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hen they will have little coverage, and therefore little income. and now while the coverage of a large audience lies about nonkyc casinos began to give people identity verifications, and there are all 4 levels, which is nonsense for the casino, so as not to get into a losing situation for themselves. it seems to me now there are no honest casinos that have not registered for the sake of profiting from people
Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money. I don't want to believe this accusations against xyes as a new no kyc casino and hope that they will respond to this comment to clarify thi gs as time goes on.
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for 3 winning sports bets they decided to give me 4 levels of identity verification here is the chat:https://iimg.su/i/UUcvo0 screenshot of my sports bets : https://iimg.su/i/AggSBd screenshot with my deposit and frozen withdrawal : https://iimg.su/i/0DRz4Yis it wise to play on this site? their quick withdrawals and no ID verification this promotion is over
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Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money.
I wouldn’t call it a scam, tbh, just because they asked for kyc while they claim to be a no-kyc casino. They explained in their last comment that they were forced to do so because some accounts were flagged by their anti-cheat system. This is not the first no-kyc casino that did it. Besides, how can they prevent cheating (mainly multi-accounting) without asking the suspected users to undergo kyc? What I would suggest, though, is more transparency about their kyc policies both in their ToS and wherever they promote their business.
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Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money.
I wouldn’t call it a scam, tbh, just because they asked for kyc while they claim to be a no-kyc casino. They explained in their last comment that they were forced to do so because some accounts were flagged bybtheir anti-cheat system. This is not the first no-casino that did it. Besides, how can they prevent cheating (mainly multi-accounting) without asking the suspected users to undergo kyc? Promising you something that they know from the get-go isn't true, and especially those who use it as one of their primary traits to advertise, (like all of them basically, there isnt a point naming names because it really is all of them that have gained any sort of traction) are scamming their customers. Trying to defend them in any way just makes you complicit in their scummy tactics. If a casino advertises itself as non-KYC but later requires KYC checks (after deposits or when you try to withdraw winnings), that’s considered deceptive and potentially a scam. This tactic lures players with false promises of anonymity, then locks funds behind unexpected KYC demands—a form of bait-and-switch. Even if some casinos later claim compliance reasons, marketing as “non-KYC” while enforcing KYC is misleading. Always document such claims (screenshots, ads), read terms carefully, and report deceptive casinos to relevant authorities (e.g., MGA, UKGC). Protect yourself—avoid casinos with unclear or dishonest KYC policies. On a similar but not direct point too, is that it is genuinely scary how few trustworthy crypto casinos there are. Like, out of the 1000-2000 active crypto casinos, that offer play to more than just one region, there is less than 5 where you can, with good judgement, put hand on heart and honestly say, i trust everything about this casino's operations. This whole thing of protecting casinos really needs to stop. It is quite jarring when you come onto this forum for the first time and see the narratives that are all too common from members. Now, i dont know if people are just naive, willfully ignorant, or they used to / do work in the industry, but bitcointalk is unlike any of the other forums ive been on in this regard.
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What I would suggest, though, is more transparency about their kyc policies both in their ToS and wherever they promote their business.
Thank you, Khaled. Let us clarify what we mean by "No KYC." You may have seen casinos that require players to complete KYC verification regardless of the withdrawal amount. On those platforms, KYC is mandatory. At Xyes.com, we do not require KYC verification for regular players. However, we reserve the right to request KYC from accounts involved in suspicious or arbitrage activities. Our Terms of Service (TOS) clearly state this. Some members are referring to the ANN banner, where we mentioned "No KYC." Please note that providing detailed explanations in banner highlights is not feasible.
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What I would suggest, though, is more transparency about their kyc policies both in their ToS and wherever they promote their business.
Thank you, Khaled. Let us clarify what we mean by "No KYC." You may have seen casinos that require players to complete KYC verification regardless of the withdrawal amount. On those platforms, KYC is mandatory. At Xyes.com, we do not require KYC verification for regular players. However, we reserve the right to request KYC from accounts involved in suspicious or arbitrage activities. Our Terms of Service (TOS) clearly state this. Some members are referring to the ANN banner, where we mentioned "No KYC." Please note that providing detailed explanations in banner highlights is not feasible. what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
Let's not ask stupid questions. Don't you understand what they meant by regular players? The regular players are those who do not violate casino rules. If you are placing bets on the same event on several platforms, that is arbitrage betting. The casinos mostly asked the 3rd party odds provider to check those accounts, freeze them, and investigate their accounts. So you were asked to complete the level four KYC according to the Terms and Conditions that you accepted before signing up. So, what is wrong here? Who said the casino has been open recently? They have been around for over a year. They opened their ANN thread here two weeks ago. That does not mean they are new. According to Xyes, they have over 800K players already. Now tell me, "Are you okay"?
