School or Skills?

[bakasabo]

The education system sometimes only focuses on learning according to the curriculum so that it does not accustom students to learn more independently. I see an education system like this not producing someone who will have skills but only as a place to get a diploma. Education that actually educates students' character to have skills so that they do not need to be fixated only on curriculum-based learning, but the education system actually happens like this.

For me, the first step is skills because with skills a person can work according to their abilities. People who have skills will usually be much easier to adapt compared to people who have a higher level of education. This is different from special jobs that require someone to get skills from the education they are undergoing.

Theory without practice is nothing. If a person has learned something in school, become educated, but cant use that knowledge, I would say that his knowledge worth nothing and he has wasted his time. Relying blindly on education only is wrong, because school or university give only basic knowledge. Everything else person learn only when he use his knowledge.

That can sound wrong, but I would go with skill and master it, and dedicate less time to education, because today it is easy to find educated person, than a skilled master.

[jvanname]

Theory without practice is nothing. If a person has learned something in school, become educated, but cant use that knowledge, I would say that his knowledge worth nothing and he has wasted his time. Relying blindly on education only is wrong, because school or university give only basic knowledge. Everything else person learn only when he use his knowledge.

That can sound wrong, but I would go with skill and master it, and dedicate less time to education, because today it is easy to find educated person, than a skilled master.

Universities are now scam diploma mills. Today, you can hardly find someone who is educated. All of you motherfuckers are too fucking stupid to understand that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science. I am still waiting for universities to apologize. But they won't do this because your 'education' is just a SCAM.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Agbamoni]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

No matter how far you go in theoritical education, majority of jobs are done pratically. And i do think its a cause of failling educational system, majority of schools these days invest more on the theoritical aspect of education which will certialy make those that already have the skill as a result of skill acquisition surpass them pratically. And because of this reason some graduates still go ahead to further their education because the theoritical education is not enough. Although some schools are ready to offer pratical education but dont have enough equipments to get it done.
So individuals with the skill will be more considerd than that of educational qualifications. Imagin a person that has stayed in the neaighbourhood with a mechanic, people coming to fix cars every single time, they weld cars, spray cars, remove and uncouple engines, couple them back ETC and they give him a car to fix with a random problem and they also give a graduate a car with the same problem who do you think will be more faster and acurrate of course its the neaighbourhood guy.
And an organization that know what they want will certainlly choose people with more quality not more ceitificates.

Your right though. Tuition fees are paid every year, the school promised to give the best educational impact to the student, so they owe them nothing but fully educational facilities to carry every practical, but these schools don't provide these things. The educational system now seems to be an avenue for embezzlement of individual funds. It is so wrong that after finishing higher institution you still need to go learn the practical aspect of what you studied in an organization. What is now the point of going to school?

I have heard of failed graduates when i was serving in my country. These graduates where employed by companies, there certificates gave them the job, but they can't do the job in the end they have to sack them and employ those who have the required skill knowledge even without certificates.

[Crackboy68]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

Both of us need to have these two activities in ourselves. Because if you are applicable to the job field, then you need to have two things, degree and diploma. Your educational qualification will be considered for employment in a position. When you are accessed by looking at your documents, after that your qualities and skills will be considered. How far you are ahead in terms of skills is considered as a job by the employer. In other words, we need both school and skills.

[dunfida]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

No matter how far you go in theoritical education, majority of jobs are done pratically. And i do think its a cause of failling educational system, majority of schools these days invest more on the theoritical aspect of education which will certialy make those that already have the skill as a result of skill acquisition surpass them pratically. And because of this reason some graduates still go ahead to further their education because the theoritical education is not enough. Although some schools are ready to offer pratical education but dont have enough equipments to get it done.
So individuals with the skill will be more considerd than that of educational qualifications. Imagin a person that has stayed in the neaighbourhood with a mechanic, people coming to fix cars every single time, they weld cars, spray cars, remove and uncouple engines, couple them back ETC and they give him a car to fix with a random problem and they also give a graduate a car with the same problem who do you think will be more faster and acurrate of course its the neaighbourhood guy.
And an organization that know what they want will certainlly choose people with more quality not more ceitificates.

