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May 28, 2025, 06:25:35 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.

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May 28, 2025, 07:27:08 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.
I think the camp of Mario Barrios knows this, they have seen how Thurman did before, all trash talking but then got knockdown on the first round lost. Here, I don't think that Barrios will open his mouth and trade barbs against the legend in Manny Pacquiao.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.
Yes, even at his age, there might still be something inside of Pacquiao. So Barrios needs to be very careful and not underestimate Manny. He looks good in the picture already, but then again, it's going to be very different when he goes inside the ring and feel the power of Manny.

 
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May 28, 2025, 07:41:27 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.

For so many clips available about the last fights of Pacquaio? For sure Barrios already know what to do when they meet up.

The challenging part here is Pacquaio only get less clips from Barrios plus he's age provably a hindrance since for sure that power and speed is declining here.

But I would love to see on what he can do against Barrios since it will be more pretty interesting if he can successfully defeat a young champion in this fight. Again let see if we can see a classic fast and explosive Pacquaio in this match.

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May 28, 2025, 11:23:05 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.

For so many clips available about the last fights of Pacquaio? For sure Barrios already know what to do when they meet up.

The challenging part here is Pacquaio only get less clips from Barrios plus he's age provably a hindrance since for sure that power and speed is declining here.

But I would love to see on what he can do against Barrios since it will be more pretty interesting if he can successfully defeat a young champion in this fight. Again let see if we can see a classic fast and explosive Pacquaio in this match.
For speed then i wont be that much that expecting on which we do know that Pacquiao is old. I have seen up his video about his conditioning or training for this upcoming fight. Yes, we can be able to see that those fast shadow boxing but i do see the stamina wont be that as much in compared into those prime days.  If ever that Pacquiao would be able to win up against Barrios then that would be that a feat comeback. Some people are that focusing too much about into those money matters like this and like that. Of course we do have our own reasons on why we do tend to get back or having those plans to make up some decision to go despite on having that retirement earlier. People do really love on making up some issues and not just that trying out to enjoy up this upcoming fight.
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May 29, 2025, 03:51:20 AM
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what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

Oscar was also a boxer before. I reckon he can see which boxers are something similar to Tom Brady and who are those boxers that are only ordinary men and Pacman is certainly not an ordinary boxer.

There are also people who are arguing that Pacman's performances is his exhibitions have made everyone witnessed that his older age might have weakened very much him already. However, did Pacman give his 100% in training for these exhibitions? I am quite certain he did not.

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May 29, 2025, 04:19:09 AM
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what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

Oscar was also a boxer before. I reckon he can see which boxers are something similar to Tom Brady and who are those boxers that are only ordinary men and Pacman is certainly not an ordinary boxer.
Pacman was a generational talent, we can still him fighting at this age. Yeah, I like the comparison on Tom Brady, still winning rings even at his 40's and the competitiveness in them was always there despite the adversaries.

There are also people who are arguing that Pacman's performances is his exhibitions have made everyone witnessed that his older age might have weakened very much him already. However, did Pacman give his 100% in training for these exhibitions? I am quite certain he did not.
I don't think that Pacman gave his 100% in training in that exhibition fights, his body tells it all. But here, we might see his 6 pack abs again when he flex and that body popping with veins and ready to go. So that's what I imagine during the weigh-in and who knows, it might intimidate Mario Barrios seeing a 46 year old Pacman with that kind of physique just like when he was still in his prime.

 
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May 29, 2025, 05:03:49 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.

For so many clips available about the last fights of Pacquaio? For sure Barrios already know what to do when they meet up.

The challenging part here is Pacquaio only get less clips from Barrios plus he's age provably a hindrance since for sure that power and speed is declining here.

But I would love to see on what he can do against Barrios since it will be more pretty interesting if he can successfully defeat a young champion in this fight. Again let see if we can see a classic fast and explosive Pacquaio in this match.