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June 02, 2025, 07:21:33 AM |
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Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money.
I wouldn’t call it a scam, tbh, just because they asked for kyc while they claim to be a no-kyc casino. They explained in their last comment that they were forced to do so because some accounts were flagged bybtheir anti-cheat system. This is not the first no-casino that did it. Besides, how can they prevent cheating (mainly multi-accounting) without asking the suspected users to undergo kyc? Promising you something that they know from the get-go isn't true, and especially those who use it as one of their primary traits to advertise, (like all of them basically, there isnt a point naming names because it really is all of them that have gained any sort of traction) are scamming their customers. Trying to defend them in any way just makes you complicit in their scummy tactics. If a casino advertises itself as non-KYC but later requires KYC checks (after deposits or when you try to withdraw winnings), that’s considered deceptive and potentially a scam. This tactic lures players with false promises of anonymity, then locks funds behind unexpected KYC demands—a form of bait-and-switch. Even if some casinos later claim compliance reasons, marketing as “non-KYC” while enforcing KYC is misleading. Always document such claims (screenshots, ads), read terms carefully, and report deceptive casinos to relevant authorities (e.g., MGA, UKGC). Protect yourself—avoid casinos with unclear or dishonest KYC policies. On a similar but not direct point too, is that it is genuinely scary how few trustworthy crypto casinos there are. Like, out of the 1000-2000 active crypto casinos, that offer play to more than just one region, there is less than 5 where you can, with good judgement, put hand on heart and honestly say, i trust everything about this casino's operations. This whole thing of protecting casinos really needs to stop. It is quite jarring when you come onto this forum for the first time and see the narratives that are all too common from members. Now, i dont know if people are just naive, willfully ignorant, or they used to / do work in the industry, but bitcointalk is unlike any of the other forums ive been on in this regard. Exactly. It literally disgusts me when these lowlifes here keep protecting casinos and trying their best to discourage fellow gamblers when they have a problem with casinos. Happened to me before here too, when i wrote that the bookie confiscated my winnings for no reason, they kept shouting " noone does it for no reason, you must be a cheat" etc and then the casino itself admitted that they didn't have a valid reason at all so i just had a "professional betting style" that's why they stole my winnings.. and you know what, these lowlifes started shouting " see? You had a professional betting style!!" Lmao. I just think these scumbags have ties with the bookies otherwise noone could be so lifeless to hang out here to protect casinos i assume. Probably we ll see some of them here too
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
I don't think that you are unaware that casinos have the right to ask for clarifications if they suspect your account. Any casino that offers total no KYC will go bankrupt because cheaters will take of them. If you are sure you have not violated any provisions of the TOS, I suggest you go through the process, and hopefully, your account will be unfrozen if you are clean. If you are not satisfied with the outcome, there is a section called scam accusation that you can seek redress.
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
~ Who said the casino has been open recently? They have been around for over a year. They opened their ANN thread here two weeks ago. That does not mean they are new. According to Xyes, they have over 800K players already. Now tell me, "Are you okay"? I wouldn’t get upset when people aren’t able to properly inform themselves about the casino or the project in general and just write whatever comes to mind, it’s not worth wasting words. Simply put, if they don’t like playing on that platform, they should just move on to another one, end of story  XYes offers very good bonuses and a wide range of games for its players.So i think it’s a very good choice for everyone.And the KYC-related terms are also fine with me, because as the member mentioned in the post above if you’re clean and haven’t broken any rules, your account will definitely be back in function.
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
Regular players means a player who gambling on that site most of time, maybe daily since the site launched. That is okay if you just made 3 bets on sports and you can placing more bets if you want. I am not regular player on Xyes.com but I play slot games in end of May for some time. I got my winning and withdrew it without a problem and they don't ask me to do KYC. The transaction was smoothly and not taking too long to landing in my wallet. But any casinos, not just Xyes.com can ask you to fill KYC if they found suspicious activities. So that is normal if Xyes.com will ask KYC to you and other gamblers.
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
~ Who said the casino has been open recently? They have been around for over a year. They opened their ANN thread here two weeks ago. That does not mean they are new. According to Xyes, they have over 800K players already. Now tell me, "Are you okay"? I wouldn’t get upset when people aren’t able to properly inform themselves about the casino or the project in general and just write whatever comes to mind, it’s not worth wasting words. Simply put, if they don’t like playing on that platform, they should just move on to another one, end of story  XYes offers very good bonuses and a wide range of games for its players.So i think it’s a very good choice for everyone.And the KYC-related terms are also fine with me, because as the member mentioned in the post above if you’re clean and haven’t broken any rules, your account will definitely be back in function. you just gotta be a shameless mug to rationalize and defend such situation where your assets are frozen for 30 days for no basic reason even after you complete kyc while it takes like 30-45 seconds in every other casino nowadays to complete automated kyc.  yesterday it was up to 15 days.. today 30 days.. probably they ll come up with something new in 45 and these creeps still trying to defend them. bitcointalk gambling forum is just pathetic  they already spend hours to check your documents and verify once you upload them. and once you got the mail that your documents are verified, for whatever reason you just gotta wit 30 business days more.
