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March 26, 2025, 09:01:28 AM
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I do not agree with government intervention in gambling cases, as i do not agree against any external intervention, since i am an anarchist.
I am all for more attention to mental health for those with addictions. But it depends on the person.
Obviously you can't force anyone, it would be against the NAP
Government intervention may mean that gamblers can be subject to physical and financial punishment, but it will not intervene in the matter of how a gambler can quit gambling forever. Moreover, a gambler can never be stopped by forcibly punishing him on the street. Rather, it is believed that it would be more effective if he were referred to a good psychologist and treated.

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March 26, 2025, 09:08:11 AM
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I totally agree with that. Why do people want to shift their problem onto the shoulders of the state? Government does not force them to gamble, government has nothing to do with how people spend their money. Government should not be responsible for persons character. If a person is greedy and isnt able to cope with emotions, government should not be babysitting an adult. Even if government would start to do strict regulations. Those who lose in gambling would be happy for that, thinking that they would gamble less, but what about those who win in gambling? Possible gambling law will work for everyone.
Sometimes nowadays, we give things or requests that are sometimes too much just because we are already difficult to manage so we try other ways to do things including asking the government to do it.

Although I will not say that this is a mistake, but in the end we must realize that in the end gambling even if the government acts in it they can never be eliminated or stopped in terms of circulation as long as we (gamblers) still want to play it.
Even if we ask the government to take action but when we still continue to play in gambling then everything will be the same because the government will not be able to do anything against gambling and against the gamblers themselves even though many urge to intervene in it.

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March 26, 2025, 09:13:22 AM
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I do not agree with government intervention in gambling cases, as i do not agree against any external intervention, since i am an anarchist.
I am all for more attention to mental health for those with addictions. But it depends on the person.
Obviously you can't force anyone, it would be against the NAP

Even if anarchy reigns in the world for a long time, people will still self-organize and create governments, since humanity cannot exist without hierarchy.

As for government interference in gambling - they interfere in all areas where there is a possibility of laundering illegal money. You just have to accept it, as they oppose the entrenchment of organized crime.
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March 26, 2025, 09:15:32 AM
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Sometimes nowadays, we give things or requests that are sometimes too much just because we are already difficult to manage so we try other ways to do things including asking the government to do it.

Although I will not say that this is a mistake, but in the end we must realize that in the end gambling even if the government acts in it they can never be eliminated or stopped in terms of circulation as long as we (gamblers) still want to play it.
Even if we ask the government to take action but when we still continue to play in gambling then everything will be the same because the government will not be able to do anything against gambling and against the gamblers themselves even though many urge to intervene in it.
Ultimately, even if we imagine that the government will ban gambling in the country, the player can move to the one in which he will be comfortable. Of course, few will do this, but some will do it because of the love of the game, of course, those who do not have a family and who can afford it. Therefore, we can say that the center of attraction of players will simply change, that's all. Players will always exist, because a boring and monotonous life from salary to salary, as well as everyday life are incredibly boring and sometimes you want to tickle your nerves, although minimally. Of course, there are other entertainments in life that you need to discover for yourself and try something new, but while gambling is easily accessible, I am not going to give it up.

 
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March 26, 2025, 01:50:21 PM
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Even if anarchy reigns in the world for a long time, people will still self-organize and create governments, since humanity cannot exist without hierarchy.

As for government interference in gambling - they interfere in all areas where there is a possibility of laundering illegal money. You just have to accept it, as they oppose the entrenchment of organized crime.

The main thing to consider here is that casinos bring a huge amount of money to government.

So in reality, they just turn a blind eye to all the negatives that gambling brings to society.

This includes all the problems for addicted gamblers and also all the illegal stuff that gets around with money laundering at casinos...

Many governments have corruption all the way to the top, so there is no way casinos will be stopped by government, they also want their cut.q

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March 26, 2025, 04:04:32 PM
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I believe that every person can free themselves forever from certain things,  I personally am Capable of saying that one is capable of freeing themselves from anything if they have a clear objective, addiction can be cured, and if you do not want to be in a casino or anything anymore, then you must do it, it is a matter of decision, we as humans have the power of reason, that differentiates us from animals as well as intelligence, if there is something that does not fall badly you should not do it, nor consume it or something, so I say when you gamble and you have already had a gambling problem the test of gold and fire is to go back to a casino and play only what you should play and that's it, from there not fall again, there is no need to never go back, you have to have that discipline.


