Trading we cause you more damage than investing.

[eightdots]

Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?

Every business has its own difficulties. It is not easy to make money, but it is possible to make money when you proceed in a planned manner. A lot of money can be earned or lost in trade. How you trade, where you trade and under what conditions are the factors that determine your profit.

Determining the size of the trade is also important because in some periods in the market you may not be able to make the desired sales. In some periods, when you make more sales than you expected, you should use the profit you make well. There are many details like this and trade is a place where experience is important.

[bias]

Trading is reactive, investing is proactive. That’s the core difference. Trading pushes you to react every second to market chaos. You become a slave to screens, graphs, and indicators; the moment you hesitate, you lose. People burn out because it's a psychological warzone, not because trading is "bad"

Investing is like to be long term player. You give long-term value, accumulation, and foundations top priority. But don’t let the “less risky” label fool you. Investing takes a different kind of discipline. You have to be patient, not only with the market; you are banking on the future. Early quitters stop investing because they become bored, start to panic, or pursue rapid gains elsewhere. The ones who win? They remain committed and hold through the cycles

Market chaos, slave to screens, psych warzone... Man, you describe trading and traders like killing machines in a post-apocalyptic future!
But you are right. Trading, even if you don't need to be above a screen all day (and night) long, is reactive and you can't wait too long. Need to be focused and patient and it's not a "put-and-forget" type. But IMO it's investing as well since you choose which coins you want to "invest" to earn more when they rise. If you choose wrong, then you can be burned in no time but if you choose right, then you can be rich.

[stomachgrowls]

Sometimes trading could also give you more profit than investing.
It is all about skills, timing and knowledge if you could earn from trading why wouldn't you use it.
Why not use that skills and capital to earn rather than letting it sleep and wait for the profit?

Every business has its own difficulties. It is not easy to make money, but it is possible to make money when you proceed in a planned manner. A lot of money can be earned or lost in trade. How you trade, where you trade and under what conditions are the factors that determine your profit.

Determining the size of the trade is also important because in some periods in the market you may not be able to make the desired sales. In some periods, when you make more sales than you expected, you should use the profit you make well. There are many details like this and trade is a place where experience is important.

Difficulties are inevitable on which this is something that someone should really be able to sustain or to survive because success isnt something that you cant be able to achieve in a short time period or even doesnt give out that guarantee at the moment that you have decided to touch up this space. Its never been simple but there are those people who are really that still that having that dedication and perseverance in towards dealing up with investment. So we do talk about trading here in regarding about damage then both things could give out that significant damage when it comes to capital or simply with finances and this is why it will really be needing up that good management when it comes to this manner. You would be needing to be strategic and would be learning up the necessary skills.

If you are really that thinking that trading do cause even more bigger damage, then you would really be having that kind of fear on which it will really be that making you hesitate to do the things that you do want to do. You cant be able to think up well if you are really that wanting to have to test out certain strategies because you are really that in fear that you will be losing up money.

[@nn@_pen9]

I wouldn't say that trading can cause more damages than investing, we still have a lot of traders in the game and they are making huge profits too, we all have our different opinions and we think differently. Not everyone has the patience to invest in Bitcoin on the Long period terms, I believe that traders enjoy the thrill of the markets and are willing to put in time and effort to develop their trading skills, most traders have been able to study and navigate the market and they are being incredibly rewarded for it via profits. 

Most likely it's not just patience that determines this, I think there are many other factors or maybe they see people out there who can easily make money easily, most likely this can be a big influence and become their main goal in choosing this trading, examples like this, many people get trapped and experience many losses in trading. This can encourage people to jump into trading without sufficient understanding of the risks involved. Even though they have learned from the mistakes made with the knowledge they have, sometimes market movements are difficult to predict.

[summonerrk]

I recently watched a video with advice from a trader who has twenty years of experience, and he said very interesting things, which, although trivial, will allow you to trade profitably.
He advised to divide your deposit into three parts. Then take the first part and divide it into three more parts and he suggested trading on this small part. If the price will go in the wrong direction, then you will need to add more parts until a third of the entire initial deposit is in action. In this way, you can learn to trade with a small profit and at the same time avoid large drawdowns in price, because you can always average out at the expense of 2/3 of the remaining deposit.

