45K in debt due to Gambling on Betpanda

[srddev]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine .
I have created also 3 accounts on Betpanda because I was requesting a self excluding and after some period I was creating a new account and started playing again normally .
Betpanda should normally not allowing me to play again as I am the same user (must had more security features to not allow me as I was self excluded due to gambling addiction )

The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )
 A friend created also a fund raising campaign for me to be able to other some money from donations
The link on spot found is here http://spot.fund/HelpJacobPayGamblingDues

[Ultegra134]

What are you on about? You asked to be self-exluded, Betpanda complied and restricted your account, but you then proceeded to create multiple alt accounts, but instead, you're blaming the casino. It seems that you simply need to blame others for your lack of self-control and not take responsibility for your actions. Just because you self-excluded the first account doesn't mean that any casino, not just Betpanda, has to start an investigation to find your alt accounts because YOU lost control.

Betpanda doesn't owe you anything, and before anyone else mentions it, it has nothing to do with me being in their signature campaign. This user is simply speaking nonsense because he's now desperate for the money he lost.

[nakamura12]

Betpanda doesn't owe you anything since you gambled the money yourself. If you haven't created an alt then you wouldn't have lose another money in gambling if you didn't create one. Other casinos may find it that you have alt account but it doesn't mean they will find out right away if you are the same person or not unless you told them that it's you and it is your alt account. There are other things that they are working on so they would be busy. Anyway, it's entirely your fault to lose money because if it isn't then you would have that amount of money that you mentioned that you have lose over a month.

[srddev]

What are you on about? You asked to be self-exluded, Betpanda complied and restricted your account, but you then proceeded to create multiple alt accounts, but instead, you're blaming the casino. It seems that you simply need to blame others for your lack of self-control and not take responsibility for your actions. Just because you self-excluded the first account doesn't mean that any casino, not just Betpanda, has to start an investigation to find your alt accounts because YOU lost control.

Betpanda doesn't owe you anything, and before anyone else mentions it, it has nothing to do with me being in their signature campaign. This user is simply speaking nonsense because he's now desperate for the money he lost.

Yes , I gambled and I totally lost control . But I am mentioning also they betpanda must had already some
Mechanism to block duplicate accounts , through browser , IPs , unique identifiers. There are multiple
Ways to detect it (if you want of course ) . But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

[swogerino]

You learned the hard way like most of us, you got a bit to far to lose 45.000 dollars on a betting platform and I wonder what can possibly motivate a person to go such far. I am self excluded myself at Stake casino since early January and the reason was simple, freaking huge number of consecutive loses in a row by buying the bonus in every Pragmatic Play game available there. I thought to myself I am not an idiot to continue and do charity for Pragmatic since I was losing from one year in a row, yeah world record of bad luck, no one can beat it no matter how hard they try, though the money in total was like 20.000-25.000 and never in debt, was my money after all. Now the only advice I can give you is to put your head down, calm yourself and start forgetting gambling and think for an way to start a better life.

[Ultegra134]

Yes , I gambled and I totally lost control . But I am mentioning also they betpanda must had already some
Mechanism to block duplicate accounts , through browser , IPs , unique identifiers. There are multiple
Ways to detect it (if you want of course ) . But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

You mentioned that you created new accounts after some time passed after being self-excluded; thus, there's a decent chance your IP has changed. Depending on your country of residence, you may have had a dynamic IP, which changes even if you reset the router. Still, you cannot expect others to look out for you; no kind of casino is going to go through the complete trouble of investigating if you're multi-accounting. You're an adult; act like one. It's your own and sole responsibility.

[OgNasty]

Losing tens of thousands of dollars that doesn’t belong to you is dumb on a level I have difficulty comprehending. It is possible that without a loving and wealthy family OP will be made a Darwin victim. As they say, play dumb games and win dumb prizes. Gambling borrowed money has to be expected to turn out like this.

[uchegod-21]

Another reckless gambler looking for someone to shift the blame to. @OP, the casino owes you nothing; neither money nor an apology. When you said you asked for self-exclusion, I thought you would give yourself a break for some time, but you never did. Instead, you went on to create more accounts.

