic but it was Beterbiev who was more composed. In a way, Beterbiev looked more the boss than Bivol. But, again, the winner could have been either of them. The rematch would be in favor of Bivol somehow. Beterbiev would be 40 by then. Just like in their first match, many would say age is a huge factor. Beterbiev might prove them wrong once more. This man is terrific. He looks sturdy and solid despite the age.
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December 06, 2024, 02:21:03 AM |
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this rematch is a battle of proof whether bivol can beat beterbiev or not, but from what I've seen, beterbiev can still beat bivol because from the beginning he was also dissatisfied with the results of his fight and it seems that he has prepared better in the next fight how he can beat bivol again. And also even though bivol is younger and his stamina is quite good than beterbiev and gets the favor of many people, but beterbiev has experience which he can use to win the fight later, so I will go with beterbiev even though the chances of winning are not so high.
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December 06, 2024, 02:51:00 AM |
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
I will be betting on Beterbiev in their rematch because I believe Arthur will make some adjustments, such as starting strong, unlike in the first fight where he was slow at the beginning. Although this will be another close match, I foresee the outcome remaining the same.
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December 06, 2024, 04:21:18 AM |
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Last time, the fight was very close, and some people weren’t convinced that Beterbiev deserved the win. It’s great to see that Bivol’s camp didn’t throw any negativity about the result, respect to them for that. And kudos to Beterbiev for agreeing to the rematch. Now, Bivol has a shot at redemption. If he wins this one, we could be looking at the biggest tie-breaker in a trilogy fight.
What’s even better is how quickly they made this rematch happen, no long delays. We’re already set to see it in the first quarter of next year! I also like how the bookies have shown respect to Bivol as even though he lost the first fight, the odds show he’s only a slight underdog.
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December 06, 2024, 05:50:44 AM |
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
In this rematch Beterbiev is the favorite but if you look at the odds given by the bookies, the difference in odd numbers for both is not that big and maybe there will be change in circumstances with victory that can be obtained by Bivol. Learning from the previous fight which stated Beterbiev won by decision and that was his first victory by decision because previously all fights were always won by KO, clearly Bivol is not an easy opponent and if Bivol is more careful and can give surprise then he can have victory even with decision also considering some of Bivol hard punches in the previous meeting were not able to make Beterbiev fall.
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December 06, 2024, 06:34:05 AM |
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In the first fight, Bivol took more damage. As good as he is defensively, he is not capable of avoiding Beterbiev’s power for a full 12 rounds. Beterbiev was able to finish much stronger, while Bivol looked depleted, which makes me believe that Beterbiev is capable of doing more to improve on his performance. Regardless of the outcome, it is going to be another classic battle between these highly skilled competitors.
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December 06, 2024, 08:27:18 AM |
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
In this rematch Beterbiev is the favorite but if you look at the odds given by the bookies, the difference in odd numbers for both is not that big and maybe there will be change in circumstances with victory that can be obtained by Bivol. Learning from the previous fight which stated Beterbiev won by decision and that was his first victory by decision because previously all fights were always won by KO, clearly Bivol is not an easy opponent and if Bivol is more careful and can give surprise then he can have victory even with decision also considering some of Bivol hard punches in the previous meeting were not able to make Beterbiev fall. It's the same as the first fight, initially Beterbiev was the favorite, but when the fight was postponed because of Beterbiev suffering a injury, the odds shift to Bivol. However, we all know that Beterbiev won that fight, although a bit controversial, but a win is win. And HE Turki promised a rematch and this is it. He loves this two fighters that's why there are no problems with the negotiations and it could be that the paycheck could be higher that the first fight. But nevertheless, I still no difference as I go with Beterbiev to win as this guy even at his age is still very strong.
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December 06, 2024, 09:30:44 AM |
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Last time, the fight was very close, and some people weren’t convinced that Beterbiev deserved the win. It’s great to see that Bivol’s camp didn’t throw any negativity about the result, respect to them for that. And kudos to Beterbiev for agreeing to the rematch. Now, Bivol has a shot at redemption. If he wins this one, we could be looking at the biggest tie-breaker in a trilogy fight.
What’s even better is how quickly they made this rematch happen, no long delays. We’re already set to see it in the first quarter of next year! I also like how the bookies have shown respect to Bivol as even though he lost the first fight, the odds show he’s only a slight underdog.
They've shown both respect, both are Russians and so it makes that there are no trash talking after the fight. And during post fight interview, During his post-fight press conference in Saudi Arabia, Beterbiev (21-0, 20 KOs) was not satisfied following the first decision win of his career against Bivol (23-1, 12 KOs).
“He did a good job,” said Beterbiev. “I don't know how he measured his work as good or not, but I'm not a bad boxer. I didn't do bad work. I only did some parts of what I prepared for and not all of the work. I don't why. https://www.boxingscene.com/glass-half-empty-artur-beterbiev-following-dmitry-bivol-win-i-think-im-great-boxer--186429No highway robbery but it was very close, if not of Bivol going in the championship rounds, I think Bivol could have won. But he got the last 3 rounds and that is enough for him to secure a win although his coach also thinks that Bivol could have done better in this fight.