Your right though. Tuition fees are paid every year, the school promised to give the best educational impact to the student, so they owe them nothing but fully educational facilities to carry every practical, but these schools don't provide these things. The educational system now seems to be an avenue for embezzlement of individual funds. It is so wrong that after finishing higher institution you still need to go learn the practical aspect of what you studied in an organization. What is now the point of going to school?

I have heard of failed graduates when i was serving in my country. These graduates where employed by companies, there certificates gave them the job, but they can't do the job in the end they have to sack them and employ those who have the required skill knowledge even without certificates.

There's always that specialty on which this is something that a certain job will be needing up that certain skills. Some companies or employers do make out some exemption when it comes into this aspect on which they've been that making up some reconsiderations into those individuals who do have that specific skills that can do the job and neglecting out into those kind of formality or basing up on the standard that someone should be having that educational attainment for them to quality. Skills do speaks for itself but it depends if that certain employer wont be that meticulous when it comes into other factors on choosing up their employees then you might be able to pull or get the job but this is somewhat needing up that mix of luck too when to get chosen. In todays standard then those people who do have that skills+educational attainment or degree does have that kind of advantage in the competition.

Reconsiderations might be given but not really that often. In employers perspective then you do go for school or having a degree because you've been that wanting for your workers to finish up on a relevant course or knowledge they do have and the rest of the skills could be learned along the way. If we do talk about workers POV on what they should prioritize then getting a degree on which i do say that its always been important. Skills could be learned through various ways but after on going into school and finish it up. You cant have both things together in a single time, you do need to finish then go into another if you do want to hone up your specific skills on which you do find yourself that you do excel into this one.

[Juicyhome]

Skills in 2025 is much better than education, the educational system is poor and it doesn't produce any employable graduates. So it's better to have Skills that can give you daily money than wasting your time in university. Skill should be taken seriously than education, but both are essential in life, but base on your location choose what can get you out of poverty.

Education and skills are very important in life, but choose the one that's  is beneficial at the moment, because its about money and freedom.

[ancafe]

Actually, this can still be fixed by the government through educational institutions in their own country. Because if we look at the education curriculum of several countries, we may all find differences in the curriculum of each country in terms of education so that each government must look at countries that are more advanced in terms of education so that they can implement a better curriculum in education in their own country in the future. Because in terms of building expertise in each student, it really requires special practice so that they can get used to things that are independent and not just good at theory.

If they want, of course they can and the focus of education is no longer only on the issue of curriculum but how to educate students in achieving individual skills. But in fact, this is not done, especially in my country because the government only provides access to learning and does not really focus on developing skills. Skills will be formed over time and students can achieve good skills if given direct practice on the skills they master.

This pattern should be changed because students need to be equipped with the ability to achieve adequate skills so that when they graduate from school they can master several skills to get decent jobs and if this is not done, education is only a curriculum based on theoretical learning.

[jvanname]

Skills in 2025 is much better than education, the educational system is poor and it doesn't produce any employable graduates. So it's better to have Skills that can give you daily money than wasting your time in university. Skill should be taken seriously than education, but both are essential in life, but base on your location choose what can get you out of poverty.

Education and skills are very important in life, but choose the one that's  is beneficial at the moment, because its about money and freedom.

That is what I have been saying. Universities are fucked up pieces of shit. Universities promote violence. I know. I was a professor.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Y3shot]

Skills in 2025 is much better than education, the educational system is poor and it doesn't produce any employable graduates. So it's better to have Skills that can give you daily money than wasting your time in university. Skill should be taken seriously than education, but both are essential in life, but base on your location choose what can get you out of poverty.

Education and skills are very important in life, but choose the one that's  is beneficial at the moment, because its about money and freedom.

I believe skill plays a very good role at this time where we are now but I won't agree to see education as something that has no value in this time we find ourselves.  The importance of education may not be so revealing but even as it is not very visible to may people education is very much important.  Education is beyond learning about a particular subject or field but it is all about good reasoning and good sense of conduct in the society.

[jvanname]

I believe skill plays a very good role at this time where we are now but I won't agree to see education as something that has no value in this time we find ourselves.  The importance of education may not be so revealing but even as it is not very visible to may people education is very much important.  Education is beyond learning about a particular subject or field but it is all about good reasoning and good sense of conduct in the society.