I think everyone knows the style of Manny. Everyone of his opponents didn't think that he is that strong and can't hurt them. But we can see that they went down from the power punches. So for sure Barrios already had in this mind. But the thing is that he shouldn't underestimate Manny's power just like almost of his previous opponents who think that he is too small.

And regarding the clips, it's only good as his last fight and even if he lost that one, who knows, maybe there is still something in this version of Manny. White hair but still have that power and hand speed that he is known of. Odds says that Manny is a big underdog, but I think there will be a lot of us here going to back him up and believed that he can pull one of the biggest comeback for his year.
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May 29, 2025, 05:09:52 AM
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As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.
No the opponent was the belt holder and Manny will try to claim a Title belt match. 5years without any matches on the ring, surely you will not expect him to be the same as before. But this give the Champion a chanc3 to defend his title with the one of the famous boxer of all time. You can considered this match actually as balance, since Marrio Borros is still young but Manny is experienced. Actually it would be better if Manny will have a rematch against Mayweather.

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As far as I can remember, Manny Pacquiao has retired for a long time, but after seeing the news, it turns out that Manny has to defend the title against a Qualified Challenger, and it turns out that the rule still applies to a former WBC champion. Honestly, I support Manny Pacquiao, although I am not sure about his performance in the match later, because I feel he is quite old, and also because he has not competed professionally for a long time. Even so, I will definitely watch this very interesting match, and can't wait for the results.
No the opponent was the belt holder and Manny will try to claim a Title belt match. 5years without any matches on the ring, surely you will not expect him to be the same as before. But this give the Champion a chanc3 to defend his title with the one of the famous boxer of all time. You can considered this match actually as balance, since Marrio Borros is still young but Manny is experienced. Actually it would be better if Manny will have a rematch against Mayweather.

And Mario Barrios is the weakest of the champion at this division, and so with that it even up everything although the odds are not saying that. But for us fans, youth vs experience, tall vs small. And then Manny's hand speed and power will be the key here. If Manny still at least 80% of his speed and power of his prime years, then I think Barrios will be in trouble here.

But if the version of Manny that shows here is old and not longer can pull the trigger, then the odd makers are correct in putting him as their favorite in this fight. But as you have said, let's give Manny a chance here, maybe it's 5 years that we haven't seen him in the professional ring, but perhaps he can give us a good performance and it this fight goes to distance, he will have a better chance to win as his experience will take over in the championship rounds.

 
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Yeah, just like when he fought Ugas, although he lost, he didn't suffer too much. Who knows, he is older compared to when his last fight against Ugas, and Ugas has been beaten by Barrios in 2023. Having the same outcome when he fights against Ugas in his upcoming fight is already a good thing for him, as long as he won't suffer any serious or threatening injury. Tbh, as a fan of Pacquiao, whether I like it or not, based on his performance against Ugas, winning is nearly impossible, but if he did, it would be a historic win.

Barrios is barely above the level of a journeyman. It is not as much of a mismatch as people might think, but we have seen many great fighters come back when they were old and lose to guys who are even less accomplished than Barrios. I am not expecting an upset, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the result was a close decision.

what are your thoughts about this?

Oscar De La Hoya Believes Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Mario Barrios

So if De La Hoya, someone who really knows the game, believes that Pacman will win, then I guess we shouldn’t doubt him. If Manny does win and starts talking about defending the belt, that’s really up to him. But for now, what matters most is whether he can actually pull off a successful comeback in this fight.

De La Hoya is coked out of his mind half the time. I don’t see him as an authority whose opinion carries much weight. He is just saying something which is common sense. Barrios is a paper champion with a weak resume. His skills aren’t impressive, but he manages to win by having a lot of heart.

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May 29, 2025, 06:37:33 AM
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I believe Manny can survive the fight and he won’t get knocked out.
Yeah, just like when he fought Ugas, although he lost, he didn't suffer too much. Who knows, he is older compared to when his last fight against Ugas, and Ugas has been beaten by Barrios in 2023. Having the same outcome when he fights against Ugas in his upcoming fight is already a good thing for him, as long as he won't suffer any serious or threatening injury. Tbh, as a fan of Pacquiao, whether I like it or not, based on his performance against Ugas, winning is nearly impossible, but if he did, it would be a historic win.

