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November 15, 2025, 10:28:29 AM
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Furthermore, the level of luck varies greatly among traders, so some traders simply won't have the same luck on different days. This is something all traders need to understand because trading isn't solely about skill, knowledge, and experience; ultimately, luck also comes down to personal preference. Currently, I'm not trading very regularly because I'm still a little uncertain about market conditions, which sometimes seem stagnant and sometimes experience price declines. So, I prefer to wait for a more opportune moment if I want to focus on trading in the next few days.

I will say one thing, if you have acquired all the knowledge about the market and can observe the token well then you can trade. Because to trade, one has to gain knowledge in all aspects and most skill and strategy will be required. As far as I understand from reading your post, you don't have enough knowledge about trade. Because if you are really trading, you must know that analysis is the most important here. Yes, sometimes it depends on luck, because the market is not always in your favor. That's why you should acquire more knowledge about the trade. Then you can easily understand the situation in the market.

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November 15, 2025, 08:45:25 PM
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If a trader trades without leverage, then in fact, if the price drops, he will turn into an investor who will have to wait a long time until the price returns to the purchase level. However, if a trader uses leverage, he will not be able to stay in the trade for a long time due to the limited margin at which the liquidation of the position is possible.
This has already become a wrong Money Management setup. How is it possible for a trader like you to minimize losses if this is the concept? As a trader, you should have a clear plan, such as putting an SL. So when the price drops, there is no such thing as suddenly becoming an investor.
When you are a trader, you must dare to do a cut loss or set an SL like I said. Because when that is not done, when the price drops you can no longer buy again at the lowest price. So always consider setting an SL when the price does not go according to our expectations.

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November 15, 2025, 08:57:06 PM
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As for me, I prefer long-term investing,, which also requires sufficient capital, knowledge to buy and sell, and a well-structured investment plan..

Both fields require experience, but trading is the more risky of the two.
It is a matter of what you are investing on, many shit coins are in their low prices but bitcoin is different. It is good to avoid trading because it is more than risky. I have lost money there so much in a way I do not want to trade again. Invest in bitcoin, gold and silver is better.
If you have lost money in trading so much, that shouldn't warrant you to condenm trading or leave trading and join another business, leaving trade and join another business because you lose in the trading is not the solution, the solution is to advance yourself and know the things that's contributing for you not to make a profit from your trading and also amend it, so I believe that we are supposed to learn trading and understand it very before we start trading, so we need to learning in trading as a challenge, I believe that will advance us from benefiting from trading

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November 15, 2025, 11:19:06 PM
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Furthermore, the level of luck varies greatly among traders, so some traders simply won't have the same luck on different days. This is something all traders need to understand because trading isn't solely about skill, knowledge, and experience; ultimately, luck also comes down to personal preference. Currently, I'm not trading very regularly because I'm still a little uncertain about market conditions, which sometimes seem stagnant and sometimes experience price declines. So, I prefer to wait for a more opportune moment if I want to focus on trading in the next few days.

I will say one thing, if you have acquired all the knowledge about the market and can observe the token well then you can trade. Because to trade, one has to gain knowledge in all aspects and most skill and strategy will be required. As far as I understand from reading your post, you don't have enough knowledge about trade. Because if you are really trading, you must know that analysis is the most important here. Yes, sometimes it depends on luck, because the market is not always in your favor. That's why you should acquire more knowledge about the trade. Then you can easily understand the situation in the market.
Trading the market need knowledge for you to know what to do and what not do. If you know and have the knowledge to trade, you will also need experience for you to survive the market or to stay longer while making profits in the market.
Trading can make you lose and make profit and you can be making profits and everything about the market changes and you can start losing what you have earned. If you continue to trade without adding knowledge to your trading journey, surviving the market can be very hard to continue.
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November 15, 2025, 11:34:46 PM
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In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.


People who think of making money immediately are mainly involved in trading, trading is very important and there is a possibility of losing money in a moment. But there is a big difference between trading and long-term investment, holding for a long period reduces the risk a lot and you don't have to worry about buying at any time in the market. But if you participate in trading, even a small mistake in the market will result in money loss, so I want to say that if someone wants to earn more money, then it is best to be associated with long-term investment but it must be a trusted coin.