Education has value, but universities no longer deliver any education because they are too busy promoting violence. And they are also going through an extraordinary effort to try to cover up any incident that makes them look bad. This just convinces me that I need to keep on calling them out on their bullshit.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Felicity_Tide]

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Theory without practice is nothing. If a person has learned something in school, become educated, but cant use that knowledge, I would say that his knowledge worth nothing and he has wasted his time. Relying blindly on education only is wrong, because school or university give only basic knowledge. Everything else person learn only when he use his knowledge.

That can sound wrong, but I would go with skill and master it, and dedicate less time to education, because today it is easy to find educated person, than a skilled master.

You are not wrong at all.
The labor market demands for skilled workers, while education act as the icing on the cake. In as much as the society tends to make more emphasis on education and having a good degree, those with skills(especially experience) are what companies look for. There is this saying that changed my mindset about the reality of life and going to school to get a degree.
It goes like this: "school teaches you a lesson and gives you a test, while Life gives you a test, and when you fail that test, it teaches you a lesson. I believe this is the situation so many people have found themselves when they neglect skill even while it is related to their degree.

Like I will always say, nothing can take the place of the other. Both are important, but it is left for everyone to make their choices.

[jvanname]

You are not wrong at all.
The labor market demands for skilled workers, while education act as the icing on the cake. In as much as the society tends to make more emphasis on education and having a good degree, those with skills(especially experience) are what companies look for. There is this saying that changed my mindset about the reality of life and going to school to get a degree.
It goes like this: "school teaches you a lesson and gives you a test, while Life gives you a test, and when you fail that test, it teaches you a lesson. I believe this is the situation so many people have found themselves when they neglect skill even while it is related to their degree.

Like I will always say, nothing can take the place of the other. Both are important, but it is left for everyone to make their choices.

Our society values degrees because our society is fucked up. Think about it. Universities promote violence, and people still value their education. The only reason for this is that most people are bloodthirsty evil people. They are fucking stupid too.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Nothingtodo]

Education and skills are very important in life, but choose the one that's  is beneficial at the moment, because its about money and freedom.

Practical knowledge is more important than formal education because knowledge that can be acquired but will not be useful in real life for income generation is not necessary. Nowadays, even a graduate cannot earn the same amount as a YouTube blogger. It is understood that the world is gradually reducing the income opportunities of educated people.

[Litzki1990]

Both are important, if you go to school, the breadth of knowledge will increase and if you are skilled, you will get that job in the marketplace, that is, both are very important. When you search for a job in a marketplace, but when you go to search for a job, you see that the companies have given job circulars and they are looking for people with degrees as well as skilled people. Now if a person only has skills but if he does not have a degree, then he will not be able to apply for that job. The importance of education is immense, the more a person learns, he can learn something new, if people did not understand physics well, then science would not have emerged so much in the world, and if people did not understand math well, then maybe people would not have been able to fly airplanes or go to space, so everything is very important for people. We should not think about anything except money.

[ancafe]

You are not wrong at all.
The labor market demands for skilled workers, while education act as the icing on the cake. In as much as the society tends to make more emphasis on education and having a good degree, those with skills(especially experience) are what companies look for. There is this saying that changed my mindset about the reality of life and going to school to get a degree.
It goes like this: "school teaches you a lesson and gives you a test, while Life gives you a test, and when you fail that test, it teaches you a lesson. I believe this is the situation so many people have found themselves when they neglect skill even while it is related to their degree.

Like I will always say, nothing can take the place of the other. Both are important, but it is left for everyone to make their choices.

I say the same thing because both are equally important in the process of human life, but in the era of increasingly developing technology, skills are demanded more than high school. If you have a college diploma and no skills, then the only job we can get is in the office sector which generally operates according to applicable regulations. There are many companies that require workers to have good skills and they will be in jobs according to the skills we have.

Education is important to make humans understand life but experience will teach us to reach a much better skill stage. With the skills we have, it will be much easier for us to adapt, especially now that technology is increasingly developing so that skills are needed to be able to adapt.

[G_Besar]

If they want, of course they can and the focus of education is no longer only on the issue of curriculum but how to educate students in achieving individual skills. But in fact, this is not done, especially in my country because the government only provides access to learning and does not really focus on developing skills. Skills will be formed over time and students can achieve good skills if given direct practice on the skills they master.

