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[colinistheman]

Congratulations to you on winning your bet. Your decision to choose 1.75 odds was successful.

Oh great, thank you man, so nice weekend. 

Luck is on my side I think,,

Next round Sunderland will defend most talked Liverpool. What do you think about this match?
I'm thinking of placing a bet on this match as well, but I need to see the squads of both teams first.

I've encountered a situation where TRC20 withdrawals were more expensive than ERC20 on the same platform, even though we know ERC20 gas fees are typically higher.

Ethereum blockchain has been improved a lot in transaction fees recent months and we no longer need to use layer-2 on Ethereum for cheap transaction fees. With Ethereum layer-1 blockchain, fees now are cheap enough to use while Tron blockchain has not yet solved their technical issues and it still has big disadvantage of more expensive transaction fees for its users.

I did not use TRC20 in many months as it is no longer a cheapest chain for transactions.

You will see that most online casino usually set a fixed withdrawal fee of their own choice but a standard value regardless of the actual cost of the network, so that they could be safe if the cost suddenly fluctuates. This is why you might be seeing on Toshi.bet that TRC 20 fees are same as ERC 20, probably it's 4$, but we thought Tron was always cheaper, lol.

Whatever, I use BSC chain, it faster and fees are almost zero

[khaled0111]

You will see that most online casino usually set a fixed withdrawal fee of their own choice but a standard value regardless of the actual cost of the network, so that they could be safe if the cost suddenly fluctuates. This is why you might be seeing on Toshi.bet that TRC 20 fees are same as ERC 20, probably it's 4$, but we thought Tron was always cheaper, lol.

Yes, most service providers set the fees a bit higher than what’s actually required to make sure transactions are processed quickly and smoothly regardless of network status. This is totally understandable. However, they need to adjust those fees from time to time especially when one of the networks hasn’t been congested for too long. Otherwise this would look like overcharging users which is not cool.
For example, in this case, fees for trc-20 transactions have to be lower than the fees for erc-20 transactions.

[strixez]

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[MusaMohamed]

You will see that most online casino usually set a fixed withdrawal fee of their own choice but a standard value regardless of the actual cost of the network, so that they could be safe if the cost suddenly fluctuates. This is why you might be seeing on Toshi.bet that TRC 20 fees are same as ERC 20, probably it's 4$

Mostly does not mean always but you are right that centralized exchanges and online sites usually set fixed withdrawal fee on each blockchain in order to avoid unnecessary inaccurate and not-profitable for their business operation when processing withdrawals for users. If fees went down or up a lot for a while long time, they will change their fixed withdrawal fee on that chain but it takes time, not a short time definitely.

but we thought Tron was always cheaper, lol.

It's a big mistake with many people as Tron blockchain was only cheap for transactions years ago when Ethereum blockchain had very expensive transaction fees like $100, $200 or even higher. Recent months, this story between Ethereum and Tron chains changed and Tron blockchain is no longer a better choice for making on chain transactions if people care about saving fee.

Whatever, I use BSC chain, it faster and fees are almost zero

I use it too but you can use Solana as well.

[Cryptmuster]

BSC has cheap transaction fee as a competitor or replacement for Ethereum blockchain ERC20. TRC20 chain used to have a similar role like BSC but did you not know or did you forget that TRC20 chain in recent months has no longer been a cheapest one in transaction fee.

ERC20, BSC, Solana are good chains for enjoying cheaper transaction fees in latest months while you don't have it with TRC20 chain. Justin Sun and Tron developers will have to work hard for improve this chain transaction fee for users.
https://gasfeesnow.com/

I'd say BSC and Solana, of the networks you mentioned would have low fees, while ERC20 comparable to TRC20 would be significantly higher. However I've encountered situations where a casino only offers ERC20 and TRC20, so the choice is limited to where you have stablecoins. Toshi.bet offers several networks to choose from, which significantly simplifies the fee issue for players with relatively small deposits, where every dollar matters.

[SmartGold01]

You will see that most online casino usually set a fixed withdrawal fee of their own choice but a standard value regardless of the actual cost of the network, so that they could be safe if the cost suddenly fluctuates. This is why you might be seeing on Toshi.bet that TRC 20 fees are same as ERC 20, probably it's 4$, but we thought Tron was always cheaper, lol.

Yes, most service providers set the fees a bit higher than what’s actually required to make sure transactions are processed quickly and smoothly regardless of network status. This is totally understandable. However, they need to adjust those fees from time to time especially when one of the networks hasn’t been congested for too long. Otherwise this would look like overcharging users which is not cool.
For example, in this case, fees for trc-20 transactions have to be lower than the fees for erc-20 transactions.

