[Boxing] Mario Barrios vs Manny Pacquiao WBC Welterweight Title - July 19

[Sanitough]

The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.

Of those two things, one must happen on the said day. It's just a matter of time before your question is answered. In all honesty, I want Manny Pacquiao to win that bout; even though I think he should've continued to remain retired out of boxing so he could squarely face his political ambition. I'm excited, just like I did in Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk fight. I can't wait for July.

We’re all excited, but we shouldn’t forget that Manny might not be the same fighter anymore because of his age. I mean, how many champions out there are still fighting at 45 years old? Maybe one or two at most.

So while I know this will be fun to watch, personally, I don’t expect Manny to win or take the belt. I’m just here to enjoy the fight, not to expect a miracle.

[btc_angela]

It's Manny started his training, but it looks like he is old already and there are a lot of huffing from what I observed. Although there are a lot of weeks ahead of this fight, so maybe this is just a start for him.

It could be, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get to his peak condition within the 7 weeks he has before the fight, even if he goes through intense training, I mean, the guy has been retired for 4 years, and his age is a big factor too. that being said, I am still excited and curious how this fight will go. It would be incredible to see if Pacquiao manages to beat Barrios.

And it looks like they didn't take into account his age and condition isn't it. Before during his prime I remember Freddie Roach trained him in 8 weeks and by the time he entered the ring, he is already in his peaked that's why Manny is brutal that time.

But today, it's very different, again he is old and that body and bones are not the same anymore. He could have gotten some training back in the Philippines, but not sure as he has to campaign as well. And seeing his face and the reaction of his body, it will really be very hard for him to reach his peak condition within just 7 weeks.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.

Of those two things, one must happen on the said day. It's just a matter of time before your question is answered. In all honesty, I want Manny Pacquiao to win that bout; even though I think he should've continued to remain retired out of boxing so he could squarely face his political ambition. I'm excited, just like I did in Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk fight. I can't wait for July.

We’re all excited, but we shouldn’t forget that Manny might not be the same fighter anymore because of his age. I mean, how many champions out there are still fighting at 45 years old? Maybe one or two at most.

So while I know this will be fun to watch, personally, I don’t expect Manny to win or take the belt. I’m just here to enjoy the fight, not to expect a miracle.

Pacquiao can be slower than his prime, Manny might not srtong than before.
but, we can expect manny can post the speed with Mario, he can dig in the force he still have.

I want manny to win for the pride of the country. I want manny to show that he ca still do it.
If there will be a chance, i want manny to destry Inoue to show what is the true champion is.

[bbc.reporter]

This is for real really as the betting odds are out..

https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/opening-manny-pacquiao-vs-mario-barrios-betting-odds-say-it-all

DraftKings released its opening odds for Pacquiao vs Barrios, and it has the soon-to-be Hall of Famer as a significant underdog at +340. Barrios is a -500 favorite heading into the second defense of his title.

Pacman is a +340 underdog, that’s honestly pretty tempting. I might put a small bet on him, just to show my support.

You know how it is, it’s always more fun to watch the fight when you’ve got a little something riding on it.
So of course, Manny can count on my bet.

I will bet on Pacman on those odds. I reckon the oddsmakers gave him similar odds or it might be higher than +340 when Pacman fought Keith Thurman. This was Keith Thurman who is a very much better boxer than Mario Barrios, I reckon.

Also, this Pacman with a rest of nearly 4 years from boxing is a different type of boxer when he returns. He has given himself much rest and this is time to return the eye of the tiger!

[Patikno]

As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.

[bisdak40]

As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.

You are mistaken, mate. Manny is the challenger here; he will be challenging Mario Barrios for the WBC welterweight belt, as Barrios is the current champion. I agree that Manny is old and this fight might pose a risk to his health, but Barrios isn't a dangerous opponent—his talent level is below that of Keith Thurman. Although I have a feeling Manny might lose this fight due to diminished speed and power, I hope it will be competitive throughout.

[TravelMug]

As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.

I don't think that you have followed Manny or boxing in general, sorry to burst the bubble for you. Yes, Manny has retired already, entered the Philippine politics become a Senator. And with that, he is not the champion here but it was Mario Barrios.

He is old, nobody can't deny that, but maybe he has one good fight left even at 46 years old. Manny is one of a kind, a freak if we can call him that. And probably this is the reason why he wants to comeback and defy Father time.

And Pacquiao is a big underdog, 3:1 currently.

[Taskford]

As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.

I don't think that you have followed Manny or boxing in general, sorry to burst the bubble for you. Yes, Manny has retired already, entered the Philippine politics become a Senator. And with that, he is not the champion here but it was Mario Barrios.

