[Boxing] Mario Barrios vs Manny Pacquiao WBC Welterweight Title - July 19

[hyudien]

Is this true? I have to tell my dad soon because he is a big fan of Pacman. Maybe Pacman will not show a fight like in the past but hearing he will return to the ring makes me nostalgic with my dad.   Unfortunately the preparation to fight barrios is quite short, only 2 months, hopefully Manny can get back to fitness in that short time and maybe this is the last match before he really hangs up his boxing gloves.

[TopTort777]

What I can say here, Mario Barrios is far young compared to Manny Pacquiao, hungry and powerful, but Manny Pacquiao's experience, speed, and ring IQ make this young guy have difficulty to win.

Check out Pacmans last exhibition fight. His speed, experience and ring iq has gone. We will see the shadow of Pacman in this fight. You cant trick age. If Barrios wasnt a professional boxer, but a master in other martial art, then Pacman would have chances to win. But this time his best would be to go full distance and not be KOed.

P.S. Still dont get what will Barrios get if he win this. There is no rating or belt on stake.

According to reports, Mario Barrios will defend his WBC welterweight belt against Manny. The stakes of this fight are high, but I believe the purse won't significantly increase compared to when Manny was younger and his opponents received hefty paychecks.

I agree. The consolation for Pacman is to finish the fight and stay healthy, ensuring nothing untoward happens to him. Given his reflexes aren't as quick anymore, I expect him to be hit more this time.

Boxing behind the scenes always amazed me. I am sure that there are list of welterweights who deserve a title fight, and few guys who are obligatory contenders. Instead WBC organization gave title fight for Pacman, who was inactive on pro ring for years. What will be if Pacman wins? Is it a shady scheme how to pass belt to a specific fighter with Pacman win-Pacman lose scheme? This is so shady. If anyone was planning to have a title fight, now he has to wait half a year more.

[Dave1]

What I can say here, Mario Barrios is far young compared to Manny Pacquiao, hungry and powerful, but Manny Pacquiao's experience, speed, and ring IQ make this young guy have difficulty to win.

Check out Pacmans last exhibition fight. His speed, experience and ring iq has gone. We will see the shadow of Pacman in this fight. You cant trick age. If Barrios wasnt a professional boxer, but a master in other martial art, then Pacman would have chances to win. But this time his best would be to go full distance and not be KOed.

P.S. Still dont get what will Barrios get if he win this. There is no rating or belt on stake.

According to reports, Mario Barrios will defend his WBC welterweight belt against Manny. The stakes of this fight are high, but I believe the purse won't significantly increase compared to when Manny was younger and his opponents received hefty paychecks.

I agree. The consolation for Pacman is to finish the fight and stay healthy, ensuring nothing untoward happens to him. Given his reflexes aren't as quick anymore, I expect him to be hit more this time.

Boxing behind the scenes always amazed me. I am sure that there are list of welterweights who deserve a title fight, and few guys who are obligatory contenders. Instead WBC organization gave title fight for Pacman, who was inactive on pro ring for years. What will be if Pacman wins? Is it a shady scheme how to pass belt to a specific fighter with Pacman win-Pacman lose scheme? This is so shady. If anyone was planning to have a title fight, now he has to wait half a year more.

He was given this privilege obviously, but I'm not shock at all. Pacquiao had held multiple WBC belts along his way in becoming a 8 division champ. And with that the Sulaiman's are grateful for having a champion in Manny in their organization.

Sure there are controversial here as he bypass along of Barrios mandatory. But I think whoever wins here, the mandatory will have a crack on the champion next. And if Manny wins, then this is going to be big for those mandatories as it's a big money involved fighting Manny. So it's a win win for them.

[joeperry]

He's already retired last 2021 after his match against Urgas where he losses and I think he has some exhibition match after where one of his match he's losing and he's trying to come back, I do support him and I've seen that he's still capable and his speed and power is still there.

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

[freedomgo]

He's already retired last 2021 after his match against Urgas where he losses and I think he has some exhibition match after where one of his match he's losing and he's trying to come back, I do support him and I've seen that he's still capable and his speed and power is still there.