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November 15, 2025, 11:50:05 PM
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Trading and investing are two different things and if you have been involved in either one of them you'd understand the difference...a lot of people say Trading is dangerous and there is always a possibility of losing but others might not agree because to them trading is more profitable to them..its all about doing what works for you and making sure that you are investing within your capacity

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November 16, 2025, 02:04:53 AM
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Trading and investing are two different things and if you have been involved in either one of them you'd understand the difference...a lot of people say Trading is dangerous and there is always a possibility of losing but others might not agree because to them trading is more profitable to them..its all about doing what works for you and making sure that you are investing within your capacity
Those who say trading is profitable have also experienced losses at times, though it may not have affected them much because they were already better prepared for it and continue to enjoy doing it again and again. Meanwhile, those who are afraid of losing even once or twice while trading can try other things like investing, although the risk of loss remains, but this only occurs when there is a greater price correction in the asset they've invested in. So choosing the right one is very worthwhile, as it's always based on our individual abilities.

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November 16, 2025, 02:48:17 AM
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Trading and investing are two different things and if you have been involved in either one of them you'd understand the difference...a lot of people say Trading is dangerous and there is always a possibility of losing but others might not agree because to them trading is more profitable to them..its all about doing what works for you and making sure that you are investing within your capacity
Trading is more risky than investing in terms of losing money. There are many differences between the two in terms of strategy but trading in the potential approach can be positive if you can gain experience on this platform. Some coins are more suitable for long term investment like Bitcoin and most altcoins are suitable for short term trading. Experience makes you positive in making the right decisions and teaches you the difference between investing/trading.
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November 16, 2025, 03:59:04 AM
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In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

On a general terms, you are right, trading is different from investing but I am wondering who doesn't know this actually? Even the term "trading" when search has a completely different definition and or explanation from the term "investing", I honestly can not imagine someone, even a newbie make the mistake of assuming trading and investing are the same thing, this terms are generally terms and does not relate to crypto currencies alone, for even before cryptocurrencies came on board, the two terms, "trading" and "investing" have existed..

But anyways, its not totally bad to discuss about things like this and their differences, maybe we have some nursery students here whom such knowledge will be of great benefit, one never can tell 😁
And maybe it might interest us to as well know that when it comes to both trading and investing, both has different types and terms too.. Like investing in the short, mid or long term and so...

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... It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

Their goal in trading is to seek small profits, but they do not always make a profit in the trades they make.

They continue to try to accumulate profits little by little, but in practice they are also overwhelmed by covering the aspects that cause them to suffer losses due to various reasons.
If someone says that trading is an activity that can make traders reap huge profits, it can be said that this is only a small part of the story, and they have also experienced significant losses. They just don't talk about it.

Therefore, investing is a way to secure value and have more positive time rather than having to control the market at all times.
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Trading the market need knowledge for you to know what to do and what not do. If you know and have the knowledge to trade, you will also need experience for you to survive the market or to stay longer while making profits in the market.
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Trading the market need knowledge for you to know what to do and what not do. If you know and have the knowledge to trade, you will also need experience for you to survive the market or to stay longer while making profits in the market.
Trading can make you lose and make profit and you can be making profits and everything about the market changes and you can start losing what you have earned. If you continue to trade without adding knowledge to your trading journey, surviving the market can be very hard to continue.

In trading you need more than knowledge to succeed in the market, you can have all the knowledge but but without following the right principles and information you will still find it hard to trade at profit that is why traders are required to smart and observant so that the right information they need to make profit cdn get to them. It is not advisable for anyone to trade without having knowledge the person will end up gambling and losing the amount in trading but having good knowledge will reduce the level of risk because you know when it is not ok to trade.
That's true. In trading, we must have all the necessary knowledge, not just market knowledge, but also financial management, risk management, and many other things. We also need to follow the news, as it can impact market movements.

Experience is gained over time, so it's impossible to gain it right away unless we learn from the experiences of others. We can exchange stories with people who have traded before us; they'll usually share their trading struggles, which we can use as lessons.
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November 16, 2025, 05:06:48 PM
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Trading and investing are two different things and if you have been involved in either one of them you'd understand the difference...a lot of people say Trading is dangerous and there is always a possibility of losing but others might not agree because to them trading is more profitable to them..its all about doing what works for you and making sure that you are investing within your capacity
Investing can be seen as another form of trading where you don't have to use an indicator to be analyzing the market everytime.
Traders are the ones that are always ready to study the market in a frequent attempt so that they can know what is happening in the market and trade along with the signals they are getting. Investors have no business with studying and watching price speculation when they can buy and hold for as long as possible without checking the market for a potential break in the price. It is advisable to be holder when you are new to the market.
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Trading requires studying market movements, analytical skills and monitoring market conditions, and  technical analyses. And a lot of experience is required to succeed in trading. Both a trader and an investor may have the possibility of making negative decisions or decisions during panic, fear or market decline. As a result, they decide to sell. However, the possibility of financial risk is less in long-term investment than trading. There is no guarantee that they will be able to make a profit in trading because if the market falls, the amount of loss may be greater than the profit. However, if the market goes down in the case of a long-term investor, they can take it as normal because it does not cause him a big financial loss and he can wait according to his goals.