He is old, nobody can't deny that, but maybe he has one good fight left even at 46 years old. Manny is one of a kind, a freak if we can call him that. And probably this is the reason why he wants to comeback and defy Father time.

And Pacquiao is a big underdog, 3:1 currently.

Exactly because Barrios is the defending champion in this fight. Barrios need to defend his WBC welterweight title against Pacquaio.

If it happens that Pacquaio would able to beat Barrios this will be a huge comeback for the legend. But we can't also deny that many fans doubt on the current capability of Pacquaio. Yeah his legend or a great fighter. But the boxing scene has been change and he's been retired since 2021.

So provably that there's rusty movement on his side knowing he's also an aged fighter. We don't know yet if he can still give a good fight and we may know that if he can defeat Barrios in this match. Provably Manny would chase more fights after this if he win and maybe consider to retire if he lose.

[TopTort777]

Lets suppose Pacquiao wins, but then what? He will stay and defend WBC title? By that time he will be close to 47. I think nobody at such age will be a match for younger and hungry contender. Making it Pacman to fight for a belt which he will vacant or lose anyway. I dont see perspectives for him if he continues to box on professional level, the same as I dont see him winning that fight.

Oh, come on guys. Pacman came up with the idea that on the verge of finally ending his career he needs one more challenge and we start dreaming how one of our favourite boxers wins. Miracles dont happen. The best result for this fight is Pacman losing UD or split.

[freedomgo]

what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

[Botnake]

what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

Love hearing that from a boxer Pacman once beat, and a great promoter too. De La Hoya really knows Pacquiao’s power, since it was Pacman who basically ended his boxing career.

Now, even though Pacquiao is already up there in age, this fight is still a real test for Barrios, who isn’t quite at the same level as other top champions. If he manages to beat Pacman, it’ll definitely boost his name and popularity.

It’s also interesting to look at how things connect.. Barrios lost to Keith Thurman, who Pacquiao beat, while Barrios beat Ugas, the same guy who beat Pacquiao. So it’s like a full circle. Whoever wins this fight makes a strong case for being the best among them.

[ultrloa]

what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

Love hearing that from a boxer Pacman once beat, and a great promoter too. De La Hoya really knows Pacquiao’s power, since it was Pacman who basically ended his boxing career.

Now, even though Pacquiao is already up there in age, this fight is still a real test for Barrios, who isn’t quite at the same level as other top champions. If he manages to beat Pacman, it’ll definitely boost his name and popularity.

It’s also interesting to look at how things connect.. Barrios lost to Keith Thurman, who Pacquiao beat, while Barrios beat Ugas, the same guy who beat Pacquiao. So it’s like a full circle. Whoever wins this fight makes a strong case for being the best among them.

That somehow shows how great the recognition they show from their fellow legend and since he experience to taste the fist of Pacquaio he could really observe that Pacquaio still capable to defeat a young Barrios on their upcoming fight.

The name of Pacquaio is already cemented on boxing scene and for sure that everybody know how great he is when Pacquaio still in his prime. But in this fight we can see that Barrios is favored to win this match and Pacman is the underdog of this fight see this odds https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/mario-barrios-v-manny-pacquiao with this I'm thinking about betting for Pacquaio since it seems that this is promising comeback fight of Pacquaio.

[btc_angela]

what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

Don't believed everything Oscar said though, he has been in the social media scene now, just like his protegee is Ryan Garcia. So obviously when he opens his mouth, he wants to attract everyone's attention here.

Not saying that Manny can't win or not, but I would take everything with a grain of salt what Oscar has to say here. Manny is the hype right now and everyone talks about his big comeback fight. But there could be some former boxers or current boxers that have their opinion and it might be right or wrong though.

[gunhell16]

ctto

Yes, you heard it right, Pacman is back.
This fight will be held on July 19 as what the reports say and as a matter of fact, Pacman is already in California to start his training at the Wild Card Gym of coach Freddie Roach.

The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.

Your though guys?
@bbc.reporter need your inputs on this one hehe.

I thought when I first read that Paquiao would fight Mario bro's, but it turned out that it was Mario barrios hehe.. Anyway back in the topic, At Manny Paquiao's age now, I don't think he can still do the performances he showed in the past few years of his fights.

Even though we are from the same race, I doubt he will win there, his stand is definitely different now compared to before his fights because Paquiao is also old,
though I know that age is not the criterion but his stability, stamina and skills I don't think he can still pull it off 100% in the actual ring battle itself.