[reefsea]

I recently watched a video with advice from a trader who has twenty years of experience, and he said very interesting things, which, although trivial, will allow you to trade profitably.
He advised to divide your deposit into three parts. Then take the first part and divide it into three more parts and he suggested trading on this small part. If the price will go in the wrong direction, then you will need to add more parts until a third of the entire initial deposit is in action. In this way, you can learn to trade with a small profit and at the same time avoid large drawdowns in price, because you can always average out at the expense of 2/3 of the remaining deposit.

Or in other words, damming or backing up the entry we made at the beginning, I understand it that way. Indeed, this method can be done, but with great risk and maybe only can be done by traders who have large capital, so that when dividing the capital into 3 stages, it is still a large capital of 1/3 of the capital brought. In this investment, it can also be done, for example, buying back at a lower price than our initial investment if the price goes down.

But in my opinion it's the same, because again if our capital is not strong enough to withstand the price movement that moves the other way around, then it will also be a loss. The only difference here is that we don't put a stop loss at the beginning.

[Zadicar]

I recently watched a video with advice from a trader who has twenty years of experience, and he said very interesting things, which, although trivial, will allow you to trade profitably.
He advised to divide your deposit into three parts. Then take the first part and divide it into three more parts and he suggested trading on this small part. If the price will go in the wrong direction, then you will need to add more parts until a third of the entire initial deposit is in action. In this way, you can learn to trade with a small profit and at the same time avoid large drawdowns in price, because you can always average out at the expense of 2/3 of the remaining deposit.

So lets say that you have been able to make use of that 1/3 - 3/3 parts then whats next? Using up the 2/3? Yes, we can be able to apply these sentiments but execution would really be different into each other since each person or trader will really be that different and this is why when it comes into this then it will really be that up to you on making up adjustments. It is really that a wrong mentality when you are really that thinking that trading could cause up damage than investing, specially if you do have the plans on becoming a trader then it will be that just hindering you to become one if you do keep on thinking about negative things. When you do trade then expect that loses will be inevitable, the key on here is that you do really know on making out some adjustments on the moment that you do suffer lose. Instead on freaking out or giving up after a loss then its better that you should be learning from it instead.

[Outhue]

Frankly, trading was the magical solution sold to greedy investors who don't have patience to draw long term goals, neither to wait long periods of time until gathering the fruits of their investments.

With trading, it's said you can maximize financial returns in short periods of time, while not being necessary to start with big sums of money. It's a fertile niche for scammers who are trying to earn comissions over traders through referral links, or for those who want to sell online courses teaching trading mechanisms.

It's been about 10 years I'm following this market, and I'm not familiar with many successful stories involving trading activity. There are many losses on this industry by traders, and those who managed to achieve progress for a while migrated to another sectors of financial market (especially to focus on investments).

I think there is too much fantasy and daydream on the expectations people create regards trading. After all, it's not much different from gambling.

Both trading and investing brings damages when not done right, but investment gives enough time to make the right decision, so yes trading is far more risky than investment.

At the same time, you don't want to invest in altcoins and hold, you will see your portfolio go down to zero, highly likely that this will happen compared to buying and holding Bitcoin, if you have to invest right now its best to go for Bitcoin.

If you want to be a good trader you really have to take things slow, make sure you learn the chart first and focus on a side either day trading or scalping hourly but successful traders do said that weekly or even monthly trading is far better and more clearer than scalping.

[Republikcoin.com]

Or in other words, damming or backing up the entry we made at the beginning, I understand it that way. Indeed, this method can be done, but with great risk and maybe only can be done by traders who have large capital, so that when dividing the capital into 3 stages, it is still a large capital of 1/3 of the capital brought. In this investment, it can also be done, for example, buying back at a lower price than our initial investment if the price goes down.

The initial capital used in trading must also be the same as the backup capital that will be used when the price drops again but still wants to buy at a low price in order to be able to bring back the capital that was previously lost. And clearly in that case it can only be done by traders who have a lot of capital because if the capital is small, of course it is very difficult to make it into several parts even though each capital can be broken into two parts even though in a fairly small size. But that still will not guarantee a very large profit because the backup capital is only to help restore the lost capital, not to take advantage of the trading that is being run.