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Trading takes time and learning, while you are into trading i mean trying to learn it, you should consider investing for long term, this will reassure you that you spent your time very well, it took me 2 years to get some basic trading knowledge especially reading the chart.

Start investing and keep learning trading, it is a win win situation.
As long as you are not trading and investing all at once then it is okay, while in the process of learning how to trade which is definitely going to take up a good number of months to practice you can invest in bitcoin during these periods but it's dangerous for anyone to combine trading and holding because there's no way you can apply risk management to this, you can lose all your long term profits in a single trade.

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Investment is a thing most likely for the future., while tradings is a thing of now. while you are trading and getting quick money you and also pinch out a little and invest ahead. Investment is securing your future today and now. You might not have a allit of money to spare out but the little you i investment will multiply greatly in ways that that you cannot explain

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Trading takes time and learning, while you are into trading i mean trying to learn it, you should consider investing for long term, this will reassure you that you spent your time very well, it took me 2 years to get some basic trading knowledge especially reading the chart.

Start investing and keep learning trading, it is a win win situation.
As long as you are not trading and investing all at once then it is okay, while in the process of learning how to trade which is definitely going to take up a good number of months to practice you can invest in bitcoin during these periods but it's dangerous for anyone to combine trading and holding because there's no way you can apply risk management to this, you can lose all your long term profits in a single trade.
It should take a few years to learn trading instead of a few months. If you can stay in Bitcoin investment for a minimum of four years, then during this time you will have enough time to analysis the trading and along with that you will get a holding of one Bitcoin and start trading with a portion of the profits. In my opinion, trading is much riskier and requires a lot of cash funds compared to long term investments. Long term Bitcoin investment for example can be done through discretionary income but trading may require a lump sum. If you start with a small amount of funds through market analysis and increase the amount of capital as you gain experience then you will have a chance of succeeding in trading.











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Investment is a thing most likely for the future., while tradings is a thing of now. while you are trading and getting quick money you and also pinch out a little and invest ahead. Investment is securing your future today and now. You might not have a allit of money to spare out but the little you i investment will multiply greatly in ways that that you cannot explain

Do not perceive investments as guaranteed income, because investments can also be unprofitable. It is also very important to be able to sell the asset on time, because the assets you invest in rise and fall in price, and to avoid being left with nothing you need to exit the trade at the right moment. Trading is a job, and a very difficult one, where you can end up without earnings and even take losses, so trading can be not only fast earnings but also fast losses.

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In the case of long-term investment, it is necessary to continue for at least four to eight years and to maintain the investment despite market fluctuations. And a good strategy for long-term investment is DCA, in which small amounts are invested at regular intervals. And in this method, there is less stress because you can invest money at your own convenience. In addition, the possibility of financial risk is less than in trading. Because in trading, you have to pour a large amount of money at once, so if the market goes down, a large amount of money can be lost. And there is stress because you have to monitor the market regularly. It is also difficult to predict when the market will go down or up. And those who want to make more money in a short time mainly enter trading.

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Do not perceive investments as guaranteed income, because investments can also be unprofitable. It is also very important to be able to sell the asset on time, because the assets you invest in rise and fall in price, and to avoid being left with nothing you need to exit the trade at the right moment. Trading is a job, and a very difficult one, where you can end up without earnings and even take losses, so trading can be not only fast earnings but also fast losses.
For sure it's not guaranteed, but it's usually less risky compared to trading. This is why we should diversify and choose carefully what assets we are going to invest in, to minimize the risk of losing our money. Since investments are usually long-term and trading is for quick profits, you can basically do both if you really want to. Just keep in mind that there's more skills involved in trading like pattern recognition, technical analysis, etc., which are crucial when dealing with short-term trades. It requires a lot more effort as compared to when investing, where you basically just buy and hold the assets.

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