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

Just a heads-up: it’s “Ugas,” not “Urgas.” Manny did lose to Ugas, and Barrios beat Ugas, so if Manny can beat Barrios, it’s basically like he beat Ugas on rewind. He did have an excuse, though,  claimed foot trouble (probably from over-training ). Now it’s time for Pac to prove he still has pop in his feet, win that fight, and slap the belt back on.

As for Manny’s exhibition matches, I don’t think he’s ever lost one as most aren’t scored anyway, so there’s no official winner to complain about.

[Taskford]

He's already retired last 2021 after his match against Urgas where he losses and I think he has some exhibition match after where one of his match he's losing and he's trying to come back, I do support him and I've seen that he's still capable and his speed and power is still there.

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

Just a heads-up: it’s “Ugas,” not “Urgas.” Manny did lose to Ugas, and Barrios beat Ugas, so if Manny can beat Barrios, it’s basically like he beat Ugas on rewind. He did have an excuse, though,  claimed foot trouble (probably from over-training ). Now it’s time for Pac to prove he still has pop in his feet, win that fight, and slap the belt back on.

As for Manny’s exhibition matches, I don’t think he’s ever lost one as most aren’t scored anyway, so there’s no official winner to complain about.

Nope that's not how it works. Situation is different between those bout and result may came out different on some conditions.

But its still interesting to see if Pacquaio would able to beat Barrios since somehow there would be a what if Ugas if Pacquiao would fight again maybe by that time we can see Pacquaio wins against Ugas.

Also Pacquaio vs Barrios is not an exhibition fight. This is professional fight which their win or lose will be recorded.

[robelneo]

The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.

I will base it on the fighter's last fight, as this is the best gauge of their abilities in this scenario. Barrios won the title by beating Ugas, and Ugas is the guy who beat Pacquiao to win the crown, and Pacquiao's last fight against an unknown Japanese opponent shows signs of slowness if he cannot dominate an unknown fighter, and it's only an exhibition.
We will not see a Pacquiao as fast and strong as we saw 15 years ago. This is a Pacquiao that is just trying to stay, and not the one that deserves to keep on fighting.

[freedomgo]

He's already retired last 2021 after his match against Urgas where he losses and I think he has some exhibition match after where one of his match he's losing and he's trying to come back, I do support him and I've seen that he's still capable and his speed and power is still there.

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

Just a heads-up: it’s “Ugas,” not “Urgas.” Manny did lose to Ugas, and Barrios beat Ugas, so if Manny can beat Barrios, it’s basically like he beat Ugas on rewind. He did have an excuse, though,  claimed foot trouble (probably from over-training ). Now it’s time for Pac to prove he still has pop in his feet, win that fight, and slap the belt back on.

As for Manny’s exhibition matches, I don’t think he’s ever lost one as most aren’t scored anyway, so there’s no official winner to complain about.

Nope that's not how it works. Situation is different between those bout and result may came out different on some conditions.

But its still interesting to see if Pacquaio would able to beat Barrios since somehow there would be a what if Ugas if Pacquiao would fight again maybe by that time we can see Pacquaio wins against Ugas.

Different opponent, different expectations, right? Yeah, Pacman's a bit older now, probably needs more ice packs than punches thrown these days but I just can't delete from my brain how amazing he used to be in the ring. So even if his chances might be slimmer, I'm still cheering and hoping he'll pull off another legendary win and become champion again.

Heck, if there were betting odds available now, I'd happily throw down some money.

Also Pacquaio vs Barrios is not an exhibition fight. This is professional fight which their win or lose will be recorded.

I'm aware of that, but know that my respond about this was on the post of joeperry.

[Cointxz]

Is this true? I have to tell my dad soon because he is a big fan of Pacman.

This is true. It’s confirmed recently and there’s already the date for the upcoming match.

You can view here: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13372100/manny-pacquiao-confirms-boxing-return-in-world-title-fight-against-mario-barrios

Maybe Pacman will not show a fight like in the past but hearing he will return to the ring makes me nostalgic with my dad.   Unfortunately the preparation to fight barrios is quite short, only 2 months, hopefully Manny can get back to fitness in that short time and maybe this is the last match before he really hangs up his boxing gloves.