[Cookdata]

Market chaos, slave to screens, psych warzone... Man, you describe trading and traders like killing machines in a post-apocalyptic future!
But you are right. Trading, even if you don't need to be above a screen all day (and night) long, is reactive and you can't wait too long. Need to be focused and patient and it's not a "put-and-forget" type. But IMO it's investing as well since you choose which coins you want to "invest" to earn more when they rise. If you choose wrong, then you can be burned in no time but if you choose right, then you can be rich.

It's the people to that have seen worse in trading that doesn't like trading. People that are trading don't have two heads, they are making loss and are also making profits, you can't even trade and not talk about loss but with risk management and loss to profit ratio, if you do that I'm very sure that you are going to be fine. There is fear of losing and that's it, you are going to lose for sure but if you are consistent about the journey, you are going to make more.

Another thing OP doesn't talk about is that trader tend to make money than those that makes money from trading. A trader will continue to look for opportunities to make sure he has some percentage from his capital but an investor will have to wait till when the price has gone up very well, in the midst of that the market can go up and down many times and there are plenty of candles you can make money from right from your screen, though it's stressful.

[rachael9385]

Trading involves buying and selling of assets within a short period of time, either within a minute, an hour or in a day in other for you to make quick money.

Yes. But there is one more that you did not mention. Leaving the trading for days or weeks. Some people can even think it is investing but it is not an investment but trading. It is called swing trading.

Investment can be good for coins like bitcoin but not good for many altcoins, especially the memecoins and many recently listed altcoins. I saw some coins that fell 250 to 1000 times within just 2 to 3 weeks.

It is good not to invest on wrong coins.

I agree with you on this, he generalized trading as day trading alone forgetting that there are also people that are into swing trading. A lot of people don't really like the idea of leaving a trade open for days though because they feel that the risks of doing that are very high, this is why a lot of people stick to day trade alone but whichever category of trades you are into it's still not referred to be called an investment. Asides from Bitcoin which can be invested for months and even years there are no other trusted coins to leave for months due to volatility.

[reefsea]

Or in other words, damming or backing up the entry we made at the beginning, I understand it that way. Indeed, this method can be done, but with great risk and maybe only can be done by traders who have large capital, so that when dividing the capital into 3 stages, it is still a large capital of 1/3 of the capital brought. In this investment, it can also be done, for example, buying back at a lower price than our initial investment if the price goes down.

The initial capital used in trading must also be the same as the backup capital that will be used when the price drops again but still wants to buy at a low price in order to be able to bring back the capital that was previously lost. And clearly in that case it can only be done by traders who have a lot of capital because if the capital is small, of course it is very difficult to make it into several parts even though each capital can be broken into two parts even though in a fairly small size. But that still will not guarantee a very large profit because the backup capital is only to help restore the lost capital, not to take advantage of the trading that is being run.

Surely it will have the same number, because at the beginning it was clearly stated to divide the 3 parts of the capital that we have.

Obviously it does not guarantee a very large profit, the risk will always be there in any strategy. It's just that everyone has their own way and strategy and they believe their strategy is the most feasible based on their respective experiences of course. But can this strategy make everyone comfortable? Of course not, because again, in trading we usually have to find a strategy that we feel comfortable with to take advantage of the market and take advantage.

[Antotena]

I agree with you on this, he generalized trading as day trading alone forgetting that there are also people that are into swing trading. A lot of people don't really like the idea of leaving a trade open for days though because they feel that the risks of doing that are very high, this is why a lot of people stick to day trade alone but whichever category of trades you are into it's still not referred to be called an investment. Asides from Bitcoin which can be invested for months and even years there are no other trusted coins to leave for months due to volatility.

Well swing trading are only sweet during bull run. It's very easy to spot swings during bull run but when it it's bear market, the market becomes so messy that you hardly find it hard to see swings on trades unless. It's better to be a good daily trader on the time frame you see opportunity than been swing trader because I see swing trading as gambling some times, you just see something and thinks it's good wave only for it to get bouce back because there is a lot of manipulation in trading.

I like trading and I like investing, if you have the time you can do the two and make money from the both but if you have limited time, stick to investment but there is money and opportunities in trading and that's why you see there are billions of volume traded Bitcoin every day in the market, they are the reason why the market is liquid and they are the reason why we see spike, you can be a trader and make money from market going down, but you can't do such with investment.

