[Boxing]: Bivol vs Beterbiev rematch Feb 22

[coin-investor]

So even in the rematch, there are still fans of Bivol who wanted to see him get's his revenge. So it's really up to him to make the necessary adjustment. I do not think that Beterbiev can knock him out though. Although Beterbiev has the power, Bivol chin is also very good and it shows in the first fight that it holds even if Beterbiev caught him in some instance solid punches in Bivol's chin without any effect.

Its challenging for Bivol to beat Beterbiev, but its more challenging for Beterbiev to knockout or do the next round of winning because he has finally faced a fighter who has a strong chin and can withstand his punches. He needs to adjust his power and phasing because this time the tide could turn around.
I'm hoping for Bivol to win the fight. A trilogy is always good to watch and can be considered an important part of both boxer's legacy.

[Baofeng]

So even in the rematch, there are still fans of Bivol who wanted to see him get's his revenge. So it's really up to him to make the necessary adjustment. I do not think that Beterbiev can knock him out though. Although Beterbiev has the power, Bivol chin is also very good and it shows in the first fight that it holds even if Beterbiev caught him in some instance solid punches in Bivol's chin without any effect.

Its challenging for Bivol to beat Beterbiev, but its more challenging for Beterbiev to knockout or do the next round of winning because he has finally faced a fighter who has a strong chin and can withstand his punches. He needs to adjust his power and phasing because this time the tide could turn around.
I'm hoping for Bivol to win the fight. A trilogy is always good to watch and can be considered an important part of both boxer's legacy.

Yes, and I think that Bivol knows the power of Beterbiev, he might have taken some of the best punch of Beterbiev in the first fight and still standing. And obviously, it's the first time that he hadn't knockout an opponent and lasted the full 12 rounds. It's just a matter of adjusted, more footwork for Bivol and avoid those power punches and him dishing his own. Stamina could be another factors as we have been discussing. Although Bivol has super, he should be durable enough to keep the momentum going into the championship rounds as he lost that to Beterbiev. I do agree that we want Bivol to win the fight so that we will see another one and it could be bigger than the first two and winner becoming the best Lightweight champion of this generation.

[serjent05]

What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

It is hard to tell since both boxers have the ability to turn the tide in one punch or a combination of punches.  I also see the first fight as a draw but well it's the referees' decision and we know that they often see something that the fans/crowd can't see.

I think the one who will win this one is the fighter who wanted it the most.  It all depends on who prepares better.  The scouting and conditioning factor is one of the best weapons of a boxer with almost the same caliber.  Whoever corner comes up with the strategy to limit the opponent would be the winner here except of course if a "lucky punch" comes in.

[Yaunfitda]

What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

It is hard to tell since both boxers have the ability to turn the tide in one punch or a combination of punches.  I also see the first fight as a draw but well it's the referees' decision and we know that they often see something that the fans/crowd can't see.

I think the one who will win this one is the fighter who wanted it the most.  It all depends on who prepares better.  The scouting and conditioning factor is one of the best weapons of a boxer with almost the same caliber.  Whoever corner comes up with the strategy to limit the opponent would be the winner here except of course if a "lucky punch" comes in.

Yeah, it could be the boxer that wanted to win the most so it's all about the heart by putting all their efforts on this fight and make sure that they did their best 110% to get a win. So if it is Bivol then good, we will have to see another fight a trilogy maybe before the end of the year.

If Beterbiev won clearly, then there's no doubt about him the better fighter. Although I'm seeing that this could be very close again and hard to judge who is going to win and so if that is the case then maybe will see another fight. The result should be that there are no controversial or doubt if Beterbiev is the real winner.

[Ziskinberg]

Yeah, it could be the boxer that wanted to win the most so it's all about the heart by putting all their efforts on this fight and make sure that they did their best 110% to get a win. So if it is Bivol then good, we will have to see another fight a trilogy maybe before the end of the year.