Pacman being Pacman is what we are paying to watch the fight. There’s already a premium on his name regardless to the decrease of his fighting strength.

[coin-investor]

...  Unfortunately the preparation to fight barrios is quite short, only 2 months, hopefully Manny can get back to fitness in that short time and maybe this is the last match before he really hangs up his boxing gloves.

If he wins, I doubt if he will hang up his gloves; it will just inflate his ego to want to fight more. If he loses and it's a close fight, there is still a possibility that he will want to fight.

Manny will not stop until he receives a severe beating that will make him realize his body cannot withstand it. Manny should have stopped after the Ugas fight; he looked bad in the Ugas fight, even in the exhibition, he looked bad.

My only wish is that he will not take a severe beating; Barrios is young and at the height of his power, and Manny may not keep up with Barrios' power because he is past his prime.

[Mahanton]

That's what happens to you if you run for president and lose and 3 years later run for senator and lose again. You need to climb the ring once more despite your age.

Good for him, he's a respected legend. He's immediately given a championship fight against a relatively easy opponent. It's probably easier for him to beat Barrios than win a senate seat at this point in time.

But I think he doesn't have much time, does he? He's got less than 2 months preparation. Aside from his age, the tiring 3-month campaign had just ended. Moreover, he lost. I think he needs a little time to rest and relax physically and emotionally before starting to get into the best fighting shape once more.

Regardless, I wish him luck.

I wouldnt say that it would be that an easy opponent. Yes, he's a legend but age do definitely take a toll on him when it comes to boxing performance but since we haven't seen yet on this comeback then he might be still be able to show off some good fight despite of his age. In regarding about his running for Presidency and Senator failure then pretty sure that it had cost him tons of money with that on which we do know that campaigning will definitely be that needing up that serious amount and thats why you cant be able to stop people to make them say that he's now going back into boxing scene again to patch up on what he had lost.
Well, this is own decision and since its his body then there's nothing we can do about it if he would be deciding to go back despite of being retired. I do agree into some words that its better that he should be reconsidering on having those exhibition matches rather than on going back into official fights. The best thing when you are fighting with corresponding weight division is that you wont be able to face up that bigger and heavier opponents on which you can potentially be able to face up on exhibition matches. We've seen him fight with those exhibition matches that he fought and turned out that he's that not that invincible when it comes on taking up some hits just like with that against Anpo fight.

[aioc]

Pacman being Pacman is what we are paying to watch the fight. There’s already a premium on his name regardless to the decrease of his fighting strength.

I'm going to watch it out of curiosity, but I'm not risking a bet, I want to know if I will have a big surprise or my opinion is correct that Manny doesn't have it anymore.
His last two fights have proven that my opinion was correct: Manny is fading. For the third time, it will become a fact, not an opinion, if Barrios beats him.
I'm just hoping that Manny can put up a fight, and at the same time, he will finally realize that it's time to hang up his gloves.

[Russlenat]

Pacman being Pacman is what we are paying to watch the fight. There’s already a premium on his name regardless to the decrease of his fighting strength.

I'm going to watch it out of curiosity, but I'm not risking a bet, I want to know if I will have a big surprise or my opinion is correct that Manny doesn't have it anymore.
His last two fights have proven that my opinion was correct: Manny is fading. For the third time, it will become a fact, not an opinion, if Barrios beats him.
I'm just hoping that Manny can put up a fight, and at the same time, he will finally realize that it's time to hang up his gloves.

Maybe it ends in a knockout like what happened to Manny against Marquez. That might be the kind of wake-up call that tells himself that he shouldn't came back. ButI don’t want to jump the gun. It’s Manny’s body, and he knows it better than anyone else. If he feels he’s still got it, then who are we to say no?

So maybe let’s treat this like a championship bout, two great boxers going at it, both with armies of fans backing them up. And it’s totally fine if you’re not confident enough to place a bet. That’s your money, your call. But me? I’m not missing this for anything. Win or lose, I’m in because when Manny fights, the world watches.