[GeorgeJohn]

Yes I think that you are on positive pond because some people who does not know how to trade do make a lot of losses in Trading, it is better for you, to invest mostly in Bitcoin investment for long time than for you to venture into trading without knowing the concept of trading, that has been the reason why many people do records losses when there are into trading, because they have not understand the concept of trading, I think op, this your thread should be a reference to beginners, to know that trading is more risky than long-term investment in cryptocurrencies especially in Bitcoin.

[red4slash]

I recently watched a video with advice from a trader who has twenty years of experience, and he said very interesting things, which, although trivial, will allow you to trade profitably.
He advised to divide your deposit into three parts. Then take the first part and divide it into three more parts and he suggested trading on this small part. If the price will go in the wrong direction, then you will need to add more parts until a third of the entire initial deposit is in action. In this way, you can learn to trade with a small profit and at the same time avoid large drawdowns in price, because you can always average out at the expense of 2/3 of the remaining deposit.

Well in the end it's just a tips although it may be based on the experience he did but in the end the thing as described is just a way to minimize the losses obtained from the trading done.

Situations like this will indeed seem to be considered good but in other conditions we must realize that what is said sometimes only becomes a condition where indeed we are only shown the sweet thing about something without showing the bitter thing.

For 20 years with said success in the end we must also realize that the losses he has still exist so that in the end the videos given sometimes only convince us that it is only a form of minimizing losses not to bring profit from the trading that is carried out.

[Dailyscript]

Trading involves buying and selling of assets within a short period of time, either within a minute, an hour or in a day in other for you to make quick money.

Yes. But there is one more that you did not mention. Leaving the trading for days or weeks. Some people can even think it is investing but it is not an investment but trading. It is called swing trading.

Investment can be good for coins like bitcoin but not good for many altcoins, especially the memecoins and many recently listed altcoins. I saw some coins that fell 250 to 1000 times within just 2 to 3 weeks.

It is good not to invest on wrong coins.

I agree with you on this, he generalized trading as day trading alone forgetting that there are also people that are into swing trading. A lot of people don't really like the idea of leaving a trade open for days though because they feel that the risks of doing that are very high, this is why a lot of people stick to day trade alone but whichever category of trades you are into it's still not referred to be called an investment. Asides from Bitcoin which can be invested for months and even years there are no other trusted coins to leave for months due to volatility.

When they are learning trading or investment then they should try to learn every terminologies that has to do with trading or investment becasue you will see people trading but they will call it investment just because they kept the asset in the account for a while. IMO, trading and investment starts with the mindset. Before taking a bold step there is a choice we have already made in mind although humans choice are dynamic at time but it is better to stick to one thing.

[Kristiyana]

Trading involves buying and selling of assets within a short period of time, either within a minute, an hour or in a day in other for you to make quick money.

Yes. But there is one more that you did not mention. Leaving the trading for days or weeks. Some people can even think it is investing but it is not an investment but trading. It is called swing trading.

Investment can be good for coins like bitcoin but not good for many altcoins, especially the memecoins and many recently listed altcoins. I saw some coins that fell 250 to 1000 times within just 2 to 3 weeks.

It is good not to invest on wrong coins.

I agree with you on this, he generalized trading as day trading alone forgetting that there are also people that are into swing trading. A lot of people don't really like the idea of leaving a trade open for days though because they feel that the risks of doing that are very high, this is why a lot of people stick to day trade alone but whichever category of trades you are into it's still not referred to be called an investment. Asides from Bitcoin which can be invested for months and even years there are no other trusted coins to leave for months due to volatility.

When they are learning trading or investment then they should try to learn every terminologies that has to do with trading or investment becasue you will see people trading but they will call it investment just because they kept the asset in the account for a while. IMO, trading and investment starts with the mindset. Before taking a bold step there is a choice we have already made in mind although humans choice are dynamic at time but it is better to stick to one thing.

Of course most people still sees trading as investment that's because they have no idea about how crypto trading works, maybe they just decide to venture into crypto trading just because they saw those trading expertise making a huge amount of money just within a couple of weeks or months. I think this is what triggered most of this people who are seeing crypto trading the other way round, sometimes is not all about being so curious to get profited just like other people. We should know that having the knowledge about how it works is very essential before you can think of making any plan.