That’s probably what most of us want to see, especially since the first fight was so close. It’s the kind of showdown that could settle all doubts and give a definitive result this time.

If Beterbiev won clearly, then there's no doubt about him the better fighter. Although I'm seeing that this could be very close again and hard to judge who is going to win and so if that is the case then maybe will see another fight. The result should be that there are no controversial or doubt if Beterbiev is the real winner.

The only clear way for Beterbiev to win here is by knocking out Bivol. If it goes to the judges’ decision, the rumors about Bivol being cheated will never go away. Beterbiev has to make the right adjustments and stick to his usual game plan. He had a 100% KO rate before, and this is the time to bring back that monster form. Nothing less will settle the debate.

[btc_angela]

Yeah, it could be the boxer that wanted to win the most so it's all about the heart by putting all their efforts on this fight and make sure that they did their best 110% to get a win. So if it is Bivol then good, we will have to see another fight a trilogy maybe before the end of the year.

That’s probably what most of us want to see, especially since the first fight was so close. It’s the kind of showdown that could settle all doubts and give a definitive result this time.

If Beterbiev won clearly, then there's no doubt about him the better fighter. Although I'm seeing that this could be very close again and hard to judge who is going to win and so if that is the case then maybe will see another fight. The result should be that there are no controversial or doubt if Beterbiev is the real winner.

The only clear way for Beterbiev to win here is by knocking out Bivol. If it goes to the judges’ decision, the rumors about Bivol being cheated will never go away. Beterbiev has to make the right adjustments and stick to his usual game plan. He had a 100% KO rate before, and this is the time to bring back that monster form. Nothing less will settle the debate.

Or at least there are no close rounds, and it's clear that either Bivol or Beterbiev winning that. Or just like what you describe, Beterbiev by knockout, or Bivol just like in his performance against Canelo, really overwhelm him with volume punching.

And even if Canelo tries to make a comeback, Bivol will simply up his punching and now allow Canelo to have that kind of momentum. So that is what I want to see Bivol in this fight and not to fade during latter rounds as he gave up this fight to Beterbiev.

[Ziskinberg]

Or at least there are no close rounds, and it's clear that either Bivol or Beterbiev winning that. Or just like what you describe, Beterbiev by knockout, or Bivol just like in his performance against Canelo, really overwhelm him with volume punching.

And even if Canelo tries to make a comeback, Bivol will simply up his punching and now allow Canelo to have that kind of momentum. So that is what I want to see Bivol in this fight and not to fade during latter rounds as he gave up this fight to Beterbiev.

There’s a big difference in punching power here. Bivol is probably just being cautious because one mistake could be the end for him, especially with Beterbiev being a KO artist. That hesitation might have cost him points with the judges, who expect more decisive performances.

Hopefully, Bivol makes some serious adjustments this time. It’s the only way he can stay recognized as a top fighter in the division. And let’s not forget, a win for him sets up a trilogy. (bigger fights, bigger money). At the end of the day, that’s what everyone’s after.

[coin-investor]

There’s a big difference in punching power here. Bivol is probably just being cautious because one mistake could be the end for him, especially with Beterbiev being a KO artist. That hesitation might have cost him points with the judges, who expect more decisive performances.

Hopefully, Bivol makes some serious adjustments this time. It’s the only way he can stay recognized as a top fighter in the division. And let’s not forget, a win for him sets up a trilogy. (bigger fights, bigger money). At the end of the day, that’s what everyone’s after.

He cannot afford to be too cautious this time. its hard to establish your reputation and legacy if you have two successive losses.
He may have to take risks since he is the one who needs the win and is the challenger; he must come to Beterbiev. In a championship fight, the challenger must take the title from the champion; he must be the aggressor and get the approval of the judges. This is a hard task, but I believe Bivol's young legs and Beterbiev is one win away from showing his aging body, and this could be it.

[Kemarit]

There’s a big difference in punching power here. Bivol is probably just being cautious because one mistake could be the end for him, especially with Beterbiev being a KO artist. That hesitation might have cost him points with the judges, who expect more decisive performances.

