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Author Topic: [Boxing] Mario Barrios vs Manny Pacquiao WBC Welterweight Title - July 19  (Read 2686 times)
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July 21, 2025, 05:05:38 AM
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I watched the fight, and I’m on Manny's side that he won 8 of the 12 rounds. He is the more aggressive fighter, and he always starts the engagement. Barrios is a passive fighter, only waiting for Manny to make a mistake.
Manny could have set another record if the judges had made the correct verdict.
Check these experts and boxers who think Manny dominated the fight.
Thats a title belt match, I guess the standard to win from a current champ holder needs more than what Manny just did to Barrios. I guess theres a saying that if you want to get the championship belt from a champion, you need to knock him out but Barrios somehow manage not to be overwhelm and somehow fight back. For me the draw result seems fine, this could bring another rematch or new fight for Pacman. But its a good fight indeed.

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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.

I don't think Pacquiao will fight Boots Ennis, he's a very dangerous opponent for Manny at this stage of his career. They chose Mario Barrios because he's considered the weakest among the current welterweight champions. So if Manny does return to the ring, I believe they'll pick an opponent with a similar caliber to Barrios. Although names like Gervonta Davis and Rolando Romero have been mentioned, I still think both are too risky for Manny.


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July 21, 2025, 07:33:17 AM
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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.

I don't think Pacquiao will fight Boots Ennis, he's a very dangerous opponent for Manny at this stage of his career. They chose Mario Barrios because he's considered the weakest among the current welterweight champions. So if Manny does return to the ring, I believe they'll pick an opponent with a similar caliber to Barrios. Although names like Gervonta Davis and Rolando Romero have been mentioned, I still think both are too risky for Manny.
Isn’t it better for Manny to just focus on negotiating the rematch instead of chasing another champion right away? I think he has a better shot at getting recognition if he becomes a champ again, and since Barrios is open to a rematch, he should stick with that. No need to shift focus to other fighters yet, he can prepare properly and make a strong comeback in that rematch.

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July 21, 2025, 08:01:15 AM
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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.

I don't think Pacquiao will fight Boots Ennis, he's a very dangerous opponent for Manny at this stage of his career. They chose Mario Barrios because he's considered the weakest among the current welterweight champions. So if Manny does return to the ring, I believe they'll pick an opponent with a similar caliber to Barrios. Although names like Gervonta Davis and Rolando Romero have been mentioned, I still think both are too risky for Manny.
Isn’t it better for Manny to just focus on negotiating the rematch instead of chasing another champion right away? I think he has a better shot at getting recognition if he becomes a champ again, and since Barrios is open to a rematch, he should stick with that. No need to shift focus to other fighters yet, he can prepare properly and make a strong comeback in that rematch.

Everything hinges on the WBC's decision.
Let us keep in mind, they were previously involved in controversy for sanctioning Manny's fight against Barrios, despite Manny being unranked and coming off a long layoff.

If the WBC mandates Barrios to face the mandatory challenger and he loses, then a rematch with Manny might lose its appeal, especially since no title would be on the line.

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July 21, 2025, 08:08:09 AM
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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.

I don't think Pacquiao will fight Boots Ennis, he's a very dangerous opponent for Manny at this stage of his career. They chose Mario Barrios because he's considered the weakest among the current welterweight champions. So if Manny does return to the ring, I believe they'll pick an opponent with a similar caliber to Barrios. Although names like Gervonta Davis and Rolando Romero have been mentioned, I still think both are too risky for Manny.

Yes, as much as we love Manny, Ennis will be too much for him and I do agree that he chooses Barrios because as we all know of, he is the weakest amongst the champion. But if Manny will fight the likes of Boots Ennis or even Tank Davis, we might see Manny getting KO'ed again.

So it's very hard where to see Manny from here, maybe a Barrios rematch?