[cryptoaddictchie]

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

This is the confusion I have sometimes when some players match with other and they got a different outcome. Like these, it seems there some strategies with different side. Imagine losing to an opponent that beat by your next opponent seems unsettled. But Pacman who won against Thurman who which beat his next opponent is. Sometimes its hard to compare with this kind of result but definitely this is interesting match. Im already scanning some of Barrios fight to see his caliber and match it up with Pacman.

[Darker45]

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

This is the confusion I have sometimes when some players match with other and they got a different outcome. Like these, it seems there some strategies with different side. Imagine losing to an opponent that beat by your next opponent seems unsettled. But Pacman who won against Thurman who which beat his next opponent is. Sometimes its hard to compare with this kind of result but definitely this is interesting match. Im already scanning some of Barrios fight to see his caliber and match it up with Pacman.

For me, Barrios isn't really a spectacular fighter. He's not a monster inside the ring. An old Manny and his fans shouldn't be worried a lot about his safety. Barrios isn't a knockout puncher. He doesn't have exceptional speed either, nor does he have amazing footwork ang movements.

He'd be eaten alive by Manny during his peak. But considering he's approaching 50, if he loses, it would certainly be on a unanimous decision. Pacquiao isn't anymore the volume puncher that he used to be. Mario might outpoint him.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

This is interesting match as Barrios wins against Urgas (Where Manny losses to) but Barrios losses to Thurman which Manny beats.

This is the confusion I have sometimes when some players match with other and they got a different outcome. Like these, it seems there some strategies with different side. Imagine losing to an opponent that beat by your next opponent seems unsettled. But Pacman who won against Thurman who which beat his next opponent is. Sometimes its hard to compare with this kind of result but definitely this is interesting match. Im already scanning some of Barrios fight to see his caliber and match it up with Pacman.

For me, Barrios isn't really a spectacular fighter. He's not a monster inside the ring. An old Manny and his fans shouldn't be worried a lot about his safety. Barrios isn't a knockout puncher. He doesn't have exceptional speed either, nor does he have amazing footwork ang movements.

I think that is one reason why they chooses to fight Barrios here. As you have describe him, he is not that of a big puncher and we can say that he is just about average and he is just lucky that he is in the era wherein the welterweight is sort of weak division.

He'd be eaten alive by Manny during his peak. But considering he's approaching 50, if he loses, it would certainly be on a unanimous decision. Pacquiao isn't anymore the volume puncher that he used to be. Mario might outpoint him.

He will be like a punching bag if this version of Barrios fought a prime Manny Pacquiao. The hand speed, the angles and the volume will be enough for Mario. But that's hypothetical though, we might not see this fight. But the good thing is that even if Manny is no longer in his prime, this could still be as good as what we can preview if they fought in their best versions years ago.

[bbc.reporter]

What I can say here, Mario Barrios is far young compared to Manny Pacquiao, hungry and powerful, but Manny Pacquiao's experience, speed, and ring IQ make this young guy have difficulty to win.

Check out Pacmans last exhibition fight. His speed, experience and ring iq has gone. We will see the shadow of Pacman in this fight. You cant trick age. If Barrios wasnt a professional boxer, but a master in other martial art, then Pacman would have chances to win. But this time his best would be to go full distance and not be KOed.

P.S. Still dont get what will Barrios get if he win this. There is no rating or belt on stake.

According to reports, Mario Barrios will defend his WBC welterweight belt against Manny. The stakes of this fight are high, but I believe the purse won't significantly increase compared to when Manny was younger and his opponents received hefty paychecks.

I agree. The consolation for Pacman is to finish the fight and stay healthy, ensuring nothing untoward happens to him. Given his reflexes aren't as quick anymore, I expect him to be hit more this time.

Boxing behind the scenes always amazed me. I am sure that there are list of welterweights who deserve a title fight, and few guys who are obligatory contenders. Instead WBC organization gave title fight for Pacman, who was inactive on pro ring for years. What will be if Pacman wins? Is it a shady scheme how to pass belt to a specific fighter with Pacman win-Pacman lose scheme? This is so shady. If anyone was planning to have a title fight, now he has to wait half a year more.