Well said. We as humans are capable of doing almost anything if we have a strong determination and will to do it.
We have heard cases of people overcoming the worst addictions and so gambling addiction, while being strongly addictive, can still be cured.

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March 26, 2025, 04:13:51 PM
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I believe that every person can free themselves forever from certain things,  I personally am Capable of saying that one is capable of freeing themselves from anything if they have a clear objective, addiction can be cured, and if you do not want to be in a casino or anything anymore, then you must do it, it is a matter of decision, we as humans have the power of reason, that differentiates us from animals as well as intelligence, if there is something that does not fall badly you should not do it, nor consume it or something, so I say when you gamble and you have already had a gambling problem the test of gold and fire is to go back to a casino and play only what you should play and that's it, from there not fall again, there is no need to never go back, you have to have that discipline.


Well said. We as humans are capable of doing almost anything if we have a strong determination and will to do it.
We have heard cases of people overcoming the worst addictions and so gambling addiction, while being strongly addictive, can still be cured.


I don't want to spoil your positivism or your optimism when comes to the capabilities we have as human beings to over come such powerful addictions like addictions to hard drugs or behavioral addictions, like addiction to gambling. But for every successful recovery story we find on the internet or in some documentary film, there are hundreds or thousands of people who do not manage to recover and end up having a sad ending to their situation.
That is why we only do not need to be optimistic and trust in the individual capabilities of people who is addicted to anything... we must ask and demand for better conditions on mental health facilities and demand more awareness to gambling addiction as a mental problem and reduce the stigma associated to it.
Miracles do not come alone, we must work for them to happen, in the most of the occasions.

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March 26, 2025, 04:23:07 PM
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Some people earn honest money and occasionally gamble for playful fun, while many others face a lifetime of misery by being chained to their addiction. If you ever want to change, the key lies in your mind. Learn a bit about dopamine* addiction, there are some great sources and answers on youtube.

*"Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone produced in the brain that plays a key role in sending messages between nerve cells. It is involved in various functions, including mood regulation, motivation, pleasure, and movement control." 

Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.

I don't think a non addicted gambler has any reason to completey be free from gambling. If we say we gamble for fun and stick to that very simple rule and avoid think about gambling as a means to make money, then we might be able to avoid so many health complications that comes along with gambling. A non addicted gambler is able to control his gambling habits, stay reserved and have a proper risk management plan. Some one who has failed to follow these simple rules will surely end up being addicted.

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March 26, 2025, 05:07:57 PM
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Some people earn honest money and occasionally gamble for playful fun, while many others face a lifetime of misery by being chained to their addiction. If you ever want to change, the key lies in your mind. Learn a bit about dopamine* addiction, there are some great sources and answers on youtube.

*"Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone produced in the brain that plays a key role in sending messages between nerve cells. It is involved in various functions, including mood regulation, motivation, pleasure, and movement control." 

Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.

I don't think a non addicted gambler has any reason to completey be free from gambling. If we say we gamble for fun and stick to that very simple rule and avoid think about gambling as a means to make money, then we might be able to avoid so many health complications that comes along with gambling. A non addicted gambler is able to control his gambling habits, stay reserved and have a proper risk management plan. Some one who has failed to follow these simple rules will surely end up being addicted.
The only time that what makes you free is on the time or moment that you are free from gambling addiction, if we do speak about free on playing then its literally that you can play anytime with gambling. If we do speak about being addicted and getting shackled with it then this is where issues do really come out. If you arent that good on handling your emotions or mindset towards gambling then you would really be definitely get easily be addicted into it. There's nothing wrong when you do gamble, it is really just that a certain person do really experience unfortunate conditions when they are really that making up some non good decision making in regarding on how they should be dealing up with gambling. It is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment and not something that you do make it as an income source. People do really have that kind of high expectations towards it and this is why they do end up on having that huge problem.
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The only time that what makes you free is on the time or moment that you are free from gambling addiction, if we do speak about free on playing then its literally that you can play anytime with gambling. If we do speak about being addicted and getting shackled with it then this is where issues do really come out. If you arent that good on handling your emotions or mindset towards gambling then you would really be definitely get easily be addicted into it. There's nothing wrong when you do gamble, it is really just that a certain person do really experience unfortunate conditions when they are really that making up some non good decision making in regarding on how they should be dealing up with gambling. It is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment and not something that you do make it as an income source. People do really have that kind of high expectations towards it and this is why they do end up on having that huge problem.
Freedom from gambling addiction is freedom from need to play, not freedom to play. Large difference. People mistake "choice" for "compulsion" and then put luck the responsibility when the consequence hits. When emotions lead, logic vanishes.  This is on the collapse of self-governance in a society under hyperstimulus. Loops of dopamine. Systems of instant gratification. Although you believe you are playing a game, the game is playing you. A online casino meant to control your neurochemistry is not at all casual. While some people "just have fun", those same folks also cross crowded roads since it "seemed clear". Wisdom does not equate with risk tolerance.