Although it was reported that Manny earn at least 1 Billion Pesos, so that his huge amount of money in his bag again. And it could compensate on how much he lost when he campaigns as Senator in the latest Philippine election.

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July 21, 2025, 10:14:13 AM
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In his older age, he needs a minimum recovery time of 1 year and this might be the shortest if he wants to chase the welterweight championship and have a rematch against Barrios.
I'm not in support of him asking for a rematch. But then, it's his choice to make. I'm not comfortable seeing elderly boxers fight because it's a combat sport. Anything can go wrong during a bout. Yeah, I know boxing is the only sport where athletes are licensed to kill in the ring but it won't be nice urging people into it just to watch them get killed.

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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.
No, I don't want him to go into any fight again. Though I routed for him to defeat Barrios in the last fight, it didn't happen that way. That's one of such things in life. A draw wasn't bad either for both men. At least the outcome keep both men's ego intact.

On the part that you think it's going to be a handicapped match in favour of Boots Ennis against Pacquiao, don't be too sure of that. We've seen less rated boxers outclass favourites. Pacquiao may have advanced in age but he's certainly not a pushover.

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July 21, 2025, 10:36:10 AM
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After the fight ends many people and even some analyst say that Pacquaio really won that fight. But guess they cannot do anything now since that is the judge decision and maybe people should be happy that Pacquaio is fine then getting huge after the fight ends.

Although we could really see that Pacquaio slows down but we could still see that he still lots of power in his bag. So maybe this is not the end and provably we could see him seeking for another great fight. Barrios remain the champion but for sure many people will criticize him for thinking that Pacquaio won that fight.


That’s alright, Pacman has a huge fanbase so it’s expected that a lot of people aren’t happy with the result. But it is what it is, this is boxing. You never really know who’s gonna win, and at the end of the day, it’s the judges who decide.

Pacman didn’t look that dominant to say he clearly beat the champ. If anything, he just had a slight edge in the scoring if he were to win. But honestly, a draw is still better than a loss.

Don’t worry though, a rematch is already on the table. And next time, for sure it won’t end in a draw again.

BTW, here’s the score from the judges.

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/boxing-news/manny-pacquiao-mario-barrios-scorecards-222003-20250720
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Max DeLuca: 115–113 for Barrios
Tim Cheatham: 114–114 (draw)
Steve Weisfeld: 114–114 (draw)

Its just people expect to much that Pacquaio will win but unfortunately those expectation didn't meet especially that Barrios also play good in this fight.

So maybe better luck next time for them if there's going to be a rematch will happen.

Most likely when a draw happen there's instances that they would talk about a possible rematch. But it really seems they are not done yet and they are cooking for Pacquaio vs Barrios 2 https://www.spin.ph/boxing/pacquiao-barrios-on-possible-rematch-in-the-future-a793-20250720 So lets see if they gonna make this happen since this is another unfinish business for both fighters.

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July 21, 2025, 10:44:47 AM
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Everything hinges on the WBC's decision.
Let us keep in mind, they were previously involved in controversy for sanctioning Manny's fight against Barrios, despite Manny being unranked and coming off a long layoff.

If the WBC mandates Barrios to face the mandatory challenger and he loses, then a rematch with Manny might lose its appeal, especially since no title would be on the line.

Well said, Manny is already pass on the stage which he is chasing certain fighter for glory just to finish the unfinished business. If there’s only a fighter worthy of this chased, it’s Mayweather only.

There’s no point on thinking about for rematch against Barrios if he is not the champion already.

Fan is looking forward for Pacman to get another belt on his current age not to beat a specific fighter that doesn’t have belt on it.

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July 21, 2025, 10:48:04 AM
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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.

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July 21, 2025, 12:48:39 PM
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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.
If Mayweather comes out of retirement, that probably means he’s eyeing a rematch with Manny. We all know Mayweather’s always after easy money, and fighting Pacquiao means big cash. The real question is, is Mayweather still in shape like Manny? Pacquiao already proved he can still go toe-to-toe with a younger champ, so we know he’s ready. It’s Mayweather we’re not so sure about.