As an experienced and legendary fighter like Pacquiao who knows every corner of the ring very well, If he consider slowing it down and control the tempo of the whole fight, I don't think he'll get knocked down or suffer too much.
I don't expect much for Pacquiao to win this match. My perception towards Pacquaio's current condition may change during the fight, as we could tell how the fight will most likely to end up after a couple of rounds. Barrios is in his prime, though he's not as elite as those fighters Pacman fought during his prime, but father time would slow him down for sure. It was Evident when he fought the Japanese guy in the most recent exhibition match. I don't think Pacman has enough preparation for this fight after the long election campaign. His loss in the election surely have him stressed and disappointed, which could somehow affect his mental conditioning and potentially his physical conditioning as well.

As much as I want to see him fight again, but I don't feel really good about him coming out of retirement and fight a younger fighter who has the advantage in every category.

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But if the version of Manny that shows here is old and not longer can pull the trigger, then the odd makers are correct in putting him as their favorite in this fight. But as you have said, let's give Manny a chance here, maybe it's 5 years that we haven't seen him in the professional ring, but perhaps he can give us a good performance and it this fight goes to distance, he will have a better chance to win as his experience will take over in the championship rounds.
I'd like to think that the version that will come out on fight night is when he fought Ugas, he lacked speed and power in his punches, we have to understand the dynamic of a boxer's body, a boxer's body is degrading because of punches accumulated over the years, our body is not degenerating, we grow old our bones becomes brittle and the muscle losses its elasticity.
From the outside, Manny may look good, but deep inside, he is also aging. I don't want him to get knocked out; I just want him to finish the fight and say that boxing is over with him.

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I'd like to think that the version that will come out on fight night is when he fought Ugas, he lacked speed and power in his punches, we have to understand the dynamic of a boxer's body, a boxer's body is degrading because of punches accumulated over the years, our body is not degenerating, we grow old our bones becomes brittle and the muscle losses its elasticity.
From the outside, Manny may look good, but deep inside, he is also aging. I don't want him to get knocked out; I just want him to finish the fight and say that boxing is over with him.

You have a valid point here and I do believe that MP performance is already around 60% to 70% max when he played when it comes on his overall physique.

However, technique and experience will play an important role on every boxing match. The outcome depends on the strategy of each boxer so we can’t really determine accurately what will be his performance on the upcoming match.

Freddie Roach is now training back again MP. I think something good will happened on this match.

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I love Manny, he’s one of the greatest of all time, really likeable person away from the ring too. This saddens me, why would he return to the ring at age 46 though. He is worth so much money and he has pursued a career in politics, he’s got a wife and five kids. He really doesn’t need the money so getting punched repeatedly in the face at age 46 really isn’t a good idea.

I hate when legends come out of retirement to fight, it cheapens the sport. He must miss the adrenaline and thrill of the fight. Maybe he wants some space from his wife with a long training camp (I’m kidding). Hope he doesn’t get hurt any way, wish he wasn’t doing this though.

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And Mario Barrios is the weakest of the champion at this division, and so with that it even up everything although the odds are not saying that. But for us fans, youth vs experience, tall vs small. And then Manny's hand speed and power will be the key here. If Manny still at least 80% of his speed and power of his prime years, then I think Barrios will be in trouble here.
I just watched few of his clip fights so I guess his also good. But I dont know his batch or other boxers on his generation now, if his the weakest then Manny might snatch a title from him. As a fan I am bias about him but the only concern here is like you said is if he still retain his power and speed. If his gotten slow then he might also suffer heavy damages from Barrios.

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I just watched few of his clip fights so I guess his also good. But I dont know his batch or other boxers on his generation now, if his the weakest then Manny might snatch a title from him. As a fan I am bias about him but the only concern here is like you said is if he still retain his power and speed. If his gotten slow then he might also suffer heavy damages from Barrios.
Barrios ain’t the best champ out there for sure. He lost to Thurman, and we all saw Pacman beat Thurman before. That alone gives us a sign that Manny could beat Barrios if he still has gas in the tank at 45.