People gamble, not because they are broken. Their brokenness comes from their outsourcing of their value to chance. They are looking for control among chaos. A high-stakes shortcut to significance. And no one warns you because the whole thing profits off your delusion.

Therefore, no, it is not only about emotional weakness. It's about structural stupidity, marketed addiction, and the inner civil war between your higher will and your inner escape artist. Play for fun? OK. But you have already lost if you so want it, expect it, believe in it.
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The only time that what makes you free is on the time or moment that you are free from gambling addiction, if we do speak about free on playing then its literally that you can play anytime with gambling. If we do speak about being addicted and getting shackled with it then this is where issues do really come out. If you arent that good on handling your emotions or mindset towards gambling then you would really be definitely get easily be addicted into it. There's nothing wrong when you do gamble, it is really just that a certain person do really experience unfortunate conditions when they are really that making up some non good decision making in regarding on how they should be dealing up with gambling. It is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment and not something that you do make it as an income source. People do really have that kind of high expectations towards it and this is why they do end up on having that huge problem.
Freedom from gambling addiction is freedom from need to play, not freedom to play. Large difference. People mistake "choice" for "compulsion" and then put luck the responsibility when the consequence hits. When emotions lead, logic vanishes.  This is on the collapse of self-governance in a society under hyperstimulus. Loops of dopamine. Systems of instant gratification. Although you believe you are playing a game, the game is playing you. A online casino meant to control your neurochemistry is not at all casual. While some people "just have fun", those same folks also cross crowded roads since it "seemed clear". Wisdom does not equate with risk tolerance.

People gamble, not because they are broken. Their brokenness comes from their outsourcing of their value to chance. They are looking for control among chaos. A high-stakes shortcut to significance. And no one warns you because the whole thing profits off your delusion.

Therefore, no, it is not only about emotional weakness. It's about structural stupidity, marketed addiction, and the inner civil war between your higher will and your inner escape artist. Play for fun? OK. But you have already lost if you so want it, expect it, believe in it.

That's the consequences of addiction, if makes one develope a habit for that particular thing and they fail to evaluate the need of doing the habit but focus on the urge to which is not necessary, it's something that's very difficult to get out of and sometimes people even seek spiritual help when therapy and rehab doesn't yield solutions. Well, cases like that are not very rampant. Anyways, asides rehab, Therapy and the rest, quiting gambling addiction is a personal decision when someone has not made up their mindset to change, it would be tough to talk then out of it, even though much pressure is applied on them by loved ones, through rehab, thereapy or any means they'll still go back into it when the slightest opportunity arrives.

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Some people earn honest money and occasionally gamble for playful fun, while many others face a lifetime of misery by being chained to their addiction. If you ever want to change, the key lies in your mind. Learn a bit about dopamine* addiction, there are some great sources and answers on youtube.

*"Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone produced in the brain that plays a key role in sending messages between nerve cells. It is involved in various functions, including mood regulation, motivation, pleasure, and movement control." 

Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.

I don't think a non addicted gambler has any reason to completey be free from gambling. If we say we gamble for fun and stick to that very simple rule and avoid think about gambling as a means to make money, then we might be able to avoid so many health complications that comes along with gambling. A non addicted gambler is able to control his gambling habits, stay reserved and have a proper risk management plan. Some one who has failed to follow these simple rules will surely end up being addicted.
This is easy to say but much harder to follow, a gambler first time initially wants to gamble just for fun, but when they get small wins, their desire for bigger wins increases. Although they start gambling for fun, it becomes a means of earning money over time for him.

Gradually, their desire to win increases, and at some point, their main purpose for gambling is to make money. Gambling for pure entertainment is not easy, because every person needs money, and when someone starts winning through gambling in the first place, they become attached to it, their desire to win increases and at that point they become addicted.

However, if a gambler can maturely confine the purpose of gambling to entertainment only, and maintain certain limits well, then he will never move towards such an addiction.

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Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.