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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.
If Mayweather comes out of retirement, that probably means he’s eyeing a rematch with Manny. We all know Mayweather’s always after easy money, and fighting Pacquiao means big cash. The real question is, is Mayweather still in shape like Manny? Pacquiao already proved he can still go toe-to-toe with a younger champ, so we know he’s ready. It’s Mayweather we’re not so sure about.

Yes, but he doesn't want to risk that 0 because even though that he is good, who knows, at his age his chin is already like weak and so when Manny touches that again, it might break and Floyd losses for the first time.

At this point I think he and Marquez are the only boxers that doesn't want to fight Manny or rematch him for the money. They already very happy getting a win from Pacman. Nevertheless, majority of boxing analyst and so called experts still ranks Manny above them even though they beat him.

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July 22, 2025, 01:41:18 AM
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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.
If Mayweather comes out of retirement, that probably means he’s eyeing a rematch with Manny. We all know Mayweather’s always after easy money, and fighting Pacquiao means big cash. The real question is, is Mayweather still in shape like Manny? Pacquiao already proved he can still go toe-to-toe with a younger champ, so we know he’s ready. It’s Mayweather we’re not so sure about.

Yes, but he doesn't want to risk that 0 because even though that he is good, who knows, at his age his chin is already like weak and so when Manny touches that again, it might break and Floyd losses for the first time.

At this point I think he and Marquez are the only boxers that doesn't want to fight Manny or rematch him for the money. They already very happy getting a win from Pacman. Nevertheless, majority of boxing analyst and so called experts still ranks Manny above them even though they beat him.
That is what i don't understand with this boxers they are so attached to records like Mayweather, he always say he is the best boxer but, don't want to fight a prime boxer, and when the fights happen or the other party agree he will put so many clause that is needed by the boxer for him to fight, he will even ask money that can't be done so the fight is cancel, i don't idolized that kind of fighter, this is why Manny and Tyson are one of the idols of lots of boxing fans, he even accused money of using drugs.

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July 22, 2025, 02:00:42 AM
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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.

Mayweather would be the safest opponent for Manny if a rematch ever materializes, but I doubt Floyd is open to the idea. Based on Manny’s performance against Barrios, I believe Floyd won’t take the fight, especially considering he’s already 48 years old, older than Manny, and likely no longer in boxing shape.


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Mayweather would be the safest opponent for Manny if a rematch ever materializes, but I doubt Floyd is open to the idea. Based on Manny’s performance against Barrios, I believe Floyd won’t take the fight, especially considering he’s already 48 years old, older than Manny, and likely no longer in boxing shape.
We haven’t even heard anything from Mayweather lately, not even an exhibition fight. He’s probably just enjoying retirement and doing his own thing.

And if he’s not in shape, no way he’s gonna agree to fight. He’s all about protecting that undefeated record, that’s really the only legacy he’s got in boxing, since a lot of people don’t even like his style. They find him boring in the ring.

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I don’t really get why Mayweather is suddenly being brought up. Yeah, he beat Pacman, but he’s been retired and there’s no sign he’s coming back.

After seeing Pacman’s fight with Barrios, you can tell he’s still tough to beat. Since he already tested himself against a taller opponent, maybe next time he can go against someone closer to his size, so we can see more of a toe-to-toe kind of fight, not the usual defensive style.

And honestly, no need to worry about his age. Manny’s already proven that age is just a number for him.

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July 22, 2025, 05:51:06 AM
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I don’t really get why Mayweather is suddenly being brought up. Yeah, he beat Pacman, but he’s been retired and there’s no sign he’s coming back.
I don't understand too, but in discussions like this, when Pacquiao is there. Someone is going to bring up how he's been beaten by either Mayweather and Marquez.