But don’t let the nostalgia hype you too much.

It’s cool to watch, but betting on Pacman? That might be more heart than logic.

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I hate when legends come out of retirement to fight, it cheapens the sport.

This can certainly be true, however, if he gets the victory will does cheapen boxing? No this will not, I reckon. This will be an inspiration for many young boxers that if they work hard, they might also get their chance to be a big name in boxing.

This will also not only be an inspiration for young boxers. This will be an inspiration for people who are going through hardships in their lives. This will be something similar to Rocky Balboa in the movies, an inspiration!

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May 30, 2025, 07:19:02 AM
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I love Manny, he’s one of the greatest of all time, really likeable person away from the ring too. This saddens me, why would he return to the ring at age 46 though. He is worth so much money and he has pursued a career in politics, he’s got a wife and five kids. He really doesn’t need the money so getting punched repeatedly in the face at age 46 really isn’t a good idea.

I hate when legends come out of retirement to fight, it cheapens the sport. He must miss the adrenaline and thrill of the fight. Maybe he wants some space from his wife with a long training camp (I’m kidding). Hope he doesn’t get hurt any way, wish he wasn’t doing this though.
I disagree though about when legends come out and fight again. On the contrary, it could create more hype again as we will see the legendary Manny Pacquiao come back again and for sure fans are going to reminiscent when he was in his prime years and so there will be a lot of fans that are still going to support him. And if that happens then the sports of boxing will go on another level as Jake Paul's exhibition matches are taking over. So there's nothing wrong seeing Manny back in the ring against a young fighter. And he deserves that title shot, as he was once regarded as one of the best champion of WBC (although this body is corrupt). Lots of vloggers too comes alive in the US and follow the training of Manny as there have been a lot of videos already in Youtube again. So everyone benefits from Manny coming back. Even Floyd talks about it and other former and retired and present boxers who idolizes Manny.

 
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May 30, 2025, 07:40:14 AM
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I don't know if you have seen this video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboMDwDEVY4

It's one channel that I followed in terms of boxing and their video are really great and you know that they really work hard for it.

And with that, yeah, the hype is real, there are tons of videos on Manny's comeback fight and everyone should really be excited although there could be health concern for the 46 year old. But I think he will be ok win or lose in this fight.
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May 30, 2025, 07:47:27 AM
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All discussion has been about Pacquiao, including his training and conditioning. Recently, Mario Barrios just uploaded his recent picture on social media; he looks well-conditioned and ready for the fight.
Mario knows that this is a critical fight for his career, and he wants to ensure he is at his very best because he is facing a dangerous and living legend.


Just focus on your training specially stamina and speed. make sure that your body is ready to accept the powerful blow from Pacman.
Even the guys is old he still havethe package to win the game.

This will be a very good match, people will witness this.. this is a blow by blow match.

For so many clips available about the last fights of Pacquaio? For sure Barrios already know what to do when they meet up.

The challenging part here is Pacquaio only get less clips from Barrios plus he's age provably a hindrance since for sure that power and speed is declining here.

But I would love to see on what he can do against Barrios since it will be more pretty interesting if he can successfully defeat a young champion in this fight. Again let see if we can see a classic fast and explosive Pacquaio in this match.
If you watch recent videos from Roach's gym workouts, Pacquiao's footwork is still excellent and more likely the problem will be stamina, especially considering the speeds at welterweight are very high.

Of course we can mention Bernard Hopkins who beat Pascal at the age of 47, but Hopkins fought without a break, unlike Pacquiao who hasn't been in the ring since 2021.

Pacquiao is undoubtedly one of the greatest boxers of our time and he became champion in the 90s of the last century and then be at the top of boxing for 2021 year, but this fight apparently needs Pacquiao more because of financial moments and this always ends badly when a boxer has to fight because he ran out of money that he got for his boxing career.

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