[Japinat]

I thought when I first read that Paquiao would fight Mario bro's, but it turned out that it was Mario barrios hehe.. Anyway back in the topic, At Manny Paquiao's age now, I don't think he can still do the performances he showed in the past few years of his fights.

Even though we are from the same race, I doubt he will win there, his stand is definitely different now compared to before his fights because Paquiao is also old,
though I know that age is not the criterion but his stability, stamina and skills I don't think he can still pull it off 100% in the actual ring battle itself.

At his age now, it’s definitely tough for Manny to become a champion again, but you have to admire his bravery as he is still willing to step into the ring despite being older.

I’m sure he’s not doing this blindly.
He’s a legendary fighter and definitely knows what he’s doing. It’s possible he might lose, but I don’t think he’ll suffer a bad defeat.

I believe Manny can survive the fight and he won’t get knocked out.

[coin-investor]

All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.

[YOSHIE]

The question is that, is Pacman still has it to dethrone the current WBC welterweight champion Mario Barrios or the latter will send Pacman to retirement for good.

The return of Manny Pacquiao on the ring to challenge Mario Barrios has been debated among boxing lovers, that is a natural thing considering several factors against Pacquiao.
For example talks and warnings.

Manny Pacquiao's plan returned to the boxing ring to trigger debate and concern. This decision came even though the Filipino boxing legend had been warned not to return to the world of professional boxing.

What to say, the decision is already round Mario Barrios vs. Manny Pacquiao is final, just waiting for time.
But I only have a view to Pacquiao which is clear he is not Pacquiao As we see above the ring, he is old and not young anymore, hopefully his strength will not follow his age....🫣

[Dave1]

I thought when I first read that Paquiao would fight Mario bro's, but it turned out that it was Mario barrios hehe.. Anyway back in the topic, At Manny Paquiao's age now, I don't think he can still do the performances he showed in the past few years of his fights.

Even though we are from the same race, I doubt he will win there, his stand is definitely different now compared to before his fights because Paquiao is also old,
though I know that age is not the criterion but his stability, stamina and skills I don't think he can still pull it off 100% in the actual ring battle itself.

At his age now, it’s definitely tough for Manny to become a champion again, but you have to admire his bravery as he is still willing to step into the ring despite being older.

I’m sure he’s not doing this blindly.
He’s a legendary fighter and definitely knows what he’s doing. It’s possible he might lose, but I don’t think he’ll suffer a bad defeat.

I believe Manny can survive the fight and he won’t get knocked out.

I think it's more than that, initially as a fan I don't what to see Manny gets hurt in the ring. But I'm thinking that he might be doing this for all his fans. I saw a recent video of him training in the streets when suddenly a police car appear.

However, the two police officers step out of the vehicle and it seems that Manny knows at least one of the cop. And then they had a few conversations and hugging each other and then taking pictures. With that, for sure a lot of Manny's fans are just happy to see him makes a comeback fight.

[bisdak40]

However, the two police officers step out of the vehicle and it seems that Manny knows at least one of the cop. And then they had a few conversations and hugging each other and then taking pictures. With that, for sure a lot of Manny's fans are just happy to see him makes a comeback fight.

Also saw that video and it just shows that many people loves Manny and they want to see him again in the boxing ring and that is what also Manny missed, the eagerness of the people to have a glimpse of him even in training. I just hope that this scenario won't be a distraction on his training as he needed every minute of the day to train as he is not young anymore.

[Shinpako09]

I thought when I first read that Paquiao would fight Mario bro's, but it turned out that it was Mario barrios hehe.. Anyway back in the topic, At Manny Paquiao's age now, I don't think he can still do the performances he showed in the past few years of his fights.

Even though we are from the same race, I doubt he will win there, his stand is definitely different now compared to before his fights because Paquiao is also old,
though I know that age is not the criterion but his stability, stamina and skills I don't think he can still pull it off 100% in the actual ring battle itself.

At his age now, it’s definitely tough for Manny to become a champion again, but you have to admire his bravery as he is still willing to step into the ring despite being older.

I’m sure he’s not doing this blindly.
He’s a legendary fighter and definitely knows what he’s doing. It’s possible he might lose, but I don’t think he’ll suffer a bad defeat.

I believe Manny can survive the fight and he won’t get knocked out.

Yeah, just like when he fought Ugas, although he lost, he didn't suffer too much. Who knows, he is older compared to when his last fight against Ugas, and Ugas has been beaten by Barrios in 2023. Having the same outcome when he fights against Ugas in his upcoming fight is already a good thing for him, as long as he won't suffer any serious or threatening injury. Tbh, as a fan of Pacquiao, whether I like it or not, based on his performance against Ugas, winning is nearly impossible, but if he did, it would be a historic win.