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December 06, 2024, 09:53:28 AM |
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I will bet on Bivol for this match, because he is quite suitable for this fight and so far he has kept his physical condition healthy. Because he is getting experienced enough to punch this time, he has had good performances in past matches. In this match he will be ahead in the first round and will never give a chance to the opposing player in the second round. His style of play and age are completely included in him, Bivol is much stronger and more aggressive than the opposing player so I feel the most happy to bet on him in this match.
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December 07, 2024, 12:10:38 PM |
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.
Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes. I won't go as far as to say it was a robbery. It was a close fight. Victory could be given to either of them. Both Beterbiev and Bivol deserved to win. Yeah, it seems Bivol was the one who threw more combinations, but it was Beterbiev who put the pressure all throughout the fight. It was Bivol who was more athletic but it was Beterbiev who was more composed. In a way, Beterbiev looked more the boss than Bivol. But, again, the winner could have been either of them. That's what I meant, it can go either way, but unfortunately, the judges score it to Beterbiev. Bivol started hot in this fight and I think he did enough to win even if he losses the last 3 rounds to Beterbiev. The rematch would be in favor of Bivol somehow. Beterbiev would be 40 by then. Just like in their first match, many would say age is a huge factor. Beterbiev might prove them wrong once more. This man is terrific. He looks sturdy and solid despite the age.
Odds now favor Beterbiev. But let's see how Bivol will do in the rematch, again his volume in the first 6 rounds as outstanding. Maybe he will just have to sustained it throughout so that he can outscored Beterbiev this time.
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December 07, 2024, 08:36:28 PM |
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
I will be betting on Beterbiev in their rematch because I believe Arthur will make some adjustments, such as starting strong, unlike in the first fight where he was slow at the beginning. Although this will be another close match, I foresee the outcome remaining the same. He is known to be a slow started though in his career, just like Canelo. That's why he might have lost the first 6 rounds to Bivol. And as we have seen that Bivol hands are quick in that first half because he hasn't taken any damage yet. But when Beterbiev started to make the adjustment midway on the fight and touching and hurting Bivol as some point, Bivol punch output has decline. Beterbiev though might start like big or strong and not let Bivol take the usual volume punching here. If he does, then maybe we might see him getting a knockout. But Bivol has a solid chin as well and strong. But it's hard not to see Beterbiev getting a knockout if he just started throwing big bombs in the first couple of rounds and hit it's target and then later soften Bivol and go for the kill.
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December 07, 2024, 11:20:44 PM |
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Madrimov vs Vergil Ortiz could be a separate fight itself as this is going to be a war for sure.
We have seen Madrimov giving Bud Crawford his biggest test at 154 lbs and there are moments that Crawford was hit and I thought that he will go down. On the other hand, Ortiz is also another hard hitting and there are a lot of hype on him before. Although he had to stop because of illness and injuries, but it seems that he was able to get over that hump and back as another boxer that has a potential to be one of the best at 147-154 lbs.
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December 07, 2024, 11:34:15 PM |
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Beterbiev is the leading on this match I guess, this aspiring Bivol should strengthen his defense against Beterbiev because this guys was too tough and powerful. Based on his track record this man was really showing greater advantage, despite of their age gap though Bivol is younger than him that doesn't change the fact that more people and gamblers will pick Beterbiev based on odds.
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December 08, 2024, 12:52:37 AM |
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~snip~
It's the same as the first fight, initially Beterbiev was the favorite, but when the fight was postponed because of Beterbiev suffering a injury, the odds shift to Bivol. However, we all know that Beterbiev won that fight, although a bit controversial, but a win is win. And HE Turki promised a rematch and this is it. He loves this two fighters that's why there are no problems with the negotiations and it could be that the paycheck could be higher that the first fight. But nevertheless, I still no difference as I go with Beterbiev to win as this guy even at his age is still very strong. Yes, winning is winning even though some people don't consider it win because both of them look even, even Bivol seems to be ahead in terms of points but the referee gave decision that was not like the assessment of the fans who watched the fight, maybe in the fight later Bivol can take revenge and really show an absolute victory that everyone recognizes. I tend to try to favor Bivol even though Beterbiev is the favorite who is still considered capable of defeating Bivol, we see how the fight is resolved, what is clear is that Bivol will not repeat the same mistake and he will definitely try to get what should be his.
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December 08, 2024, 01:53:52 AM |
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It's official, we will see the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev next year in February, and we all know that during their first fight, it was a big controversial as Artur Beterbiev def. Dmitry Bivol via majority decision (114-114, 115-113, 116-112). At least personally for me, I saw it as a draw, as Bivol take the early charge but Beterbiev finishes strong. And so there were talks of a rematch and finally we will see it. --- What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
After that controversial win coming from Beterbiev, I guess we already knew that a rematch is indeed needed, and here it is.  Like you, I also saw it as a draw or if there would be a winner, it would be Bivol. The undercard is also stacked up on this fight. We see Dubois defending his belt, Shakur again fighting some unknown guy, Madrimov getting a revenge win after a loss against Crawford, Zhang continuing his streak after winning against Wilder and Smith coming back yet again. On Razed, Bivol had the higher odds. On their first fight, it's the opposite. Maybe the win on Beterbiev is the reason why many are betting on him yet again. I'll go on Bivol on this one, or maybe a draw?  Knockout incoming?  
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