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you just gotta be a shameless mug to rationalize and defend such situation where your assets are frozen for 30 days for no basic reason even after you complete kyc while it takes like 30-45 seconds in every other casino nowadays to complete automated kyc. You shouldn't gamble at all if you cannot accept the terms and conditions of a casino. It is well known to players that if your account goes under investigation, you will have to allow them the time they need to investigate it. It's not like Xyes is the only platform that is asking for up to 30 days to complete their investigations. Judging from the negative feedback on your profile, you like to spread FUD against the casinos. Didn't you have problems with other casinos as well? If you are a regular gambler who plays on several platforms, you should know that casinos take time to verify your profile and investigate cases. Regular players means a player who gambling on that site most of time, maybe daily since the site launched. That is okay if you just made 3 bets on sports and you can placing more bets if you want. I don't think this is what they meant. The regular players are those who play on the platform without violating the rules and do not try to cheat. Most of us are regular gamblers, except for some of them who violate the rules.
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you just gotta be a shameless mug to rationalize and defend such situation where your assets are frozen for 30 days for no basic reason even after you complete kyc while it takes like 30-45 seconds in every other casino nowadays to complete automated kyc. You shouldn't gamble at all if you cannot accept the terms and conditions of a casino. It is well known to players that if your account goes under investigation, you will have to allow them the time they need to investigate it. It's not like Xyes is the only platform that is asking for up to 30 days to complete their investigations. Judging from the negative feedback on your profile, you like to spread FUD against the casinos. Didn't you have problems with other casinos as well? If you are a regular gambler who plays on several platforms, you should know that casinos take time to verify your profile and investigate cases. Regular players means a player who gambling on that site most of time, maybe daily since the site launched. That is okay if you just made 3 bets on sports and you can placing more bets if you want. I don't think this is what they meant. The regular players are those who play on the platform without violating the rules and do not try to cheat. Most of us are regular gamblers, except for some of them who violate the rules. sure i had problem before with another casino too, as i mentioned above somewhere. and some shameless casino-suckers as yourself tried to blame me too, while finally even the casino themselves had to admit they confiscated my funds for no reason at all. so i wouldnt care less about my feedback here given by some random lifeless mugs like you
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what regular players? you opened recently. what other violations of the rules? i made 3 bets on sports, are you okay?
Let's not ask stupid questions. Don't you understand what they meant by regular players? The regular players are those who do not violate casino rules. If you are placing bets on the same event on several platforms, that is arbitrage betting. The casinos mostly asked the 3rd party odds provider to check those accounts, freeze them, and investigate their accounts. So you were asked to complete the level four KYC according to the Terms and Conditions that you accepted before signing up. So, what is wrong here? Who said the casino has been open recently? They have been around for over a year. They opened their ANN thread here two weeks ago. That does not mean they are new. According to Xyes, they have over 800K players already. Now tell me, "Are you okay"? what 800 thousand players? what are you talking about? the peak was about 8 thousand players in April after the publication on the forums. before that they never had so many visits and it seems to me that the one year of active play is all a lie
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sure i had problem before with another casino too, as i mentioned above somewhere. and some shameless casino-suckers as yourself tried to blame me too, while finally even the casino themselves had to admit they confiscated my funds for no reason at all. so i wouldnt care less about my feedback here given by some random lifeless mugs like you
Congrats! You earned another negative feedback for spreading FUD in the casino thread. The question is simple: Didn't you accept the TOS before you signed up for the casinos? If you have to follow their rules. Judging from your behaviour, I am kinda sure you are an abuser with multiple alternative accounts who want to abuse the casino with either a bonus, or with arbitrage activities. There is no reason to spread FUD when your account is under investigation and the result is unknown. Your behaviour is a sign that you fear getting banned when the casino comes up with an investigation result. what 800 thousand players? what are you talking about? the peak was about 8 thousand players in April after the publication on the forums. before that they never had so many visits and it seems to me that the one year of active play is all a lie
You are just proving yourself to be a fool. What if the casino never comes to this forum? Does that mean they never operated their business? They are new to this forum but not to the casino business.