Maybe we are in the same country because what you said is also what I witnessed myself in many schools in my place now so I also wonder why there is no special curriculum that refers to honing the skills of each student at school. In addition, I also did not find a curriculum on how to make money and how to see opportunities in various markets in schools even though economics is also taught in general in schools, but why are there no special lessons that go directly to making money more independently for all children at school.

In fact, when all students are able to understand how to make money in life, it will also help themselves when they want to continue their education to a higher level without having to burden their own parents through excessive costs. Although this may not be so true for students in developed countries because they do not have to think about the cost of pursuing higher education because the cost is free. But for schools in less developed countries, there must always be money up front when wanting to do something different, including when each student wants to study at a higher level of education.

[cxtreenal]

Education and skills are very important in life, but choose the one that's  is beneficial at the moment, because its about money and freedom.

Practical knowledge is more important than formal education because knowledge that can be acquired but will not be useful in real life for income generation is not necessary. Nowadays, even a graduate cannot earn the same amount as a YouTube blogger. It is understood that the world is gradually reducing the income opportunities of educated people.

As you said, practical knowledge is necessary. After getting educated by reading books, they have to wait until they gain work experience and work for less and less salary because they are not experienced. That is why the education system of every country should be made in such a way that after getting work experience and reading books, they have the right knowledge of every subject and are ready to enter the working life. If an educated person has low income, then he should not be blamed because he may be earning less by chance. Bloggers earn more than educated people but he may not get the same appreciation as an educated person. More money can never be a criterion of qualification.

[Baki202]

Both of us need to have these two activities in ourselves. Because if you are applicable to the job field, then you need to have two things, degree and diploma. Your educational qualification will be considered for employment in a position. When you are accessed by looking at your documents, after that your qualities and skills will be considered. How far you are ahead in terms of skills is considered as a job by the employer. In other words, we need both school and skills.

 

Both are very important because there are places where both of them will play their roles but if you should ask me, I think a skill will be better because of the state in which we have placed ourselves self now and with all this economy, it is better to do with skills because education is doing more harm than good because when you believe so much in skill, you might get lucky to be part of something, but going to school does not guarantee the success because if you look at top people when it comes to wealth, people that have money is not based on school and when you look at it, they even employ those that take school seriously. Some people have made it happen in education, but they are very few, and those who have made it most are the ones who have made themselves problem solvers. They are the ones with the potential weight of success on the road because they have more vision than people who will go to school, and the next thing they will be doing is going to school and graduating, and the next thing will be that they are looking for a job and not thinking outside the box.

[Obari]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

The level of education is failing drastically in this part of the world but that doesn’t mean education isn’t needed and remember, there are two type of education which is the formal and the Informal, so regardless of which, what matters is that, we all get schooled.
As to the area of employment, I would say that, the criteria for employment is dependent on the nature of the job as there are jobs that require skills and others that require your school certificate but it is worth knowing that, both the jobs that require skill and those that require educational qualifications all need years of experience and that’s where the major challenges lies.

[Mehmet69]

By my assumptions, there are strong indications already that we are moving past an era where employers put educational qualifications at the fore front of their requirement for employment into certain positions, some employers now hold personal qualities such as skills possessed by the individual ahead of the school they went to and the degree they graduated with. First, I would like to ask, could this be a reflection of a failing educational system? My second question is that if you happen to be the employer here, which will you consider more, school or skills?

The level of education is failing drastically in this part of the world but that doesn’t mean education isn’t needed and remember, there are two type of education which is the formal and the Informal, so regardless of which, what matters is that, we all get schooled.
As to the area of employment, I would say that, the criteria for employment is dependent on the nature of the job as there are jobs that require skills and others that require your school certificate but it is worth knowing that, both the jobs that require skill and those that require educational qualifications all need years of experience and that’s where the major challenges lies.

You are right. In my opinion, you need formal education to function in the social environment. But if you talk about work, most of the jobs are based on your skills. I don't know why people want to separate the two things. If you are good at something and your educational qualifications are a little less, you will not get respect in the society. But if you are not skilled, no matter how much you are valued in the society, you will not get value in the workplace.