[STT]

Trading can be very profitable but the chances you are a good trader are perhaps similar to your odds betting the horses, it takes years to master if ever and I still think its a tenth of a percent those can be do it better then just the slower route of investing.  Over ambition can be a fault and thats true of most attempts to trade, unless you know the future legally some great insight perhaps its very hard to say exactly what will happen next.

The further out the time line taken the easier the task can become, so estimating BTC has a further ATH to achieve then the current one registered is still an unknown but an easier question then if we are up or down next week.

[Mahanton]

Trading involves buying and selling of assets within a short period of time, either within a minute, an hour or in a day in other for you to make quick money.

Yes. But there is one more that you did not mention. Leaving the trading for days or weeks. Some people can even think it is investing but it is not an investment but trading. It is called swing trading.

Investment can be good for coins like bitcoin but not good for many altcoins, especially the memecoins and many recently listed altcoins. I saw some coins that fell 250 to 1000 times within just 2 to 3 weeks.

It is good not to invest on wrong coins.

I agree with you on this, he generalized trading as day trading alone forgetting that there are also people that are into swing trading. A lot of people don't really like the idea of leaving a trade open for days though because they feel that the risks of doing that are very high, this is why a lot of people stick to day trade alone but whichever category of trades you are into it's still not referred to be called an investment. Asides from Bitcoin which can be invested for months and even years there are no other trusted coins to leave for months due to volatility.

When they are learning trading or investment then they should try to learn every terminologies that has to do with trading or investment becasue you will see people trading but they will call it investment just because they kept the asset in the account for a while. IMO, trading and investment starts with the mindset. Before taking a bold step there is a choice we have already made in mind although humans choice are dynamic at time but it is better to stick to one thing.

Of course most people still sees trading as investment that's because they have no idea about how crypto trading works, maybe they just decide to venture into crypto trading just because they saw those trading expertise making a huge amount of money just within a couple of weeks or months. I think this is what triggered most of this people who are seeing crypto trading the other way round, sometimes is not all about being so curious to get profited just like other people. We should know that having the knowledge about how it works is very essential before you can think of making any plan.

Most newbies will really be that thinking up on this way on which at the time that they've seen that someone do make out some huge amount of profit on their trading then the primary thing that comes up into their mind is that if these people do able to make it or been able to do such thing then they would also be able to make it through. Now, that on the moment that they've started on doing trading and the reality do able to make them realize that it was never been that simple and never been that so easy. This is why it will really be that recommended that you should really be having at least that sensibility on what are the things that you are currently dealing on with. Trading could give out that damage but once you do able to have a good grasps or learning from it then you can be able to minimize those risks.

Trading can be very profitable but the chances you are a good trader are perhaps similar to your odds betting the horses, it takes years to master if ever and I still think its a tenth of a percent those can be do it better then just the slower route of investing.  Over ambition can be a fault and thats true of most attempts to trade, unless you know the future legally some great insight perhaps its very hard to say exactly what will happen next.

The further out the time line taken the easier the task can become, so estimating BTC has a further ATH to achieve then the current one registered is still an unknown but an easier question then if we are up or down next week.

Mastery isnt something that you could be able to learn overnight or something that you can be able to learn in a few days period. This is the wrong mentality for most who are really just that starting up with trading on which they do really that believe that they could really be that profitable at the moment that they would really be engaging with it, but once that they would really be able to have that sample experience on how this market behaves then this is where they would really be making out some realizations that it was never been that easy and never been that so simple. Just like on what i have said that it could really be able to cause up that damage on which it would be normal but as you do go ahead and learn different things along the way like strategies and methods then it will really be giving out that possibility that the risks will really be that lessen. You will be able to have that adjustment and deeper understanding on how market behaves because on the moment that you will be that too optimistic on which this do really give out that overconfidence on which makes up bad decisions.

[Onyeeze]

Many people who achieve nothing in Trading has left threading behind because of the losses there experience during trading, and again, trading requires much concentration and the people who does not know that trading requires concentration are the people that lose more in Trading, so for me I prefer investment of different coins that is valuable that has a potential more than trading kind of investment, but many people think that trading gives profits  more than holding a bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency