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[Vara1959]

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Nope, I think it's wager based and not plainly 1 bet equals 1 ticket. Playing in the casino also gives tickets as you can see in your own picture. How much you have to wager though to get 1 tickets remains a mystery unless somebody actually tries to track his wager and also checks the progress within the promo all the time.

I found more info

I don't remember having that information before, I think they added it today
So this is what's needed to win the tickets

Better late than never. Yet a new problem is there. I have seen countless people stating they have wagered thousands on sports and don't have 1 single ticket. Also people having wagered 10s of thousands of $ in the casino (with proof) and yet they have like 10 tickets.
This promo seems to go very wrong as well so it seem. I wonder why it's so hard for this site to gat anything right these days.

They have a trackrecord of promo's going very wrong, no surprise there. They won't admit it though, good luck!

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Winna once again made a shady move to make sure to pay their players as less rewards as possible.

Maybe some of you are aware that they have telegram drops like twice a day. For these drops you need wagere of course, the last 7 days of wager were used for this.
Now since yesterday they changed it that not the last 7 days (7x24 hours) are used but the last 6 days plus the wager until 0:00 GMT.
So you basically lose wager and they don't use your last 7 days of activity. This strips you of several hours of wager in your last day of the 7 day calculation. Being confronted they even have the audacity of claiming it's always been like this, despite this being a blatant lie!

Shady (lying) people running a shady site doing shady things just to make sure to maximize profits.

[Vara1959]

It's always been shady. The rain wagering requirement works the same way: it's advertised as 48 hours, but in reality it gets cut off at midnight, so it's not actually 48 hours at all, somtimes only 24hand 1 min.

Now they've disabled self-claimable lossbacks as well. Instead, you have to chase down your host and ask for one manually. The problem is that hosts don't reply for weeks.

Support keeps assuring me they're "doing their best" to accommodate everyone as quickly as possible, yet somehow they decided the best course of action was to create even more work for hosts by making lossbacks manual. <3 Logic

Then again, we've already learned that counting and reading seem to be ongoing challenges over at Winna. Given that, I guess it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that basic logic is proving to be difficult too.


Everyone should really reconsider before playing at Winna, theres less shady cryptocasino's around than Winna.

There's multiple people with all kind of issues and Winna decided its easier to ignore complaints than fixing them (Huge red flag). Best proof is this topic and lack of response by the representatives of Winna

[AHOYBRAUSE]

It's always been shady. The rain wagering requirement works the same way: it's advertised as 48 hours, but in reality it gets cut off at midnight, so it's not actually 48 hours at all, somtimes only 24hand 1 min.

Now they've disabled self-claimable lossbacks as well. Instead, you have to chase down your host and ask for one manually. The problem is that hosts don't reply for weeks.

Support keeps assuring me they're "doing their best" to accommodate everyone as quickly as possible, yet somehow they decided the best course of action was to create even more work for hosts by making lossbacks manual. <3 Logic

Then again, we've already learned that counting and reading seem to be ongoing challenges over at Winna. Given that, I guess it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that basic logic is proving to be difficult too.


Everyone should really reconsider before playing at Winna, theres less shady cryptocasino's around than Winna.

There's multiple people with all kind of issues and Winna decided its easier to ignore complaints than fixing them (Huge red flag). Best proof is this topic and lack of response by the representatives of Winna

Agreed. I have seen as well that the lossback option disappeared from the VIP section, kinda ridiculous. Now you can't even know what your lossback is (and if you have any) and must believe whatever number a host gives you. Anyway, I have deleted my host telegram group already anyway since these people are a waste of time. They don't give you anything extra anyway and since I don't expect to claim any lossback, since I won't deposit anyway, I don't need them.
About the rain, yeah I mentioned this some weeks ago already, they also raised and worsened the requirements over the last weeks. Also, there are often the same guys "winning" the rain all the time, like several times a day while while you can enter 150 times over 3 days and not win 1 single time.   Rigged to perfection.

Wouldn't be surprised if this site is gone within a year, who knows.

[karrrmaaa]

Winna is completely scamming its own affiliates. Every other casino treats affiliate commission as a deposit, but at Winna, if you lose that commission, it doesn't count toward PNL, doesn't qualify for bonuses, and doesn't generate any lossback. They're effectively taking value away from their own partners while pretending everything is normal. Total exploitation and deception of the very affiliates who bring them players. Shameful.

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[Mahdirakib]

Agreed. I have seen as well that the lossback option disappeared from the VIP section, kinda ridiculous. Now you can't even know what your lossback is (and if you have any) and must believe whatever number a host gives you. ~snip~

Was there still any kind of bug in their lossback system after the last update? Maybe the Winna team has removed the automatic lossback system from the website as they were unable to remove the bug completely which was helping users to get benefits. Previously, you had said that users were getting lossback before the settlement of sports bets. The lossback from the VIP host will never be accurate.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Agreed. I have seen as well that the lossback option disappeared from the VIP section, kinda ridiculous. Now you can't even know what your lossback is (and if you have any) and must believe whatever number a host gives you. ~snip~

Was there still any kind of bug in their lossback system after the last update? Maybe the Winna team has removed the automatic lossback system from the website as they were unable to remove the bug completely which was helping users to get benefits. Previously, you had said that users were getting lossback before the settlement of sports bets. The lossback from the VIP host will never be accurate.

Nope, the bug was fixed like 2 weeks ago (spoke about that here since they never even acknowledged it, haha). So there should be no connection between those 2 things. Anyway, it is what it is. They changed a lot recently and this is just another customer unfriendly change that makes the whole experience worse, just like all the other changes they applied in the past let's say 4 months.
Seems like money is short for them so they have to save it wherever possible. 

[Shishir99]

Winna is completely scamming its own affiliates. Every other casino treats affiliate commission as a deposit, but at Winna, if you lose that commission, it doesn't count toward PNL, doesn't qualify for bonuses, and doesn't generate any lossback. They're effectively taking value away from their own partners while pretending everything is normal. Total exploitation and deception of the very affiliates who bring them players. Shameful.

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It may varies from platform to platform and it depends on their policy. If the casino do not consider the loss as your loss and they mention it, then you need to think it from their point of view. From the casino point of view, the affiliate commissions are not their profit. They considered the commission as their expense, which you loss later, and they count it as recovery. From the casino point of view, it is not profit actually, which is why they are not counting in your PNL, and not eligible for the bonus. I am sure the casino itself will explain this way. Or they probably has better reasons. I am just telling what came to my mind.

[Zwei]

Winna is completely scamming its own affiliates. Every other casino treats affiliate commission as a deposit, but at Winna, if you lose that commission, it doesn't count toward PNL, doesn't qualify for bonuses, and doesn't generate any lossback. They're effectively taking value away from their own partners while pretending everything is normal. Total exploitation and deception of the very affiliates who bring them players. Shameful.

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if you ask me, affiliates promoting winna are kinda getting what they deserve. i said this before somewhere, but if someone promotes a shitty casino, they shouldn't be surprised for getting the shitty casino treatment.

It may varies from platform to platform and it depends on their policy. If the casino do not consider the loss as your loss and they mention it, then you need to think it from their point of view. From the casino point of view, the affiliate commissions are not their profit. They considered the commission as their expense, which you loss later, and they count it as recovery. From the casino point of view, it is not profit actually, which is why they are not counting in your PNL, and not eligible for the bonus. I am sure the casino itself will explain this way. Or they probably has better reasons. I am just telling what came to my mind.

but if he would have withdrawn the affiliate commissions, and redeposited them instantly, they would magically start counting toward PnL. nothing would have changed, it's the same money.
this is a text book dark pattern they have specifically to lower their overhead, and i would imagine they save a nice amount of money doing it that way.

[acarroll30]

I understand that in order to be eligible to participate in Winna's rain, one must be a Silver VIP or higher. What is not clear (amongst many other things Winna casino fails to disclose) is the required wager amount needed in the past 48 hours, in order to join. There is nothing stated in the T&C, and live support can't give me an answer (as if its one big secret). It seems I'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand it too. If any one could clarify the wager requirement and or anything  else im not aware of, would be much appreciated. It sounds good from a marketing standpoint point, until it's not. Ya dig

[logfiles]

I understand that in order to be eligible to participate in Winna's rain, one must be a Silver VIP or higher. What is not clear (amongst many other things Winna casino fails to disclose) is the required wager amount needed in the past 48 hours, in order to join. There is nothing stated in the T&C, and live support can't give me an answer (as if its one big secret). It seems I'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand it too. If any one could clarify the wager requirement and or anything  else im not aware of, would be much appreciated. It sounds good from a marketing standpoint point, until it's not. Ya dig

If anything does not seem to make sense or if the support can't help answer some of the easy queries. Now imagine if you got real problems with the casino? What you are experience is perhaps a warning not to use the service for now. Look for better alternatives. I am certain they are many.
Let's give them a chance to make things better for the customers.

[ryzaadit]

I understand that in order to be eligible to participate in Winna's rain, one must be a Silver VIP or higher. What is not clear (amongst many other things Winna casino fails to disclose) is the required wager amount needed in the past 48 hours, in order to join. There is nothing stated in the T&C, and live support can't give me an answer (as if its one big secret). It seems I'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand it too. If any one could clarify the wager requirement and or anything  else im not aware of, would be much appreciated. It sounds good from a marketing standpoint point, until it's not. Ya dig

If you already ask ticket and don't have answer.

Not even us having an answer too, the blogs info say only minimum rank. There is no waggering amount to be qualified, we don't even know. You need ask with them, if the support don't know then just can guess the number.

Guessing by other casino rules perhaps, tried minimum 3,000$ wavggering.

[Bitinity]

I understand that in order to be eligible to participate in Winna's rain, one must be a Silver VIP or higher. What is not clear (amongst many other things Winna casino fails to disclose) is the required wager amount needed in the past 48 hours, in order to join. There is nothing stated in the T&C, and live support can't give me an answer (as if its one big secret). It seems I'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand it too. If any one could clarify the wager requirement and or anything  else im not aware of, would be much appreciated. It sounds good from a marketing standpoint point, until it's not. Ya dig

Based on what informed by AHOY in this post, you need to wager around $2000 in the past 48H in order to be eligible for the rain. In other post, he also said that there is also min deposit requirement ($50) in the past 48H. I have no idea where did he find the information but maybe he asked support about it. Looking at what AHOY have shared in this thread, better if you ask support to know the latest information as the requirement might be increased.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I understand that in order to be eligible to participate in Winna's rain, one must be a Silver VIP or higher. What is not clear (amongst many other things Winna casino fails to disclose) is the required wager amount needed in the past 48 hours, in order to join. There is nothing stated in the T&C, and live support can't give me an answer (as if its one big secret). It seems I'm not the only one who doesn't quite understand it too. If any one could clarify the wager requirement and or anything  else im not aware of, would be much appreciated. It sounds good from a marketing standpoint point, until it's not. Ya dig

Based on what informed by AHOY in this post, you need to wager around $2000 in the past 48H in order to be eligible for the rain. In other post, he also said that there is also min deposit requirement ($50) in the past 48H. I have no idea where did he find the information but maybe he asked support about it. Looking at what AHOY have shared in this thread, better if you ask support to know the latest information as the requirement might be increased.

AHOY is speaking of his own personal experience  , but of course you can double check everything. You will find the same information though, even in winna chat.
About the wager requirement its 2250 now. 2 months ago it was still 1000$ by the way, also the deposit was valid for 72 hours, now it's only 48 hours.
Asking the support won't bring anything since they say "we can't provide this information", I have asked them myself quite some time ago cause the site mentions those requirement amounts anywhere.

Just checked and found my old chat with them from 4 months ago:



--> asking support brings you nothing, every info can only be obtained by actual players. That's why I am sharing these things.

[Bitinity]

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I am wondering why they do not want to disclose the information about such a simple thing, is it their strategy to make players deposit and wager as much as possible so players will be able to join the race? In other words, they do want to minimize the number of players who are planning to deposit and wager for the rain only?

[ryzaadit]

I am wondering why they do not want to disclose the information about such a simple thing, is it their strategy to make players deposit and wager as much as possible so players will be able to join the race? In other words, they do want to minimize the number of players who are planning to deposit and wager for the rain only?

IMO, trying to milking user.

They want the player keep playing and not stop just for meet the waggering amount. Thats why they keep it secret, always hated scheme like those. Off course my opinion cant be prooven but thats how i see it.

To keep player keep waggering and deposit.

[cronosone]

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well, well, well...

btw my scam accusation thread was deleted for some reason by forum admin.

[logfiles]

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We’ve removed a number of fake reviews for this company.

Winna should work very hard towards addressing the concerns and complaints that come up instead of just ignoring them. Using shortcuts such as trying to create fake positive reviews simply won't help. I don't really trust Trustpilot that much because they are easy to manipulate but winna needs to at least respond to complaints that come up for the good of their reputation

well, well, well...

btw my scam accusation thread was deleted for some reason by forum admin.

Scam is not moderated in the forum so it's highly unlikely they deleted your thread and if they did, you were probably breaking the forum rules. Please follow the forum rules to the dot and there will be no problems.

[cronosone]

Scam is not moderated in the forum so it's highly unlikely they deleted your thread and if they did, you were probably breaking the forum rules. Please follow the forum rules to the dot and there will be no problems.

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator." This with whole thread. No rule was broken there, I would love to know why it was deleted.

About first, they don't give a fuck about the forum. Bennet was online 2 days ago last time, ignoring all (including the flag opened by other user, which is crazy no one is supporting btw).

[freedomgo]

Scam is not moderated in the forum so it's highly unlikely they deleted your thread and if they did, you were probably breaking the forum rules. Please follow the forum rules to the dot and there will be no problems.

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator." This with whole thread. No rule was broken there, I would love to know why it was deleted.

Only the moderators can answer that, and this is not the right section to ask about your concern.
When it violates forum rules, that is why it gets deleted, probably spam or duplicates, that is my guess, but like I said, they are the ones who can answer that.

About first, they don't give a fuck about the forum. Bennet was online 2 days ago last time, ignoring all (including the flag opened by other user, which is crazy no one is supporting btw).

if no one is supporting then probably they don't see the proof to be valid enough.