@OP, you already have a problem, and I’m afraid that if you don’t put yourself under control, you might continue to chase losses in order to pay off the debt you owe. This will make matters worse for you.

This is my advice to you, @OP: give yourself a break, a real break. You can find other ways to sort out your debt outside of gambling. This experience is supposed to be a bitter lesson for you.

[livingfree]

It's your problem, sorry to say.

But with all of the self exclude stories that I've read, most of them are unsuccessful.

The real thing should start with the gamblers that don't want to gamble anymore. Do something that's within your control.

Stop and don't gamble again, look for doing something else so that your attention isn't with betpanda anymore. And repay your debts, think of yourself that you'll be able to move on.

[Findingnemo]

First things first, you lost the money because of your actions not because of you choose Betpanda, the result would have been the same if you chose 3 different casinos.

And you are just agreeing that you violated their terms, you decided to create another account soon while being in self exclusion, you can't really blame the casino because it's you found a way to cheat and create new account which itself enough evidence to freeze the new account with whatever balance left in it but goodness you just lost it by yourself.

Take accountability, they don't need to give you anything at all, if you used someone's money then it's on you to pay back then and if it needed to sell everything you have then you need to instead of asking here which won't change anything.

[Rockstarguy]

The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?

You have made a big mistake by taking loans to gamble. Gambling is very much unpredicted and it is also a risky game. You must be smart while using the casino because it is impossible to win the casino,  if you try yo get all yhe money you want from the casino. You font have limits in gambling you will always a huge amount to gambling.

The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

The casino will always remind gamblers if only they pay attention to play responsibly. Casinos don't refund gamblers back their money , when you lose money in gambling, it is gone and you can't get it back .

[LogitechMouse]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine
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The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

ADDICTION IS A CHOICE. You chose to gamble because you're addicted to it. I don't think that it's Betpanda's fault to let you create multiple accounts because like what others said, there might be some changes to you like the IP address or something.

Sometimes, learning really is very expensive and it sometimes come to a point where you're becoming delusional thinking of something that will not happen at all. Do you think that they will give back the $45,000 that you once lost to you? Can you give us a reason why they should do it? Sorry, but you're dumb enough to gamble other people's money. I mean it would be understandable if it's only $100 or $200, but $45,000? That's some level of addiction out there. Sorry OP, but I don't feel any sorry for you, and Betpanda on the other hand isn't responsible for your losses (I'm not defending them because I'm promoting them, but it's the reality ).

But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

Is there any gambling websites out there that puts a betting limit on their users? Kindly share those websites here if there is because I haven't seen one.

[freedomgo]

The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

If a law like that exists, where a casino is forced to return money to gamblers who are addicted and have self-excluded.. I think it could easily be abused by players.

Think about it: what if you were the one who won? Would you be willing to return the money to Betpanda, knowing that you weren’t supposed to be gambling in the first place? I doubt anyone would. That’s why this kind of rule, while it sounds protective on the surface, can be taken advantage of.

[Justbillywitt]

Have you ever seen a business centre telling their clients not to come and patronise them again? Betpanda will not tell you not to come play again, because the business was open for gamblers like you and I, and they are their to satisfy our gambling needs. They will never give you back that money, because if you had won, they would have paid you, and you would have made trouble if they refuse to pay you. You have lost those bets and bets lost are non refundable. You have to find alternative way to raise money to pay back those that you are owing. Hoping on Betpanda to give you anything will not yield anything. Besides you made a big mistake by gambling with people's funds.

[Natalim]

Many gamblers throw bad words or anything that could ruin the reputation of the sites due to their personal mistake. A common practice of a loser and irresponsible gambler. I won't say you deserved it, OP, but I just tried to remind you that some casino sites are strict with their rules. That is why you don't try to make mistakes, or else you're going to suffer the consequences. The best thing you can do, OP, is to face the problem and pay your debts rather than blaming others. You decided to gamble, then bear the consequences of your actions.

[sheenshane]

Yes , I gambled and I totally lost control . But I am mentioning also they betpanda must had already some
Mechanism to block duplicate accounts , through browser , IPs , unique identifiers. There are multiple
Ways to detect it (if you want of course ) . But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

It's purely business, nothing more.
Some gambling casinos won't inquire about this when you deposit, but if you wish to withdraw your money, especially if it's a large amount, that's when they'll scrutinize your account.