As a person who has the control not to get addicted and is currently gambling casually, I can say NO, I don't want to be free from gambling forever. I mean, gambling is fun, If you know how to do it correctly.
My advise to those who can't control their urges? Well, nothing much, but to learn how to control it in their own special ways. Something may have worked for me, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for the others. They should find other inspirations outside gambling. I mean, hobbies and activities of their interest outside gambling. That's where every person differs from each other. Diverting ones time by not allocating much in gambling will definitely work. So, these people should work on getting into other activities rather than just relying in gambling every time they found themselves in a free time.

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I believe that every person can free themselves forever from certain things,  I personally am Capable of saying that one is capable of freeing themselves from anything if they have a clear objective, addiction can be cured, and if you do not want to be in a casino or anything anymore, then you must do it, it is a matter of decision, we as humans have the power of reason, that differentiates us from animals as well as intelligence, if there is something that does not fall badly you should not do it, nor consume it or something, so I say when you gamble and you have already had a gambling problem the test of gold and fire is to go back to a casino and play only what you should play and that's it, from there not fall again, there is no need to never go back, you have to have that discipline.


Well said. We as humans are capable of doing almost anything if we have a strong determination and will to do it.
We have heard cases of people overcoming the worst addictions and so gambling addiction, while being strongly addictive, can still be cured.

No matter how bad their gambling addiction is, it can certainly still be cured with the key being in themselves, which in my opinion they must have their own desire to recover from their addiction, that way they themselves will have the determination to avoid gambling slowly, maybe even by themselves they can do it but when they have no intention of stopping it will be difficult even with the help of others.

But it is clear that there are quite a lot of people who are addicted to gambling and it is difficult to recover from their addiction, besides that people who are addicted to gambling tend to be more stubborn.
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The only time that what makes you free is on the time or moment that you are free from gambling addiction, if we do speak about free on playing then its literally that you can play anytime with gambling. If we do speak about being addicted and getting shackled with it then this is where issues do really come out. If you arent that good on handling your emotions or mindset towards gambling then you would really be definitely get easily be addicted into it. There's nothing wrong when you do gamble, it is really just that a certain person do really experience unfortunate conditions when they are really that making up some non good decision making in regarding on how they should be dealing up with gambling. It is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment and not something that you do make it as an income source. People do really have that kind of high expectations towards it and this is why they do end up on having that huge problem.
Freedom from gambling addiction is freedom from need to play, not freedom to play. Large difference. People mistake "choice" for "compulsion" and then put luck the responsibility when the consequence hits. When emotions lead, logic vanishes.  This is on the collapse of self-governance in a society under hyperstimulus. Loops of dopamine. Systems of instant gratification. Although you believe you are playing a game, the game is playing you. A online casino meant to control your neurochemistry is not at all casual. While some people "just have fun", those same folks also cross crowded roads since it "seemed clear". Wisdom does not equate with risk tolerance.

People gamble, not because they are broken. Their brokenness comes from their outsourcing of their value to chance. They are looking for control among chaos. A high-stakes shortcut to significance. And no one warns you because the whole thing profits off your delusion.

Therefore, no, it is not only about emotional weakness. It's about structural stupidity, marketed addiction, and the inner civil war between your higher will and your inner escape artist. Play for fun? OK. But you have already lost if you so want it, expect it, believe in it.

That's the consequences of addiction, if makes one develope a habit for that particular thing and they fail to evaluate the need of doing the habit but focus on the urge to which is not necessary, it's something that's very difficult to get out of and sometimes people even seek spiritual help when therapy and rehab doesn't yield solutions. Well, cases like that are not very rampant. Anyways, asides rehab, Therapy and the rest, quiting gambling addiction is a personal decision when someone has not made up their mindset to change, it would be tough to talk then out of it, even though much pressure is applied on them by loved ones, through rehab, thereapy or any means they'll still go back into it when the slightest opportunity arrives.
Addiction has different levels and also depend on the victim if they are actually ready to be free from it. Once we take decision and focus on our goal, quitting addiction would not be a problem even if it's going to take a longer time to quit. Gambling addiction is easy to prevent which is better than getting the addiction first before one know what to do to stop it. Gambling is not a game or something that we should put all our hope and effort on because this is a game of chance. You could either win or lose and the probability of any gambler losing is very big compared to winning. Casinos will always be superior to us whether we are convinced or not. The have the game, the odds attached to every games and the services. We are only participating in it which do not mean that our winning is guaranteed.

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Some people earn honest money and occasionally gamble for playful fun, while many others face a lifetime of misery by being chained to their addiction. If you ever want to change, the key lies in your mind. Learn a bit about dopamine* addiction, there are some great sources and answers on youtube.