Hopefully, Bivol makes some serious adjustments this time. It’s the only way he can stay recognized as a top fighter in the division. And let’s not forget, a win for him sets up a trilogy. (bigger fights, bigger money). At the end of the day, that’s what everyone’s after.

He cannot afford to be too cautious this time. its hard to establish your reputation and legacy if you have two successive losses.
He may have to take risks since he is the one who needs the win and is the challenger; he must come to Beterbiev. In a championship fight, the challenger must take the title from the champion; he must be the aggressor and get the approval of the judges. This is a hard task, but I believe Bivol's young legs and Beterbiev is one win away from showing his aging body, and this could be it.

He should really be going all in this fight, it's ok to be cautious, but he needs to show something that will impress the judge. I'm seeing that this fight could go in the distance again. Having said that, he can't just relax in some round and continue to be the aggressor. And took every opportunity to leave a mark, great boxers took the last 10 seconds of every round to be aggressive so that it will have a expression that they are winning it in the judges eye. He had shown it before when he was a huge underdog against Canelo. It's probably Bivol's mindset, he need to shift it to winning the fight otherwise 2 losses will not be good in his reputation and others might questions his legacy.

[noormcs5]

So even in the rematch, there are still fans of Bivol who wanted to see him get's his revenge. So it's really up to him to make the necessary adjustment. I do not think that Beterbiev can knock him out though. Although Beterbiev has the power, Bivol chin is also very good and it shows in the first fight that it holds even if Beterbiev caught him in some instance solid punches in Bivol's chin without any effect.

Its challenging for Bivol to beat Beterbiev, but its more challenging for Beterbiev to knockout or do the next round of winning because he has finally faced a fighter who has a strong chin and can withstand his punches. He needs to adjust his power and phasing because this time the tide could turn around.
I'm hoping for Bivol to win the fight. A trilogy is always good to watch and can be considered an important part of both boxer's legacy.

Artur Beterbiev defeated Dmitry Bivol in their last match by a majority decision. I hope too that Bivol will turn the tables in this rematch. If you follow social media you will find that people are calling this "The Last Crescendo" match. 

Dmitry Bivol being younger in age, would be enthusiastic for this fight. Bivol was the world's sixth best active boxer as of October last year. Everyone is waiting for this fight on February 22nd.

[Baofeng]

Artur Beterbiev defeated Dmitry Bivol in their last match by a majority decision. I hope too that Bivol will turn the tables in this rematch. If you follow social media you will find that people are calling this "The Last Crescendo" match. 

Dmitry Bivol being younger in age, would be enthusiastic for this fight. Bivol was the world's sixth best active boxer as of October last year. Everyone is waiting for this fight on February 22nd.

Beterbiev though proved that age is not a factor in this fight. He is already in his 40's but still has a perfect record and beat the young Bivol.  Although he came from injuries, there could be fans thought that it could affect Beterbiev in this fight as he has to extend the fight and so it makes him inactive while trying to recover from his injuries. But it's not the case as he proved that is still the best light weight boxer in the world.

Even though is streak of winning by KO was stop because he won by decision here, still a good win for him and obviously, the undisputed champion and still unbeatable. That's why we've discussed that Bivol should really make some adjustment in this fight like having a good stamina and a lot of movement so that he won't be a stationary target and getting hit by Beterbiev's power punches.

[Kemarit]

I saw this post from HE Turki himself,



https://www.instagram.com/p/DE5DyMcIsxV/

So the fight is officially called "The Crescendo". I'm still waiting though for the official trailer video of this fight. Remember that the first one was great and I do not think that they can topple it. Then comes the Usyk vs Fury rematch video.

Now let's see what those guys are going to come up with this rematch. Turki really hired the best of the best when it comes to making a trailer video and it seems to be like in a big Hollywood movie.

[Dave1]

^^  I do agree with that trailer on their first fight, it's like a gladiator type of promotions.

Although I see one fight fans promotion here:



And it's true, this is one of the best card we have not seen in boxing for many years. All of them are high profile fights and could even land it's own main card. But that's what HE Turki wanted to see, set up a great fights for the fans of this sports.

[Yaunfitda]

Yeah, it could be the boxer that wanted to win the most so it's all about the heart by putting all their efforts on this fight and make sure that they did their best 110% to get a win. So if it is Bivol then good, we will have to see another fight a trilogy maybe before the end of the year.

That’s probably what most of us want to see, especially since the first fight was so close. It’s the kind of showdown that could settle all doubts and give a definitive result this time.

If Beterbiev won clearly, then there's no doubt about him the better fighter. Although I'm seeing that this could be very close again and hard to judge who is going to win and so if that is the case then maybe will see another fight. The result should be that there are no controversial or doubt if Beterbiev is the real winner.

The only clear way for Beterbiev to win here is by knocking out Bivol. If it goes to the judges’ decision, the rumors about Bivol being cheated will never go away. Beterbiev has to make the right adjustments and stick to his usual game plan. He had a 100% KO rate before, and this is the time to bring back that monster form. Nothing less will settle the debate.

We are already in February and so we are inching closer to this fight already. We have seen Benavidez vs Morrell already, and Benavidez winning and most likely to face the winner of this fight. But I think the community might still be in 50/50 for this fight, very hard to decide as both are great fighters and just like the first fight, it will really be close.
And again, if it goes to the judges scorecard then it's very hard to see who will they favor unless it's really deciding. But if there are again controversies, as I have side, there might be a trilogy so not sure if Benavidez will have to wait or fight again to keep himself busy. The pulse though of the community is that Beterbiev is going to win again by decision, either unanimous or split, it doesn't matter.

[Hirose UK]

~snip~

He cannot afford to be too cautious this time. its hard to establish your reputation and legacy if you have two successive losses.
He may have to take risks since he is the one who needs the win and is the challenger; he must come to Beterbiev. In a championship fight, the challenger must take the title from the champion; he must be the aggressor and get the approval of the judges. This is a hard task, but I believe Bivol's young legs and Beterbiev is one win away from showing his aging body, and this could be it.

Both are equally strong and it seems like more relaxed fight or filled with caution will not happen in this rematch because we know in the previous fight Bivol also almost got the victory and he was the only fighter who was able to survive until the last round was finished, there will be more aggressive fight between them.
Beterbiev will try to defend his undisputed champion title but Bivol is definitely challenger in this rematch trying to return or avenge his defeat, this is big fight and some people even say it could be draw, but I believe Bivol can get what he wants in this fight.

[Maslate]

Both are equally strong and it seems like more relaxed fight or filled with caution will not happen in this rematch because we know in the previous fight Bivol also almost got the victory and he was the only fighter who was able to survive until the last round was finished, there will be more aggressive fight between them.
Beterbiev will try to defend his undisputed champion title but Bivol is definitely challenger in this rematch trying to return or avenge his defeat, this is big fight and some people even say it could be draw, but I believe Bivol can get what he wants in this fight.

The last fight was quite controversial, which is why we’re excited for the rematch. What worries me about Beterbiev is that the last fight went to the judges’ decision, something we’re not used to seeing from him.

I think Bivol will make the necessary adjustments, and if it goes another full 12 rounds, I see him taking the win this time. That would set up a trilogy, which makes things even more exciting.

Can’t wait to see it!

[btc_angela]

~snip~

He cannot afford to be too cautious this time. its hard to establish your reputation and legacy if you have two successive losses.
He may have to take risks since he is the one who needs the win and is the challenger; he must come to Beterbiev. In a championship fight, the challenger must take the title from the champion; he must be the aggressor and get the approval of the judges. This is a hard task, but I believe Bivol's young legs and Beterbiev is one win away from showing his aging body, and this could be it.

Both are equally strong and it seems like more relaxed fight or filled with caution will not happen in this rematch because we know in the previous fight Bivol also almost got the victory and he was the only fighter who was able to survive until the last round was finished, there will be more aggressive fight between them.
Beterbiev will try to defend his undisputed champion title but Bivol is definitely challenger in this rematch trying to return or avenge his defeat, this is big fight and some people even say it could be draw, but I believe Bivol can get what he wants in this fight.

With regards to that, then Bivol should really train hard, it's not enough to last 12 rounds and lose the fight. He almost got it as he might be leading in judges scorecard, but he seems to get soften by Beterbiev's punches that why in the championship rounds, he slowed down.

So this is still a great chance for him to avenge his lost. He just need more head movement and not get caught by Beterbiev's power punches. He has a high guard, but still though, Beterbiev was able to get to that defense. So maybe he will need to tighten up a little bit and not allow Beterbiev's upper cut because it really did damage to him.

[bbc.reporter]

What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

It is hard to tell since both boxers have the ability to turn the tide in one punch or a combination of punches.  I also see the first fight as a draw but well it's the referees' decision and we know that they often see something that the fans/crowd can't see.

I think the one who will win this one is the fighter who wanted it the most.  It all depends on who prepares better.  The scouting and conditioning factor is one of the best weapons of a boxer with almost the same caliber.  Whoever corner comes up with the strategy to limit the opponent would be the winner here except of course if a "lucky punch" comes in.

If turning the tide is the argument then I speculate that the fighter that has more powerful power punches that can turn the tide similar to Deontay Wilder is Beterbiev. These power punches of his also made it appear in their fight before that he was giving more hurtful damage against Bivol. I reckon the ending for this fight and how it will appear for the judges will be very much similar to Beterbiev vs. Bivol 1. Also, if Bivol will only use the same tactic similar to their fight before, he will be a risk to be receiving a knockdown from Beterbiev.

[Botnake]

Also, if Bivol will only use the same tactic similar to their fight before, he will be a risk to be receiving a knockdown from Beterbiev.

I highly doubt that. I expect him to make big adjustments because he can’t afford to lose this fight. If he does, it’s over, everything he worked for goes to waste. He has to win to force a trilogy with his rival, and if he pulls it off, he’ll maximize his earnings as well.

Of course, Beterbiev will still be the favorite since he won the first fight, and even before that, he was already favored. But maybe it’s time to witness an upset, if that’s what we’re calling it.

[Jating]

What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

It is hard to tell since both boxers have the ability to turn the tide in one punch or a combination of punches.  I also see the first fight as a draw but well it's the referees' decision and we know that they often see something that the fans/crowd can't see.

I think the one who will win this one is the fighter who wanted it the most.  It all depends on who prepares better.  The scouting and conditioning factor is one of the best weapons of a boxer with almost the same caliber.  Whoever corner comes up with the strategy to limit the opponent would be the winner here except of course if a "lucky punch" comes in.

If turning the tide is the argument then I speculate that the fighter that has more powerful power punches that can turn the tide similar to Deontay Wilder is Beterbiev. These power punches of his also made it appear in their fight before that he was giving more hurtful damage against Bivol. I reckon the ending for this fight and how it will appear for the judges will be very much similar to Beterbiev vs. Bivol 1. Also, if Bivol will only use the same tactic similar to their fight before, he will be a risk to be receiving a knockdown from Beterbiev.

Bivol should have learn from the outcome of the first fight. He has a effective strategy, but somewhat his volume punching was not effective because Beterbiev power might have slowly affected him and so in the second half of the fight, or at least round 8, Beterbiev seems to be turning the tide and then Bivol is slowing down. Although he really try to comeback that's why the fight is still very close and ending is controversial.

But as what we have discussed, Bivol should used head movement here, and he can't just allow Beterbiev to wear him down in the late stage of the fight. He should manage not to go all in very early so that he still have the power and gas tank to finish the fight strong.