As far as I know many gambling site charges 1$ for withdrawal fee on tron network.. while for BNB and other chains is also a  bit less while some of the gambling site makes it constantly to be just 1$. I believe there are chances to reduce when they might have noticed that other gambling site doesn't changes same amount for withdrawal fee. And note very well all gambling sites maintain same protocol,. Meaning if you deposited with Trc20 usdt you will be only allowed to withdraw back with same network as you wouldn't be permitted to withdraw usdt back through BNB chain or ethereum network that is how many of the gambling site do operates.

[Pmalek]

Mostly does not mean always but you are right that centralized exchanges and online sites usually set fixed withdrawal fee on each blockchain in order to avoid unnecessary inaccurate and not-profitable for their business operation when processing withdrawals for users.

Centralized exchanges usually have big amounts of tron and other altcoins staked. They receive energy and bandwidth for that. That's why they can afford to charge their users with cheap withdrawal fees. If they wanted, they could even make withdrawals free because they have plenty of energy and bandwidth resources each day. They are making money even with $1 per withdrawal.

[MusaMohamed]

Centralized exchanges usually have big amounts of tron and other altcoins staked. They receive energy and bandwidth for that. That's why they can afford to charge their users with cheap withdrawal fees. If they wanted, they could even make withdrawals free because they have plenty of energy and bandwidth resources each day. They are making money even with $1 per withdrawal.

If they want, they can do anything even it is stupid like how Sam and his team allowed free withdrawals with Ethereum and tokens on ERC20 chain years ago when transaction fee on Ethereum blockchain was very expensive. I don't know but during these crazy months on Ethereum blockchain, I guess only FTX exchange had that generous withdrawal policy for their users but stupid for their exchange business.

With casinos, I see there are more casinos have free withdrawal fees for users than centralized exchanges.
[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos.

[Cryptmuster]

As far as I know many gambling site charges 1$ for withdrawal fee on tron network.. while for BNB and other chains is also a  bit less while some of the gambling site makes it constantly to be just 1$. I believe there are chances to reduce when they might have noticed that other gambling site doesn't changes same amount for withdrawal fee. And note very well all gambling sites maintain same protocol,. Meaning if you deposited with Trc20 usdt you will be only allowed to withdraw back with same network as you wouldn't be permitted to withdraw usdt back through BNB chain or ethereum network that is how many of the gambling site do operates.

Perhaps I will not agree with you, starting with the fee in the Tron TRC20 network, the fee for withdrawal can't possibly be $1 because the fee of the network itself is now quite high and will amount to several dollars. And regarding the choice of network for deposits and withdrawals, not everything is so limited here, for many casinos everything works like on an exchange, when you replenish a deposit, you see the balance in USDT without indicating the network, and when withdrawing you can choose any available network, and not necessarily the one in which you made the deposit. At least I haven’t yet come across the fact that I have to withdraw exactly in the network in which I topped up the deposit, unless the casino can limit this choice to the presence of TRC20 and ERC20, this also happens.

[Pmalek]

Perhaps I will not agree with you, starting with the fee in the Tron TRC20 network, the fee for withdrawal can't possibly be $1 because the fee of the network itself is now quite high and will amount to several dollars.

If you use non-custodial Tron wallets like TronLink, you can make one free TRX transaction a day without paying any fees. The network allows that. Each account has enough bandwidth resources to make a free transaction without any staked tokens. If you want to get free token transactions, which include stablecoins like USDT and USDC, then you need to stake and receive energy. The bigger your stake, the more energy you get. Each transaction consumes energy and bandwidth. If you don't have enough of those, you need to compensate with TRX or another token from your address that will be used to pay transaction fees.

[Ruttoshi]

As far as I know many gambling site charges 1$ for withdrawal fee on tron network.. while for BNB and other chains is also a  bit less while some of the gambling site makes it constantly to be just 1$. I believe there are chances to reduce when they might have noticed that other gambling site doesn't changes same amount for withdrawal fee. And note very well all gambling sites maintain same protocol,. Meaning if you deposited with Trc20 usdt you will be only allowed to withdraw back with same network as you wouldn't be permitted to withdraw usdt back through BNB chain or ethereum network that is how many of the gambling site do operates.

So far, since I have been using a crypto casino for gambling, BSC is always the cheapest due to less congestion. It's just like you're using BSC network in an exchange, it use to be cheaper than the rest networks.