*"Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone produced in the brain that plays a key role in sending messages between nerve cells. It is involved in various functions, including mood regulation, motivation, pleasure, and movement control." 

Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.

One major way also to quit such addiction is accepting that you are addicted. some people will never accept the fact that their addicted to such act and that will make them feel like they have control over it not knowing that it even has control over you instead, if you cant stop it that means you are clearly addicted to it there is no further explanation to why you still do it,
*Accept
*Work on stopping it [discipline]
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I don't want to spoil your positivism or your optimism when comes to the capabilities we have as human beings to over come such powerful addictions like addictions to hard drugs or behavioral addictions, like addiction to gambling. But for every successful recovery story we find on the internet or in some documentary film, there are hundreds or thousands of people who do not manage to recover and end up having a sad ending to their situation.
That is why we only do not need to be optimistic and trust in the individual capabilities of people who is addicted to anything... we must ask and demand for better conditions on mental health facilities and demand more awareness to gambling addiction as a mental problem and reduce the stigma associated to it.
Miracles do not come alone, we must work for them to happen, in the most of the occasions.

Definitely. There would be thousands of people who might not have successfully recovered yet but on the other hand, they should take these people as a motivation and follow their approaches to overcome their addictions.
Although its not just about determination and will power but also discilpline and mindfulness.
We need to have that kind of a mindset to overcome any kind of addiction and yes, while I do agree with you, it still depends from person to person but again, it's still not impossible.

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March 27, 2025, 04:14:40 PM
Last edit: March 27, 2025, 05:56:29 PM by Judith87403
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I do not agree with government intervention in gambling cases, as i do not agree against any external intervention, since i am an anarchist.
I am all for more attention to mental health for those with addictions. But it depends on the person.
Obviously you can't force anyone, it would be against the NAP
Government intervention may mean that gamblers can be subject to physical and financial punishment, but it will not intervene in the matter of how a gambler can quit gambling forever. Moreover, a gambler can never be stopped by forcibly punishing him on the street. Rather, it is believed that it would be more effective if he were referred to a good psychologist and treated.

Of course you don't force anyone to gamble neither will you force those who are into the system to quit from gambling, because gambling is an individuals choice. Though you're right when you said about referring to a good psychologist that's for those who find it very hard in sticking to thier decision, while some gamblers can possibly put an end to gambling without even seeking for help from any psychologist. And of course psychologist can be of good help to those that find it very difficult to let it go.

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March 27, 2025, 05:26:48 PM
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Basically addiction is about attraction, meaning it can be said that an addicted gambler is someone who has an excessive attraction to winning, it all starts from the mistake of responding to the sensation of pleasure they feel when they win which indirectly increases the following attraction also by obscuring them from the fact that defeat can happen at any time.

So maybe my solution if for example a gambler wants to be free from addiction problems or stop gambling completely, then the first thing to overcome is to eliminate or reduce their attraction to winning, one of which is by reaffirming to yourself that gambling is risky and winning does not depend on how hard you fight but depends on how lucky you are when playing, I think that can bring awareness.

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March 27, 2025, 08:10:16 PM
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Some people earn honest money and occasionally gamble for playful fun, while many others face a lifetime of misery by being chained to their addiction. If you ever want to change, the key lies in your mind. Learn a bit about dopamine* addiction, there are some great sources and answers on youtube.

*"Dopamine is a neurotransmitter and hormone produced in the brain that plays a key role in sending messages between nerve cells. It is involved in various functions, including mood regulation, motivation, pleasure, and movement control." 

Question: Are there some "non-addicted" players here who have suggestions to help others be more controlled?
Do you want to be free of gambling forever? Start TODAY before more months and years pass by.

I don't think a non addicted gambler has any reason to completey be free from gambling. If we say we gamble for fun and stick to that very simple rule and avoid think about gambling as a means to make money, then we might be able to avoid so many health complications that comes along with gambling. A non addicted gambler is able to control his gambling habits, stay reserved and have a proper risk management plan. Some one who has failed to follow these simple rules will surely end up being addicted.
You are right, there is no point in discussing the issue of getting rid of gambling for those who are not addicted gamblers. However, it is difficult to quit in gambling for those who are addicted. They gamble for the purpose of earning money and then when they lose money in gambling, they are the ones who are facing various health risks. If gambling does not turn into an addiction and if someone manages responsible gambling, then gambling is not a problem for him. I try to gamble within my limitations, which is why I do not have to take any decision to stop gambling.
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