After seeing Pacman’s fight with Barrios, you can tell he’s still tough to beat. Since he already tested himself against a taller opponent, maybe next time he can go against someone closer to his size, so we can see more of a toe-to-toe kind of fight, not the usual defensive style.

And honestly, no need to worry about his age. Manny’s already proven that age is just a number for him.
Yup. Age is just a number and this will also open him more challenges and fights to come over him.

Most of the viewers sentiment tells that he should be the winner of this and it shouldn't be draw. There are even rumors that because of big bets, the mafia has foretold that the result must be draw and not him as the winner.

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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.

He's way out of his prime already and he's known to be a defensive fighter (not a joke but a compliment), so he might as well defend his flawless legacy. Pacquiao, If I'm not mistaken was one of the threat on Mayweather's record and he already defeated him. Though not in their best years, but I think that'll settle down everything. Don't get me wrong, It's not like I don't want to see these 2 fighters in the ring again, but It's just that Mayweather will not go down for it, and another thing is that - In my own observation, Manny is now just fighting for the money. So, basically it's not the same Manny that we've witnessed before.

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July 22, 2025, 09:53:42 PM
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Can we see a Pacman vs Mayweather in the near future? Manny told the media that he will fight and back.
Will Moneyweather go out of his retirement soon ? But I do hope that the next opponent of Manny is a fighter which is same as him.
a brave fighter that will box all the way and not just run or hug. we missed the Hatton boxing because of early KO.

He's way out of his prime already and he's known to be a defensive fighter (not a joke but a compliment), so he might as well defend his flawless legacy. Pacquiao, If I'm not mistaken was one of the threat on Mayweather's record and he already defeated him. Though not in their best years, but I think that'll settle down everything. Don't get me wrong, It's not like I don't want to see these 2 fighters in the ring again, but It's just that Mayweather will not go down for it, and another thing is that - In my own observation, Manny is now just fighting for the money. So, basically it's not the same Manny that we've witnessed before.

Mayweather is happy with his life now and provably that he's not going to fight Pacquiao because he knows there's huge possibilities that his record might get broken. For sure he will pick fights on other fighters which he know he have great advantage. So for sure that its really impossible for us to see that fight.

I'm more interested to see the Pacquaio vs Barrios 2 to happen since this is more realistic fight that will happen. They are not done yet and both need to prove their selves so lets see if there's still like this will happen in future. Also its no doubt that Manny Pacquaio is fighting for money now since he don't have anything to chase. He need to secure his future since Pacquaio knows he won't earn that money anymore once he fully retired on the business.

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July 23, 2025, 03:38:11 AM
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Also, you want Pacman vs. Boots Ennis? I will be sorry for Pacman fans because Boots will give him a knockout similar to the knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez. I am quite certain of this.

I don't think Pacquiao will fight Boots Ennis, he's a very dangerous opponent for Manny at this stage of his career. They chose Mario Barrios because he's considered the weakest among the current welterweight champions. So if Manny does return to the ring, I believe they'll pick an opponent with a similar caliber to Barrios. Although names like Gervonta Davis and Rolando Romero have been mentioned, I still think both are too risky for Manny.

He was only asking if Pacman vs. Boots Ennis will be a good fight hehehe.

In any case, agreed. Pacman's team wIll never accept this proposal if it will arrive on his side of the negotiation table. Pacman is a type of fighter who does not fight for money. He is also fighting for legacy and being knocked out in his older stage and retired because of this will not be good for legacy. Also, the risk of brain damage.

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I don’t really get why Mayweather is suddenly being brought up. Yeah, he beat Pacman, but he’s been retired and there’s no sign he’s coming back.
Sadly, it is inevitable to happen. A lot of people have still not moved on from that fight and want to see a rematch. Speaking of Pacquiao vs. Mayweather, I saw several articles where Pacquiao called out Mayweather and asked him to fight again just after his fight against Barrios.

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