I do use stake casino and if I'm withdrawing on BSC and polygon network, it's just $0.1, while Solama is $0.5, Etherum $1 just like that if your withdrawal is not in bitcoin. The last time I gamble with bitcoin it was $1 for transaction fee.

[Cryptmuster]

If you use non-custodial Tron wallets like TronLink, you can make one free TRX transaction a day without paying any fees. The network allows that. Each account has enough bandwidth resources to make a free transaction without any staked tokens. If you want to get free token transactions, which include stablecoins like USDT and USDC, then you need to stake and receive energy. The bigger your stake, the more energy you get. Each transaction consumes energy and bandwidth. If you don't have enough of those, you need to compensate with TRX or another token from your address that will be used to pay transaction fees.

It’s about the situation when you want to withdraw money from a casino to your wallet, the casino won’t worry about saving fees for that transaction. They will simply send your funds and pay whatever fees the blockchain requires. But you’re giving an example of when you decide to deposit money. In that case I agree you can take certain steps to reduce the fee. Or you can just use another blockchain like Binance Smart Chain where the fee will be almost zero.

[Mahiyammahi]

BSC has cheap transaction fee as a competitor or replacement for Ethereum blockchain ERC20. TRC20 chain used to have a similar role like BSC but did you not know or did you forget that TRC20 chain in recent months has no longer been a cheapest one in transaction fee.

ERC20, BSC, Solana are good chains for enjoying cheaper transaction fees in latest months while you don't have it with TRC20 chain. Justin Sun and Tron developers will have to work hard for improve this chain transaction fee for users.
https://gasfeesnow.com/

I'd say BSC and Solana, of the networks you mentioned would have low fees, while ERC20 comparable to TRC20 would be significantly higher. However I've encountered situations where a casino only offers ERC20 and TRC20, so the choice is limited to where you have stablecoins. Toshi.bet offers several networks to choose from, which significantly simplifies the fee issue for players with relatively small deposits, where every dollar matters.

Usually we don't hold fiat currency on our wallet, so eventually we do need to deposit on casino from our exchanger. Usually exchanger set a high fee for withdrawal. As for current gas fees on ERC 20 it's several time lower than previous fees.

It's most likely cheaper then any other chain. I it's eventually lower then Tron net fee

[Wiwo]

I've been placing sports bets for more than a week now. There was an issue with bets not all showing up in 'my bets' for some reason, but recently there was a sportsbook update, it got better, and I haven't noticed the problem since. The site seems to be truly no KYC because I made a couple of withdrawals and everything came through within an hour. (The amounts were small, $100-200). Unlike Duel, which left me with a terrible impression, this site seems really decent. The bonuses are okay. Stakes are higher, but here they're not bad either. The only downside is that withdrawals aren't instant, but mine came through relatively quickly, within 2 hours.

You are referring to Toshi Bet or another casino, you mentioned duel, if you mean duelbits then I will tell you that that casino have food reputation here in the forum and a few times that I use them, I never encountered any problems either and sure I believe others don't have any issues with them.

Kyc in most cryptocurrency casinos around here is not mandatory unless the security team suspect unusual activities from the account.

[dzungmobile]

You are referring to Toshi Bet or another casino, you mentioned duel, if you mean duelbits then I will tell you that that casino have food reputation here in the forum and a few times that I use them, I never encountered any problems either and sure I believe others don't have any issues with them.

It's your personal experience that can be different with experience of the others and you can not say it with your belief without anything to support it beyond  your personal experience.

In fact there are accusations against Duelbits but it's normal as all business have issues with customers which have different traits and practice that can be good or bad, obey ToS or break ToS.
Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum.

[alankasman]

It's your personal experience that can be different with experience of the others and you can not say it with your belief without anything to support it beyond  your personal experience.
In fact there are accusations against Duelbits but it's normal as all business have issues with customers which have different traits and practice that can be good or bad, obey ToS or break ToS.
Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum.

Everyone clearly has different approaches and experiences so each person has their own beliefs. However we shouldn't immediately act on other people's words. The reason is that sometimes our beliefs are far better than someone else's beliefs which may make us feel like we're losing our personal support for our own experiences. Obviously each person's experience is different.

Of course what you said is very true because the accusation is something that has become a habit and this often happens among people who have businesses or companies because the effect of jealousy sometimes makes a person's business not have many customers so things like that in practice, there are still differences in whether it is good or bad in complying with the ToS or violating the ToS.