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sure i had problem before with another casino too, as i mentioned above somewhere. and some shameless casino-suckers as yourself tried to blame me too, while finally even the casino themselves had to admit they confiscated my funds for no reason at all. so i wouldnt care less about my feedback here given by some random lifeless mugs like you
Congrats! You earned another negative feedback for spreading FUD in the casino thread. The question is simple: Didn't you accept the TOS before you signed up for the casinos? If you have to follow their rules. Judging from your behaviour, I am kinda sure you are an abuser with multiple alternative accounts who want to abuse the casino with either a bonus, or with arbitrage activities. There is no reason to spread FUD when your account is under investigation and the result is unknown. Your behaviour is a sign that you fear getting banned when the casino comes up with an investigation result. what 800 thousand players? what are you talking about? the peak was about 8 thousand players in April after the publication on the forums. before that they never had so many visits and it seems to me that the one year of active play is all a lie
You are just proving yourself to be a fool. What if the casino never comes to this forum? Does that mean they never operated their business? They are new to this forum but not to the casino business. you are seriously retarded if you still think that i abused bonuses or anything else even after i shared all my account activities and bet history. but on the other hand, you believe that they have 800k members so yea , you are kinda retarded anyway and i said said before, only lifeless mugs like yourself cares about some negative feedback on an irrelevant online forum ,so have yours lol
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You are just proving yourself to be a fool. What if the casino never comes to this forum? Does that mean they never operated their business? They are new to this forum but not to the casino business.
you are an idiot, I told you that there are no such numbers, the sites have confirmed that you are a liar, the visit tracker says the opposite of your words, I don't know what business it is of yours to sit here and defend the casino, but everything you are writing now is nonsense. Their social networks are not developed, there is no communication there, this is a dead casino, therefore it has been operating for a short time, and you are a finished bot who does not know what he is writing
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Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money.
I wouldn’t call it a scam, tbh, just because they asked for kyc while they claim to be a no-kyc casino. They explained in their last comment that they were forced to do so because some accounts were flagged bybtheir anti-cheat system. This is not the first no-casino that did it. Besides, how can they prevent cheating (mainly multi-accounting) without asking the suspected users to undergo kyc? Promising you something that they know from the get-go isn't true, and especially those who use it as one of their primary traits to advertise, (like all of them basically, there isnt a point naming names because it really is all of them that have gained any sort of traction) are scamming their customers. Trying to defend them in any way just makes you complicit in their scummy tactics. If a casino advertises itself as non-KYC but later requires KYC checks (after deposits or when you try to withdraw winnings), that’s considered deceptive and potentially a scam. This tactic lures players with false promises of anonymity, then locks funds behind unexpected KYC demands—a form of bait-and-switch. Even if some casinos later claim compliance reasons, marketing as “non-KYC” while enforcing KYC is misleading. Always document such claims (screenshots, ads), read terms carefully, and report deceptive casinos to relevant authorities (e.g., MGA, UKGC). Protect yourself—avoid casinos with unclear or dishonest KYC policies. On a similar but not direct point too, is that it is genuinely scary how few trustworthy crypto casinos there are. Like, out of the 1000-2000 active crypto casinos, that offer play to more than just one region, there is less than 5 where you can, with good judgement, put hand on heart and honestly say, i trust everything about this casino's operations. This whole thing of protecting casinos really needs to stop. It is quite jarring when you come onto this forum for the first time and see the narratives that are all too common from members. Now, i dont know if people are just naive, willfully ignorant, or they used to / do work in the industry, but bitcointalk is unlike any of the other forums ive been on in this regard. Exactly. It literally disgusts me when these lowlifes here keep protecting casinos and trying their best to discourage fellow gamblers when they have a problem with casinos. Happened to me before here too, when i wrote that the bookie confiscated my winnings for no reason, they kept shouting " noone does it for no reason, you must be a cheat" etc and then the casino itself admitted that they didn't have a valid reason at all so i just had a "professional betting style" that's why they stole my winnings.. and you know what, these lowlifes started shouting " see? You had a professional betting style!!" Lmao. I just think these scumbags have ties with the bookies otherwise noone could be so lifeless to hang out here to protect casinos i assume. Probably we ll see some of them here too well, as i predicted, it never takes too much for some lifeless guy to appear and defend casinos and blame you for bonus abuse or multiples accounts while you never had a single penny of bonus anywhere ever lmao
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Wird to see that a casino that promote itself as a no kyc casino will ask for verifications up to level three, if that is true them I will say is really a scam attempt for a casino to ask for such level of verification after winning good amount of money.
I don't want to believe this accusations against xyes as a new no kyc casino and hope that they will respond to this comment to clarify thi gs as time goes on.
Lets not be too fast in concluding, this is a requirement that was made to be able to combat at any suspicious attempt on their network or even at the users themselves, as we know how accounts were being hacked and also how some could be suspected for cheats as the case maybe, but having them explained the reason for it does not mean everyone is applicable to this. Also, this is more of a level upgrade and we have to be specific on the KYC information required before concluding, they don't have it on the initial level and no deposit or withdrawal kyc embargo, what else do we think.
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