Similar to the UFC, there will be an interim championship and if the champion does not fight on an agreed amount of time, the championship will be given to the interim champion.

On shadiness, this can be argued. However, this is also Manny Pacman Pacquiao who wants to fight again. This humble boxer has brought much money and attention to the sport. How can the promoters and the WBC ignore this boxer?

[Yaunfitda]

What I can say here, Mario Barrios is far young compared to Manny Pacquiao, hungry and powerful, but Manny Pacquiao's experience, speed, and ring IQ make this young guy have difficulty to win.

Check out Pacmans last exhibition fight. His speed, experience and ring iq has gone. We will see the shadow of Pacman in this fight. You cant trick age. If Barrios wasnt a professional boxer, but a master in other martial art, then Pacman would have chances to win. But this time his best would be to go full distance and not be KOed.

P.S. Still dont get what will Barrios get if he win this. There is no rating or belt on stake.

According to reports, Mario Barrios will defend his WBC welterweight belt against Manny. The stakes of this fight are high, but I believe the purse won't significantly increase compared to when Manny was younger and his opponents received hefty paychecks.

I agree. The consolation for Pacman is to finish the fight and stay healthy, ensuring nothing untoward happens to him. Given his reflexes aren't as quick anymore, I expect him to be hit more this time.

Boxing behind the scenes always amazed me. I am sure that there are list of welterweights who deserve a title fight, and few guys who are obligatory contenders. Instead WBC organization gave title fight for Pacman, who was inactive on pro ring for years. What will be if Pacman wins? Is it a shady scheme how to pass belt to a specific fighter with Pacman win-Pacman lose scheme? This is so shady. If anyone was planning to have a title fight, now he has to wait half a year more.

Similar to the UFC, there will be an interim championship and if the champion does not fight on an agreed amount of time, the championship will be given to the interim champion.

And if I remember correctly, Manny has given another belt by the WBC as well, like Diamond Belt or something, for being their champion. So WBC is pro-Manny if we can say that, similar to how they handled the current cash cow in their fellow Mexican Canelo Alvarez.

On shadiness, this can be argued. However, this is also Manny Pacman Pacquiao who wants to fight again. This humble boxer has brought much money and attention to the sport. How can the promoters and the WBC ignore this boxer?

We can all agree that Manny has still the drawing power in boxing even if he is out for many years. He has proven it already, even in his exhibition fights, fans are still curious as how Manny is and if he still got that power and speed. And here, for sure that will be one of the reasons why we are going to buy the ticket even if it is very expensive so that we can witnessed the legend in Pacman. And for sure, there are a lot of fans wishing Manny will win again and became a champion so that we can still see him fight again.

[TopTort777]

On shadiness, this can be argued. However, this is also Manny Pacman Pacquiao who wants to fight again. This humble boxer has brought much money and attention to the sport. How can the promoters and the WBC ignore this boxer?

If the money is the only thing on the stake, then why WBC and Barrios? Pacmans manager should have bend over and try to organize a fight against a much bigger star. Mayweather earn for an exhibition fight, where there is zero danger for him and his legacy millions. Why cant Pacman follow Mayweather path? There are plenty of easy money for Pacman, yet instead he choices to challenge himself at such age. Make a fight against Canelo and retire finally with lots of $$$ in pocket.

[viljy]

Boxing behind the scenes always amazed me. I am sure that there are list of welterweights who deserve a title fight, and few guys who are obligatory contenders. Instead WBC organization gave title fight for Pacman, who was inactive on pro ring for years. What will be if Pacman wins? Is it a shady scheme how to pass belt to a specific fighter with Pacman win-Pacman lose scheme? This is so shady. If anyone was planning to have a title fight, now he has to wait half a year more.

For some reason, I got a similar impression. It all looks a bit strange, primarily because of the age of course. Moreover, this is not an exhibition fight, which would be understandable, and there would be no questions. Of course, you can watch it and even bet, of course, on old Manny, because it's more interesting that way. I also suspect that this fight is only the first part of some kind of belt scheme. In any case, time will tell, especially since there are a couple of months left to wait.