It's unfortunate, but it's the reality.
Now you're blaming them because you didn't self-exclude from gambling?
That's a wrong practice you chose to be addicted, not them.
Accept your costly mistake and move on, and return to gambling when you know how to manage it.

[Sanitough]

This isn’t fair to the casino. You tried to bypass the system just to get around your self-exclusion, and now that the casino didn’t stop your account and you ended up losing, it suddenly becomes their fault? Now you're saying you should be refunded? Come on.

This kind of issue shouldn’t be brought here, you won’t get much sympathy. If you really believe you have a case, get a lawyer. But be ready to spend, and just know there’s no guarantee you’ll win.

[Reatim]

What are you on about? You asked to be self-exluded, Betpanda complied and restricted your account, but you then proceeded to create multiple alt accounts, but instead, you're blaming the casino. It seems that you simply need to blame others for your lack of self-control and not take responsibility for your actions. Just because you self-excluded the first account doesn't mean that any casino, not just Betpanda, has to start an investigation to find your alt accounts because YOU lost control.

Betpanda doesn't owe you anything, and before anyone else mentions it, it has nothing to do with me being in their signature campaign. This user is simply speaking nonsense because he's now desperate for the money he lost.

Yes , I gambled and I totally lost control . But I am mentioning also they betpanda must had already some
Mechanism to block duplicate accounts , through browser , IPs , unique identifiers. There are multiple
Ways to detect it (if you want of course ) . But also there are no gambling limits on Betpanda.(you cannot set your limits to stay safe )

while this should be looked into, you can’t really ask betpanda for your money back and because you’re the one who deliberately tried to gamble on their platform despite being self excluded

and you didn’t just use the same account but made different ones so you took massive steps into making sure you can play how do they know if you’re really addicted or just trying to scam them for money?

[Stable090]

Hi to everyone ,
Since 1 year before I was gambling but not a lot money .
The last months I was totally addicted to gambling and lost all of my money on Betpanda and also money that wasn’t mine .
I have created also 3 accounts on Betpanda because I was requesting a self excluding and after some period I was creating a new account and started playing again normally .
Betpanda should normally not allowing me to play again as I am the same user (must had more security features to not allow me as I was self excluded due to gambling addiction )

The last month I have lost 45K from money that doesn’t belong to me and I must repay them.
I don’t really know what to do ?
The ideal will from Betpanda to give me all my money on the last account back as they don’t even have limits and other such stuff for addicted users. (But I am sure that this will not gonna happen as this is exactly that they want , addicted users playing more and more and keep loosing )

So who are you blaming right now? Are you blaming yourself for being addicted to gambling, or you blaming betpanda? I don’t see any reason why you have to blame Betpanda, you requested for self exclusion, and they excluded your account, why do you have to create another account again? Why going back to them to create account when you know you don’t want to gamble again?

Am sorry for your loss, but it’s just high time you start blaming yourself for the mistake which you made, and you should stop trying to shift your blame on others. Since you have lost a huge amount of money, what you should do now is just to look for a way to pay back the money which you used in gambling, and I will recommend you stop gambling for now, if you can continue gambling, then you are just going to get things worst for yourself.

You gambled and you lost, their is nothing you going to be getting back from Betpanda, you requested for self exclusion, and they excluded your account, but just because you are addicted to gambling, and you really want to keep on gambling, and you went to create another account, who asked you to create another account, or if you have won, will you return the money to Betpanda?

[Majestic-milf]

 From the story you dropped, op, I don't really see how Betpanda should be blamed for your actions. According to you, you asked for self exclusion and then went on to create more accounts to continue playing. Isn't that something that should be bad for you? Now you are asking that they give you the funds you have. Is it on the account you asked for a self exclusion or the other ones you created.

Normally, the aim of every business is to grow and make profits and in the case of Betpanda, it's not like they want gamblers to deliberately fail so that they would make more profits, but rather, it's mostly out of luck or chance. No one forced you to continue playing even when you were running into problem so it's not fair to say that they want to hold your funds so you can continue using it so stake.